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Par Deus

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Dec 7, 2001, 9:00:04 PM12/7/01
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Big Mf'r Issue #4 is now up.

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ParDeus


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Dec 7, 2001, 10:39:53 PM12/7/01
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 02:00:04 GMT, Par Deus <par...@avantlabs.com>
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>Big Mf'r Issue #4 is now up.

You mentioned in Pimpology that you doubled your workout volume whilst
on "One" - that put you a how many workouts a week? I know in the past
you've favored shorter, more frequent workouts.

I'm never drinking again BTW. Good scare article. :-)


Scott Johnson
"I made the best gains of my life when I dumped
the "oh me so tired" crap and started getting on
with it for real." -Bryce Lane

Par Deus

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Dec 7, 2001, 11:27:40 PM12/7/01
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>
>You mentioned in Pimpology that you doubled your workout volume whilst
>on "One" - that put you a how many workouts a week? I know in the past
>you've favored shorter, more frequent workouts.

I probably did 11-12 workouts of 35-45 minutes.

Normally do 5-6 of 30-45 -- I used to sometimes do 10-12 of 20 minutes
or so back when I was a trainer and always at the gym.

>
>I'm never drinking again BTW. Good scare article. :-)


I'm drinking a 40 as we speak.

ParDeus
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Dec 8, 2001, 7:56:43 AM12/8/01
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 04:27:40 GMT, Par Deus <par...@avantlabs.com>
wrote:

>I probably did 11-12 workouts of 35-45 minutes.

I'm guessing you don't go to failure and they're not full body
workouts - what % of your 1RM are you using?

>Normally do 5-6 of 30-45 -- I used to sometimes do 10-12 of 20 minutes
>or so back when I was a trainer and always at the gym.

Thanks.

>I'm drinking a 40 as we speak.

:-)

For about the same caloric intake I'll take a pint of Chubby Hubby.

Par Deus

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Dec 8, 2001, 9:42:58 AM12/8/01
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 12:56:43 GMT, scottj...@nospam.kc.rr.com (Top
Sirloin) wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 04:27:40 GMT, Par Deus <par...@avantlabs.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I probably did 11-12 workouts of 35-45 minutes.
>
>I'm guessing you don't go to failure and they're not full body
>workouts - what % of your 1RM are you using?

I would do one set of about 90-95% of 1-RM, then drop down to 60% or
so and do another 4-5 sets.

No, not full body workouts. I am doing chest, shoulders, triceps,
biceps, calves, and abs every other day; and back (usually various
pull/chinups) and legs (squats, SLDL's) every 4th day. This split ends
up being fairly complicated, so I am not going to write the whole
thing out.

ParDeus
www.avantlabs.com


Hoff

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Dec 8, 2001, 1:18:46 PM12/8/01
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>
> Big Mf'r Issue #4 is now up.
>
> www.avantlabs.com
>
> ParDeus
>

ParDeus:

I've got a question regarding your refeeds. In particular, what exactly do
you mean by a "12 hour refeed/36 hour diet"?

I spread calories out during the (waking) day. Are you eating in the middle
of the night? Because waking hours typically are around 16. Just wondering
how you actually structure a 12/36 diet.

Thanks.

Hoff


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Dec 8, 2001, 1:44:48 PM12/8/01
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 14:42:58 GMT, Par Deus <par...@avantlabs.com>
wrote:

>I would do one set of about 90-95% of 1-RM, then drop down to 60% or


>so and do another 4-5 sets.

I've tried that and really liked it.

>No, not full body workouts. I am doing chest, shoulders, triceps,
>biceps, calves, and abs every other day; and back (usually various
>pull/chinups) and legs (squats, SLDL's) every 4th day. This split ends
>up being fairly complicated, so I am not going to write the whole
>thing out.

Spread over 6-11 workouts, I imagine it would be complicated. I dig my
current 3 day a week full body routine with 2 heavy and 1 light/OL
workout because I don't feel like I'm leaving gaps in my training if I
miss a day due to the holidays.

Par Deus

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Dec 8, 2001, 3:14:45 PM12/8/01
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Diet one full day, start eating 4-5 hours after I wake up the next
day. Have my last refeed meal before bed. Repeat.

ParDeus
www.avantlabs.com

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Dec 10, 2001, 10:41:16 AM12/10/01
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:14:45 GMT, Par Deus <par...@avantlabs.com> wrote:

>
>
>Diet one full day, start eating 4-5 hours after I wake up the next
>day. Have my last refeed meal before bed. Repeat.

And how is it working for you? What bf% are you doing this at BTW?


-Scott Johnson
"Always with the excuses for small legs. People like you are
why they only open the top half of caskets." -Tommy Bowen

Par Deus

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Dec 10, 2001, 5:02:16 PM12/10/01
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>
>And how is it working for you? What bf% are you doing this at BTW?


It was working really well when I was doing it. I was down to probably
7-8%, and still dropping (normally "hit the wall" at 9% or so)., then
I got the flu, then went on vacation, etc, -- haven't tried it again
since.

ParDeus
www.avantlabs.com

=w=

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Dec 10, 2001, 8:03:44 PM12/10/01
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Par Deus <par...@avantlabs.com> wrote in message news:<pq531u87s813l59cg...@4ax.com>...

Does that mean it is safe to drink while on ONE+? I read your
articles on alcohol but just was curious.
>
> ParDeus
> www.avantlabs.com

Par Deus

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Dec 10, 2001, 9:05:26 PM12/10/01
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>
>Does that mean it is safe to drink while on ONE+? I read your
>articles on alcohol but just was curious.
>>


As safe as any other time. And, an androgen will certainly help to
counteract some of the damage alcohol does to one's physique.


>> ParDeus
>> www.avantlabs.com

ParDeus
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Dec 10, 2001, 9:13:25 PM12/10/01
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:02:16 GMT, Par Deus <par...@avantlabs.com>
wrote:

>
>>


>>And how is it working for you? What bf% are you doing this at BTW?
>
>
>It was working really well when I was doing it. I was down to probably
>7-8%, and still dropping (normally "hit the wall" at 9% or so)., then
>I got the flu, then went on vacation, etc, -- haven't tried it again
>since.
>
>ParDeus
>www.avantlabs.com

Thanks. I'm not stopping the porkoff until I'm damn lean and I'll hold
this strategy for about oh, 2-3 month from now. :-)

Patrick Arnold

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Dec 10, 2001, 10:07:09 PM12/10/01
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Par Deus wrote:
>
> >
> >Does that mean it is safe to drink while on ONE+? I read your
> >articles on alcohol but just was curious.
> >>
>
> As safe as any other time. And, an androgen will certainly help to
> counteract some of the damage alcohol does to one's physique.
>

I disagree with this to a certain extent. The 1-androstane derivatives
are somewhat resistant to hepatic deactivation and therefore have the
potential to stress the liver if you predispose yourself to it.
Therefore, while taking a 1-androstane you should be nice to your liver
and keep the booze to a minimum

Par Deus

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Dec 11, 2001, 1:06:27 AM12/11/01
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I certainly defer to PA on this, as he knows more about such things --
though ONE is topical, so it would only hit the liver on the way out,
not both.

ParDeus


>
>I disagree with this to a certain extent. The 1-androstane derivatives
>are somewhat resistant to hepatic deactivation and therefore have the
>potential to stress the liver if you predispose yourself to it.
>Therefore, while taking a 1-androstane you should be nice to your liver
>and keep the booze to a minimum

ParDeus
www.avantlabs.com

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