Has anybody tried Larry Scott's Hyper Growth Formula?
Tor Hundstad
I'm tempted to send for this supplement, but since I live in Norway it'll
probably cost me a biceps and a hamstring extra in postage alone. I'd like to
know if anybody has experience with it before I take the chance. Well, do
you? You can answer here, or to my E-mail address.
Thanks in advance.
Tor
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Sean Lokey
to...@sn.no (Tor Hundstad) wrote:
>I'm tempted to send for this supplement, but since I live in Norway it'll
>probably cost me a biceps and a hamstring extra in postage alone. I'd like to
>know if anybody has experience with it before I take the chance. Well, do
>you? You can answer here, or to my E-mail address.
I though Scott's growth formula was Dianabol
Tor Hundstad
When dinosaurs walked the earth, 22 Sep 1996 16:48:24 GMT,Sean Lokey
<skl...@psu.edu> wrote:
>I though Scott's growth formula was Dianabol
That's not the stuff he advertices in Flex. Something tells me that this
Dianabol you're talking about is a drug. I'm way to old for that stuff, I
just want an efficient gainer. I leave the drugs to foolish college students.
Dianabol *might* be a gainer, maybe only the name sounds suspicious.
Michael Kelly Larsen
Tor Hundstad (to...@sn.no) wrote:
: I'm tempted to send for this supplement, but since I live in Norway it'll
: probably cost me a biceps and a hamstring extra in postage alone. I'd like to
: know if anybody has experience with it before I take the chance. Well, do
: you? You can answer here, or to my E-mail address.
: Thanks in advance.
: Tor
Larry's Formula is just a protein powder with some extra stuff thrown into
it. It's no better or worse than pretty much anything else out there. Now
don't get me wrong here. Larry Scott is one of my boyhood idols, and most
likely an all around nice guy, but he's a businessman just like everyone
else out to make a buck. If Larry's Hyper Growth Formula was really as good
as it claims to be, don't you think this group would be inundated with
commentary about it? As it stands, yours and one other persons message
have mentioned this product, and I answered both of them, and that's all
the press this product has received on this group in 18 months. What does
that tell you?
Larry's advertizing also tends to be a little deceptive. The before photo
claims to be larry before using the Hyper-Growth Formula. Nowhere does it
mention that, at one time, LArry had about double the mass of that photo,
and that the picture was taken after an extensive layoff of training. The
second phot is indeed impressive, and should I *ever* look that good, 54 or
not, I'd be a remarkably happy guy. His return gain, however, can easily be
attributed to muscle memory; I put on 17 lbs. after I resumed training after
a lengthy layoff within about 2 - 3 months, and I didn't do anything special.
My bet is that Larry would be able to do the same thing, Hyper-Growth Formula
or not.
Not to be totally negative about Larry, he does advocate an Isometric Diet
Style approach to gaining muscle, and there I think he may be right on the
money. But you don't need any special products to get there. If you *really*
must supplement, doing so with a good quality protein (Whey is rather hip
at the moment), Creatine Monohydrate, and a good multivitamin will probably
do more for you than any of the hyped supplements out there.
-- Varelse
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James Krieger
to...@sn.no (Tor Hundstad) writes:
> When dinosaurs walked the earth, 22 Sep 1996 16:48:24 GMT,Sean Lokey
> <skl...@psu.edu> wrote:
>
> >I though Scott's growth formula was Dianabol
>
> That's not the stuff he advertices in Flex. Something tells me that this
> Dianabol you're talking about is a drug. I'm way to old for that stuff, I
> just want an efficient gainer. I leave the drugs to foolish college students.
> Dianabol *might* be a gainer, maybe only the name sounds suspicious.
You're correct. Dianabol is an anabolic steroid.
Sean Lokey
>
Never even heard of Dianabol and I'm a foolish college student? How old
are you and do you ride a dinosaur to the gym?
LeRoy
In article <32469e28.1194140@news>, to...@sn.no says...
>
>That's not the stuff he advertices in Flex. Something tells me that
this
>Dianabol you're talking about is a drug. I'm way to old for that stuff,
I
>just want an efficient gainer. I leave the drugs to foolish college
students.
>Dianabol *might* be a gainer, maybe only the name sounds suspicious.
>
Dianabol was THE drug in the US in the 60's, 70's and early '80's, until
production was essentially halted. So, the average person that used
Dianabol is now in their 40's, 50's, and 60's. The average college age
steroid user has probably never seen those great little blue 5mg tabs.
Scott claims he only did only 2 tabs a day. In Dr. Robert Kerr's book
he cited people doing several bottles per day in the 60's. Kerr has a
practice built mainly on steroid patients and appeared on 60 Minutes or
programs like that.
Michael Behr
> I'm way to old for that stuff, I
> just want an efficient gainer. I leave the drugs to foolish college students.
And you know all of us foolish college students, we just walk around with
needles in our arms all day. I forget, where does Dorian Yates go to
school again? Princeton?
-Mike
Tor Hundstad
When dinosaurs walked the earth, 25 Sep 1996 21:29:44 GMT,Sean Lokey
<skl...@psu.edu> wrote:
>Never even heard of Dianabol and I'm a foolish college student? How old
>are you and do you ride a dinosaur to the gym?
I'm on the wrong side of 30, and who's got time to go to a gym? I bought the
equpment for my house, since it will cost me more in a year to travel back
and forth to a gym than the bench and barbells cost.
One thing, though, college students: I was thinkin' a bit tongue in cheek,
but obviously it didn't come through. I could as well have said foolis
teenagers or 20 year olds, but it's a lot more efficient to use students here
to get my point across, since a very large percentage of the posters here
are.
ANd my point? I can accept drugs only for those who have the chance to win
big, since the obvious dangers maybe will be overshadowed by the personal
gains for them. And since they can pay their own hospital bills later in
life! But surveys has showed that the typical drug user never wants to enter
any contests, he just wants to look good on the beach (source: Flex'
Drugworld (can't remember the issue)) or be admired in the gym for his great
bod' and his ability to tear up the weights. That's what I call foolish. Ok?
Tor Hundstad
When dinosaurs walked the earth, Thu, 26 Sep 1996 00:06:38
-0500,mab...@mit.edu (Michael Behr) wrote:
>And you know all of us foolish college students, we just walk around with
>needles in our arms all day. I forget, where does Dorian Yates go to
>school again? Princeton?
Check out my former follow-up. Dorian is making a bit of money on this, he
isn't just doing it to look good on the beach. Face it: 99 % of you guys (and
100 % of me :) hasn't got the foggiest chance to win anything with money in
it. The drugs won't help if you haven't got both the genetics and the focused
mind that's needed to train intensely enough. OK?
LeRoy
In article <52c77g$s...@calvino.alaska.net>, ho...@alaska.net says...
>
In Dr. Robert Kerr's book he cited people doing several bottles per
day in the 60's. Kerr has a practice built mainly on steroid patients
and appeared on 60 Minutes or programs like that.
>
The word "has" is incorrect, a typo. It should read "had". Sorry.
Kelly McMillan
Sean Lokey wrote:
>
> James Krieger <jkri...@eecs.wsu.edu> wrote:
> >to...@sn.no (Tor Hundstad) writes:
> >> When dinosaurs walked the earth, 22 Sep 1996 16:48:24 GMT,Sean Lokey
> >> <skl...@psu.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I though Scott's growth formula was Dianabol
> >>
> >> just want an efficient gainer. I leave the drugs to foolish college students.
> >
>
> >
> are you and do you ride a dinosaur to the gym?
Dianabol, Isn't that Lucy's daughter? What a fox. Big Mac
Robert Schuh
Well Tor,
I am glad that yo can make decisions for everyone else in the world. I
take it you are just omnicient in general? What another adult wants to
do with his/her body is no concern of yours. I think people are stupid
to drink alcohol, but I will defend your right to do so even if it is
opposite of my ideologies. Individual morality is great, just don't
impose it on me.
--
Robert Schuh
"There Can Be Only One!"
Miles, Trane, Hendrix and Jaco are Gods!!
rsc...@ix.netcom.com
http://www.elitefitness.com/athlete/rschuh/rschuh.html
Robert Schuh
In <324a2abc.1823776@news> to...@sn.no (Tor Hundstad) writes:
>
>When dinosaurs walked the earth, Thu, 26 Sep 1996 00:06:38
>-0500,mab...@mit.edu (Michael Behr) wrote:
>
>>And you know all of us foolish college students, we just walk around
with
>>needles in our arms all day. I forget, where does Dorian Yates go to
>>school again? Princeton?
>
>Check out my former follow-up. Dorian is making a bit of money on
this, he
>isn't just doing it to look good on the beach. Face it: 99 % of you
guys (and
>100 % of me :) hasn't got the foggiest chance to win anything with
money in
>it. The drugs won't help if you haven't got both the genetics and the
focused
>mind that's needed to train intensely enough. OK?
>
>Tor
>
others. You can train in your own gym and be as small as you want to
be. Get off of your high horse and worry more about why you don't look
good while others do.
Bev Nut
Actually Rheo Blair's protein was one of the first "undenatured" (low heat
process) milk and egg protein. The ingredients were calcium caseinate,
albumin (egg whites), and whole egg solids. A one ounce serving provided
17.5 grams of protein, 7 grams carbs, and two grams fat. Blair, whose
real name was Irvin Johnson, recommended mixing 1/3 cup of the powder with
4 oz. heavy cream and 4 oz. whole milk - three times daily for muscular
gain. He also recommended liver extract and a germ oil concentrate to
provide the essential fatty acids. The diet restricted carbs to salads,
low carb fruit, and the carbs found in the milk and protein powder. The
diet was a forerunner to the high protein, high fat, low carb diets of
today.
Roger Riedinger
Beverly International Nutrition
prin...@ix.netcom.com
to...@sn.no (Tor Hundstad) wrote:
>I'm tempted to send for this supplement, but since I live in Norway it'll
>probably cost me a biceps and a hamstring extra in postage alone. I'd like to
>know if anybody has experience with it before I take the chance. Well, do
>you? You can answer here, or to my E-mail address.
>Thanks in advance.
>Tor
I haven't tried the stuff, but when I read one of Larry's ads very
closely it seemed to me that what he was describing sounded a lot like
the human milk protein Rheo H. Blair was still selling back in the
late '70s. Vince Gironda was a big fan of the stuff, but it cost
something like $50 a pound so I never bought any. I'm sure a lot of
that was markup, since Blair had clients who would pay just about
anything he wanted to charge. The protein was supposed to be derived
from mothers' milk, specifically German mothers' milk; could be
Larry's connected with the same source.
Tor Hundstad
When dinosaurs walked the earth, 27 Sep 1996 05:31:44
GMT,rsc...@ix.netcom.com(Robert Schuh) wrote:
>Tha may be true, but it is not your place to make that decision for
>others. You can train in your own gym and be as small as you want to
>be. Get off of your high horse and worry more about why you don't look
>good while others do.
I'm really getting tired of this bull. I haven't got time for this, but I
just want to say that you'd better read my messages better. I never said what
anybody should do, just that I personally think it's foolish to do drugs if
you haven't got a lot to gain. You might have misread it because of the words
"I can accept", and I can see that can be misleading. I'm not a native
american as you, Norwegian is my first languague. What I meant is that I can
understand it when you've got a lot to gain. Ok? You do what the hell you
want, it's your problem, not mine. I will never try to take away the right to
choose, I'd just like everybody to be responsible for their own choises. So:
'Roid-wrecks, smokers, drinkers, drugger and so on: Do what the hell you
want, but pay your hospital bills afterwords! Don't lay it on the public
system (which I know is a lot less public in the US than in Norway).
The truth, as you probably know, is that there are both short and long term
dangers, and nobody can now up front how a body will react. And I don't worry
about my looks. I just think it's fun to train and I'd like to get a bit
bigger and loose some fat. I'm married, have children, a very good job, a
nice car and a big house. I don't have to prove anything to anybody. So this
is my last follow up on the subject.
Whoah, High Horse! ;->
And to think the whole thing started with a question about a gainer, and
somebody suddenly turned it into drugs... Probably my fault as well, but
still...