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Agnes Gentillon

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Jul 15, 1992, 1:48:56 PM7/15/92
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I have recently purchased a stair machine (not a stairmaster) and would
like to see how long it takes me to progress to the point where I could
climb to the top of the Empire State Building. The problem is, I don't
know how many steps there are in the Empire State Building. Can anyone
out there tell me?

Thanks for any help anyone can give me.

ag...@pmafire.inel.gov

Tamara Shaffer

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Jul 15, 1992, 5:19:00 PM7/15/92
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>in article: <1992Jul15.1...@pmafire.inel.gov> Agnes
There are 1,272 feet in the Empire State Building. I suppose if you
count 10 feet as 1 floor, you'd have 127.2 floors to go.

While we're at it, here are some more:
World Trade Center - 1,377 ft.
Pike's Peak - 14,110 ft.
Mt. Everest - 29,098 ft.

Happy stepping.

TAMARA

Don Roberts

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Jul 15, 1992, 5:49:44 PM7/15/92
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SAS...@mvs.sas.com (Tamara Shaffer) writes:
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>There are 1,272 feet in the Empire State Building. I suppose if you
>count 10 feet as 1 floor, you'd have 127.2 floors to go.
>
>While we're at it, here are some more:
> World Trade Center - 1,377 ft.
> Pike's Peak - 14,110 ft.
> Mt. Everest - 29,098 ft.

My carpenter brother tells me that an ideal rise for steps is 7.5" (varies
in reality between 7 and 8). So, assuming a 7.5 inch rise,

Empire State Building : 2,035 steps
World Trade Center : 2,203
Pike's Peak : 22,576
Mt. Everest : 46,557

As Tamara said, Have Fun!
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Paul L. Williams

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Jul 16, 1992, 4:38:04 AM7/16/92
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In article <1992Jul15.1...@pmafire.inel.gov> ag...@pmafire.inel.gov (Agnes Gentillon) writes:
>I have recently purchased a stair machine (not a stairmaster) and would
>like to see how long it takes me to progress to the point where I could
>climb to the top of the Empire State Building. The problem is, I don't
>know how many steps there are in the Empire State Building. Can anyone
>out there tell me?

My experience is that real stair climbing is considerably different than
a stairmaster workout. For example, I had been working out on a stairmaster
5 days a week for over a year. The duration of the workout was 45 minutes
and, using a heart rate monitor, I adjusted the stairmaster settings for
a maximum workout, yet always staying within the published safe heart rate
limits.

Subsequently, I went on a business trip to Detroit and stayed at the Westin
hotel. As they did not have a stairmaster in their gym, I took to the stairs;
77 flights of them. It took only about 25 minutes to climb all 77 flights,
so I went down and did it a second time. It was a great workout and I felt
fine... that is until the next day. The next morning my legs (calves in
particular) were killing me. And I don't mean just a little bit sore!!!
It took me about 30 minutes of massaging and very careful stretching before
I could even walk.

I can only conclude that the stairmaster and real stair climbing must
work different muscles. So, if the goal is to climb (real) stairs, my
experience would seem to indicate that stairmaster training alone isn't
enough.

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Guy Middleton

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Jul 16, 1992, 11:08:02 AM7/16/92
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In article <130...@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> rob...@phoenix.ocf.llnl.gov (Don Roberts) writes:
> My carpenter brother tells me that an ideal rise for steps is 7.5" (varies
> in reality between 7 and 8). So, assuming a 7.5 inch rise,
>
> Empire State Building : 2,035 steps
> World Trade Center : 2,203
> Pike's Peak : 22,576
> Mt. Everest : 46,557

And, for the CN Tower in Toronto

elevation steps
(meters)

Top 553 2570
Observation level 342 1760

The next stair-climbing record attempt is in September, and there is a charity
climb in October.

Matt Mahoney

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Jul 20, 1992, 2:24:00 PM7/20/92
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pa...@netcom.com (Paul L. Williams) writes:
>My experience is that real stair climbing is considerably different than
>a stairmaster workout.
> [...]
> It took only about 25 minutes to climb all 77 flights,
>so I went down and did it a second time. It was a great workout and I felt
>fine... that is until the next day. The next morning my legs (calves in
>particular) were killing me. And I don't mean just a little bit sore!!!

I had a similar experience after a 20 x 11 floor workout. My calves hurt
for days. I think the difference is that the muscles (especially calves)
contract eccentrically when walking down stairs. When I raced up the
30-story Sun Bank building in Orlando FL (in 3:50) and took the elevator
down, I did not have any problem with sore muscles (just sore lungs).

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Howard Weingram

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Jul 31, 1992, 7:31:47 PM7/31/92
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In article <rl-mtf...@netcom.com> pa...@netcom.com (Paul L. Williams) writes:
>My experience is that real stair climbing is considerably different than
>a stairmaster workout. For example, I had been working out on a stairmaster
>fine... that is until the next day. The next morning my legs (calves in
>particular) were killing me. And I don't mean just a little bit sore!!!
>It took me about 30 minutes of massaging and very careful stretching before
>I could even walk.
>
>I can only conclude that the stairmaster and real stair climbing must
>work different muscles. So, if the goal is to climb (real) stairs, my
>experience would seem to indicate that stairmaster training alone isn't
>enough.
>

probably depends on the technique you use on the stairmaster as well.
a lot of people lean on the armrests or the display, which is wrong.
it takes most of the weight off the legs, which defeats the whole
point of stairmaster training. (if you don't make that mistake, i
apologize). also, not all stairmasters are the same. the ones with
"steps" that act as levers, as opposed to those that are always
flat, WILL work different muscles than running up real stairs.
and finally, real stairclimbing is higher impact than using a
stairmaster.

both real stairs and stairmasters are still great workouts. a good
way to do real stairs is to run to your local college football stadium,
run up each section in turn (walk down, but not too slowly) and then
run back. the run gets you warmed up, which is absolutely critical
when doing real stairs. as i said, they tend to be higher impact than
the stairmaster, and of course there's no easier "warmup" setting on
a football stadium.
this workout is an interval workout, by the way. For continuous
work the empire state building sounds great ;-)

hal

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Alison Chaiken

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Aug 5, 1992, 12:17:04 AM8/5/92
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hweingra@.com (Howard Weingram) writes:
>For continuous work the empire state building sounds great ;-)

I remember reading that Rocky Marciano once DUCKWALKED up the stairs
of the Empire State Building as a pre-match publicity stunt. He must
have been one tough guy!


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Seth Breidbart

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Aug 9, 1992, 9:19:16 PM8/9/92
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In article <1992Jul31.2...@oracle.us.oracle.com>
hwei...@oracle.UUCP (Howard Weingram) writes:

>this workout is an interval workout, by the way. For continuous
>work the empire state building sounds great ;-)

Actually, it isn't. The air in the stairways is very stale and dusty,
and otherwise unhealthy. Besides, except for a race once a year, they
don't allow it ;-)

Seth se...@fid.morgan.com

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