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AL_n
May 19, 2012, 5:01:01 PM5/19/12
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I've been researching the targeted ketogenic diet and the so-called carb
cycling concept. To me, they both seem similar. In fact one could almost
call the TKD a carb cycling diet, couldn't one?
Can anyone recommend an online dietary guru (or whatever), who is truly
knowledgeable on both concepts, and knows how well they actually work, in
practice (for cutting fat while building/maintaining muscle)?
Thanks..
Al
cycling concept. To me, they both seem similar. In fact one could almost
call the TKD a carb cycling diet, couldn't one?
Can anyone recommend an online dietary guru (or whatever), who is truly
knowledgeable on both concepts, and knows how well they actually work, in
practice (for cutting fat while building/maintaining muscle)?
Thanks..
Al
ATP
May 19, 2012, 6:26:18 PM5/19/12
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lyle mcdonald
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/
"AL_n" <fgdf...@fghfghfg.com> wrote in message
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http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/
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AL_n
May 21, 2012, 5:18:41 AM5/21/12
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"ATP" <walter...@unforgiven.com> wrote in news:4fb81e0e$0$23235
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> lyle mcdonald
> http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/
Thanks.. It's good to know that he's still considered the main man of the
keto diet for bodybuilders after so long. I purchased his Ketogenic Diet
book back around yr 2000.
He doesn't seem to have written anything on 'carb cycling' though. Perhaps
that's because it's not exactly a ketogenic diet.
Who is considered a leading online 'carb cycling' expert?
Has anyone read Tony Perrone's "Bodyfat Breakthru" book? I found that a
very interesting read, and almost gave the 30/50/20 plan a try, until I
realised how expensive it was going to be, to consume my allocated 292g of
protein every day!
Al
$607e...@cv.net:
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> lyle mcdonald
> http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/
Thanks.. It's good to know that he's still considered the main man of the
keto diet for bodybuilders after so long. I purchased his Ketogenic Diet
book back around yr 2000.
He doesn't seem to have written anything on 'carb cycling' though. Perhaps
that's because it's not exactly a ketogenic diet.
Who is considered a leading online 'carb cycling' expert?
Has anyone read Tony Perrone's "Bodyfat Breakthru" book? I found that a
very interesting read, and almost gave the 30/50/20 plan a try, until I
realised how expensive it was going to be, to consume my allocated 292g of
protein every day!
Al
ATP
May 21, 2012, 9:03:33 PM5/21/12
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cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD). A CKD refers to any diet which alternates
periods of low-carbohydrate (or ketogenic eating) with periods of
high-carbohydrate eating. Diets such as DiPasquale's Anabolic Diet and
Metabolic Diet, Dan's Bodyopus, and Faigan's NHE are all examples of CKD's.
My own Ultimate Diet 2.0, of course, represents the pinnacle of cyclical
diets of this sort.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ultimate-diet-20
> "ATP" <walter...@unforgiven.com> wrote in news:4fb81e0e$0$23235
> $607e...@cv.net:
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>>
>> lyle mcdonald
>> http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/
>
> Thanks.. It's good to know that he's still considered the main man of the
> keto diet for bodybuilders after so long. I purchased his Ketogenic Diet
> book back around yr 2000.
>
> He doesn't seem to have written anything on 'carb cycling' though. Perhaps
> that's because it's not exactly a ketogenic diet.
>
The second solution, and the one I suspect most readers are aware of is the
> $607e...@cv.net:
>
>>
>> lyle mcdonald
>> http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/
>
> Thanks.. It's good to know that he's still considered the main man of the
> keto diet for bodybuilders after so long. I purchased his Ketogenic Diet
> book back around yr 2000.
>
> He doesn't seem to have written anything on 'carb cycling' though. Perhaps
> that's because it's not exactly a ketogenic diet.
>
cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD). A CKD refers to any diet which alternates
periods of low-carbohydrate (or ketogenic eating) with periods of
high-carbohydrate eating. Diets such as DiPasquale's Anabolic Diet and
Metabolic Diet, Dan's Bodyopus, and Faigan's NHE are all examples of CKD's.
My own Ultimate Diet 2.0, of course, represents the pinnacle of cyclical
diets of this sort.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ultimate-diet-20
AL_n
May 22, 2012, 4:02:49 PM5/22/12
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"ATP" <walter...@unforgiven.com> wrote in
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> The second solution, and the one I suspect most readers are aware of
> is the cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD).
I didn't realise I was speaking to the man himself. :) Thanks for
pointing me to your site; there are some excellent resources there.
I tried the CKD approach a couple of times, several years ago, but I felt
that my metabolism slowed down too much, and the last couple of workouts
of the week tended to be pretty grim experiences. I've just started doing
the TKD approach, and I like it much better. I enjoy life more probably
because I can get some extra nutrients during the week (e.g., from fruit,
etc., prior to each workout). This time, I'm carefully counting my
calories. Omitting to do that was where I went wrong in the past. I am
also taking care to drink more water which is the other thing I neglected
in the past.
One reason I love ketogenic diets (apart from finding them easy to stick
to) is that I feel wonderful when in ketosis. It's the only time that I
feel 100% "right" with a nice feeling of inner calm. I'm a vegetarian, so
my protein sources are whey, soya, eggs, fish. Main oil consumed: cod
liver oil (in shakes) and olive oil (in home-made mayo). I'm thinking of
quitting the mayo, however, because it's just too calorific. I mean, a
typical meal for me, is a can of tuna chunks with a rounded dessert spoon
of mayo (made from eggs and olive oil). I just found out there is way
more calories in that portion of mayo than there is in the tuna... I'm
switching to a low-calorie dressing that will still provide a suitable
level of 'lubrication' so to speak.
I also got a shock today when I learend how many calories there are in a
couple of smoked mackerell (my favourite food at the moemnt)! I'm sure
that's because of all the oil they contain. So, what I'd like to find is
a low-cost tasty fish that has more oil than tuna, but less than smoked
mackerell!
Al
news:4fbae5e8$0$14791$607e...@cv.net:
> The second solution, and the one I suspect most readers are aware of
> is the cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD).
pointing me to your site; there are some excellent resources there.
I tried the CKD approach a couple of times, several years ago, but I felt
that my metabolism slowed down too much, and the last couple of workouts
of the week tended to be pretty grim experiences. I've just started doing
the TKD approach, and I like it much better. I enjoy life more probably
because I can get some extra nutrients during the week (e.g., from fruit,
etc., prior to each workout). This time, I'm carefully counting my
calories. Omitting to do that was where I went wrong in the past. I am
also taking care to drink more water which is the other thing I neglected
in the past.
One reason I love ketogenic diets (apart from finding them easy to stick
to) is that I feel wonderful when in ketosis. It's the only time that I
feel 100% "right" with a nice feeling of inner calm. I'm a vegetarian, so
my protein sources are whey, soya, eggs, fish. Main oil consumed: cod
liver oil (in shakes) and olive oil (in home-made mayo). I'm thinking of
quitting the mayo, however, because it's just too calorific. I mean, a
typical meal for me, is a can of tuna chunks with a rounded dessert spoon
of mayo (made from eggs and olive oil). I just found out there is way
more calories in that portion of mayo than there is in the tuna... I'm
switching to a low-calorie dressing that will still provide a suitable
level of 'lubrication' so to speak.
I also got a shock today when I learend how many calories there are in a
couple of smoked mackerell (my favourite food at the moemnt)! I'm sure
that's because of all the oil they contain. So, what I'd like to find is
a low-cost tasty fish that has more oil than tuna, but less than smoked
mackerell!
Al
ATP
May 22, 2012, 4:42:30 PM5/22/12
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You're not, I was just cutting and pasting. Lyle hasn't been here in a
while. I don't feel good personally on a ketogenic or low carb diet,
definitely not calm. As far as the fish, I think the oil is good for you. I
like wild salmon, and the frozen burgers from Costco are the easiest to
prepare.
while. I don't feel good personally on a ketogenic or low carb diet,
definitely not calm. As far as the fish, I think the oil is good for you. I
like wild salmon, and the frozen burgers from Costco are the easiest to
prepare.
AL_n
May 22, 2012, 6:07:30 PM5/22/12
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"ATP" <walter...@unforgiven.com> wrote in
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> You're not, I was just cutting and pasting. Lyle hasn't been here in a
> while.
Oh, okay - no worries.
> I don't feel good personally on a ketogenic or low carb diet,
> definitely not calm. As far as the fish, I think the oil is good for
> you. I like wild salmon, and the frozen burgers from Costco are the
> easiest to prepare.
Yes, fish oil is good for you, but too much of it does whack the caolorie-
count up, big time. Mackerell seems to be the all-out oil mogul of the fish
world. I think I'll look into smoked haddock...
Al
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> You're not, I was just cutting and pasting. Lyle hasn't been here in a
> while.
> I don't feel good personally on a ketogenic or low carb diet,
> definitely not calm. As far as the fish, I think the oil is good for
> you. I like wild salmon, and the frozen burgers from Costco are the
> easiest to prepare.
count up, big time. Mackerell seems to be the all-out oil mogul of the fish
world. I think I'll look into smoked haddock...
Al
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