boxers & big lats: why???
Sandeep De
On 29 Jul 1997 20:04:41 GMT, t...@mayfield.hp.com (Ted Johnson) wrote:
>I've noticed that the more muscular boxers (Tyson, Holyfield, etc.)
>have pretty big lats. Is this just a side-effect of their "overall"
>weight training, or do big lats actually help in boxing?
>
>I can't conceive of any boxing punch or defensive maneuver where having
>strong lats helps.
>
>Then again I'm not a boxer.
>
>-T
You'll also notice particularly good biceps and rear delt development.
This is because the antagonists grow to a certain proportion of the
agonists to maintain balance on either sides of the spine. Because the
pecs, anterior/medial delts, tris, quads, calves, glutes, abs, lower
back, do so much work, to keep the body in check compensation will
also be made on the opposite side of the body. However, the body can
only do so much with this "indirect" effect, and if careful attention
is not paid to balance in training, you can still incur strength
deficits and consequently injuries due to misalignment.
Sandeep De
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RBeare
t...@mayfield.hp.com (Ted Johnson) said:
>I've noticed that the more muscular boxers (Tyson, Holyfield, etc.)
>have pretty big lats. Is this just a side-effect of their "overall"
>weight training, or do big lats actually help in boxing?
>
>I can't conceive of any boxing punch or defensive maneuver where having
>strong lats helps.
>
>Then again I'm not a boxer.
>
>-T
Your lats create tension that allows one to punch hard.
and on the 7th day, the Lord Squatted and had a tuna shake.
RBeare
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Mark Wetton
If a boxer didn't have lats he wouldn't be able to:
1. Pull back his arm before a punch, and
2. Bring his arm back ready for another punch...
Big pecs and tri's are great for punching, but what use if you don't
have bi's and lats to return your arm ready for the next punch?
chu...@ix.netcom.com
> > t...@mayfield.hp.com (Ted Johnson) said:
> >
> > >I've noticed that the more muscular boxers (Tyson, Holyfield, etc.)
> > >have pretty big lats. Is this just a side-effect of their "overall"
> > >weight training, or do big lats actually help in boxing?
> > >
> > >I can't conceive of any boxing punch or defensive maneuver where having
> > >strong lats helps.
> > >
> > >Then again I'm not a boxer.
> > >
> > >-T
All this talk about boxing and lat development made me curious so I
grabbed an old pair of karate gloves from the closet and headed down to
the gym. After about a half an hour of fighting the punching bag I was
spent (but I won though; 18-3!). The next day after rolling out of bed
I noticed three things: my wrists and forearms were sore, my shoulders
were sore, and my lats were VERY sore. The point is that for what ever
the reason, boxing makes your lats work very hard and therefore most
likly causes a lot of growth.
Now, can we end this?
Benny
Adam Fahy
Mark Wetton (mwe...@camtech.net.au) wrote:
: If a boxer didn't have lats he wouldn't be able to:
:
: 1. Pull back his arm before a punch, and
: 2. Bring his arm back ready for another punch...
:
: Big pecs and tri's are great for punching, but what use if you don't
: have bi's and lats to return your arm ready for the next punch?
Plus, he'd look sort-of silly with 1/2 an arm and a large hole in his back...
--
"Day after day
On the monkey's face
A monkey face"
-Basho
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Dennis J. Robinson
In <33dea338...@news.golden.net> s...@golden.net (Sandeep De) writes:
Another thing is that the boxers don't "leave" the punch out there. They
pop a jab and rip it back, try boxing in this manner, your lats and
rear delts will hurt..
>On 29 Jul 1997 20:04:41 GMT, t...@mayfield.hp.com (Ted Johnson) wrote:
>>I've noticed that the more muscular boxers (Tyson, Holyfield, etc.)
>>have pretty big lats. Is this just a side-effect of their "overall"
>>weight training, or do big lats actually help in boxing?
>>
>>I can't conceive of any boxing punch or defensive maneuver where having
>>strong lats helps.
>>
>>Then again I'm not a boxer.
>>
>>-T
>You'll also notice particularly good biceps and rear delt development.
>This is because the antagonists grow to a certain proportion of the
>agonists to maintain balance on either sides of the spine. Because the
>pecs, anterior/medial delts, tris, quads, calves, glutes, abs, lower
>back, do so much work, to keep the body in check compensation will
>also be made on the opposite side of the body. However, the body can
>only do so much with this "indirect" effect, and if careful attention
>is not paid to balance in training, you can still incur strength
>deficits and consequently injuries due to misalignment.
>Sandeep De
>The Power Factory - http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4039/
>"Pain is weakness leaving the body." - Unknown
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James Mitchell
In article <33E1D7...@camtech.net.au>,
Mark Wetton <mwe...@camtech.net.au> wrote:
>> t...@mayfield.hp.com (Ted Johnson) said:
>> >I've noticed that the more muscular boxers (Tyson, Holyfield, etc.)
>> >have pretty big lats. do big lats actually help in boxing?
>If a boxer didn't have lats he wouldn't be able to:
>1. Pull back his arm before a punch, and
Most boxers don't telegraph their punches.
>2. Bring his arm back ready for another punch...
>Big pecs and tri's are great for punching, but what use if you don't
>have bi's and lats to return your arm ready for the next punch?
James Mitchell http://netspace.net.au/~jam
Melbourne, Australia.
Mark Wetton
Adam Fahy wrote:
>
> Mark Wetton (mwe...@camtech.net.au) wrote:
>
> : If a boxer didn't have lats he wouldn't be able to:
> :
> : 1. Pull back his arm before a punch, and
> :
> : Big pecs and tri's are great for punching, but what use if you don't
> : have bi's and lats to return your arm ready for the next punch?
>
>
> --
> "Day after day
> On the monkey's face
> A monkey face"
> -Basho
>
> Adam Fahy:
> af...@oitunix.oit.umass.edu Web site: [under construction]
Credit where credit is due, hilarious!!!!
Michael Knapik
0to60 <0t...@megsinet.net> wrote in article <33E8BF...@megsinet.net>...
> chu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > All this talk about boxing and lat development made me curious so I
> > grabbed an old pair of karate gloves from the closet and headed down to
> > the gym. After about a half an hour of fighting the punching bag I was
> > spent (but I won though; 18-3!). The next day after rolling out of bed
> > I noticed three things: my wrists and forearms were sore, my shoulders
> > were sore, and my lats were VERY sore. The point is that for what ever
> > the reason, boxing makes your lats work very hard and therefore most
> > likly causes a lot of growth.
>
> That's a possibility. Notice a lot of swimmers have good lats.
BR already commented on this.
> However, most weightlifing authorities say that light weight/high rep
> exercises (like boxing or swimming) do not promote growth.
I'll venture the lats get sore from absorbing (most of) the shock of
hitting the bag or the bozo.
>