weight training
BIER, LAURENCE
me if what I ask has an obvious answer. I'm 22 years old and I've
been weight training since February of '92. I try to work out three
times a week. I've made good progress in alot of exercises, but
I can't say I've noticed a marked difference in the amount of muscle
on my body - the only thing that's seems to have changed is that
some jackets I have are now too tight in the arms (and that may be caused
by something else). So it came as a bit of a shock to me when I
was watching tv the other day ("Entertainment Tonight" or something
like that) and saw Charlie Sheen talk about how he had to prepare for
his role in "Hot Shots Part Deux". He looks very pumped up in the footage
from this movie, and yet he couldn't have been working out for more than
a year and a half (the first movie came out in the summer of '91. Figure
the studio decides immediately after the film's release that they want to do a
sequel and tells Charlie to start working out for the role and they start
shooting in late '92). What is this guy doing (that I'm not)
that had such a dramatic effect on his muscle size? Any suggestions?
Any and all information would be appreciated.
Laura Johnson
I remember reacting similarly to Linda Hamilton's buildup for Terminator
II, and then hearing that she'd pretty much made a full-time job
of working out for several months.
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John C. T. Wong
>like that) and saw Charlie Sheen talk about how he had to prepare for
>his role in "Hot Shots Part Deux". He looks very pumped up in the footage
>from this movie, and yet he couldn't have been working out for more than
>a year and a half (the first movie came out in the summer of '91. Figure
>the studio decides immediately after the film's release that they want to do a
>sequel and tells Charlie to start working out for the role and they start
>shooting in late '92). What is this guy doing (that I'm not)
>that had such a dramatic effect on his muscle size? Any suggestions?
>Any and all information would be appreciated.
There was a small article in Men's Fitness (I think -- the Weider
publication) on what he did. From what I remember, he worked out
with a trainer (probably several trainers) for 6 weeks and did
nothing else. This also lowered his body fat to the single digit.
Anyone have that article?
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Stephen L. Faustino
>me if what I ask has an obvious answer. I'm 22 years old and I've
>been weight training since February of '92. I try to work out three
>times a week. I've made good progress in alot of exercises, but
>I can't say I've noticed a marked difference in the amount of muscle
>on my body - the only thing that's seems to have changed is that
>Any and all information would be appreciated.
>
may want to try a different training program. Depending on what your
goals are you may want to go to a 4-day split (half the body on Monday
& Thursday, the other half on Tuesday & Friday). Also, you may want to
increase the intensity of your workout by adding more exercises per bodypart
or increasing weight you use. There are a lot of books out there on the
types of routines you can try, so either buy one or sit in a bookstore and
see if you can find one that you like.
Diet - Some people think too much emphasis is place on nutrition and
supplementation, but I'm not one of them. I think that knowing what you eat
and how much you eat is important if you're trying to gain muscle or lose
fat. However, I don't believe in the "miracle" supplements (eg Cybergenics)
since I've never tried them. I have seen the training manuals that comes
with some of them and the diet and training principles are both pretty sound.
Again, you can refer to any number of books or magazines on this subject, but
take some of the advice with a grain of salt. Probably the best book that
I've found on that subject is the Gold's Gym Mass Training Book ( don't
quote me on the title, but it's a blue book with Mass Training written in
big letters on the front, so you'll know it if you see it). The author who
wrote the nutrition chapter in the book is Ken Sprague, bodybuilder/
nutritionist. I went to his seminar when he came to the Gold's down here
and his views are pretty sound and they've worked for me.
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Dhaval Dave
>his role in "Hot Shots Part Deux". He looks very pumped up in the footage
>from this movie, and yet he couldn't have been working out for more than
>a year and a half (the first movie came out in the summer of '91. Figure
>the studio decides immediately after the film's release that they want to do a
>sequel and tells Charlie to start working out for the role and they start
>shooting in late '92). What is this guy doing (that I'm not)
>that had such a dramatic effect on his muscle size? Any suggestions?
>Any and all information would be appreciated.
There is an article in Men's Fitness magazine about this (I think it's the
one currently on the newsstand). Charlie Sheen got a personal trainer
for a few months, not a year and a half, and he ate, slept, and breathed
fitness. He got up at 5AM, did some running, lifted weights twice a day
four or more days a week, did martial arts, ate a strict diet of low-fat
proteins and carbos, etc. A serious training schedule, but not so bad
if you're being paid millions of dollars to do it, right?
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Andrew Infante
Well, ya figure, he's got
nothing else to do but film and
workout, so he's probably been
on a high protein/carb diet
and working out every day (or so)
plus got an expensive trainer
to tell him exactly what to do...
maybe he's sucking on Vitamin S! ;)
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Paolo Gardinali
>was watching tv the other day ("Entertainment Tonight" or something
>like that) and saw Charlie Sheen talk about how he had to prepare for
>his role in "Hot Shots Part Deux". He looks very pumped up in the footage
>from this movie, and yet he couldn't have been working out for more than
>a year and a half (the first movie came out in the summer of '91. Figure
>the studio decides immediately after the film's release that they want to do a
>sequel and tells Charlie to start working out for the role and they start
>shooting in late '92). What is this guy doing (that I'm not)
>that had such a dramatic effect on his muscle size? Any suggestions?
>Any and all information would be appreciated.
Yeah, I was really surprised by Charlie "Rambo" Sheene in Hot Shots... I
remember also the case of Travolta getting (relatively) ripped for "Staying
Alive". In that case Stallone (the director) supervised the training. I
was wondering to how they can achieve this (for me) amazing results. Drugs?
Personal training?
PAolo
(Happy H
Godfrey Degamo
Yes! Yes!
It is in the June issue of Men's Fitness, a great magazine. Anyways,
there's also another article on Dan Harvey, a personal trainer. He
works closely with Robert De Niro. Harvey worked out a program for
De Niro to add lean muscle mass for Cape Fear.
So, run out and get your issue of Men's Fitness today!
-G. Degamo,
spac...@acs.bu.edu
Godfrey Degamo
oops!
one more thing:
The article on Dan Harvey, covers the issues of efficient workout
routine; how to get most out of an hours worth of working out every
day. The routine emphasizes exercises that attack the major muscle
groups couples with aerobics.
-G. Degamo,
spac...@acs.bu.edu
Ron Cecchini
>In <25MAY199...@pavo.concordia.ca> l_b...@pavo.concordia.ca (BIER, LAURENCE) writes:
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>Yeah, I was really surprised by Charlie "Rambo" Sheene in Hot Shots... I
>remember also the case of Travolta getting (relatively) ripped for "Staying
>Alive". In that case Stallone (the director) supervised the training. I
>was wondering to how they can achieve this (for me) amazing results. Drugs?
>Personal training?
>
>PAolo
>(Happy H
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
rrrrrrrrrrr - this gets me! I am not flaming, so hold on.
You DON'T need drugs to put on a decent amount of size and/or get cut!
While Travolta and Sheen may look good to the normal public, they are
far from impressive as far as bodybuilding goes.
The reason I get irked (remember this one Poo?), is because I hear so
many people saying "Well, I'm not that big 'cause I won't do drugs" and
stuff like that. When the reality is that these people aren't
eating/training/sleeping right. Too many people short-change themselves
(the other one that gets me is "Well, I'm not that big 'cause I don't
have the genetics.")
Ron
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Guy D'Andrea
Well don't feel so bad, the muscles ARE fake! Yes they are made out of foam
rubber - believe it or not. One action shot show some of the foam rubber
wrinkling funny near his arm pit. Look closely.... ;-)
Brian Tao
>
> Well don't feel so bad, the muscles ARE fake!
Oh *really*? Where did you hear this from? I picked up a copy of
the June _Men's_Fitness_ with Sheen on the cover. This guy had a cross-
training program which lasted 8 to 10 hours six days of every week for
five weeks. 1000 reps of crunches, decline crunches, leg raises, etc.!
The make-up artist may have applied foam rubber prosthetics to bulk out
his shoulders, but what you see on screen is real.
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Charles Lin
In article <C7ssH...@r-node.hub.org>, ta...@r-node.hub.org (Brian Tao) writes:
>In article <1993May27.1...@ns.network.com>, Guy D'Andrea writes...
>>
>> Well don't feel so bad, the muscles ARE fake!
>
> Oh *really*? Where did you hear this from? I picked up a copy of
>the June _Men's_Fitness_ with Sheen on the cover. This guy had a cross-
>training program which lasted 8 to 10 hours six days of every week for
>five weeks. 1000 reps of crunches, decline crunches, leg raises, etc.!
>The make-up artist may have applied foam rubber prosthetics to bulk out
>his shoulders, but what you see on screen is real.
Here's my question. You read from various sources that working
out should not require more than, say, an hour and a half for about
three days a week. Any more seems to not have beneficial effect
(not able to recover from the muscle sores, etc.). Yet, this article
says that he was working out 8 to 10 hours a week. Is that supposed
to be some sort of counter argument? I.e., more is better?
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Brian Tao
Oh *really*? Where did you hear this from? I picked up a copy of
the June _Men's_Fitness_ with Sheen on the cover. This guy had a cross-
training program which lasted 8 to 10 hours six days of every week for
five weeks. 1000 reps of crunches, decline crunches, leg raises, etc.!
The make-up artist may have applied foam rubber prosthetics to bulk out
his shoulders, but what you see on screen is real.
Blaine Hufnagle
>
>
> Here's my question. You read from various sources that working
>out should not require more than, say, an hour and a half for about
>three days a week. Any more seems to not have beneficial effect
>(not able to recover from the muscle sores, etc.). Yet, this article
>says that he was working out 8 to 10 hours a week. Is that supposed
>to be some sort of counter argument? I.e., more is better?
>
How much you can do per day depends upon your recovery rate. If you are
eating lots of food, and getting lots of rest, it is possible to do this
kind of workout regimen and not burn out overnight. Having some kind of
serious supervision by a licenced trainer and dietician who is aware of the
food requirements to support this type of regimen often makes the
difference between success and failure.
Chemical enhancement doesn't hurt, either, by whatever means you see fit.
-blaine
gilbert.m.stewart
>In article <1993May27.1...@ns.network.com>, Guy D'Andrea writes...
>>
>> Well don't feel so bad, the muscles ARE fake!
>
> Oh *really*? Where did you hear this from? I picked up a copy of
>the June _Men's_Fitness_ with Sheen on the cover. This guy had a cross-
>training program which lasted 8 to 10 hours six days of every week for
>five weeks. 1000 reps of crunches, decline crunches, leg raises, etc.!
>The make-up artist may have applied foam rubber prosthetics to bulk out
>his shoulders, but what you see on screen is real.
Oh, sure, Brian. But you have to remember that he's only 4'3" tall,
and it's easier to bulk up when you're that much shorter even than
Arnie.
The foam rubber prosthetics were applied to the soles of his feet
to the top of his head to make him appear all of his Hot Shots
5'11".
Hope this helps.
GMS
Dhaval Dave
>
> Here's my question. You read from various sources that working
>out should not require more than, say, an hour and a half for about
>three days a week. Any more seems to not have beneficial effect
>(not able to recover from the muscle sores, etc.). Yet, this article
>says that he was working out 8 to 10 hours a week. Is that supposed
>to be some sort of counter argument? I.e., more is better?
>
Well, Charlie Sheen's workout was NOT 8 hours of lifting/day. He lifted
twice a day 4 days a week (I think), but each session was about 1 1/2 hrs.
Plus he did aerobics, martial arts, sports, with good rest and eating
schedule. More can be better, if done as part of a supervised, well
thought out schedule tuned for your particular body.
Brian Tao
>
> Oh, sure, Brian. But you have to remember that he's only 4'3" tall,
> and it's easier to bulk up when you're that much shorter even than
> Arnie.
>
> The foam rubber prosthetics were applied to the soles of his feet
> to the top of his head to make him appear all of his Hot Shots
> 5'11".
Of course... I failed to consider this possibility... :)