Still Alive and JUICING!!!! :D
Van Der
Folks Like Rob are still around... Sad to know about Patrick Arnold..
As for me, for those who remember me, I'm today weighting 210 lbs VERY Lean
and hard...juicin non-stop since 2000, and very healty thank you very much.
Roids RULZ!
Van Der
the "juice pig"
ATP*
"Van Der" <rud...@rudnik.de> wrote in message
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Good to hear from you!
Lester Long
WOW.....glad to see you are alive and healthy!
Lester
WooferBearATL
John
news:5383f.15278$ke....@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Or he's only been eating 1500 calories a day.
WooferBearATL
"John" <y_tu_momm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Van Der
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Thanks Leste! Nice to see you still here too. :D
Van Der
news:5383f.15278$ke....@bignews3.bellsouth.net:
2000 I was 176lbs.... I'm a true HARDGAINER! But on the other hand never
new what means being fat... pretty happy the way it is..
Rudnik
news:JBs3f.19770$Lp.1...@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
I'm 5'7" BTW.
WooferBearATL
either not doing the correct combination or not eating correctly. I can not
imagine someone cycling for 5 years and only at 210#
Spammers_Should_Be_Shot
The real illuminating fact is not that he's *only* 210#, but that he only
gained 34#'s in FIVE years! Hell, that's less than a 7#/yr average gain!!!
And he had to juice to do that? Of course he then goes on to say how he's a
"HARDGAINER" which helps explain a lot about how much of an idiot he is. I
used to think I was a hardgainer until I started to eat more!
With the right routine and diet this guy could have gained more WITHOUT
steriods.
Hobbes
"Spammers_Should_Be_Shot" <NoS...@MyEmail.com> wrote:
I don't know how you can make that statement.
Arnold won the Mr. Olympia weighing 215# - that was after using juice
for years. I doubt anyone would say he was anything but huge.
210# doesn't really convey enough information about Van Der's condition
and conveys nothing about his genetic potential.
Or how hard he trains, etc. Often juice is simply a shortcut for lazy
people. OTOH, Schuh was ripped to shreds at 210# and pretty big and he
was a hard trainer.
--
Keith
WooferBearATL
"Spammers_Should_Be_Shot" <NoS...@MyEmail.com> wrote in message
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doing.
>
WooferBearATL
"Hobbes" <khobm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Point blank, 210# is not the size of anyone that I know that juices. Just
isn't.
Robert Schuh
Needless to say, to this day, NO ONE has died from using anabolic steroids. You
are FAR better off taking juice, training hard, eating well and doing cardio
than anyone who sits on their ass, smokes, drinks and makes all sorts of pseudo
moralistic comments about how using steroids is "cheating." Do a Google search
on my good friend Bob Clapp. He is 70s years old, is in better shape than
99.99999% of the 25 year olds out there and has been using anabolic steroids
for over 40 years. I am now 14 years post renal failure and 7 years since my
kidney transplant and I am on Testosterone replacement therapy. Congress and
the media are full of shit.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
Robert Schuh
Trace,
From what I recall, you should know many people on steroids for either
replacement therapy or for HIV wasting. I hope that you are not claiming that
this guy is ignorant for using anabolic steroids.
Take care
Rob
Robert Schuh
It really depends upon his body composition and not actual weight.
Robert Schuh
Keith,
I won a # of shows at 176 at 5'10" tall and was at my best at 198 on the day of
the show. Body weight means NOTHING. I have a very small bone structure, so I used
to look 20-30 lbs on stage than I actually was. No matter what people claim they
weigh etc., THE key is how they look standing on stage with the lights beating
down! :-)
WooferBearATL
"Robert Schuh" <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:434F46D9...@yahoo.com...
most folk in ATL are skilled on this topic, I just find it hard to believe
someone has juiced 5 years and not gainged more mass. For certain they must
not be using GH.
>
Van Der
>
> Needless to say, to this day, NO ONE has died from using anabolic
> steroids. You are FAR better off taking juice, training hard, eating
> well and doing cardio than anyone who sits on their ass, smokes,
> drinks and makes all sorts of pseudo moralistic comments about how
> using steroids is "cheating." Do a Google search on my good friend Bob
> Clapp. He is 70s years old, is in better shape than 99.99999% of the
> 25 year olds out there and has been using anabolic steroids for over
> 40 years. I am now 14 years post renal failure and 7 years since my
> kidney transplant and I am on Testosterone replacement therapy.
> Congress and the media are full of shit.
Also to note... I do regular blood tests and my doctor (urologist), it's
quite surprised that besides high test levels, and low LH and FSH, all
other body functions are damm normal, liver, kidneys, cholesterol, blood
preassure, glycemia, thyreoid etc... to note also that besides test, I use
GH, Insulin and Thyreoid hormones...
Van Der
news:bWx3f.19902$Lp....@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
I DON'T DO CYCLE, I alternate drugs and doses. I never go off... I don't
beleive in such thing as Cycle. Or you ar in or not.. once you shut down
your balls better stay inn... This Clomid theory is BULLSHIT!
Van Der
news:cuatk1594rvhppmmv...@4ax.com:
> 210 lbs. at, say, 7% bodyfat looks a lot more impressive than you
> probably think. Check out the competiton weights for the Mr. Olympia.
> Except Ronnie Coleman. That guy's a freak.
>
> Steroids can be used for getting as ripped as humanly possible, as
> well as as huge as humanly possible, though save for competitive
> bodybuilders the vast majoirty will use them for the latter.
>
>
At my height 5'7" (170cm) at this weight, I could compete in a amateur
class with pretty good chances, I'm pretty happy with my look today.
Van Der
news:1Ry3f.292$1A1...@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com:
Don't be such a STUPID. you know nothing about Steroids...
Hobbes
Robert Schuh <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Exactly my point Rob. But that was show time. I imagine during bulking
you got up to 210 or more and to the average person on the street you
would still be considered 'ripped'. (There is a difference between
'lean' for competition and 'lean' for normal training times, IMO.)
I'm about the same height and at 210 (my current weight) don't really
look all that muscular. OTOH, I have large bone structure and compete in
weightlifting, not bodybuilding. I put on muscle very easily.
210 means little. Which was why I said it conveys little information
about Van Der's current condition.
--
Keith
Robert Schuh
I am curious why you take all of this when you have no intention to compete?
Robert Schuh
Why do you use all of this when you do not compete? I just don't understand
that.
Robert Schuh
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:53:13 -0700, Robert Schuh <rsc...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Keith,
> >I won a # of shows at 176 at 5'10" tall and was at my best at 198 on the day of
> >the show. Body weight means NOTHING. I have a very small bone structure, so I used
> >to look 20-30 lbs on stage than I actually was. No matter what people claim they
> >weigh etc., THE key is how they look standing on stage with the lights beating
> >down! :-)
>
> Indeed, you will NEVER know what kind of man you are until you have
> stripped down to your skimpiest string bikini, oiled yourself up and
> posed on a hot stage.
>
> --
> Is this thing on?
Who is this fucking troll?
Lee Michaels
"Robert Schuh" wrote
> Joe Humble wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:53:13 -0700, Robert Schuh <rsc...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Keith,
>> >I won a # of shows at 176 at 5'10" tall and was at my best at 198 on the
>> >day of
>> >the show. Body weight means NOTHING. I have a very small bone structure,
>> >so I used
>> >to look 20-30 lbs on stage than I actually was. No matter what people
>> >claim they
>> >weigh etc., THE key is how they look standing on stage with the lights
>> >beating
>> >down! :-)
>>
>> Indeed, you will NEVER know what kind of man you are until you have
>> stripped down to your skimpiest string bikini, oiled yourself up and
>> posed on a hot stage.
>>
>> --
>> Is this thing on?
>
> Who is this fucking troll?
>
>
Mike Lane
John Hanson
misc.fitness.weights:
>Dammm,, is quite a while since I don't check MFW... Nice to see some old
>Folks Like Rob are still around... Sad to know about Patrick Arnold..
>
>As for me, for those who remember me, I'm today weighting 210 lbs VERY Lean
>and hard...juicin non-stop since 2000, and very healty thank you very much.
>
>Roids RULZ!
>
>Van Der
>the "juice pig"
Why did you disappear in the first place? If I remember right, you
just dropped off the face of Usenet.
JMW
>
> Robert Schuh <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Keith,
>>I won a # of shows at 176 at 5'10" tall and was at my best at 198 on the day of
>>the show. Body weight means NOTHING. I have a very small bone structure, so I used
>>to look 20-30 lbs on stage than I actually was. No matter what people claim they
>>weigh etc., THE key is how they look standing on stage with the lights beating
>>down! :-)
>
>stripped down to your skimpiest string bikini, oiled yourself up and
>posed on a hot stage.
TheBillRodgers
>>Indeed, you will NEVER know what kind of man you are until you have
>>stripped down to your skimpiest string bikini, oiled yourself up and
>>posed on a hot stage.
No "man" would do that.
TheBillRodgers
wrote:
>It truly is bizarre that he does not want to get oiled up and pose in
>a string bikini...what the hell is wrong with him???
He's NOT gay?
Spammers_Should_Be_Shot
"John Hanson" <jha...@northernlinks.com> wrote in message
news:p3q0l11g9pgj3j4ln...@4ax.com...
In a fit of 'roid rage he destroyed his pc and had to get a new one.....
Lifter
Van Der wrote:
> I DON'T DO CYCLE, I alternate drugs and doses. I never go off... I don't
> beleive in such thing as Cycle. Or you ar in or not.. once you shut down
> your balls better stay inn...
What do you mean by this? ARE YOUR NUTS GONE???
Robert Schuh
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:10:48 -0700, Robert Schuh <rsc...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> At my height 5'7" (170cm) at this weight, I could compete in a amateur
> >> class with pretty good chances, I'm pretty happy with my look today.
> >
> >Why do you use all of this when you do not compete? I just don't understand
> >that.
>
> It truly is bizarre that he does not want to get oiled up and pose in
> a string bikini...what the hell is wrong with him???
>
> --
> Is this thing on?
I just LOVE how all the anonymous trolls are ALWAYS the biggest morons to post
here. It is painfully obvious that this guy is jealous as hell of bodybuilders
and is either about 115 lbs or morbidly obese. I suggest you get a life, cunt.
Robert Schuh
Makes sense. My god, this guy is THE most pathetic fuck to every post in Usenet.
Lane would have given his life to be able to look good enough to compete. Did
you ever see the nude photos he took of himself when he was taking as much juice
as Ronnie Coleman and still looked like shit? The funniest thing was how he
blacked out his tiny privates with a black magic marker.
Robert Schuh
Yes,
This was one of the many photos stalker boy took when he was taking as much juice as
Ronnie Coleman. He really thought he looked good. I can't believe he is still here using
fake names and posting the same lame drivel.
Robert Schuh
Dearest know nothing troll. If you had even the SLIGHTEST amount of knowledge,
you would know that "roid rage" is a bullshit term made up by the media. This
so called "condition," does not exist.
TheBillRodgers
wrote:
>> http://www.rustyiron.net/mikelane.jpg
P-U-N-K
TheBillRodgers
wrote:
>hahaha, I'm just glad he did us the favor of drawing in the undies!!
LOL! Yes, me too, but did you notice how TINY the undies are?
Apparently there wasn't much to hide...
JMW
>On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:20:31 -0700, Robert Schuh <rsc...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>JMW wrote:
>>
>>> Joe Humble <joeh...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Robert Schuh <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>Keith,
>>> >>I won a # of shows at 176 at 5'10" tall and was at my best at 198 on the day of
>>> >>the show. Body weight means NOTHING. I have a very small bone structure, so I used
>>> >>to look 20-30 lbs on stage than I actually was. No matter what people claim they
>>> >>weigh etc., THE key is how they look standing on stage with the lights beating
>>> >>down! :-)
>>> >
>>> >Indeed, you will NEVER know what kind of man you are until you have
>>> >stripped down to your skimpiest string bikini, oiled yourself up and
>>> >posed on a hot stage.
>>>
>>> http://www.rustyiron.net/mikelane.jpg
>>
>>Yes,
>>This was one of the many photos stalker boy took when he was taking as much juice as
>>Ronnie Coleman. He really thought he looked good. I can't believe he is still here using
>>fake names and posting the same lame drivel.
>
>hahaha, I'm just glad he did us the favor of drawing in the undies!!
Yeah, Mike, but some of us remember the later photos where you decided
to show off your peepee.
John
What's the Clomid theory?
Spammers_Should_Be_Shot
"Robert Schuh" <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4352C480...@yahoo.com...
> Spammers_Should_Be_Shot wrote:
>
> > "John Hanson" <jha...@northernlinks.com> wrote in message
> > news:p3q0l11g9pgj3j4ln...@4ax.com...
> > > On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:57:16 GMT, Van Der <rud...@rudnik.de> wrote in
> > > misc.fitness.weights:
> > >
> > > >Dammm,, is quite a while since I don't check MFW... Nice to see some
old
> > > >Folks Like Rob are still around... Sad to know about Patrick Arnold..
> > > >
> > > >As for me, for those who remember me, I'm today weighting 210 lbs
VERY
> > Lean
> > > >and hard...juicin non-stop since 2000, and very healty thank you very
> > much.
> > > >
> > > >Roids RULZ!
> > > >
> > > >Van Der
> > > >the "juice pig"
> > >
> > > Why did you disappear in the first place? If I remember right, you
> > > just dropped off the face of Usenet.
> >
> > In a fit of 'roid rage he destroyed his pc and had to get a new one.....
>
> Dearest know nothing troll. If you had even the SLIGHTEST amount of
knowledge,
> you would know that "roid rage" is a bullshit term made up by the media.
This
> so called "condition," does not exist.
>
I'd considering believing you but since you're experiencing the onslaught of
a "rage" I'll withhold judgment until you're off the juice.....
;- >
Robert Schuh
Why not address some facts? I also suggest you post your name.
Curt James
> Spammers_Should_Be_Shot wrote:
SNIP
> > I'd considering believing you but since
> > you're experiencing the onslaught of
> > a "rage" I'll withhold judgment until
> > you're off the juice.....
> >
> > ;- >
>
> Why not address some facts? I also suggest
> you post your name.
>
SNIP
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
Jeebus, Bobby, where's yer sense o' hyoomah?!
You: "GIVE ME JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF ROIDS DOING HARM OR CAUSING DEATH!
ROID RAGE IS A MYTH! YOU'RE ALL FUCKING MORONS! POST YOUR REAL NAMES!
AAAARRRRAAAHGHH!!!! FACTS, FACTS, FACTS!!! OOOOOOORGAHHH!!!!!"
8^D
Uh, this *is* my real name...
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Robert Schuh
I don't think I was addressing you before Curt. All I have ever done is
try to get the facts out there instead of the bullshit the media and
Congress wants everyone to think. Do you see a problem with that?
John
But preaching about juice in a weights forum does you no good.
Robert Schuh
What are you talking about? I suggest you go back into the Google archives.
MFW used to be THE place to come to learn about steroids and have discussions
by people like Dan Duchaine, Pat Arnold and many others who were WELL known
in the industry. Why do you think talking about steroids is not appropriate
for a weights newsgroup? Steroids are a HUGE part of the iron game. They
ALWAYS have been and ALWAYS will be. The fact that you know nothing about the
topic and don't even have the integrity to use your real full name just goes
to your lack or credibility. If you don't want to learn, then don't read.
I'll bet you a typical lemming who believes the media and Congress and think
that anabolic steroids are a real problem in today's society. Alcohol and
tobacco are 1 millions times more detrimental to society, but I am willing to
bet you have partaken in one or both at least once in your life, so don't be
a hypocrite.
Curt James
> I don't think I was addressing
> you before Curt.
Welcome to Usenet, Mr. Schuh.
> All I have ever done is try to
> get the facts out there instead
> of the bullshit the media and
> Congress wants everyone to think.
Then counter with those facts you'd prefer Joe Public hear rather than
an abrasive, confrontational harangue.
> Do you see a problem with that?
No, do you see a problem with my suggestion?
> Robert Schuh
And is /that/ your *REAL* name? ;-)
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Lascivious Mink
What do you think, Robert? Is he wrong? Anonymous with zero cred? Inexperienced?
JMW
Curt James wrote:
> Robert Schuh wrote:
>
> > I don't think I was addressing
> > you before Curt.
>
> Welcome to Usenet, Mr. Schuh.
>
> > All I have ever done is try to
> > get the facts out there instead
> > of the bullshit the media and
> > Congress wants everyone to think.
>
> Then counter with those facts you'd prefer Joe Public hear rather than
> an abrasive, confrontational harangue.
http://www.meso-rx.com/articles/williams/demonization-of-anabolic-steroids-01.htm
(http://tinyurl.com/8hfpx)
http://www.meso-rx.com/articles/williams/demonization-of-anabolic-steroids-02.htm
(http://tinyurl.com/dtc74)
Curt James
http://www.meso-rx.com/articles/williams/demonization-of-anabolic-steroids-01.htm
(http://tinyurl.com/8hfpx)
http://www.meso-rx.com/articles/williams/demonization-of-anabolic-steroids-02.htm
Preaching to the choir.
My point was that Schuh seemed just a bit overwrought and kept asking
for real names rather than offering anything intelligent to dispute the
anti-steroid crowd. Perhaps I missed his positive commentary.
Again, I have no quarrel with steroid users. Actually, I believe all
drugs should be legalized. Less spent on interdiction and incarceration
and more on education, rehabilitation, shelters, and safety programs.
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
John
Ok. Now I know you're retarded. Talking about 'juice' in a weights forum, is
like PREACHING TO THE CHOIR. Sheesh. I'm done with you. Have a nice day,
fucktard.
Robert Schuh
How about address the facts Mr. Troll? What a child.
Robert Schuh
> Robert Schuh wrote:
>
> > I don't think I was addressing
> > you before Curt.
>
> Welcome to Usenet, Mr. Schuh.
I really suggest you learn who you are talking to. You are just yet
another ill informed newbie to MFW. This newsgroup is a complete waste
now. You really should do a google search and find out how good this
newsgroup used to be.
>
>
> > All I have ever done is try to
> > get the facts out there instead
> > of the bullshit the media and
> > Congress wants everyone to think.
>
> Then counter with those facts you'd prefer Joe Public hear rather than
> an abrasive, confrontational harangue.
>
> > Do you see a problem with that?
>
> No, do you see a problem with my suggestion?
>
> > Robert Schuh
>
> And is /that/ your *REAL* name? ;-)
>
> --
> Curt
> http://curtjames.com/
Curt,
I would LOVE to know why you are so upset. I have never addressed you and
the burden of proof is not on me. The burden of proof is upon all the know
nothing trolls, media, Congress etc. who throw out unsubstantiated claims
and act like they are facts. How about giving me the name of ONE person
who has died or had end organ failure from using anabolic steroids? Do you
know how many people die every year from aspirin, Vit. D, potassium,
Ibuprofen etc.? The other thing that killed me about the hypocrisy of the
Congressional hearings is that even if they could come up with say 10
people who have died from using anabolic steroids, how many people die in
bicycle accidents every year? Why not ban them?
Robert Schuh
The names I have been asking for are those of the people whom have supposedly been
killed by anabolic steroids or suffered end organ failure. I also want people to put
their real name when they make commentary because if they don't, their credibility is
shit. I see that you are basically a Libertarian in your views, so you can't be that
crazy. :-)
WooferBearATL
Rob, you've been around long enough to know that this group has it's good
and bad moments. There are some good guys here and some with knowledge.
You just have to sort through the crap posted by folk that have never seen
the inside of a gym.
>
John
Curt James
> Curt James wrote:
> > Welcome to Usenet, Mr. Schuh.
>
> I really suggest you learn who you are talking to.
Woooh! Should I call you Sir?
> You are just yet another ill informed
> newbie to MFW. This newsgroup is a complete
> waste now. You really should do a google search
> and find out how good this newsgroup used to be.
And this would be you returning MFW to its former glory, yes? THOUGHT
SO! THANKS SO MUCH, BOBBY!
> > counter with those facts you'd prefer Joe
> > Public hear rather than an abrasive,
> > confrontational harangue.
> Curt,
> I would LOVE to know why you are so upset.
I'm not upset at all, Robert. I made an objective observation of your
behavior. Are you contradicting that?
>From my perspective or in my opinion, your posts have been abrasive and
confrontational. You've offered no content to contradict what you see
as an uninformed attack on anabolic steroids, yet you find it
reasonable to cry foul on those who believe they are dangerous.
> I have never addressed you
And?
It's Usenet, Bobby. I don't need a special invitation to comment on
your posts. Simply by merit of posting to Usenet, you've invited
comment on your opinion, words, requests. Or don't you get that?
(looks around for moderator)
Yeah.
> and the burden of proof is not on me. The burden
> of proof is upon all the know nothing trolls,
> media, Congress etc. who throw out unsubstantiated
> claims and act like they are facts.
Is your name Hussein?
>From the front page of tonight's Washington Post:
'I Don't Acknowledge This Court'
Guess what, Bobby...
Congress doesn't have to prove jack shit. They've got the law (however
incorrect it may be) on its side. So jam it or work to change it. You'd
do well to begin that work elsewhere if you haven't already. I suspect
you're content to cry about it (the current state of anabolics
standing) in a newsgroup you now consider a complete waste when
compared to its former heights of information exchange and
enlightenment.
> How about giving me the name of ONE person
> who has died or had end organ failure from
> using anabolic steroids? Do you know how many
> people die every year from aspirin, Vit. D,
> potassium, Ibuprofen etc.? The other thing
> that killed me about the hypocrisy of the
> Congressional hearings is that even if they
> could come up with say 10 people who have
> died from using anabolic steroids, how many
> people die in bicycle accidents every year?
Uh, say, I believe I'm the ill-informed newbie to MFW who stated
somethingsomething preaching to the choir. Remember me?
> Why not ban them?
Can we ban *you* instead?
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Curt James
> Curt James wrote:
> > Schuh seemed just a bit overwrought and
> > kept asking for real names rather than
> > offering anything intelligent to dispute
> > the anti-steroid crowd.
> >
> > Again, I have no quarrel with steroid
> > users. Actually, I believe all drugs
> > should be legalized. Less spent on interdiction
> > and incarceration and more on education,
> > rehabilitation, shelters, and safety programs.
>
> The names I have been asking for are those of the
> people whom have supposedly been killed by anabolic
> steroids
How do you define killed by anabolic steroids?
Search string /steroid, suicide result, teenager/ offers:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steroid%2C+suicide+result%2C+teenager&btnG=Google+Search
> or suffered end organ failure.
Regardless, I agree that the drugs are demonized. (Again, that they
*are*, not that they should be.)
> I also want people to put their real name when
> they make commentary because if they don't,
> their credibility is shit.
That sounds reasonable to me.
> I see that you are basically a Libertarian
> in your views, so you can't be that crazy. :-)
Don't bet on it. :-p
> Robert Schuh
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Spammers_Should_Be_Shot
"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129863844.7...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The funniest thing about Schuh..... his posts ALL read like "roid rage".
IMHO he's actually adding to what he's supposedly trying to combat (steroid
myths). I can't remember reading one of his posts that didn't read like he
was pissed off (and usually like a pissed off 7 year old). I also noticed
he "conveniently" ignores posts that don't agree with him and that he can't
discredit (notice Lascivious Mink's post including the link to
http://danjohn.org/page65.html went unresponded to? - Convenient huh!) His
typical response to anything he doesn't agree with is to call others idiots
and then play the "name" game.
Seriously Rob, here's some advice. I imagine you'll ignore it, after
calling me an idiot and commenting on the fact this post doesn't include my
real name (and this is NOT my real name). In the future try to temper your
posts with more facts (how about posting a list of steroid users who've
juiced for 10+ years and are completely healthy?) and less
ranting/bitching/name calling/etc. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say your
"work" here is misplaced, your time would be better spent working to change
the laws (or at least the minds of the lawmakers).
There Robert, I at least tried to start a civil discussion, now it's up to
you to either educate the readers about the facts, or just spew venom,
either way everyone can make their own decisions.
Spammers_Should_Be_Shot
(NOT my real name)
spodosaurus
> Robert Schuh wrote: (snipped here and there)
>
>>Curt James wrote:
>
>
>>>Schuh seemed just a bit overwrought and
>>>kept asking for real names rather than
>>>offering anything intelligent to dispute
>>>the anti-steroid crowd.
>>>
>>>Again, I have no quarrel with steroid
>>>users. Actually, I believe all drugs
>>>should be legalized. Less spent on interdiction
>>>and incarceration and more on education,
>>>rehabilitation, shelters, and safety programs.
>>
>>The names I have been asking for are those of the
>>people whom have supposedly been killed by anabolic
>>steroids
>
>
> How do you define killed by anabolic steroids?
>
> Search string /steroid, suicide result, teenager/ offers:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steroid%2C+suicide+result%2C+teenager&btnG=Google+Search
>
>
That's pretty crap. Teenagers who have serious enough self esteem and
depression issues that they're willing to turn to drugs are going to
find some way to self destruct. If it isn't steroids, it'll be alcohol
or other drugs. If the money spent on prosecuting people for
selling/buying steroids were spent on outreach programs to help these
kids you'd save a lot of lives. Teen suicide is preventable or at least
reduceable, but only with appropriate funding and support systems. If
you can refer these kids on to someone who can let them know that if
they want to stick needles in themselves they won't feel any better
about themselves, then you'll get them into the counselling they need
before they try and self medicate or use other extreme measures to try
and fix themselves rather than talking things out. If they choose to use
the steroids anyway, at least they'll have someone they can talk to
about the problems they're having that brought them to that point.
Someone that can get them help when they're too confused and emotionally
disoriented to realise how much danger they're in from depression. The
problems these teens have existed well before they ever thought about
steroids. By underfunding community mental health services we have let
these kids down. Steroids have been shown to make you feel good,
increasing scores on euphoria scales. The teens get a little relief from
depression when they start using the steroids, but it doesn't last, and
they spiral down further into depression and suicide.
Ari
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neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
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TheBill...@comcast.net
wrote:
>Woooh! Should I call you Sir?
Yeah give him a call Curt. It'll go something like this <heavy
breathing> a slap, slap, slap sound, and then "what are you
wearing..."
John
news:4358...@quokka.wn.com.au...
Or counsel the parents for not raising their kids right.
spodosaurus
Training all parents to be aware of signs of depression in their
children would be helpful. Helping parents together with their teens
learn ways that they can communicate better in times of trouble is
something that is barely even glossed over. Learning to use a system
where if either the parent or the child says a certain phrase then
everything else is set aside for a bit and what needs to be discussed is
discussed before going back to whatever routine was there before.
Parents who do everything right still lose children to suicide because
the children hide what they're going through out of fear and
desperation. Society has terrible stigmas against mental illness, but
not against diabetes. That needs to change, and it needs to change with
every person making a conscious decision to treat mental illness as a
medical problem, not a 'lifestyle choice'. The people who view it as the
latter disgust me beyond words.
Robert Schuh
Curt,
Please don't fall prey to the media and their bullshit. There was ZERO
medical evidence provided that this kid's use of anabolic steroids had
anything to do with him killing himself. I am sure he had many emotional
issues. Think about it, how is having a natural hormone in your body going
to make you off yourself? This case is as foolish as the Lyle Alzado fiasco.
Robert Schuh
Remember, no one cares about the ill informed commentary of someone who does
not have the integrity nor courage to put his name to his comments. Remember
troll, the burden of proof is not on me. The burden of proof is upon the people
who vilify anabolic steroids. I still have not seen the name is a SINGLE person
who has died from using them, so why are they so fucking horrible?
http://www.meso-rx.com/articles/williams/demonization-of-anabolic-steroids-01.htm
http://www.meso-rx.com/articles/williams/demonization-of-anabolic-steroids-02.htm
I also suggest you do a google search and learn about how this newsgroup used
to be inhabited by some of the best minds in the business. It now has nothing
but a bunch of lying and anonymous clowns. I suggest you butch up a bit and at
least TRY to learn something about this topic. I have forgotten more about it
than anyone you have ever met or read.
TheBill...@comcast.net
wrote:
>There was ZERO medical evidence provided
>that this kid's use of anabolic steroids had anything to do with him killing himself. I am sure
>he had many emotional issues.
As do 99% of the dorks here. I am the only exception.
Curt James
re
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steroid%2C+suicide+result%2C+teenager&btnG=Google+Search
> don't fall prey to the media and their
> bullshit. There was ZERO medical evidence
> provided that this kid's use of anabolic
> steroids had anything to do with him killing
> himself. I am sure he had many emotional
> issues.
Really? I thought you said (elsewhere) that you have forgotten more
about steroids than most will ever know. Hnh.
> Think about it,
Okay.
(places thinking cap firmly on scalp)
> how is having a natural hormone in your
> body going to make you off yourself?
No dangers in hormone imbalance, eh, Bobby? Double hnh.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=hormone+imbalance%2C+dangers&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=hormone+imbalance%2C+suicide&btnG=Search
And how about withdrawal side effects?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=withdrawal+side+effects%2C+suicide&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=steroids%2C+suicide&btnG=Search
Triple hnh!
> This case is as foolish as the Lyle Alzado fiasco.
I disagree with your comparision however I agree on Lyle's story being
a fiasco. Imo, I'd call Alzado a poster child for the benefit and
safety of steroids. He took them for twenty-plus years. That and HGH,
iirc. Then died from brain cancer which is off the radar so far as
steroid's bugaboos, right?
Regardless, you're something of a dick. Haven't they banned you yet?
"Dear Mr. Congressman..."
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Robert Schuh
I disagree with your comparision however I agree on Lyle's story being
a fiasco. Imo, I'd call Alzado a poster child for the benefit and
safety of steroids. He took them for twenty-plus years. That and HGH,
iirc. Then died from brain cancer which is off the radar so far as
steroid's bugaboos, right?
Curt James
> This just goes to show how naive you are.
That's nice. Here's another link:
http://www.unicahome.com/catalog/item.asp?id=475
Probably steroid withdrawal-induced.
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
spodosaurus
> Robert Schuh wrote: (snipped here and there)
>
> re
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steroid%2C+suicide+result%2C+teenager&btnG=Google+Search
>
Curt, google is hardly an authoritative source. Could you respond to my
prior reply to you in this thread, unless all you're doing is trolling
Robert. If that's what this is an exercise in, I'll let you two kids
have your privacy :P
Cheers,
David
"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> Curt James wrote:
>> Robert Schuh wrote: (snipped here and there)
>>
>> re
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steroid%2C+suicide+result%2C+teenager&btnG=Google+Search
>>
>
> Curt, google is hardly an authoritative source. Could you respond to my
> prior reply to you in this thread, unless all you're doing is trolling
> Robert. If that's what this is an exercise in, I'll let you two kids have
> your privacy :P
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ari
How any intelligent person could make a statement like "google is not an
authoritative source" is beyond belief. Google is not a 'source' - it is
the messenger of a variety of sources - you have to take the actual 'source'
on its merits
Curt James
re
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steroid%2C+suicide+result%2C+teenager&btnG=Google+Search
> Curt, google is hardly an authoritative
> source.
D'OH! Google is a bucket, Ari. It often /holds/ information that IS
authoritative, however, yes? That being the links to authoritative news
and information sources.
> Could you respond to my prior reply to you
> in this thread,
I'll look for your reply. Didn't realize I missed one.
> unless all you're doing is trolling
> Robert. If that's what this is an exercise
> in, I'll let you two kids have your privacy
> :P
What you may consider trolling, I consider communication. Yeah, perhaps
argumentative, but still...
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Curt James
> Curt James wrote:
Is this the one, Ari?
> > Robert Schuh wrote: (snipped here and there)
> >
> >>Curt James wrote:
> >>>Again, I have no quarrel with steroid
> >>>users. Actually, I believe all drugs
> >>>should be legalized. Less spent on interdiction
> >>>and incarceration and more on education,
> >>>rehabilitation, shelters, and safety programs.
> >>
> > How do you define killed by anabolic steroids?
> >
> > Search string /steroid, suicide result, teenager/ offers:
> >
> > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steroid%2C+suicide+result%2C+teenager&btnG=Google+Search
> That's pretty crap.
What does that statement represent? a) That the kid killed himself as a
result of going cold turkey with his steroids is a crap idea and that
steroids (or lack thereof) wasn't really the cause or b) that the kid
killed himself as a result of going cold turkey with his steroids is a
crap event and, yes, it's terrible that he wasn't weaned off the drugs
or provided with responsible counseling wrt getting off steroids? Or,
hey, I'm flexible, c) other?
> Teenagers who have serious enough self
> esteem and depression issues that they're
> willing to turn to drugs are going to find
> some way to self destruct. If it isn't steroids,
> it'll be alcohol or other drugs.
Again, what are you saying? That steroids should be excused because the
kid would've found some other excuse to off himself? How very lofty of
you. Getting jaded in your old age? Or did I misinterpret your words? I
could have easily. Communication is a tricky thing.
> If the money spent on prosecuting people for
> selling/buying steroids were spent on outreach
> programs to help these kids you'd save a lot of
> lives. Teen suicide is preventable or at least
> reduceable, but only with appropriate funding
> and support systems. If you can refer these kids
> on to someone who can let them know that if
> they want to stick needles in themselves they
> won't feel any better about themselves, then
> you'll get them into the counselling they need
> before they try and self medicate or use other
> extreme measures to try and fix themselves rather
> than talking things out.
Agreed here.
> If they choose to use the steroids anyway, at
> least they'll have someone they can talk to
> about the problems they're having that brought
> them to that point.
Well, I don't necessarily agree that taking steroids is a negative
exercise or that all kids-adults-people who take steroids are doing so
as a result of low self esteem, depression or other /issues/.
> Someone that can get them help when they're
> too confused and emotionally disoriented to
> realise how much danger they're in from
> depression. The problems these teens have
> existed well before they ever thought about
> steroids.
You're losing me. Suicide as a result of steroid withdrawal - possible
or not? What's your opinion? Or, hey, do YOU have an authoritative
source to reflect upon?
> By underfunding community mental health
> services we have let these kids down. Steroids
> have been shown to make you feel good, increasing
> scores on euphoria scales. The teens get a little
> relief from depression when they start using the
> steroids, but it doesn't last, and they spiral
> down further into depression and suicide.
I agree with you on underfunding of mental health services. Not sure
about the connection between correct or managed use of steroids and
depression, however. Paxil or other anti-depressants and a stack as a
preventative to that spiral you mentioned? I don't know. Do you?
It's a big world and I obviously don't have all the answers. I am wary,
however, of people like Schuh who seem to think they DO have all the
answers or have forgotten more than the next person about ANY subject.
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Curt James
I wrote re Lyle Alzado's steroid use:
> > He took them for twenty-plus years. That
> > and HGH, iirc. Then died from brain cancer
> > which is off the radar so far as steroid's
> > bugaboos, right?
>
> This just goes to show how naive you are. You
> sit around wasting time finding mindless Google
> links that show nothing,
Dear Dumb ASS,
Google has links to authoritative resources. The only /mindless/
associated with Google would be the likes of you, who, apparently, have
no ability to use it as a tool to find information. I didn't post any
links to *Bob's Paranoid Blog* or similar nonsense. I posted a general
link to a variety of on-topic links.
> then you just post more libel and innuendo about
> Lyle Alzado. Do some homework. Brain lymphoma can
> not be caused by anabolic steroids.
Which is what I meant by, "Then died from brain cancer which is off the
radar so far as steroid's bugaboos, right?"
Right?
I regret that that phrase was too much of a stretch for you. In the
context of my nominating Alzado for poster child for the benefit and
safety of steroids, you'd think you'd understand that that's I was
saying: Brain cancer is not one of the ills commonly associated with
steroid use. My bad, though. I'll try to be more direct with you from
now on.
> It is very common in people who are immuno
> suppressed.
Thank you, Mr. Wizard.
> Lyle had HIV. He made up the steroid story
> to hide his being bisexual. This has been
> well documented for YEARS, yet you frequent
> a newsgroup like this and still have no clue.
I have no clue, but, hey, as long as I've got wonderful people like you
in my life, who needs one?
> I really got a kick out of the "withdrawal"
> comments too. Ask any MD about how silly that
> is.
Why don't I ask you instead?
People ever have withdrawal symptoms from going off steroids cold
turkey? People ever freak out when their sleeves start flapping? Ever
hear, read, or see someone react adversely to no longer having access
to steroids? I mean, hell, you've forgotten more about steroids than
most people will ever KNOW, so why ask an MD? You're right here.
Enlighten me.
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
Spammers_Should_Be_Shot
LOL, I won the bet!!! Pay up people!!! I knew Robert would spout about his
"name fixation" and of course throw around some put-downs but avoid any
actually intelligent discourse.
Rob, once again you come across sounding angry. IMHO you make a piss poor
spokesperson but don't let that dissuade you, I'm sure lots of other people
read your posts the same way I do.
spodosaurus
Well then pick the one you think is appropriate to your argument from
the list. Playing 'guess which one' is fucktarded.
Curt James
>David wrote:
>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote
re
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steroid%2C+suicide+result%2C+teenager&btnG=Google+Search
>>>Curt, google is hardly an authoritative source.
>> How any intelligent person could make a statement like "google is not an
>> authoritative source" is beyond belief. Google is not a 'source' - it is
>> the messenger of a variety of sources - you have to take the actual 'source'
>> on its merits
Exactly.
>Well then pick the one you think is appropriate to your argument from
*You* pick one. My point was that there are sources, and it would
logicially follow examples, that point to steroid withdrawal and
suicide. I don't have to beat you over the head with specific cases
and there's no need for you to wonder. Only entertain the idea that
there's a possibility of such a thing taking place.
>the list. Playing 'guess which
Ever visit the library, Ari? Or do you sit out on the steps waiting
for the librarian to bring you the book you're looking for without
benefit of any knowledge of WHAT you're looking for? Ngh?
>one' is fucktarded.
I didn't ask anyone to play guess which one. That you need to be
spoon-fed might appear fucktarded to some.
HEY NOT ME THOUGH!
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
David
David
"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> David wrote:
>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>> news:435a...@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>
>>>Curt James wrote:
>>>
>>>>Robert Schuh wrote: (snipped here and there)
>>>>
>>>>re
>>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steroid%2C+suicide+result%2C+teenager&btnG=Google+Search
>>>>
>>>
>>>Curt, google is hardly an authoritative source. Could you respond to my
>>>prior reply to you in this thread, unless all you're doing is trolling
>>>Robert. If that's what this is an exercise in, I'll let you two kids have
>>>your privacy :P
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Ari
>>
>>
>> How any intelligent person could make a statement like "google is not an
>> authoritative source" is beyond belief. Google is not a 'source' - it is
>> the messenger of a variety of sources - you have to take the actual
>> 'source' on its merits
>
> Well then pick the one you think is appropriate to your argument from the
> list. Playing 'guess which one' is fucktarded.
>
(If it is at all possible Ari, could you please find a different word that
'fucktard'?)
David
Robert Schuh
Once again, when you do not have the integrity to put your name to your comments,
they are moot. I don't care about being a spokesperson. I care about telling the
truth. Anonymous cunts like you are the bane of Usenet.
spodosaurus
I'd like to. Not only is it old, but it's just becoming habitual, and I
don't like using vulgar terms habitually. I don't mind using vulgar
terms, but when a select few become repetitive then the whole thing
becomes banal. I do make an effort to refer to the behaviour rather than
the person, though. One or two behaviours do not reflect the sum total
of a human being. Every so often I slip, but rest assured when I do I'm
aware of it and feel bad about it.
Cheers,
Ari
spodosaurus
> spodosaurus wrote: (snipped here and there)
>
>>Curt James wrote:
>
>
> Is this the one, Ari?
Yes, thanks Curt. I'm afraid my pain levels (enough to put me flat on my
back for all but a couple of hours a day for the last several weeks -
and this is from a guy that walks around without pain medication on
shattered hips or with spinal fractures) are fairly out of control at
the moment, so I'm having to focus on work when I'm sitting here rather
than being able to reply with the appropriate effort that I think this
topic deserves. I will get to it as soon as I have enough energy and
have made a bit more progress on my latest (and last, for this semester)
paper.
Cheers,
Robert Schuh
>
> What you may consider trolling, I consider communication. Yeah, perhaps
> argumentative, but still...
>
> --
> Curt
> http://curtjames.com/
I am curious Curt, do you work out with weights and do you have any real interest in the topics
of this newsgroup? I with that Duchaine was still alive and Pat Arnold had the time to also show
you how fucking naive you are. The thing that I really don't get is your obsession with this when
you claim to be a Libertarian. I see that you are an "art" teacher. Being a professional Jazz
musician of over 25 years, one thing I know, people in the arts who have degrees 99% of the time
can not do what they went for their degree for. The old adage of "those who do, those who can't
teach," is also true 99% of the time. You try to come across as this pseudo hipster into tattoos
and piercings etc., but let's be honest, if you did ANYTHING on the edge, you would not be a
fucking kiddy teacher. As far as I am concerned, have fun coming up with obscure references for
your ludicrous ideas. The facts are that I have used and worked hand in hand with MDs and Ph.D.
biochemists for 20 years administering anabolic steroids to some of the top athletes in the world
and many people with basic replacement therapy. I know what is what. I have been there and done
it. Until you find someone who has the experience I have and disagrees with me, you are
hopelessly fucked. The only guy who still posts here that knows his shit is Will Brink and Will
will back me up vs you. I am curious if you even know who Dan Duchaine was.
Charles
wrote:
I too am dispirited at the tone of some of the conversations here, and
the profanity which is offered on a regular basis. Given that this is
the Sabbath, could we all make an effort to be a little more
circumspect in our choice of language.
It really isn't that fucking difficult.
I do hope you are all having a great weekend - I am! ;o)
Curt James
I scribbled:
> > Robert Schuh wrote:
<snip>
> >> This just goes to show how naive you are.
<snip>
> > Dear Dumb ASS,
> >
> > Google has links to<snip>
> >
> >> Lyle had HIV. He made up the steroid story
> >> to hide his being bisexual. This has been
> >> well documented for YEARS, yet you frequent
> >> a newsgroup like this and still have no clue.
> >
> > I have no clue, but, hey, as long as I've
> > got wonderful people like you in my life,
> > who needs one?
> >
> >> I really got a kick out of the "withdrawal"
> >> comments too. Ask any MD about how silly that
> >> is.
> >
> > Why don't I ask you instead?
> >
> > People ever have withdrawal symptoms from
<snip>
> > Enlighten me.
> >
> All of that is well and good. However WHAT IS
> YOUR *REAL* NAME??
John Howard. Bow down, mah fah, ~*BOW DOWN*~!
--
Cu, er, JOHN HOWARD
http://curtjames.com/
Damn! I meant http://www.pm.gov.au/
David
"Charles" <cha...@scp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qagml1lio6frjl4la...@4ax.com...
Ha ha! (I try not to ever circumsize the language due to the pain factor)
Good to see ya, Charles
David
> >
>>
>> What you may consider trolling, I consider communication. Yeah, perhaps
>> argumentative, but still...
>>
>> --
>> Curt
>> http://curtjames.com/
>
> I am curious Curt, do you work out with weights and do you have any real
> interest in the topics
> of this newsgroup? I with that Duchaine was still alive and Pat Arnold had
> the time to also show
> you how fucking naive you are. The thing that I really don't get is your
> obsession with this when
> you claim to be a Libertarian.
No Rob, you read it wrong - he said something about 'going to the library' -
that doesn't make him a librarian!
>I see that you are an "art" teacher. Being a professional Jazz
> musician of over 25 years, one thing I know, people in the arts who have
> degrees 99% of the time
> can not do what they went for their degree for. The old adage of "those
> who do, those who can't
> teach," is also true 99% of the time.
That's true - however if 'those who 'can't' didn't teach, then those who
'do' would not know how to do it. (confusing, I know)
>You try to come across as this pseudo hipster into tattoos
> and piercings etc., but let's be honest, if you did ANYTHING on the edge,
> you would not be a
> fucking kiddy teacher.
but kiddies grow up and if they were not taught proper as kiddies they would
not be clever later. (Best 3 years of my life was when I was in grade 7)
Curt James
> my pain levels (enough to put me flat on my
> back for all but a couple of hours a day for
> the last several weeks - and this is from a
> guy that walks around without pain medication
> on shattered hips or with spinal fractures)
> are fairly out of control at the moment
Out of control pain is one thing that I fear. Watched a movie some time
back titled... was it? Barbarians at the Gate? No. The Barbarian
Invasions <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338135/>.
Father and son dramedy. Father's cancer makes his pain unbearable. Son
with some cash and friends with connections arrange for the father to
have heroin <http://www.heroinhelper.com/> administered as it
(according to the film) is 800 percent more effective than morphine.
Crazy effective!
Anyway, best wishes for pain relief, Ari. Yeah, if there's anything
that's completely fucktarded, it's gotta be intolerable pain.
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
David
"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
I would like to fully endorse what you said above.
Curt James
> I am curious Curt, do you work out with
> weights and do you have any real interest
> in the topics of this newsgroup?
Do your homework. Check out Google groups. Then get back to me, 'kay?
> I with that Duchaine was still alive and
Lisp much? Yeah, yeah, typo. I wiSh *you'd* make sense. Is English your
native language? Hnh.
> Pat Arnold had the time to also show you
> how fucking naive you are.
Right. Thanks again, Mr. Sophisticated. If I have to make a choice,
I'll take naive over annoying, Bobby. Oh, hell, that's too much of a
stretch for you, I know.
Dumb-down time! ROBERT, YOU ARE ANNOYING!
There, that oughta do it.
> The thing that I really don't get is your
> obsession with this when you claim to be a
> Libertarian.
Back up, Bobby. You really are very annoying and, amazingly, have a
memory worse than mine. Pssst, YOU'RE the one who said I seem
Libertarian. But, hey, enjoy your post. Don't let me stop your exercise
in fiction writing.
> I see that you are an "art" teacher. Being
> a professional Jazz musician of over 25
> years, one thing I know, people in the arts
> who have degrees 99% of the time can not
> do what they went for their degree for.
> The old adage of "those who do, those who
> can't teach," is also true 99% of the time.
HA! Hey, catch up, I've already called you a dumb ass. What took you so
long to move from street level to the gutter? Try to keep up.
And guess what, Robert, my degree is in art and I have a certificate to
teach. Add those together and the answer is I'm getting paid to teach
art. Now kindly go suck on your clarinet. ;-)
> You try to come across as this pseudo
> hipster into tattoos and piercings etc.,
> but let's be honest, if you did ANYTHING
> on the edge, you would not be a fucking
> kiddy teacher.
Hipster? Did you just use the term... did you actually type the word
hipster and then proceed to call *ME* /non-edge/. Whooo! I'm adding
delusional and dated to my list of Robert Schuh characteristics.
But, hey, I'm a hipster-wannabe kiddy teacher, whadooiknow?
(I mean *besides* you are an ass, of course.)
> As far as I am concerned, have fun coming
> up with obscure references for your ludicrous
> ideas.
Cool. Your approval means so much.
> The facts are that I have used and worked
> hand in hand with MDs and Ph.D. biochemists
Again, English isn't your native language, is it?
You have *used* MDs and Ph.D. biochemists? Oh, you dirty boy, you!
You have worked hand in hand with these guys and YOU HAVE USED THEM!
What a back-stabbing bitch. ;-)
Anyway, maybe have one of those Ph.D. fellers rewrite your impressive
little toot-your-own-horn sentence there, pal, howzabout it?
> for 20 years administering anabolic steroids
> to some of the top athletes in the world and
> many people with basic replacement therapy.
Huzzah! Just tell me when to stop bowing because this arm waving is
rather tiresome! "WE'RE NOT WOOOORRRRTHY!!!!"
> I know what is what.
GRRRRR!!! YOU KNOW WHAT IS WHAT!
> I have been there and done it.
YOU HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE *IT!* Preach on, brutha!
Go, Robert, it's yo birfday! Go, go, go!
> Until you find someone who has the experience
> I have and disagrees with me, you are hopelessly
> fucked.
Jeebus, Bob. For someone so smart you sure are stupid.
I don't disagree with you. Don't you get it? I believe that steroids,
properly administered, are a good thing. That doesn't, however, negate
the fact that you're an incredible knob. An annoying prat. A
self-involved and supremely jerkish *jerk*.
So, I may just be hopelessly fucked, but I suspect you'll always be a
dick. How's that feel, Bobby?
> The only guy who still posts here that
> knows his shit is Will Brink and Will will
> back me up vs you.
So what? He's 5'6". HO!
Aww, I'm just kiddin'. Height's not everything. Say, how tall are YOU?
And...
WHAT'S YOUR ~*REAL*~ NAME!?!?
> I am curious if you even know who Dan
> Duchaine was.
Somethingsomething steroid guru who, despite that fact, was built
nothing at all like a bodybuilder. Died in prison, didn't he? Looked
kinda like John Kerry but with VERY bad hair. How'd I do?
Yeah, yeah, I know. You've scoured my Web site. But at least I have the
sense to shave my mange-looking follicles. Can you shave your keyboard?
Just carve the keys right off the thing. Save yourself some
embarrassment. (Note: If you don't post then you'll seem like less of a
fucktar... ooh, that word's just no longer in vogue. My bad!)
--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/
David
Let's ignore him until he posts some irrefutable proof. It's just not
right, you know, people not having the balls to post their real name.
Anonymous, cowardly trolls, that's what they are.
Curt James
> "Robert Schuh" <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote
> > I am curious Curt, do you <snip>
> but kiddies grow up and if they were not
> taught proper as kiddies they would not
> be clever later. (Best 3 years of my
> life was when I was in grade 7)
DAVID! YOU'RE IN MY WAY. I CAN'T GET TO THE PUNCHING BAG! PLEASE STEP
ASIDE.
Seriously, I don't deny that ol' Bobby knows *Everything On The Planet
That There Is To Know About Steroids FOREVER AND ALWAYS* but that makes
him no less boring and annoying. I mean, COME ON! This guy is in
desperate need of a personality transplant.
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Curt
http://curtjames.com/