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Susan Schultheis

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Jul 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/17/95
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My husband and I are considering buying a Healthrider but recently saw a
Powerrider advertised for abt 1/3 the price. Does anyone have any
experience with the Powerrider? We're interested in a quality piece of
equipment (not just the cheapest) but don't want to spend more than
necessary just for a name.

You can e-mail me at sus...@mitre.org or post here. Thanks.

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Will Ware

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Jul 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/23/95
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I also saw the Powerrider ad, and would be curious to hear any
comments on it. Does anybody know what one gives up (if anything)
in going with a cheaper machine?
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Greg Gaba

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Jul 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/26/95
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I sell the AeroMotion made by Keys Fitness. This machine came out after
the Health Rider and the CardioGlide. Therefore, it has fixed all of
the problems that these other machines have faced. I buy in very big
quantities so I am able to sell these machines cheaper than you will
ever find anywhere else. I can send you a flyer on the machine if you
wish and you can compare them for yourself. Anyway, this machine will
cost you $180 delvered, that means that the shipping and handling
charges are alredy added into this cost. If you can find a cheaper
price let me know and I will beat it.
Sincerely
Greg Gaba
Fitness Warehouse Inc.

Craig

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Jul 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/27/95
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In article <DCC1o...@nsc.nsc.com>
sch...@jedi.nsc.com (Steven M. Scharf) writes:

> Anyone know what is the advantage of the Health Rider roller support versus the
> Cardio Glide hydraulic support? On the surface, the Cardio Glide seems
> better since besides your body weight resistance you can add additional
> resistance, but the Health Rider makes a big deal of the roller mechanism.
> Is it less smooth with the hydraulics?

I've tried both, and I own a Cardio Glide. The roller design of the
HR means that the only resistance is the weight of your own body.
Thus, it's certainly smooth, because there's no mechanical resistance
at all. But I found this also means you don't really get much of a
workout from it, advertising to the contrary. Although you can put a
riser beneath the front feet of the HR, it doesn't really add much
resistance. There are some things about the HR I like--the rolling
handlebar is superior to the CG's fixed bar, and you have slightly
more range of motion on the downstroke, i.e. you're more crouched
before the seat bottoms out against the frame.

The hydraulic cylinder is the best feature of the CG. On the lowest
setting, the CG feels a lot like the HR--the motion is very smooth
and fluid, but it still requires more effort than the HR. At higher
levels, it requires more initial strength to begin a stroke, but
that's the whole idea--the higher levels are designed for strength
and endurance training as opposed to simple fat burning/aerobic
conditioning.

Both machines are quiet. The CG cylinder emits a slight hiss on the
upstroke as the gas cylinder is compressed, but it's not at all
bothersome. You can easily watch TV or listen to music without
distraction. Both have comparable electronic monitors.

Overall, the Cardio Glide is a much more versatile machine. I use it
for both aerobic conditioning 3-4 times a week, and strength training
1-2 times a week on off days. You get more workout in less time than
on the HR, and it's a lot cheaper.


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Craig Miller
Harbinger Solutions

Will Ware

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Jul 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/27/95
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Craig (tsup...@stud.direct.ca) wrote:
: In article <DCC1o...@nsc.nsc.com>

: sch...@jedi.nsc.com (Steven M. Scharf) writes:
: > ... Health Rider roller support versus the
: > Cardio Glide hydraulic support?
: I've tried both, and I own a Cardio Glide. The roller design of the

: HR means that the only resistance is the weight of your own body.
: Thus, it's certainly smooth...
: The hydraulic cylinder is the best feature of the CG...
: the higher levels are designed for strength

: and endurance training as opposed to simple fat burning/aerobic
: conditioning.

Can you disconnect the hydraulic cylinder on the CG if you want to?
Will the machine still work? (I assume at that point it would act pretty
much like the HR.) I am mainly concerned with fat burning/aerobics, and
I'm willing to give up intensity if it means I stick with it better.

Will Ware

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Jul 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/27/95
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Greg Gaba (c651478) wrote:
: I sell the AeroMotion made by Keys Fitness...

Somewhere along the line, your email address got chewed up, and my
newsreader won't let me respond to you. Can you post it? Thanks.

Alex Goykhman

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Jul 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/27/95
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sch...@jedi.nsc.com (Steven M. Scharf) wrote:

>I'm trying to decide between the Weslo Cardio Glide for $180 (hydraulic
>resistance+body weight) or the Health Rider Aerobic Rider for $300.

I bought a CardioGlide because it was cheaper and I like
it very much. It is smooth, the resistance level is easy
to change and my aerobic exersize routine no longer depends
on the weather. I can't compare it to H.R. though.


Stephen Gant

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Jul 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/28/95
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I don't think removing the resistance cylinder is possible---I know it's
not practical. The Cardioglide has 9 resistance settings, and #1 requires
very little effort to operate. #1-#3 are "aerobic" levels; #4-#6 are
"toning" levels; #7-#9 are "strength" levels. The highest setting is
extremely difficult, and I have no interest in exercising there for 20
minutes!

I've used #6 and #7 for 30 minutes every other day (the documentation
emphasizes a day's rest between workouts), but I've found #5 is exactly
the resistance I want. In 30 minutes I can do about 1140 cycles, which is
about 38 or so a minute. I'm huffing and puffing, sweating profusely, and
feel as though I've done some valuable exercise.

I'm also the person who had a problem with the resistance cylinder, but
in retrospect I think it was a result of my own poor judgment. I
lubricated the cylinder's piston rod with a "space age" lubricant, and I
think it did bad things to the cylinder's rubber innards. I keep all
joints well oiled to prevent squeaks, creaks, and moans, but it's
strictly hands off the cylinder!

I think the Cardioglide is a fine exerciser. I bought my Cardiofit from
Sears with an extended warranty. Fifty dollars for 3 years, but they'll
come to my house to maintain it or fix it.
-
Steve Gant
Manteca, California

Sonja E. Kueppers

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Jul 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/31/95
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In article <DCC1o...@nsc.nsc.com>,

Steven M. Scharf <sch...@mirage.nsc.com> wrote:
>
>better since besides your body weight resistance you can add additional
>resistance, but the Health Rider makes a big deal of the roller mechanism.
>Is it less smooth with the hydraulics?

I'm a HealthRider owner (about 3.5 months). I've tried the CardioGlide,
and don't like it nearly as well. I love the silence of the HealthRider,
the smoothness of the motion, the feeling that what I'm doing is "natural",
rather than artificial.

I realize that's a strange thing to say, so I think it needs more
explanation. I've used many different exercise machines, and have
always preferred those where I worked against my body's resistance or
against real weights (rather than, say, rubber bands or cylinders).
There's an instant responsiveness and fluidity to it that I find very
appealing. I feel like I'm doing "real" work, rather than some kind
of "fake", "trumped-up" work. Obviously, this is a very personal thing,
and people who don't have this feeling probably have absolutely no
idea what I'm talking about.

I think your best bet is to try out both machines, if possible. You
may find, like I do, that there's a big difference for you between
the two machines -- though of course, for you it might well be in
favor of the CardioGlide.

Bear in mind, too, that different people's opinions about the machines
will vary depending on what their fitness level and goals are. I'm
interested in general fitness, and think I have an average level of
fitness now. (I used to have a below-average level of fitness, but
have improved with the help of the HealthRider, inline skating, and
various other physical activities.)

I think the rotating handlebar and secondary handlebar position on the
HR are really great. My husband likes the secondary foot position, too.

-Sonja
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Craig

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Aug 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/2/95
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In article <DCDvs...@world.std.com>
ww...@world.std.com (Will Ware) writes:

> Can you disconnect the hydraulic cylinder on the CG if you want to?
> Will the machine still work? (I assume at that point it would act pretty
> much like the HR.) I am mainly concerned with fat burning/aerobics, and
> I'm willing to give up intensity if it means I stick with it better.

You don't have to disconnect the cylinder; simply set it to a level
between 1 and 3. At those levels, the CG is *designed* for fat
burning/aerobics. The advantage of the CG is that you can use it for
those purposes, *plus* you can use it for strength/endurance training
later on. In any event, you can't disconnect the cylinder; it's an
integral part of the CG design.

Lois Abbe

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Aug 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/7/95
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I have a Cardioglide and am pleased with it. I had the opportunity a couple
of weeks ago to see the Healthrider at the local mall. I got on it and the
thing felt like it was going to fall apart right then and there. I got on the
other demo they had and it was the same thing. My Cardioglide is sturdy and
feels a lot more "expensive" than the Healthrider I tried. The one Sears
sells is the exact same thing as the Cardioglide under a different name.

Lea

BrilloSand

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Aug 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/7/95
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In article <3v6ine$v...@news.missouri.edu>, Greg Gaba <c651478> writes:

>Subject: Re: Help, Healthrider vs. Powerrider
>From: Greg Gaba <c651478>
>Date: 26 Jul 1995 23:22:21 GMT

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