whey protein altternative?
boiler...@yahoo.com
Ive been drinking powdered milk (skimmed) instead. It has:
Fat 0.25gr
PRotein 7.6gr
Carbs 13.3gr
Serving is 25gr
And I ussually have four servings of this ( about 50gr carb and 30gr
prot)
Well my questions is: Is this good for me? Is this recommendable?
What are the goods and bads of this? As far as I can see its only good,
it has proteins, carbs and almost no fat but I heard somene say taht
cabrs in milk are baaaad.
thanks a lot in advance guys!
OmManiPadmeOmelet
boiler...@yahoo.com wrote:
How about "food"?
Meat, eggs, etc.
As for protein gram value tho', you may find that gram for gram, shakes
can be a a bargain. Check out the gram per penny price of protein
powders.
But, eggs are a VERY cheap and quality source, especially if you buy the
36 count cartons. I believe that the protein content of eggs FAR
outweighs what is in even skim milk.
--
Peace!
Om
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
Jason Earl
> hey guys. lately i havent had enough money to buy a protein shake but
> Ive been drinking powdered milk (skimmed) instead. It has:
> Fat 0.25gr
> PRotein 7.6gr
> Carbs 13.3gr
> Serving is 25gr
> And I ussually have four servings of this ( about 50gr carb and 30gr
> prot)
> Well my questions is: Is this good for me? Is this recommendable?
> What are the goods and bads of this? As far as I can see its only good,
Milk and squats is pretty standard issue advice. As Om said eggs are
inexpensive too.
Of course, the Whey protein I get from Costco is less than $0.20 per
serving (21 grams of protein), which is also pretty inexpensive.
> it has proteins, carbs and almost no fat but I heard somene say taht
> cabrs in milk are baaaad. thanks a lot in advance guys!
If you aren't lactose intolerant then the carbs in milk are just
carbs.
Jason
joanne
Jason Earl wrote:
> If you aren't lactose intolerant then the carbs in milk are just
> carbs.
'Just carbs' in this case means sugar carbs with no fiber so yeah they
probably are not that 'good' for you considering there are other
choices.
To the OP, look for a variety of other cheap foods to increase your
protein intake. Someone else mentioned eggs (6grams protein per whole
egg) but also add canned tuna (24grams protein in 3oz tin) and cottage
cheese (31grams protein per cup). Look for meats/fish on sale - shop
the specials. A little goes a long way. Learn to cook/marinate cheaper
cuts of meat. Ground beef can be bought cheap and 'washed' after
cooking to reduce its fat content (about 20grams protein per 3oz). And
I agree, as someone suggested, some protein powders (like The Costco
brand) may seem like a big outlay of cash at the time, but when you
figure out the cost per serving, its pretty cheap.
Also dont forget the more well rounded diet you have, you do get some
plant protein in other foods that may have higher carb content. You CAN
build a varied diet on the cheap if you know what to look for in foods
- these links may help.
http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/vegetables-nutrition-chart.html
(also see under nuts/seeds and some fruits too)
http://www.ntwrks.com/~mikev/chart1a.htm
http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/foodlab.html
joanne
Bill Eitner
shipping. A 30 gram serving has 21 grams of
protein. Use those numbers to compare protein
content and value. Comparatively, 2/3 of what
you're getting is carbohydrate. You didn't
mention what you're paying for it. It's probably
less than $5 per pound, but it's only 1/3 as much
protein. If you're trying to gain weight and/or
looking for a cheap meal supplement, then the
powdered milk is probably okay. If you're trying
to lose fat and spare muscle (that's what I'm doing),
2/3 carbohydrate is a bitch.
--
JMW
But you fail to mention that 61% of the caloric value of whole raw egg
is from fat, and 37.5% of that is saturated fats.
OmManiPadmeOmelet
JMW <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
Not if you toss the yolks...... ;-)
JMW
Then you should have specified egg whites.
As to egg whites, your claim is reasonable. However, egg whites alone
do not taste nearly as good as whole eggs. Therein lies the dilemma.
Jason Earl
> Jason Earl wrote:
>> If you aren't lactose intolerant then the carbs in milk are just
>> carbs.
>
> 'Just carbs' in this case means sugar carbs with no fiber so yeah
> they probably are not that 'good' for you considering there are
> other choices.
I would argue that milk is pretty darn good for you. Unlike some, I
don't think carbs are the devil. If you happen to be lactose
intolerant then milk is problematic, but if you aren't, then milk is a
very solid food source.
> To the OP, look for a variety of other cheap foods to increase your
> protein intake. Someone else mentioned eggs (6grams protein per
> whole egg) but also add canned tuna (24grams protein in 3oz tin) and
> cottage cheese (31grams protein per cup). Look for meats/fish on
> sale - shop the specials.
Eggs and tuna are both very inexpensive. The potential for mercury
problems with tuna makes me a little wary about advising its use as a
primary protein source.
Then again, a guys got to eat something...
> A little goes a long way. Learn to cook/marinate cheaper cuts of
> meat. Ground beef can be bought cheap and 'washed' after cooking to
> reduce its fat content (about 20grams protein per 3oz). And I
> agree, as someone suggested, some protein powders (like The Costco
> brand) may seem like a big outlay of cash at the time, but when you
> figure out the cost per serving, its pretty cheap. Also dont forget
> the more well rounded diet you have, you do get some plant protein
> in other foods that may have higher carb content. You CAN build a
> varied diet on the cheap if you know what to look for in foods -
> these links may help.
Chili is good. It is inexpensive, it tastes good, it is easy to make
in the crock pot, and you'll never have to complain about not getting
enough fiber :).
> http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/vegetables-nutrition-chart.html
> (also see under nuts/seeds and some fruits too)
>
> http://www.ntwrks.com/~mikev/chart1a.htm
>
> http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/foodlab.html
Plants are good for you, film at 11.
Jason
Larry Hodges
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I typically will do one whole egg and 2 - 3 whites for breakfast fried in
olive oil. And I'll dump uncooked salsa or some red chili sauce on top.
Makes a great meal. Add some fruit on the side and you're good to go.
-Larry
JMW
I like my eggs fried "over easy." They aren't very good without the
yolks. A spicy salsa might make the whites tolerable, but they'd
still be pretty bland. Kinda like eating tofu.
OmManiPadmeOmelet
JMW <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
Sorry... One would hope that anyone with any knowledge of nutrition
would assume that. ;-)
>
> As to egg whites, your claim is reasonable. However, egg whites alone
> do not taste nearly as good as whole eggs. Therein lies the dilemma.
Indeed. I handle it by simply adding one yolk back per 6 eggs when
making omelets, scrambled eggs or frittatas.
Chicken hindquarters are frequently on sale as well for $.79 or less
during the standard "grilling" holidays. I've still paid as low as $.49
once last year. Skin them and de-fat the thigh meat and you have yet
another inexpensive and delicious protein source.
I can get catfish nuggets for $1.29. Contact grilling (I use a Hamilton
rather than a Foreman grill) removes most of the oil from those. I find
it in the catch bin.
I splurged this labor day tho' and bought New York Strip steak. It was
on sale for $4.99. ;-d
OmManiPadmeOmelet
Jason Earl <je...@xmission.com> wrote:
> Eggs and tuna are both very inexpensive. The potential for mercury
> problems with tuna makes me a little wary about advising its use as a
> primary protein source.
>
> Then again, a guys got to eat something...
I understand that canned tuna is not as bad as fresh tuna steaks?
Supposedly, it's mostly made from the younger, smaller tuna that have
not built up as much mercury in their flesh. I've not googled that
factoid tho' so I'm not sure if it's true. I read it somewhere but don't
recall where.
Comments?
Canned tuna is probably one of the cheapest protein sources out there if
you calculate the cost per gram?
OmManiPadmeOmelet
JMW <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
> >I typically will do one whole egg and 2 - 3 whites for breakfast fried in
> >olive oil. And I'll dump uncooked salsa or some red chili sauce on top.
> >Makes a great meal. Add some fruit on the side and you're good to go.
>
> I like my eggs fried "over easy." They aren't very good without the
> yolks. A spicy salsa might make the whites tolerable, but they'd
> still be pretty bland. Kinda like eating tofu.
"Leftovers Omelets". Gives one an excuse to clean out the 'frige.
Sautee' a small onion, a handful of sliced mushrooms, a minced clove of
fresh garlic, a half-dozen leftover grilled shrimps or any sliced meat.
Fold that into the omelet with a little bit of shredded part-skim
mozarella......
A few fresh baby spinach leaves added is even better. I generally have
those around anyway for salads.
Larry Hodges
The salsa makes it really good. And of course, you still have one egg yolk.
But use the uncooked from the refrigerated section, not the bottled stuff on
the shelf. Actually, I eat a tub of it a week. I use it on salads, in stir
frys, everything. And for a great snack, try plopping a drained can of
Albacore tuna on a plate and dumping some salsa on it. I've grown to love
it.
Here is the chili sauce that is my absolute favorite:
http://huyfong.com/frames/index.htm
I get it from Winco. I think most grocery stores have it. Hot, but not too
hot. IOW, you can still taste the food, not just fry your face.
-Larry
Bully
> "joanne" <jgr...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Jason Earl wrote:
>>> If you aren't lactose intolerant then the carbs in milk are just
>>> carbs.
>>
>> 'Just carbs' in this case means sugar carbs with no fiber so yeah
>> they probably are not that 'good' for you considering there are
>> other choices.
>
> I would argue that milk is pretty darn good for you. Unlike some, I
> don't think carbs are the devil. If you happen to be lactose
> intolerant then milk is problematic, but if you aren't, then milk is a
> very solid food source.
>
>> To the OP, look for a variety of other cheap foods to increase your
>> protein intake. Someone else mentioned eggs (6grams protein per
>> whole egg) but also add canned tuna (24grams protein in 3oz tin) and
>> cottage cheese (31grams protein per cup). Look for meats/fish on
>> sale - shop the specials.
>
> Eggs and tuna are both very inexpensive. The potential for mercury
> problems
What mercury problems are they?
> with tuna makes me a little wary about advising its use as a
> primary protein source.
>
> Then again, a guys got to eat something...
>
>> A little goes a long way. Learn to cook/marinate cheaper cuts of
>> meat. Ground beef can be bought cheap and 'washed' after cooking to
>> reduce its fat content (about 20grams protein per 3oz). And I
>> agree, as someone suggested, some protein powders (like The Costco
>> brand) may seem like a big outlay of cash at the time, but when you
>> figure out the cost per serving, its pretty cheap. Also dont forget
>> the more well rounded diet you have, you do get some plant protein
>> in other foods that may have higher carb content. You CAN build a
>> varied diet on the cheap if you know what to look for in foods -
>> these links may help.
>
> Chili is good. It is inexpensive, it tastes good, it is easy to make
> in the crock pot, and you'll never have to complain about not getting
> enough fiber :).
>
>> http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/vegetables-nutrition-chart.html
>> (also see under nuts/seeds and some fruits too)
>>
>> http://www.ntwrks.com/~mikev/chart1a.htm
>>
>> http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/foodlab.html
>
> Plants are good for you, film at 11.
>
> Jason
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JMW
Right now, I'm working on multiple tubs of salsa from the garden.
>Here is the chili sauce that is my absolute favorite:
>http://huyfong.com/frames/index.htm
>
>I get it from Winco. I think most grocery stores have it. Hot, but not too
>hot. IOW, you can still taste the food, not just fry your face.
I have a whole collection of pepper sauces that I alternate so that I
don't get too bored with a specific one. But I'm always looking for
new ones that fit the description you just gave.
joanne
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> I understand that canned tuna is not as bad as fresh tuna steaks?
> Supposedly, it's mostly made from the younger, smaller tuna that have
> not built up as much mercury in their flesh. I've not googled that
> factoid tho' so I'm not sure if it's true. I read it somewhere but don't
> recall where.
"Because tuna steak generally contains higher levels of mercury than
canned light tuna, when choosing your two meals of fish and shellfish,
you may eat up to 6 ounces (one average meal) of tuna steak per week."
http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/admehg3.html
And a chart of different types of seafood - including different types
of tuna:
http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/sea-mehg.html
The above links were linked to this article:
http://www.pbs.org/now/science/mercuryinfish.html
joanne
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"joanne" <jgr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thank you. :-)
Jason Earl
> Jason Earl wrote:
>> Eggs and tuna are both very inexpensive. The potential for mercury
>> problems
>
> What mercury problems are they?
http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/admehg3.html
Now, I don't know what the heck this means in terms of toxicity, and
if you dig into numbers involved you'll quickly realize that a lot of
the numbers are very "hand-wavy." The fact of the matter is that we
don't actually measure this stuff enough to know for sure how
dangerous fish really are.
I eat tuna on a weekly basis, but I don't recommend tuna without at
least mentioning mercury.
Jason
misanthropic_curmudgeon
Larry Hodges wrote:
> I typically will do one whole egg and 2 - 3 whites for breakfast fried in
> olive oil.
Times four. Added to a pan full of fried tomatoes and mushrooms.
And a plate of fruit and yogurt.
And crackers and peanut butter.
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"misanthropic_curmudgeon"
<misanthropi...@breastcancermail.com> wrote:
> Larry Hodges wrote:
>
> > I typically will do one whole egg and 2 - 3 whites for breakfast fried in
> > olive oil.
>
> Times four. Added to a pan full of fried tomatoes and mushrooms.
You forgot the garlic... :-d
A bit of sliced celery works too.
>
> And a plate of fruit and yogurt.
>
> And crackers and peanut butter.