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saboteur

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May 15, 2004, 10:22:44 AM5/15/04
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John M. Williams

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May 15, 2004, 11:57:19 AM5/15/04
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sabo...@hushmail.com (saboteur) wrote:

>http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000233.html

What an incredible crock of shit. So the "smoking gun" amongst the
conspiracy morons is the fact that Berg was shown sitting in a white
molded plastic chair, the single most ubiquitous piece of furntiure on
the face of the planet?

But here is the classic:

"Now - put that together with the fact that these "terrorists" are
WHITE and FAT and they are wearing BULLET PROOF VESTS!!"

Bulletproof vests?!?! You imbeciles obviously aren't very familiar
with military equipment. I recognized what those were the second that
I saw them, since they are extremely common amongst every group that
uses the AK-47. Fortunately, one of the readers of Mr. Perkel's
tin-foil-hat rant also recognized what these are:

"FYI, the Islamopigfuckers were not wearing bullet proof vests...they
were wearing load bearing gear for their AK mags."

The VietCong and NVA wore the same thing 30+ years ago. Here's a 1969
photo of an American soldier wearing captured NVA gear:

http://www.tomah.com/lrrp_ranger/NamPhotos58/Bakkie8.JPG

What a bunch of dipshits.

Bruce

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May 15, 2004, 12:11:29 PM5/15/04
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In misc.fitness.weights
John M. Williams <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

>sabo...@hushmail.com (saboteur) wrote:

>What a bunch of dipshits.

You failed to address his US Military issue orange jumpsuit, or are those
ubiquitous throughout Iraq also?

John M. Williams

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May 15, 2004, 12:59:59 PM5/15/04
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br...@nospam.com (Bruce) wrote:

I don't see why not. They are used for prisoners everywhere. They
probably use them in your local county jail. And there's no
indication that it is "US Military issue," other than the fertile
imagination of the tin-foil-hat gang.

Steven C

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May 15, 2004, 2:54:36 PM5/15/04
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"saboteur" <sabo...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000233.html

how can he tell that guys wearing masks are caucasian


Un Patriote

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May 15, 2004, 3:15:43 PM5/15/04
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Le Sat, 15 May 2004 18:54:36 GMT, "Steven C"
<real_doktersteve@_hotmail.com> a écrit :

Can they tell they were not ?


Shel Scott

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May 15, 2004, 4:09:40 PM5/15/04
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John M. Williams <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>sabo...@hushmail.com (saboteur) wrote:
>>http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000233.html
>
>What an incredible crock of shit.
>
My favorite conspiracy theory is that the WTC buildings were actually
brought down by demolition charges, not by the planes. Some serious
brain damage abounds among these geeks.
--
): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" :(
(: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net :)

Shel Scott

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May 15, 2004, 4:09:41 PM5/15/04
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Un Patriote <HOTMAIL..QC@Patriote> wrote:
>"Steven C" <real_doktersteve@_hotmail.com> a écrit :
>>how can he tell that guys wearing masks are caucasian
>
>Can they tell they were not ?
>
You can tell they weren't caucasian by the way they killed Berg.

Un Patriote

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May 15, 2004, 4:19:25 PM5/15/04
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Le Sat, 15 May 2004 13:09:41 -0700, Shel Scott <WellDone> a écrit :

>Un Patriote <HOTMAIL..QC@Patriote> wrote:
>>"Steven C" <real_doktersteve@_hotmail.com> a écrit :
>>>how can he tell that guys wearing masks are caucasian
>>
>>Can they tell they were not ?
>>
>You can tell they weren't caucasian by the way they killed Berg.

They were sober ? Caucasian colonialists have done worst.

Yeoman

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May 15, 2004, 4:49:06 PM5/15/04
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"Steven C" <real_doktersteve@_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MHtpc.462240$Pk3.149553@pd7tw1no>...

Then why do your CIA masters claim to know the identities of those
wearing the masks?

Hartmann Schaffer

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May 15, 2004, 6:29:47 PM5/15/04
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In article <1c4cedba.04051...@posting.google.com>,

afaik they have identified only one guy, through voice print analysis

hs

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saboteur

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May 15, 2004, 7:00:42 PM5/15/04
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John M. Williams <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message news:<3pica01u1nnfave38...@4ax.com>...

But why would terrorists feel the need to disguise their victim in an
orange jumpsuit???
Where can one go and buy such an item offhand???
You go to an uniform store???
Wouldnt that be akward in the middle of a civil war???

Jim Ranieri

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May 15, 2004, 7:17:06 PM5/15/04
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"saboteur" <sabo...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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> John M. Williams <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in

> > I don't see why not. They are used for prisoners everywhere. They


> > probably use them in your local county jail. And there's no
> > indication that it is "US Military issue," other than the fertile
> > imagination of the tin-foil-hat gang.
>
> But why would terrorists feel the need to disguise their victim in an
> orange jumpsuit???
> Where can one go and buy such an item offhand???
> You go to an uniform store???
> Wouldnt that be akward in the middle of a civil war???

But of course! You haf found ze flaw, Clouseau!


Bruce

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May 15, 2004, 7:36:18 PM5/15/04
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In misc.fitness.weights
h...@heaven.nirvananet (Hartmann Schaffer) wrote:

>In article <1c4cedba.04051...@posting.google.com>,
> yeoma...@yahoo.com (Yeoman) writes:
>> "Steven C" <real_doktersteve@_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MHtpc.462240$Pk3.149553@pd7tw1no>...
>>> "saboteur" <sabo...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5aa29b63.04051...@posting.google.com...
>>> > http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000233.html
>>>
>>> how can he tell that guys wearing masks are caucasian
>>
>> Then why do your CIA masters claim to know the identities of those
>> wearing the masks?
>
>afaik they have identified only one guy, through voice print analysis

Yeah, a guy they have claimed to have killed a few months ago and a guy
that is supposed to have a wooden leg.

Tim Crowley

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May 15, 2004, 8:09:02 PM5/15/04
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"Steven C" <real_doktersteve@_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MHtpc.462240$Pk3.149553@pd7tw1no>...


look at the hands

Ralphie

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May 15, 2004, 8:53:22 PM5/15/04
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"Bruce" <br...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Actually, yes. Tens of thousands of Iraq prisoners wore them during the
first gulf war, and likely many, many thousands have worn them in this one.
They are laundered by locals, too, so I doubt they're very hard to get.

John M. Williams

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May 16, 2004, 1:20:46 AM5/16/04
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sabo...@hushmail.com (saboteur) wrote:

>John M. Williams <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message news:<3pica01u1nnfave38...@4ax.com>...
>> br...@nospam.com (Bruce) wrote:
>>
>> >In misc.fitness.weights
>> >John M. Williams <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>sabo...@hushmail.com (saboteur) wrote:
>>
>> >>What a bunch of dipshits.
>> >
>> >You failed to address his US Military issue orange jumpsuit, or are those
>> >ubiquitous throughout Iraq also?
>>
>> I don't see why not. They are used for prisoners everywhere. They
>> probably use them in your local county jail. And there's no
>> indication that it is "US Military issue," other than the fertile
>> imagination of the tin-foil-hat gang.
>
>But why would terrorists feel the need to disguise their victim in an
>orange jumpsuit???

Moron. They weren't "disguising" him. They were using the orange
jumpsuit as a symbol.

>Where can one go and buy such an item offhand???
>You go to an uniform store???
>Wouldnt that be akward in the middle of a civil war???

They can obtain AK-47s, RPGs, rockets, and all sorts of munitions.
You think that obtaining an orange jumpsuit to make a political
statement would be that difficult?

Yes. You are a moron.

John M. Williams

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May 16, 2004, 1:27:30 AM5/16/04
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br...@nospam.com (Bruce) wrote:

Bullshit. And the CIA retracted it's intelligence about the wooden
leg a month ago:

"A U.S. official said Tuesday that al-Zarqawi traveled to Baghdad in
May 2002 for treatment of a leg injury but, contrary to previous
reports, appears not to have had a leg amputated. The official would
not discuss the reason for the change in assessment."
-- CNN, April 7, 2004
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/06/us.zarqawi/

You tin-foil-hat boys need to update your information.

Lucas Buck

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May 16, 2004, 4:38:26 AM5/16/04
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Their chants had no rhythm?

saboteur

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May 16, 2004, 9:32:50 AM5/16/04
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John M. Williams <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message news:<3juda01coc2rg77ol...@4ax.com>...

Oceania has always been at was with Eastasia, Winston.
2+2=5 or whatever the party says it is, Winston.

saboteur

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May 16, 2004, 9:35:17 AM5/16/04
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John M. Williams <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message news:<c9uda09h22na10t6q...@4ax.com>...

Why not have berg naked and on a leash then?

Dally

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May 16, 2004, 12:51:01 PM5/16/04
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Proton Soup wrote:

> On Sun, 16 May 2004 01:20:46 -0400, John M. Williams

> Take one off-the-rack standard white jumpsuit.
> Take one package orange Rit dye.
> Dump both in bucket.
> Add water.
> Stir.
>
> Voila ! Instant orange jumpsuit !
>
> Rinse and wear, you are so there !
>
>
> I wonder though, if I should even be posting instructions on the
> manufacture of orange jumpsuits. What if the terrorists are reading
> this and learn the secret? Could I live with myself knowing that
> they'll now have an endless supply of orange jumpsuits? Now that they
> know they secret, they'll surely be able to keep more than one
> prisoner at a time.
>
> Oh, who am I kidding? Terrorists are too stupid to read, much less
> make their own orange jumpsuits. The one in that video was probably
> stolen.

Plus, I don't think orange rit is as easy to come by as you think. I
only ever see primary colors. Making orange would require a secret
formula involving two colors and I'm not telling. So your secret is safe.

Dally

Adam Fahy

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May 16, 2004, 1:31:32 PM5/16/04
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Proton Soup wrote:

> Take one off-the-rack standard white jumpsuit.
> Take one package orange Rit dye.
> Dump both in bucket.
> Add water.
> Stir.
>
> Voila ! Instant orange jumpsuit !
>
> Rinse and wear, you are so there !
>
>
> I wonder though, if I should even be posting instructions on the
> manufacture of orange jumpsuits. What if the terrorists are reading
> this and learn the secret? Could I live with myself knowing that
> they'll now have an endless supply of orange jumpsuits? Now that they
> know they secret, they'll surely be able to keep more than one
> prisoner at a time.
>
> Oh, who am I kidding? Terrorists are too stupid to read, much less
> make their own orange jumpsuits. The one in that video was probably
> stolen.

I just don't understand the train of logic... why is the fact that he
was in an orange jumpsuit somehow indicative that this video was concocted?


-Adam

Lee Michaels

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May 16, 2004, 2:19:59 PM5/16/04
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"Adam Fahy" <mai...@myobligatory.com> wrote in message
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Cuz terrorists supposedly lack the resources, intelligence and imagination
to obtain an orange jump suit. Cuz orange jump suits are like a jelouly
guarded secret of western civiliations. Ragheads could never figure it out
somehow.

Or something.

John M. Williams

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May 16, 2004, 2:45:08 PM5/16/04
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Adam Fahy <mai...@myobligatory.com> wrote:

You may be incapable of comprehending this logic. I recommend that
you consume 75-150mcg of lysergic acid diethylamide to emulate the
symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia. The logic will become immediately
clear.

Fashioning a skullcap from aluminum foil may also help to set the
mood.

Anon

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May 16, 2004, 3:46:15 PM5/16/04
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sabo...@hushmail.com (saboteur) wrote in message news:<5aa29b63.04051...@posting.google.com>...

I hope you're not arguing that because he's not on a leash, it's a
conspiracy.

Militant islam still puts high value on modesty. It's a value they
pride. They despise the west for 'immorality'.
Real Immorality in the arab world is not publicised even though it may
be rife and rampant.
http://www.barrychamish.com/English/Newsletter/November%202002.htm

You still can't see that they're different to us.
Look.
If the american soldiers had murdered and not abused the iraqis, then
the west would have gone madder. The arabs would have made a bit of a
fuss - because it's an opportunity to attack america, but they
wouldn't have cared much. They behave far worse.

However, if the terrorists had publically sexually abused berg (i'm
not saying they did so privately). Then the arab world would have been
disgusted. When the arab world saw berg murdered, it's not such a big
deal to them.
They chop off each others heads the whole time.
Infact, they would probably say that it was an honourable way to die.

Remember these people would happily rip off a baby's head for fun, so
we're not dealing with wild animals or klingons here.
This is a greater evil.

Siraaj Khandkar

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May 16, 2004, 7:24:33 PM5/16/04
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"Anon" <q_q_an...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Remember these people would happily rip off a baby's head for fun, so
> we're not dealing with wild animals or klingons here.
> This is a greater evil.
>

What kind of drugs are YOU on????

Have you ever even been anywhere in that neighborhood?
How many of "these people" do you personally know?


Siraaj


Brian Link

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May 17, 2004, 1:29:22 AM5/17/04
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On 15 May 2004 07:22:44 -0700, sabo...@hushmail.com (saboteur) wrote:

>http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000233.html

Now this is just sad. As a commie-pinko-liberal, I disassociate myself
with these morons who have gone so far overboard that they don't
believe terrorists even act like terrorists anymore.

Just cuz you think the Iraq invasion was a bad idea doesn't mean you
think there are no bad guys in the world. The really sad thing is,
from the sounds of it, that's exactly what Berg was thinking.

HOWEVER.. there is some intrigue in the whole situation which will
prove interesting as it's explored - ie, FBI watching Berg, CIA
holding/not holding him in Iraq, etc.

I've luckily managed to avoid the video or audio. I did catch the
still images on Drudge, and they were definitely disturbing. I hope
they figure out who his killers are.

Brian Link, Minnesota Countertenor
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"I think animal testing is a terrible idea;
they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."
- regmech

Lordy

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May 17, 2004, 5:22:21 AM5/17/04
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q_q_an...@yahoo.co.uk (Anon) wrote in news:61f945bb.0405161146.19928a93
@posting.google.com:

> http://www.barrychamish.com/English/Newsletter/November%202002.htm

There it is again -> "I could care less already"

Lordy

Anon

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May 17, 2004, 12:27:40 PM5/17/04
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"Siraaj Khandkar" <khas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<40a7f81f$1...@marge.ic.sunysb.edu>...

i'm talking about the terrorists you idiot. Not the general arab
public.
There's a difference between DOING it, SUPPORTING it and CONDONING IT.

The Terrorists would happily rip off a baby's head for fun.

There are videos of terrorists stoning people to death, and countless
stories of terrorists playing with bodyparts(recently in israel they
played football with them), eating brains(arabs at the sabra and
shetila massacre), general cannibalism(like in ramalla).

Look at the terrorists in the video, and that's what they're willing
to show to the public.

When I said "THESE PEOPLE" I was referring to terrorists. I imagine
that you're not on drugs, you're just a left winger. There's no cure
for you.

Now, side point, the arabs don't cry over dead americans or dead jews.
The general arab public would condone a head ripped off it if it were
a jewish or american baby.
Listen to their spokesmen on tv! "very sad, BUT" "BUT BUT BUT BUT
BUT"
(note to siraaj - don't try to make a 'clever' joke, i wrote BUT not
BUTT)

Anon

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May 17, 2004, 12:32:21 PM5/17/04
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"Siraaj Khandkar" <khas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<40a7f81f$1...@marge.ic.sunysb.edu>...

i'm talking about the terrorists you idiot. Not the general arab

Anon

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May 17, 2004, 2:49:01 PM5/17/04
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Lordy <spam...@gmx.net> wrote in message news:<Xns94EC69C62303...@130.133.1.4>...

yeah, i'm sick of how the internet is flooded by pro american pro
israel conspiracy theories that accurately predict the future. I
really shouldn't have linked to yet another one of those. We're all
sick of them.

Siraaj Khandkar

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May 18, 2004, 6:43:29 PM5/18/04
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So you're basically saying that you don't know sh*t, right?

By making baseless assumptions about me, are you attempting to
demonstrate your lack of education and inability at rational thinking?
If yes, you're doing a pretty good job.

Not sure if it will help, but try laying off caffeine and sticking your
head inside the freezer for a few minutes every now and then, may be it
will help a little bit. Although I doubt it, but hey, it wouldn't hurt
to try.


Siraaj


Anon

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May 19, 2004, 8:30:43 AM5/19/04
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"Siraaj Khandkar" <khas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<40aa9179$1...@marge.ic.sunysb.edu>...

How THICK.
I never made any assumption about you. I just said "don't try to make
a 'clever' joke" It doesn't mean that you will try.

Then, after accusing me of making assumptions.

You assume that I'm having caffeine.

Your post is so stupid that it really isn't worthy of further
analysis.
(note to siraaj: I'll be quite happy if you copy and paste that line
in response to my post)

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