cybergenics
Scott A. Heers
Yeah...I'd like some more information, too. The people shown
on the package all have decent muscle tone to begin with. I'd
like to know of some tub like me who used it six weeks before
beach season and wound up looking like that!
Darius Boockholdt
Well, I tried Cybergenics a couple of years ago and I have mixed feelings
on the program. The reason I did it in the first place (disclaimer) is the
fact that I (and my partner) needed a new routine, and something we were
forced to stick to. We had been working out together for a while, and both
were on a plateau. So we chose to try the 6 week package (at that time there
was a 6 week and a 10 or 12 week package, each slightly different). In looking
at the bottom line: we got over our plateaus, I ripped up very nicely, I gained
about 5#'s, and I felt great, all in 6 weeks of working out. Sounds good, right?
Well, maybe it was a good deal and maybe it wasn't.
The 6 week package I bought costs around $70 (or did). With it you get a load of
supplements to take at various times, a workout plan, and some overall nutritional
info. If these things played equal roles in helping me, I would say it was worth it.
However, I am convinced that it was 90% the workout plan and 10% the supplements
(although these are just my feelings). The 6 wk. version of the workout was very
intense (more so than any other program I had been on), but very do-able. I just
feel that this was probably what I needed to get me over the hump; the workout was
once a day (6 days a wk.), and every set was to failure. I have never seen what
the full blown 12 wk. program includes, but I've heard it's twice as intense
(twice a day workouts - stuff I can't even imagine).
So, the way I look at it, I payed a pretty high price for a pretty good workout
routine. I am sure there are routines out there that are just as good, only free.
Maybe I am not giving the supplements that came with the package enough credit, I
don't know. However, if there is anyone out there that does know more, or has an
opinion on the matter, your ideas are valued.
If I were to give advice, and I don't like to, I would say spare the money and find
someone that has been through the program and have them give it to you. Use the
workout and see how it suits you. If you would like to see the program, let me know,
I might be able to dig it up somewhere.
P.S. - I have been out of the bodybuilding/weightlifting scene for a yearish and I
desperately need some motivation/inspiration to get back to it. Someone call me
a fat lazy pig or something. Thanks.
MikeD30786
was on a quite intense weight-loss program to begin with (1200 cal/day, lots of
exercise), and lost 40 pounds (none of which I attribute to Cybergenics), I
didn't end up looking like the guys on the box. Not that I disbelive that it
can happen, but as they say, individual results may vary.
Look at those guys closely. Even though they're fat, they have a lot of muscle
to begin with. It's just that the fat hides the muscle. Therefore, unless
you're like them, you're not going to end up like them, either. I imagine that
both of those guys were on hi-protein, lo-carbo diets, with a very large dose
of daily aerobics, too. If you do this, regardless of Cybergenics, you'll lose
weight and look like them.
What's in it? You get your usual daily multi-vitamin, fiber to help you "stave
hunger" (b.s.), and the usual Chromium and L-Carnitine supplements. In other
words, you've just paid $60 for supplements you could easily buy for $20.
That's my suggestion. Buy yourself some good-quality Chromium and L-Carnitine,
don't have any fat in your diet, work out like mad aerobically, and if you have
a lot of muscle in the first place, you'll look like them after six-eight
weeks. Supplements are food, not drugs. Unlike steriods, by themselves they
won't do anything for you. You have to work *hard*; they'll provide a little
bit of marginal benefit.
- Mike.
moo...@castlebbs.com
Listen up you fat lazy pig! WORKOUT!!! :)
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beavis
impressed with the result it claimed to show. On the box, a six-week
improvement was shown and it was very impressive. Now, is this just a
scam? Has anyone had any experience with it?????
Thanks.
Jack.
Steven Edward Flores
~ : someone that has been through the program and have them give it to you. Use the
: workout and see how it suits you. If you would like to see the program, let me know,
: I might be able to dig it up somewhere.
Darius
If you could find the program I'd love to see it. I seem to be
stuck at a plateau and I need to find a new program. Anyway I would greatly
appreciate it if you could post or send me the program. Thanks.
Unknown
SEF> Darius Boockholdt (dboo...@apollo.HP.COM) wrote: ~ : someone
SEF> that has been through the program and have them give it to
SEF> you. Use the : workout and see how it suits you. If you
SEF> would like to see the program, let me know, : I might be able
SEF> to dig it up somewhere.
SEF> Darius
SEF> If you could find the program I'd love to see it. I
SEF> seem to be stuck at a plateau and I need to find a new
SEF> program. Anyway I would greatly appreciate it if you could
SEF> post or send me the program. Thanks.
SEF> steve sef...@tamsun.tamu.edu
Hi Steve,
This Cybergenics routine was posted last year by Jason Fahy and I had saved
it.(No wonder my harddisk is full). Never used it as I found a much
more sensible program.
Read and enjoy!
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Here is the Cybergenics workout regimen, quoted to the
best of my ability from pp. 49-55 of the Cybergenics Total
Bodybuilding System handbook.
OPTIMIZING THE CYBERGENICS WORKOUT: IMPORTANT POINTS TO REMEMBER
1. Every cycle must be brought to the point of total negative
failure. At the end of each cycle your muscles should
be fatigued to the point that completion of the movement
without any added resistance is momentarily impossible or
extremely difficult (depending on the movement).
2. There should be no rest whatsoever between each set of the
cycle. You should only rest long enough between each cycle
for your partner to complete his/her cycle. Keep rest time to
an absolute minimum.
3. All training must be all-out, utilizing 100% effort. Concentrate
everything and focus every bit of energy on every set and every
repetition. The set and cycle is over only when raising or lowering
the weight is physically impossible, even when 100% effort is
being imposed.
4. Stretch hard for 30 seconds after each cycle. This is extremely
important to the Cybergenics effect.
5. When doing forced reps, offer only enough assistance to raise
the weight. Do not offer superfluous assistance as it is dangerous
and counterproductive to the Cybergenics effect.
6. Use music during workout, as it evokes excitement and contributes
to the "psyche". This will help to increase concentration and
actually release small amounts of adrenaline.
7. Visualize extreme circumstances which evoke fear, excitement, etc.,
during and immediately before the workout. This type of "psyching"
can significantly boost training intensity, through the release of
adrenaline as well as through various other psychochemical factors.
8. Concentrate on raising the weight as quickly as possible while
lowering it very slowly, taking up to six seconds to do so. This
is extremely important to the Cybergenics effect.
9. Do not count repetitions, as there is no designated number that should
be performed. The cycle and/or set is completed only when total
negative failure is reached.
TRAINING SCHEDULE SUMMARY
Important: Workout should follow a 13-15hr. fast, and be performed
on an empty stomach. Always warm-up before beginning workout and
stretch after every cycle.
DAY ONE AND FOUR
CYCLE 1-T REPEAT CYCLE 4 TIMES
Squats at 80% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Squats at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Jumps (without weight) (+) and (-) failure
Deep Knee Bends (without weight) (+) and (-) failure
Flexing (for 30 seconds)
CYCLE 2-T REPEAT CYCLE 2 TIMES
Leg extensions at 90% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Leg extensions at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Leg curls at 80% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Leg curls at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
CYCLE 1-LL REPEAT CYCLE 3 TIMES
Calf raises at 90% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Calf raises at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Single leg calf raises at 80% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Calf raises (without weight) (+) and (-) failure
Flexing (for 30 seconds)
CYCLE 1-TR REPEAT CYCLE 4 TIMES
Barbell shrugs at 90% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Dumbbell shrugs at 90% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Upright rows at 75% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Upright rows at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
CYCLE 1-A REPEAT CYCLE 3 TIMES
Crunching sit-ups at 50% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Crunching sit-ups (without weight) (+) and (-) failure
Leg raises (without weight) (+) and (-) failure
DAY TWO AND FIVE
CYCLE 1-CT REPEAT CYCLE 4 TIMES
Dumbbell flyes at 80% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Dumbbell flyes at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Bench press at 60-70% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Flexing (for 30 seconds)
CYCLE 2-CT REPEAT CYCLE 2 TIMES
Incline press at 90% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Incline press at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Parallel bar dips (without weight) (+) and (-) failure
CYCLE 1-B REPEAT CYCLE 6 TIMES
Lat Pulldowns at 95% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Lat Pulldowns at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Lat Pulldowns at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
CYCLE 2-B REPEAT CYCLE 5 TIMES
Seated Cable Rows at 90% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Seated Cable Rows at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Seated Cable Rows at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
DAY THREE AND SIX
CYCLE 1-SH REPEAT CYCLE 5 TIMES
Barbell Press at 95% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Barbell Press at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Barbell Press at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Lateral Raises at 80% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Lateral Raises at 40% of the above (+) and (-) failure
CYCLE 1-AA REPEAT CYCLE 3 TIMES
Barbell Curls at 95% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Barbell Curls at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Barbell Curls at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
CYCLE 2-AA REPEAT CYCLE 2 TIMES
One-arm Concentration Curls at 95% maximum (+) and (-) failure
One-arm Concentration Curls at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
One-arm Concentration Curls at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
CYCLE 1-TR REPEAT CYCLE 4 TIMES
Lying Barbell Extensions at 90% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Close Grip Bench Press at same weight as above (+) and (-) failure
Lying Barbell Extensions at 90% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Close Grip Bench Press at same weight as above (+) and (-) failure
CYCLE 2-TR REPEAT CYCLE 2 TIMES
Medium Grip Pressdowns at 90% maximum (+) and (-) failure
Medium Grip Pressdowns at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
Medium Grip Pressdowns at 50% of the above (+) and (-) failure
...That's it. Let me know if you make it through any of
these alive; I'd like to shake your hand.
Jason F.
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Scott A. Heers
Darius,
I'd like more information, too, but my e-mail didn't get through
to you.