who agrees that Joe Weider is a crook
IO3...@maine.maine.edu
of bodybuilders that indulge in drugs for breakfast lunch and dinner.
i don't see how he can be so dishonest. i would gain a great deal of respect
for him if he would only state: 99% of the people in my magizine are on drugs
and although they do use my supplements it is the drugs the give them 99% of
their results .
Jody
p...@waikato.ac.nz
I agree. I agree with what you've said in you message to, but what really gets
up my nose, is how its not the IFBB Mr (or Ms) Olympia anymore, It's the
Joe Weider's Mr Olympia. And it's not training priciples, it's the WEider
training principles. Mr Weider has no right to turn a sport into a industry
based around one man, which is what he is trying to do.
-Pete
Michael P Urban
>I agree. I agree with what you've said in you message to, but what really gets
>up my nose, is how its not the IFBB Mr (or Ms) Olympia anymore, It's the
>Joe Weider's Mr Olympia. And it's not training priciples, it's the WEider
>training principles. Mr Weider has no right to turn a sport into a industry
>based around one man, which is what he is trying to do.
Indeed, it might be argued that one reason that the general public
would laugh to hear bodybuilding described as a `sport' is Weider's
omnipresence. As someone else once said, if the publisher of Tennis
World magazine also put out a whole line of tennis products under his
own name, and the biggest international tournaments were promoted by an
organization that happened to be run by his brother, and the winners
of these tournaments just happened to make money by promoting those
selfsame products in Tennis World magazine, very few people would take
tennis seriously, other than those who play it themselves.
Mike Urban
Lyle McDonald
story with you to help fuel the fire.
One of my professors writes for Ironman magazine and, apparently, they were
solicited by Weider to run an ad for one of his miracle supplements.
Well, the ad claimed that a study had been done at University of Cal San
Diego and even went so far as to reprint "results" from this study
showing how well the supplement worked. Well, my teacher was at UCLA
and knew that the study had not been done (i.e. Weider was lying out
his ass and happened to get caught). Well, UCSD took Weider to court
and ended up settling out of court for something like $40k to actually
perform a study on the stuff. Sadly, the money is but a drop in the
bucket for Mr. Weider considering that his supplements sell millions
each year. But, it points out just how full of it he is despite who
he claims to be.
Lyle
Steve Russell
>Only joking :-) Or am I?!
>
> Ed
>--
>Ed Wilkinson e...@ima.com
>
How about:
alt.flame.weider. crook.crook.crook?:) It could work as a serious idea.
After all, there are newsgroups for people who want to bitch about
fictional characters on televison ( wish I had that kind of time).
Why not a newsgroup of posts like the good ones we have seen documenting
what a cheat this guy is?
Just A thought
Steve R
sf...@wam.umd.edu
Lyle McDonald
>Joe *might* have been honest and believable once, but not anymore, or at least
>not to me.
I agree with you Allen. Unfortunately, Joe has become a businessman first
and foremost and, as such, must sell out his beliefs in order to make a
buck. This is the case with several of the mags out there which function
as glossy product catalogs more than anything else. Yes, M&F does ocassionally
print an article worth reading (though they are few and far between). Muscular
development is slightly the same way and acts as a product catalog for Twinlab
although they at least go to the trouble to research their articles.
Lyle