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Rilchiam

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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Hi guys. I'm not a troll; I'm an oldtimer who usually hangs out on the web
board, but tonight, as you might go, the web board is inaccessible. Anyway, Mr.
Rilch wants to waterproof his work jacket, but the fine print says to wash the
jacket with "non-detergent soap" beforehand. Is wool wash non-detergent? Or
could he just not wash it before waterproofing? It's not especially dirty.
Thanx in advance!

Remember, I'm pulling for you; we're all in this together. ---Red Green


Mike Koenecke

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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On or about 23 Feb 2000 03:07:29 GMT, rilc...@aol.com (Rilchiam)
allegedly wrote:

Howdy there; we still remember you. I make occasional forays into the
Web board, but have little patience with the format. Anyway, I seem to
recall that there is a fundamental difference between "detergent" and
"soap," probably from one of Cecil's columns. F'rinstance, I believe
that "Zest" is actually a detergent, as are shampoos. I suspect the
instructions are intended to prevent you from using standard laundry
detergents, which leave flourescent stuff behind in the fabric that
might interfere with the waterproofing. So something like Woolite
would probably be the way to go.

"If the women don't find you handsome..."
---
Mike Koenecke
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Grey Wolf

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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In article <38b36a44.21546783@news>, mkoe...@nowhere.net wisely
refrained from saying more than...

Soap is made from animal fat and lye (with glycerine optional). Detergent
and "detergent soap" are not.

--
Grey "hand made" Wolf
I get a perverse pleasure from watching vegetarians eat crow.

McCaffertA

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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In article <20000222220729...@ng-fp1.aol.com>, rilc...@aol.com
(Rilchiam) writes:

>Hi guys. I'm not a troll; I'm an oldtimer who usually hangs out on the web
>board, but tonight, as you might go, the web board is inaccessible. Anyway,
>Mr.
>Rilch wants to waterproof his work jacket, but the fine print says to wash
>the
>jacket with "non-detergent soap" beforehand. Is wool wash non-detergent? Or
>could he just not wash it before waterproofing? It's not especially dirty.
>Thanx in advance!
>
>Remember, I'm pulling for you; we're all in this together. ---Red Green

It means real soap: bar soap, saddle soap, etc. They are made from fats
treated with lye, and any excess soap not washed off will combine with the oils
in the waterproffing to make a grease. Detergents, on the other hand, if not
thoroughly rinsen, may prevent the waterproofing from taking hold.

McCaffertA

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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In article <38b36a44.21546783@news>, mkoe...@nowhere.net (Mike Koenecke)
writes:

>So something like Woolite
>would probably be the way to go.

No. It's a detergent. If you use it (or any detergent) before using an oil
or silicone based waterproofing, you have to rinse a great deal more thoroughly
than normal.

McCaffertA

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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In article <8EE342E30azzi...@209.214.104.76>,
azz...@pleaseremovethispart.bellsouth.net (Mirhanda Sarko) writes:

>I'm pretty sure Ivory Snow (sold for washing baby clothes) is soap and
>not detergent. Look in the detergent aisle of your favorite grocery
>store.

Yes, it is. On the other hand, so is most bar soap, which many people are
more likely to have at hand.

McCaffertA

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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In article <20000223115718...@nso-da.aol.com>,
mccaf...@aol.comment (McCaffertA) writes:

Maybe make that "yes, it was."

Mike Koenecke

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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On or about 23 Feb 2000 06:34:56 GMT, mccaf...@aol.comment
(McCaffertA) allegedly wrote:

Thanks for the correction. I speculated that it might be the
fluorescent dyes laundry detergents leave behind that would interfere
with the waterproofing, and assumed that Woolite would not have that
sort of thing. Any ideas on exactly *why* a detergent (without dyes)
would leave behind more detritus, impeding waterproofing?

Doug Hendry

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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Morning all, and greetings from sunny Durban. What and/or where is this web
board of which you speak?
Doug Hendry, (doug...@Visiboard.com)
"Grey Wolf" <gr...@hot.nospam.mail.com> wrote in message
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In article <38b36a44.21546783@news>, mkoe...@nowhere.net wisely
refrained from saying more than...
> On or about 23 Feb 2000 03:07:29 GMT, rilc...@aol.com (Rilchiam)
> allegedly wrote:
>

TOMNDEBB

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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>From: "Doug Hendry" doug...@visiboard.com
>Date: 2/23/00 10:42 PM Eastern Standard Time

>What and/or where is this web
>board of which you speak?

The Straight Dope is a newspaper column produced weekly by Cecil Adams (the
world's smartest human).

His columns are reproduced at http://www.straightdope.com/

An associated message board (currently in the midst of a server crisis and not
accessible) is at http://www.straightdope.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/Ultimate.cgi

Tom~

Lynn Bodoni

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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From: mccafferta:

>In article <8EE342E30azzi...@209.214.104.76>,
>azz...@pleaseremovethispart.bellsouth.net (Mirhanda Sarko) writes:
>
>>I'm pretty sure Ivory Snow (sold for washing baby clothes) is soap and
>>not detergent. Look in the detergent aisle of your favorite grocery
>>store.
>
> Yes, it is. On the other hand, so is most bar soap, which many people
>are
>more likely to have at hand.

Grate some Ivory bar soap on a food grater or in a processor. Probably about a
fourth of a bar should do the trick. Put it into a heat resistant container,
and pour hot water on it. Mix well, until the soap flakes dissolve. Pour the
resulting glop into the washer while it's filling up, before you put the
clothes in.

Lynn

http://www.straightdope.com/

Dutch Courage

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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peppe...@aol.compost (Lynn Bodoni) writes:

>Grate some Ivory bar soap on a food grater or in a processor. Probably about
>a
>fourth of a bar should do the trick. Put it into a heat resistant container,
>and pour hot water on it. Mix well, until the soap flakes dissolve. Pour
>the
>resulting glop into the washer while it's filling up, before you put the
>clothes in.

Well, if you say so, but why?

"I have made a ceaseless effort not to ridicule, not to bewail, not to scorn
human actions, but to understand them" -Spinoza

"The ridiculing and scorn, that's just gravy."-Courage

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