I'm 14; How do I start bodybuilding?
sim
- I'm fourteen, and I want to start bodybuilding, or at least get my body in shape and built so that I could easily make the transition to training for competitions. How do I start? I do not want to stunt my growth or cause permanent muscle damage.
- Does anyone know of a exercise program for people my age (with things like home workouts, and exercises and number of reps at the gym), or websites dedicated to 'junior bodybuilding'.
- If anyone has any advice, workouts, or is willing to assist me over the net in starting (and maintaining an exercise program) it would be greatly appreciated.
- ~Jason
John
If you're as tall as you want to be now then you can go ahead. But
it's *supposed* to do something to the end of your bones and stop
you growing. I don't know how intense the workouts have to be to
cause damage.
Personally, at your age (so long ago...) I concentrated on eating
a lot and staying fit doing and whole load of things (until I did
my back in). I can't see the harm in doing basic body building...
(IMHO)
John
Pat Pimpdaddy Matteson
In article <32CF00...@geocities.com>, sim <un...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm fourteen, and I want to start bodybuilding, or at least get my
>body in shape and built so that I could easily make the transition to
>training for competitions. How do I start? I do not want to stunt my
>growth or cause permanent muscle damage.
> Does anyone know of a exercise program for people my age (with
>things like home workouts, and exercises and number of reps at the gym),
>or websites dedicated to 'junior bodybuilding'.
> If anyone has any advice, workouts, or is willing to assist me over
>the net in starting (and maintaining an exercise program) it would be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>~Jason
Ahh, a fellow teen bodybuilding competitor...
Okay, here's what you do:
First get some bodybuilding mags. The best one to get is Muscle & Fitness.
It shows all the training routines of the champion bodybuilders. Train like
them, and you will look like them. Do 20 sets per bodypart, and do plenty
of peaking and shaping isolation movements like concentration curls and pec
dek flyes. Go to the gym twice a day, six days a week, at two hours per
session. On top of that, you must also do your cardio. Do this four days a
week, sixty minutes a session at 75% of you maximum heart rate. Take Weider
supplements, because that's what the champs use. You must eat, sleep, live,
and breathe bodybuiling to be a success. Good luck!!! Who knows? We
might go head to head in competition someday.
p.s. I'm lying to you. Don't do this. It's a shame that young newies in
bodybuilding read magazines like Muscle & Fitness and get the wrong
impression about how to do things right in bodybuilding. Almost everything
in the mags are complete misinformation. Here in misc.fitness.weights will
you find the unbiased truth about what's up about anything at all with
bodybuilding.
For starters: Train 3-4 times a week. Keep the sessions short. Eat a lot
of food. Make it a policy to gain four pounds a week, NO MATTER WHAT. Do
basic, multijoint movements: squats, deadlifts, bent rows, chins, bench
presses, incline dumbbell presses, shoulder presses, close-grip bench
presses. The rest is up to you.
Pat Matteson
I'd better take my Betagen(tm) so I can be huge just like Chris!
Better Bodies Nutrition, Las Vegas, Nevada
(702) 435-1111
(702) 364-2634
(702) 871-2639
John
TrevorC...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
> On Sun, 05 Jan 1997 01:49:34 +0000, John <jona...@netcomuk.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> //snip
> >
> >If you're as tall as you want to be now then you can go ahead. But
> >it's *supposed* to do something to the end of your bones and stop
> >you growing.
>
>
Which bit a joke? The training at a young age being ok if you're prepared
to suffer of not reaching your full "bone-growth" potential (for want of
better words) or the fact that training before you have reached your full
height (etc) before training can/will/may cause this problem. There is a
name for it, which for the life of me I can't recall...
Bob Mann
John <jona...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
>Which bit a joke? The training at a young age being ok if you're prepared
>to suffer of not reaching your full "bone-growth" potential (for want of
>better words) or the fact that training before you have reached your full
>height (etc) before training can/will/may cause this problem. There is a
>name for it, which for the life of me I can't recall...
This is a myth.
The only way you will cause this to happen is by damaging the growth plate
by using weights which are much too heavy.
What are the chances you would damage all the growth plates?
You would see a lot more people walking around with one leg longer than the
other.
Lifting may even cause more growth by stimulating the release of growth
hormone and testosterone.
Bob Mann
This is my sig.
It has absolutely nothing to say.(Me)
TrevorC...@mindspring.com
//snip
>
>If you're as tall as you want to be now then you can go ahead. But
>it's *supposed* to do something to the end of your bones and stop
>you growing.
Thats a joke, right?
> I don't know how intense the workouts have to be to
>cause damage.
>
>Personally, at your age (so long ago...) I concentrated on eating
>a lot and staying fit doing and whole load of things (until I did
>my back in). I can't see the harm in doing basic body building...
>
>(IMHO)
>
>John
"I don't know man...I just got here myself"
-The Goose, Mad Max
TrevorC...@mindspring.com
On Sun, 05 Jan 1997 19:18:27 +0000, John <jona...@netcomuk.co.uk>
wrote:
>TrevorC...@mindspring.com wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 05 Jan 1997 01:49:34 +0000, John <jona...@netcomuk.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> //snip
>> >
>> >If you're as tall as you want to be now then you can go ahead. But
>> >it's *supposed* to do something to the end of your bones and stop
>> >you growing.
>>
>> Thats a joke, right?
>>
>
>Which bit a joke? The training at a young age being ok if you're prepared
>to suffer of not reaching your full "bone-growth" potential (for want of
>better words) or the fact that training before you have reached your full
>height (etc) before training can/will/may cause this problem. There is a
>name for it, which for the life of me I can't recall...
I always thought that lthe "lifting will stunt your growth" thing was
some outdated rumor. I would think it would stimulate bone-growth.
John
On Mon, 06 Jan 1997 20:57:29 GMT, TrevorC...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
>>> //snip
>>> >
>>> >If you're as tall as you want to be now then you can go ahead. But
>>> >it's *supposed* to do something to the end of your bones and stop
>>> >you growing.
>>>
>>> Thats a joke, right?
>>>
>>
>>Which bit a joke? The training at a young age being ok if you're prepared
>>to suffer of not reaching your full "bone-growth" potential (for want of
>>better words) or the fact that training before you have reached your full
>>height (etc) before training can/will/may cause this problem. There is a
>>name for it, which for the life of me I can't recall...
>
>I always thought that lthe "lifting will stunt your growth" thing was
>some outdated rumor. I would think it would stimulate bone-growth.
>
>"I don't know man...I just got here myself"
>-The Goose, Mad Max
Hmm, maybe I read it in Arnies Book of Bodybuilding. That
would explain it being outdated.
Right I'm off to practice my vacuum - suck in those stomachs now!
Lysis
Christopher L Connell
sim (un...@geocities.com) wrote:
=+ I'm fourteen, and I want to start bodybuilding, or at least get my
=+ body in shape and built so that I could easily make the transition to
=+ training for competitions. How do I start? I do not want to stunt my
=+ growth or cause permanent muscle damage.
=+ Does anyone know of a exercise program for people my age (with
=+ things like home workouts, and exercises and number of reps at the gym),
=+ or websites dedicated to 'junior bodybuilding'.
=+ If anyone has any advice, workouts, or is willing to assist me over
=+ the net in starting (and maintaining an exercise program) it would be
=+ greatly appreciated.
=+ ~Jason
Junior BB, nonsense! You wanna be big, you gotta lift, eat, and sleep
like a big boy!!!!
Jason, eat several well balanced meals everyday. Include foods
high in protein like turkey, chicken, steak, lentils, beans, etc.
Try to eat leaner cuts of meat if possible. Then again, you eating
fat right now is not an issue. You need to grow; your body also needs
fat; You can always diet fat away; Anyhow your metabolism is most
likely high enough that thats not an issue. Lift no more
than 3-4 x a week. In this game LESS IS MORE. You DO NOT GROW
in teh gym while you lift. You grow when you rest and eat outside
the gym. Use a multi-vitamin along w/ your meals. Make sure and try
to get 8 hours of sleep every night. Its okay to sleep as yourt
body needs to recover. Do not use recreational drugs. They will
only hust your progress in the gym. Supplements are not necessary
for you to acheive wonders as your body is flooded w. natural
testosterone in your growing years. Stick to compund movements
like squats, deadlifts, bench press, back rows, chin-ups, etc.
Using the pec deck machine is not necessary. Do aerobics (light)
a couple of times a week to keep your heart healthy. Lift big,
Eat big, Sleep big. If your girlfriend gets in the way of your
lifting, lift her for an additional deadlift exercise. Do not
overtrain. Do not use drugs of any sort. Keep a training
log which denotes exercise, reps, sets, and weight. Look for
constant but slow improvement over a finite period of time. Evaluate
your progress at reasonable intervals (2-3 months, etc.). Do
not expect to get big over night. It will take many many years.
Do not even think about the word steroids. They are not for you
at this time and potentially ever. Teenagers should in general
not use steroids.
Good luck kiddo!
Keep us posted on that progress (400+ lb bench presses, etc.)
--
CLC
D/FW ASSAULT CREW
"Okay, Okay, I know; My spelling sucks."
John Hanson
On 6 Jan 1997 23:56:54 GMT, ccon...@utdallas.edu (Christopher L
Connell) wrote:
Please pardon my ignorance, but isn't it also important for a
youngster not to lift too heavy a weight?. Something to do with
immature bone structures , i.e. they contain more cartilage than an
adult's, that are more succeptible <sp??> stress fractures.
I seem to recall a high incidence of injury to teens from showing off
and competing in 1 rep maxes.
John
Bill Roberts
On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, John Hanson wrote:
> On 6 Jan 1997 23:56:54 GMT, ccon...@utdallas.edu (Christopher L
> Connell) wrote:
>
> >sim (un...@geocities.com) wrote:
> >
> >
> >=+ I'm fourteen, and I want to start bodybuilding, or at least get my
> >=+ body in shape and built so that I could easily make the transition to
> >=+ training for competitions. How do I start? I do not want to stunt my
> >=+ growth or cause permanent muscle damage.
> >
> >Junior BB, nonsense! You wanna be big, you gotta lift, eat, and sleep
> >like a big boy!!!!
[snipped: a lot of generally good advice, IMO (Bill)]
> >Good luck kiddo!
> >Keep us posted on that progress (400+ lb bench presses, etc.)
> >--
> >
> >CLC
> >D/FW ASSAULT CREW
> Please pardon my ignorance, but isn't it also important for a
> youngster not to lift too heavy a weight?. Something to do with
> immature bone structures , i.e. they contain more cartilage than an
> adult's, that are more succeptible <sp??> stress fractures.
>
> I seem to recall a high incidence of injury to teens from showing off
> and competing in 1 rep maxes.
>
> John
You are right, John, and I forgot that in my earlier response to this.
Yes, the ends of the bones (epiphyseal plates) are still growing in
teenagers and therefore heavy lifting, or a great deal of lifting, is
ill advised.
So caution is necessary.
It's not well studied just how younger teenagers ought to train, but
certainly neither the volume of work nor the weights should be excessive.
(Duh.)
Maybe a good guideline is to keep the exercises to the point where lifting
is enjoyable, and not perceived as being very hard work. Concentrate on
great form and higher rep ranges (maybe 10-12 upperbody, and 20 or so for
squats.)
But I'm no expert on this -- I think no one is.
-- Bill
Adam Fahy
John Hanson wrote:
> Please pardon my ignorance, but isn't it also important for a
> youngster not to lift too heavy a weight?. Something to do with
> immature bone structures , i.e. they contain more cartilage than an
> adult's, that are more succeptible <sp??> stress fractures.
>
This is a commonly mentioned myth about teen weight lifting.
> I seem to recall a high incidence of injury to teens from showing off
> and competing in 1 rep maxes.
This says one important thing - don't show off and hurt yourself
competing in one rep max tries.
=]
-Adam
Jason Burnell
John Hanson wrote:
> >
> Please pardon my ignorance, but isn't it also important for a
> youngster not to lift too heavy a weight?. Something to do with
> immature bone structures , i.e. they contain more cartilage than an
> adult's, that are more succeptible <sp??> stress fractures.
>
> I seem to recall a high incidence of injury to teens from showing off
> and competing in 1 rep maxes.
>
> John
There is a big difference between a structured strength program and
trainig like an idiot. As far as bones etc, if he's got "pubes" hes old
enough.
--
Jason Burnell - http://www.earthlink.net/~deepsquatter/
D/FW ASSAULT CREW - West Coast Chapter
Oakland Raider Fan - WIN or LOSE- STILL TALKING SMACK
"Just Win, Maybe"
Sandeep De
On Sat, 04 Jan 1997 18:12:47 -0700, sim <un...@geocities.com> wrote:
> I'm fourteen, and I want to start bodybuilding, or at least get my
>body in shape and built so that I could easily make the transition to
>training for competitions. How do I start? I do not want to stunt my
>growth or cause permanent muscle damage.
> Does anyone know of a exercise program for people my age (with
>things like home workouts, and exercises and number of reps at the gym),
>or websites dedicated to 'junior bodybuilding'.
> If anyone has any advice, workouts, or is willing to assist me over
>the net in starting (and maintaining an exercise program) it would be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>~Jason
>
>
Weights won't stunt your growth. The notion that weight training will
stunt a developing teenagers skeletal growth stemmed from an arcane
and poorly conducted study a long time ago that showed that "children
who lifted cumbersome loads decreased skeletal growth". What the study
actually focused on were kids who were doing hard labor as children
(under 12) lifting heavy things for jobs in mining, construction,
etc...
If anything, weight training will augment your rate of growth. Number
1, you're going to grow as tall as your genetics will let you. If your
parents are 4 feet tall don't expect to hit 6'9". Secondly, weight
training naturally increases your body's production of testosterone
and growth hormone. These are two of the chemical hormones which
during puberty are responsible for the rapid bone growth and weight
gains that kids encounter. Be forewarned however that taking anabolic
steroids at this point in your development is a sure fire way to make
sure you never achieve your true height. Anabolic steroids flood the
system with excess testosterone and convince the epiphyseal plates
(parts of your bones that grow) that they can stop now. As a result,
you shut off your bone growth in favor of bigger muscles. Better to
gain mass naturally.
Case in point: I'm 16 years old (turning 17 in two weeks) and have
been weight training since the age of 13. I actually grew 6 inches in
height my first year of weight training. Pay attention to the form of
exercise, and I wouldn't personally reccomend any kind of overhead
pressing exercises where stress is placed on your lower back. Don't
avoid squats - I have done them religiously throughout my life. When I
first started training, I was around 5'1". I'm now 5'11" (my parents
are 5'5" and 5'6" respectively). So weight training can't stunt your
growth.
I would be happy to help you out with your training and nutrition. I
have a web page up that includes extensive information on training,
nutrition, supplementation and other aspects of training. The link is
below my sig. Check it out and send me email if you've got questions.
Sandeep De
The Power Factory
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4039/mainpage.htm
Mr Duplicity
On Sat, 04 Jan 1997 18:12:47 -0700, sim <un...@geocities.com> wrote:
> I'm fourteen, and I want to start bodybuilding, or at least get my
>body in shape and built so that I could easily make the transition to
>training for competitions. How do I start? I do not want to stunt my
>growth or cause permanent muscle damage.
> Does anyone know of a exercise program for people my age (with
>things like home workouts, and exercises and number of reps at the gym),
>or websites dedicated to 'junior bodybuilding'.
> If anyone has any advice, workouts, or is willing to assist me over
>the net in starting (and maintaining an exercise program) it would be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>~Jason
Well youre taking the right first step in that youre trying to educate
yourself before making a decision. Study all that you can get your
hands on on the subjetc but be prepared to sift through it because
much of it will be either contradictory or totall bullshit.
Bottom line will always be Lift HEAVY....short but intense
workouts....eat ALOT.....sleep ALOT.....dont abuse you body in other
ways(drugs etc) because it is already working hard to repair itself
from those workouts. Dont overtrain. I seriously doubt that the old
wives tale about working out stunting growth has anyvalidity becasue i
started when i was 14 also. At that age you have so much endogenous
testosterone you can make some great gains!!!The things it did was
give me a head start and do something else that athletes later in life
sometimes try to do but cant......
At that age not all bonestructures in your body are totally solidified
so they can me altered before they do solidify.... so I inadvertantly
was able to spread and broaden my ribcage considerably more that is
usual. Some athletes attempt this later in life with certain
excersises but the ribcage is just to solid by then and will never
spread out.
Oh a word of caution.....if you lift....dont neglect any
bodyparts...if you get a big headstart on one body part and not
another, it will be years before they can catch up (it happened to me
at least)
Brad Smith
D/FW Assault Crew
"Very funny Scottie.......now beam down my clothes!!"
http://www.cyberramp.net/~bsmith
Guido The Sicilian Land Shark
bsm...@cyberramp.net (Mr Duplicity) wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jan 1997 18:12:47 -0700, sim <un...@geocities.com> wrote:
> I'm fourteen, and I want to start bodybuilding, or at least get my
>body in shape and built so that I could easily make the transition to
>training for competitions. How do I start? I do not want to stunt my
>growth or cause permanent muscle damage.
> Does anyone know of a exercise program for people my age (with
>things like home workouts, and exercises and number of reps at the gym),
>or websites dedicated to 'junior bodybuilding'.
> If anyone has any advice, workouts, or is willing to assist me over
>the net in starting (and maintaining an exercise program) it would be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>~Jason
Well youre taking the right first step in that youre trying to educate
yourself before making a decision. Study all that you can get your
hands on on the subjetc but be prepared to sift through it because
much of it will be either contradictory or totall bullshit.
>>He's right, in essence don't use any of the so called 'Pro' workouts you see in most bb mags. What happens is the mag.
>>assigns a writer to write the article, this moolie then lists a bunch of excercises, throws in some outrageous, arbatrary weight,
>>and attributes it to one pro or the other. They then put it into the mag with a pic of said pro performing one or two of the
>>listed excercises. That my young friend is a quick route to gross overtraining.
Oh a word of caution.....if you lift....dont neglect any
bodyparts...if you get a big headstart on one body part and not
another, it will be years before they can catch up (it happened to me
at least)
>>Thats right, I've seen a lot of people who are basically walking talking light bulbs. They work the hell out of their upper bodies
>>and at the best pay token service to their lower body. I understand one of the unspoken reasons that guys take up body building
>>its the same reason I took up guitar; to get laid. There's no shame in admitting that. The point is, work everything; not just
>>the 'vanity muscles' (Chest, arms)
>>Of course thats just my opinion, what do I know, I still think wrestling is real.
>>Ciao
>>Guido
HChar83183
The earlier you start the better. 14 or 15 is perfect. At this point in
your life your body is raging with testosterone. By lifting weights you
can get that test. to stimulate muscle growth. I find that guys who
lifted while they were teens (high school football players and wrestlers
etc) tend to be stronger and tend to be able to maintain muscle mass and
strength even when dieting or when not training hard (when they are
older).
"Conan, what is best in life?"
"Kill your enemy, see him driven before you, and hear the lamentation of his womenfolk." ---Arnold Schwartzennegger, Conan the Barbarian
Sandeep De
>TrevorC...@mindspring.com wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 05 Jan 1997 01:49:34 +0000, John <jona...@netcomuk.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> //snip
>> >
>> >If you're as tall as you want to be now then you can go ahead. But
>> >it's *supposed* to do something to the end of your bones and stop
>> >you growing.
>>
>> Thats a joke, right?
>>
>
>Which bit a joke? The training at a young age being ok if you're prepared
>to suffer of not reaching your full "bone-growth" potential (for want of
>better words) or the fact that training before you have reached your full
>height (etc) before training can/will/may cause this problem. There is a
>name for it, which for the life of me I can't recall...
I'm sorry guy, but you're totally wrong.
If anything the natural growth hormone and testosterone release from
weight training accelerates the attainment of your genetic height
potential. I have been lifting heavy and hard from age 13 and grew 6
inches in my first year. I'm 5'11" now, and my parents are around 5'4"
and 5'5"...properly conducted weight training (i.e. not lifting
maximal weights [less than 2 reps], proper form, avoiding overhead
pressing exercises) does not harm the epiphyseal plates (the parts of
the bones that grow) in any way or form.
It's the use of anabolic steroids and synthetic testosterone at this
age that causes the stunting of growth. The excess testosterone
convinces the epiphyseal plates that the genetic potential has been
reached and consequently they shut off growth.
Look at any injury report for children and teenagers. The vast
majority of bone injuries (i.e. epiphyseal plate damage) comes from
baseball, volleyball, basketball and football. Way down the list -
behind inline skating and curling - is weight training.
T. David Bamford
John <jona...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
>TrevorC...@mindspring.com wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 05 Jan 1997 01:49:34 +0000, John <jona...@netcomuk.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> //snip
>> >
>> >If you're as tall as you want to be now then you can go ahead. But
>> >it's *supposed* to do something to the end of your bones and stop
>> >you growing.
>>
>> Thats a joke, right?
>>
>Which bit a joke? The training at a young age being ok if you're prepared
>to suffer of not reaching your full "bone-growth" potential (for want of
>better words) or the fact that training before you have reached your full
>height (etc) before training can/will/may cause this problem. There is a
>name for it, which for the life of me I can't recall...
Here, let me help. The technical term is "bullshit".
Don't mention it.
T. David Bamford
DParr64103
Dear Sir,
I'm thirteen, and want to know a good basic weight lifting program to
start out on. I have a barbell and a five and ten pound dumbell.
Your Name Here
In article <19970118171...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, dparr...@aol.com says...
>
>Dear Sir,
> I'm thirteen, and want to know a good basic weight lifting program to
>start out on. I have a barbell and a five and ten pound dumbell.
Go to the public library and get some books on basic bodybuilding. At your
age, almost anything you do will last you the rest of your life.
Pat Pimpdaddy Matteson
In article <19970118171...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
dparr...@aol.com (DParr64103) wrote:
>
> Dear Sir,
> I'm thirteen, and want to know a good basic weight lifting program to
> start out on. I have a barbell and a five and ten pound dumbell.
Okay, now how much weight do have to go with your barbell?
Let me take that back. You don't seem to have much equipment. Ask your
dad to see if he can try to get you to join a gym. That's a great place
to start. After you get past this point, post again for specifics, and
we'll be here to help
you.
Pat Matteson
"... The sun has gone down and the moon has come up,
And long ago somebody left with the cup.
But he's driving and striving and hugging the turns
And thinking of someone for whom he still burns.
Because he's going the distance.
He's going for speed..."
--Cake
Better Bodies Nutrition, Las Vegas, Nevada
(702) 435-1111
(702) 364-2634
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Robert Ames
> I'm thirteen, and want to know a good basic weight lifting program to
>start out on. I have a barbell and a five and ten pound dumbell.
If you are working out without supervision, I'd recommend body weight
type exercises for another year. This means pushups, chins, and other
exercises that can be done without added weight. However, there is no
harm in reading about weight lifting. A good book to begin with is
"Getting Stronger" by Bill Pearl. If you can't get it through your
library, try writing to:
Ironman
1701 Ives Avenue
Oxnard, CA 93033
There is a teen weightlifting Web site at http://members.tripod.com/~Ares2/
which may be helpful.
kgrov...@aol.com
Why hasn't anyone told the dude that he can at least start off with
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