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Ron Asbestos Dippold

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Nov 21, 1994, 11:49:10 AM11/21/94
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moderated group misc.entrepreneurs.moderated

Newsgroups line:
misc.entrepreneurs.moderated Entrepreneur/business topics. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 13 December 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdip...@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Steven Garman <suga...@world.std.com>


CHARTER

The newsgroup is for the purposes of moderated discussion of
entrepreneurial and small-business topics, like: starting a business,
finding capital, running operations, controlling costs, obtaining
appropriate products and services, handling employees, filing patents,
handling tax laws, obtaining credit-card and check processing, etc.
_____________________________________

The following will be allowed:

Entrepreneurial discussions.
Discussions on operating a small business.
MLM discussions.
Business methodologies and philosophies.
Business conferences/seminars from gov agencies or universities.
Business conferences/seminars from some NPOs.
Informational postings of news articles.
Sigs (which may contain ads) that do not exceed 6 lines.
Sigs that exceed 6 lines, but will be clipped by the moderator.
Limited discussions on the group's moderation policies.

The following will not be allowed:

Spams of any sort.
MAKE.MONEY.FAST and other such illegal postings.
Blatant advertisements for products or services.
China Business Journal and things like it.
Business conferences/seminars from private organizations.
MLM discussions that advertise or promote an MLM.
Investor/capitalist proposals and contacts.
Excessive discussions on the group's moderation policies.
Anti- or Pro-MLM diatribes.
Flames (will be referred to email).

The following will be allowed, but discouraged by the moderator:

Posts that were intended to be private responses.
_____________________________________

Posts will be judged strictly by the above criteria, and by whichever
moderator that is doing the work. Rejected posts will not be
returned; instead, a form letter might be returned, which will have a
checklist denoting the problem(s) that caused the rejection.

Changes to the moderation policies are the duty and responsibility of
the moderator. Before changes are done, the moderator will do two
things: 1) Run any proposed changes by the AM(s), to gain AM advice.
2) Post proposed policy changes to the newsgroup, to obtain reader
advice.

Transfers of moderation workload will take place by the moderator's
arrangement with one of the AMs. Once arranged, the moderator will
place the target AM Internet address(es) in his ".forward" file. This
will be done for as long as the arrangement called for.

New assistant moderators may be added, in a voting procedure that
mimics the CFV procedure. The proposed, added, assistant moderator
will be presented to the newsgroup in an pseudo-CFV, by the moderator;
yea/nay votes will be collected by the moderator via email for 2
weeks (votes which are only posted will be ignored); the outcome must
be 2/3rds in favor, in order to accept the new assistant moderator.
Once there are 3 AMs, no new nominations will be accepted until such
time as the moderation group (primary and assistants) agrees that
there is a need for additional AMs.

The moderator and AMs will exchange phone numbers and keep in touch,
to minimize newsgroup downtime if a transferral of moderation needs
to take place.

MODERATOR:
Steven Garman <suga...@world.std.com>
MODERATION ADDRESS:
misc...@world.std.com

WHY THIS CFV SHOULD PASS:

The newsgroup misc.entrepreneurs has been overrun by advertising for
some time, but moderating that newsgroup raises issues of censorship.
It seems accomodating to many users that a new newsgroup be created,
side by side with misc.entrepreneurs, that will offer moderated
discussion free from advertising of the nature that has made
misc.entrepreneurs nearly unreadable.


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Ron Asbestos Dippold

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misc.entrepreneurs.moderated Bounce List - No need to revote
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bob....@chemgate.chem.lsu.edu Bob Zinn
cl...@laitram.com
deca...@syr.edu
dev...@devine1.slip.iglou.com Doug Devine
j...@bha.bdt.com Jon Hoyt
wik...@usmssmtp.us.ohio-state.edu Wiksell, Parker

Ron Asbestos Dippold

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Jan 5, 1995, 2:15:13 PM1/5/95
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
moderated group misc.entrepreneurs.moderated passes 350:28

There were 350 YES votes and 28 NO votes, for a total of 378 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain and 5 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
misc.entrepreneurs.moderated Entrepreneur/business topics. (Moderated)

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting


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misc.entrepreneurs.moderated Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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4p...@qlink.queensu.ca Smale Paul R
74511...@CompuServe.COM J. R. (Jim) Swartz
92R...@wmich.edu
A...@dlogics.com Andrew C. Green
ache...@sas.upenn.edu Allison G Cherner
ad...@bigpine.csee.usf.edu Jonathan Adair
ae...@panix.com Applied Economics Corp.
aez...@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu
af...@divsun.unige.ch Afzal Ballim
Agb...@world.std.com David W Wheat
aki...@cix.compulink.co.uk Akin Solarin
ala...@dgs.dgsys.com Anita Lauro
a...@cs.cornell.edu Anne Louise Gockel
alp...@cs.bu.edu Richard Alpert
als...@midway.uchicago.edu Sargasso
AMit...@aol.com
an...@server.cs.virginia.edu
ape...@ios.com Amit Peleg
a...@ozemail.com.au Mark Horsburgh
ark...@clark.net Jonathan Crawford
as...@DGS.dgsys.com American Supply Int'l Inc.
Aspe...@aol.com
at...@Menudo.UH.EDU Amy Knock
au...@cs.albany.edu Jim Ault
bak...@rpi.edu Jeffrey James Baker
bam...@ATK.COM Joe Bamert
bar...@wam.umd.edu Barry E. Henderson
bay...@DGS.dgsys.com Bayatti Design and Trade Company
bco...@cs.Buffalo.EDU Bram Cohen
BF...@delphi.com
bhu...@acs.ucalgary.ca B. Bhullar
bjor...@odhin.odh.no Bjornulf Hafstad
b...@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
bk...@umcc.umich.edu Benjamin Kyan
bob....@chemgate.chem.lsu.edu Bob Zinn
b...@danil.demon.co.uk Bob Savage
bono...@dvorak.amd.com David Bonorden
Brew...@aol.com
bri...@access.digex.net Brian G.
bru...@teleport.com Bruce Baugh
b...@cs.wustl.edu Bala Swaminathan
b...@theus.rain.com Barbara Theus
bum...@pacific.cse.psu.edu
BU...@BUSINESS.CBA.KSU.EDU John Bunch
bur...@usa.net Keith Hamburger
CARL...@delphi.com
carlso...@smtpmac.bah.com Carlson Chris
cat...@netcom.com Mark Kupferman
cat...@passport.ca Christopher Hall
cbs...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Christopher Bradford Stone
Chakra....@Eng.Sun.COM Chakra Srivatsa
char...@net.bio.net Charleen Bunjiovianna
cha...@eci1.ucsb.edu Charu Chaubal
chin...@efn.org Chinese Press
ch...@24hour.com M. Christopher Davies
christo...@ps.com Christopher Ogg
ci...@dpcsys.com Cindy Englander
ckr...@netcom.com Craig Krantz
cl...@laitram.com
CLNi...@aol.com
cl...@lunch.engr.sgi.com Diane Barlow Close
Co...@success.demon.co.uk Colin Edwards
co...@pipeline.com Corporate Agents Inc.
cos...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Ronald Thomas Coslick
cov...@karloff.fstrf.org
cp...@bbn.com Constantine Papageorgiou
cra...@infi.net Craig Eddy
cro...@taussky.cs.colorado.edu Matthew Crosby
csn...@world.std.com carl e snook
Cth...@aol.com
d...@pacvax.pacersoft.com David A. Dubois
da...@remedy.Remedy.COM
david....@asacomp.com David Stroop
DAV...@memstvx1.memphis.edu
dbar...@sas.upenn.edu David Barclay
d...@panix.com David W. Crawford
D...@ALPHA.SUNQUEST.COM
d...@bae.bellcore.com David Pascua
Debbie...@mindlink.bc.ca Debbie Acton
deca...@mailbox.syr.edu Dana E. Cartwright 315-442-9104
d...@renaissoft.com Dee-Ann LeBlanc
dee...@ACM.ORG D. DeVine
de...@gate.net
DEL...@CAM.ORG DELPHI GROUP CANADA
de...@te-cats.COM Derek W. Kay
dev...@devine1.slip.iglou.com Doug Devine
dhar...@mcs.com Daniel Hartung
DHAY...@MtRoyal.AB.CA
dip...@microsoft.com
disc...@unicomp.net Dave Dischert
dmcn...@netcom.com Dennis McNamara
DMJ...@delphi.com
dnmi...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu David Neal Miller
DONE...@delphi.com
do...@svpal.org Donald McRoberts
Door...@aol.com
do...@SDSC.EDU Dennis Doty
doug....@ideasnet.com
DO...@fullfeed.com
dou...@dgs.dgsys.com Douglas Ide
d...@infinet.com Daniel Sabo
Duk...@aol.com
d...@vmark.co.uk Dave Cheeseman
DWEIS...@csi.compuserve.com David Weislogel
e...@world.std.com Erik B Sherman
e...@OCN.Com Ed Goldgehn
e...@atlas.cb.att.com Ed Thompson
ekl...@rpi.edu Neil H. Eklund
Eli.M...@lambada.oit.unc.edu
el...@netcom.com Elin Kordahl
epp1...@descg4.desc.dla.mil Ann T. Mosconi
erle.w...@oln.com
es...@netcom.com Christopher Estep
ev...@wincom.com Evan Miller
exe...@gsusgi2.gsu.edu Jon H. Drescher
Flick...@aol.com
Frank.B...@lambada.oit.unc.edu Frank Bommarito
FSI...@aol.com
fu...@gl.umbc.edu Francis A Uy
gandp!c...@uunet.uu.net Tim Colli
gandp!di...@uunet.uu.net
gandp!k...@uunet.uu.net Karen B. Tkacik
gandp!mic...@uunet.uu.net Michael Arline
gfr...@csn.org Gary Fritz
gr...@world.std.com Dick Grady
gs...@watt.seas.virginia.edu Gregory S. Klopp
gst...@charm.net
gt0...@prism.gatech.edu
gurg...@telerama.lm.com LJ Gurganus
ha...@rahul.net Matt Haley
ha...@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca Henry Rearden
hapy...@ace.com Mjw
harr...@wharton.upenn.edu David Harrison
hasl...@halcyon.com Steve Haslet
HATF...@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU HATFIELD
hay...@krypton.mankato.msus.edu Robert A. Hayden
hay...@access.digex.net Hayman Systems
h...@pipeline.com Hudson BioCapital Inc.
hoo...@norcross.em.slb.com Greg Hooper
hop...@omnifarious.omnifarious.mn.org Eric M. Hopper
How...@ix.netcom.com Howard Lebowitz
hrt...@heartprints.com Allen Shallahamer, President, HeartPrints
hsto...@uoguelph.ca Harry R Stoddart
i...@iand.demon.co.uk ian dickson
i...@ozemail.com.au Ivan Kinda
IO2...@MAINE.MAINE.EDU Brent Sutherland
i...@public.compusult.nf.ca Steve Harris
ja...@mindspring.com Jack C. Baxter Jr.
JACK...@delphi.com
ja...@nbn.com Jason Schwager
ja...@msgate.columbiasc.NCR.COM Bredenberg, Jay
jaz...@umd5.umd.edu Azriel - Jay
j...@moses.oau.org James B. Huber
je...@loki.engr.sgi.com Jeff C. Glover
jfre...@porch.com Jeff Freeman
jhol...@world.std.com Jerome T Holland
j...@marlin.ssnet.com Jim Reynolds
jim...@freenet.scri.fsu.edu Jim Gallagher
jlo...@mafalda.univalle.edu.co Jose Luis Oliveros.
JMJ...@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU moxie
j...@informix.com
jo...@amgot.remcomp.fr
jol...@nyx10.cs.du.edu John Olsen
j...@bha.bdt.com Jon Hoyt
jorgen....@ct.se Jorgen Hallbeck
jpol...@nashua.hp.com Joseph A. Polcari Jr.
jr...@craycos.com Jim Davies
jrsc...@wariat.org John R. Schwab
jsh...@cais.cais.com John Short
jste...@nyx10.cs.du.edu Joe Stewart
Jul...@aol.com
jusa...@iglou.com Troy Savage
jwh...@earth.execpc.com Jim Hayes
ka...@rand.org Karen Isaacson
kb...@community.net Kenneth Barnard
kcoc...@nyx10.cs.du.edu Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran
Keith....@FtCollinsCO.ATTGIS.COM Keith Gallie
k...@lightstn.com Kenneth Bob
ken...@rss.dl.nec.com Kenneth East
kf...@picayune.coginst.uwf.edu Ken Ford
khur...@vuse.vanderbilt.edu Ruchir Kumar Khurana
ki...@metronet.com Jacqueline Hamilton
ki...@clark.net Bill Kisse
kmc...@mathworks.com Karin McEwen
ko...@asterope.rice.edu Richard Koehl
kste...@DGS.dgsys.com Kirk Stewart
ku...@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Edward Korthof
LAI...@stsci.edu
lam...@cs.washington.edu
LaneE...@aol.com
La...@physio.wa.com Lantz Rowland
lca...@cis.ohio-state.edu lawanna j casto
lco...@fox.nstn.ca Lorne A. Cooke
lea...@iex.com Paul Leamon
lees...@mcs.com Lee Stral
Leland.E....@usnet.us.net lva...@md.us.net
l...@blackstone.com Larry Katz
li...@tterms.comm.mot.com Lisa Bashir
Lis...@aol.com
lmi...@indy.net Larry Miller
lo...@robby.caltech.edu Mark Long
LR...@rli.com Luis Ruiz
l...@ATK.COM Tony Luk
Lur...@aol.com
MAA...@delphi.com John
maj...@homer15.u.washington.edu Michael \"MAJIK\" Fountain
MAKOWSKI_CH...@Lilly.com MAKOWSKI CHRISTOPHER P
ma...@htc.com Marie Clear
ma...@ccnet.com Mark White
Mark_W...@ccmail.northrop.com Mark W. Aurit
ma...@ll.mit.edu Matthew Ide
matt...@infinet.com Matthew Osborn
mbal...@advent.com
mch...@bizchgo.com Michael Chase
mcl...@bev.net Michael Clark
md...@netcom.com Mark Dean
MDMA...@ULKYVX.LOUISVILLE.EDU
m...@ac.duke.edu Michael Grubb
mgr...@encore.com Mark Greer
MI...@BLURT.OSWEGO.EDU
Michael...@Eng.Sun.COM Dr. Finklestein
mi...@italic.DIALix.oz.au Michael Tunnecliffe
mi...@world.std.com Michael Trachtman
mill...@rmii.com Joe Milligan
mi...@cts.com Ron Mink - Pacific Biotech Inc.
m...@ideasnet.com
Mmm...@aol.com
mon...@essex.hsc.colorado.edu B. Monroe
mo...@netcom.com John Mortz
m...@world.std.com Margaret R. Fortier
m...@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schroeder
murr...@WIZARD.COLORADO.EDU Todd Murray
mwa...@xmission.com Mel Walker
nat...@cam.org Luc Marcil
NHER...@iic.lib.umn.edu Nancy Herther
ni...@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri
nor...@netcom.com Jon Noring
NSCA...@alpha.nsula.edu
o...@crl.com Mary O'Connell
OD...@ttacs1.ttu.edu
oli...@CS.Berkeley.EDU Oliver Sharp
o...@netcom.com Bob Olodort
oo...@clark.net Oscar O. Lawson II
oo...@MR.Net roman
ot...@sol.acs.unt.edu M. Otto
oui...@eci1.ucsb.edu Ken J. Ouimet
ow...@MIT.EDU Owen Hughes
o...@davinci.reading.MA.US Opportunity With Learning
pad...@psych.ut.ee Taavi Padjus
p...@orville.ho.bom.gov.au Paul Hettrick
pal...@CERF.NET L. Merrill Palmer
Panel...@aol.com
par...@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
par...@commodities.com Thomas Parker
p...@lunch.engr.sgi.com Paul Close
pers...@ahecbc.ahec.edu Vivian Pershing
pie...@shell.portal.com Pierre Uszynski
pie...@uclink.berkeley.edu Christopher Deleo
Pi...@ix.netcom.com Thomas Peerbolt
pmac...@hookup.net Peter MacDonald
pola....@friendz.cts.com Pola Wojcik
Porter...@msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark
pp00...@interramp.com Ed Nazarko
pro...@pcnet.com Packaging Plus Services
pur...@atlanta.com Michael Purcell
Q2...@UNB.CA Marlene Allen
qt...@mailbox.syr.edu June R. Quackenbush
ra...@mucc.mahidol.ac.th RARC
r...@osceola.cs.ucf.edu Bob Thrush
r...@moontarz.nuance.com Ryan Waldron
RICKH...@delphi.com
rmir...@garnet.msen.com Rogelio Miramontes
rne...@media.mit.edu Ron Newman
ROBE...@PHYSC3.BYU.EDU Jim Robertson
rtu...@cix.compulink.co.uk Robert Tusler
ru...@cis.ohio-state.edu Daniel J Rubin
ru...@infinet.com Danial Rubin
ruf...@cae.wisc.edu
rwh...@metronet.com Robert White
sac7...@saclink1.csus.edu Mohammad F. Musazay
SalW...@aol.com
san...@interaccess.com
sa...@nodelink.com
Sba...@aol.com
scar...@wam.umd.edu Jonathan Smith
SCHW...@delphi.com
s...@gamma.dou.dk Stuart D. Brorson
s...@universe.digex.net Derek R. Spencer
ser...@spdc.ti.com Mike Serafin
Sha...@aol.com
sha...@hpanlp.an.hp.com Sharon Gadonniex
shr...@earthlink.net
sieb...@wharton.upenn.edu HIDDE SIEBURGH SJOERD
skr...@summit.novell.com Rich Skrenta
slan...@KaPRE.COM Steve Lanaghen
s...@oro.net Scott Jennings
spe...@Unify.Com Bob Speray
s...@cnj.digex.net Sanford Jacobs
Sspe...@aol.com
ste...@ozonline.com.au Chris Stebbing
ste...@seanet.com Michael Steding
step...@rmii.com David Stephens
st...@chambers.ak.planet.co.nz Steve Chambers
st...@michaels.demon.co.uk Steve
ste...@gadget.eng.hou.compaq.com Steven Knodl
ste...@pipeline.com Steve Siegel
steve_...@msmail2.wes.mot.com Hershey-ASH001 Steve
st...@marlin.ssnet.com Don Melvin
stuart....@uninova.com Stuart Whitmore
suga...@world.std.com Steven Garman
SWIL...@delphi.com SALLY WILLARD
syl...@eskimo.com Sylvie McGee
tbr...@peregrine.bus.BrockU.CA Tom Bryant
tegt...@panix.com John R. Tegtmeier
te...@PrimeNet.Com Terra Goodnight
tgo...@unicomp.net
thie...@gold.tc.umn.edu
tho...@aur.alcatel.com Pamela Thomas (SVT)
thom...@dgs.dgsys.com Tom Whittaker
ti...@nucleus.com Tim Bushko
tme...@infi.net Tony Meade
tomw...@well.sf.ca.us Tom White
tppo...@DGS.dgsys.com Tom Powers
tsim...@PICA.ARMY.MIL Thomas E. Simkins" (CCAC-BENET)
t_...@ix.netcom.com Tony Ohe
uda...@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk Silver Omega
urka...@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Bob Kastigar
VAN...@ASU.EDU
ver...@hpsfecid.mayfield.hp.com VRB
Victori...@macstand.com Victoria Posner
vin...@wentworth.com
Voic...@aol.com
VON1...@delphi.com
vu2...@navier.ucsb.edu Sitaram Ramaswamy
vx!squid!s...@uunet.uu.net Stephen Potter
wad...@POSC.org David Waddell
wake...@metronet.com Charles A Wakeland
we...@dss1.austin.ibm.com Craig Weeks
whou...@Cybernetics.NET Bill Houston
wik...@usmssmtp.us.ohio-state.edu Wiksell, Parker
wil...@genius.demon.co.uk William Tunstall-Pedoe
w...@hadady.com Wayne M. Hadady
wri...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us H Lee Richardson
xt...@trentu.ca Kate Gregory
ya...@halcyon.com Mark Gordon Foss
ylwm...@cyberstore.ca Les Symes
yor...@garnet.msen.com Steve Arlow
zer...@ix.netcom.com meksikatsi
zieb...@earth.execpc.com Ken Ziebert
zimm...@summa4.MV.COM Uwe Zimmermann

Voted No
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ben...@maths.lth.se Bengt Larsson
bken...@sybase.com William Kennedy
cl...@midway.uchicago.edu Cory L. Scott
crou...@flidh103.delcoelect.com Kenneth P Crouch
dar...@maths.tcd.ie
e...@panix.com Emery Lapinski
g942...@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca Craig Burley
gt5...@prism.gatech.edu Pete 'Happy' Thomas
Helmut...@IWR.Uni-Heidelberg.De Helmut Geyer
j...@rain.org Jay Hennigan
jcmu...@cadman.cit.buffalo.edu Jeff Murphy
jimd...@ix.netcom.com Jim Drake
jjli...@interlog.com J.J. Linden
kru...@halcyon.com Dennis Krueger
mar...@li.net Martin Fries
na...@netcom.com John Nagle
p...@dale.dircon.co.uk
ptb...@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien
radr...@panix.com Rebecca Drayer
REPT...@delphi.com
rho...@ndlc.occ.uky.edu Jerry Rhodes
ri...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
sha...@faceplant.gvg.TEK.COM The Great Pumpkin
sma...@turing.toronto.edu Smarasderagd
stai...@bga.com Dwight Brown
t...@well.sf.ca.us Tae Chun - World Marketing Network
una....@yale.edu Una Smith
xl...@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca Willy Congson

Abstained
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m...@RedBrick.COM M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS


Votes in error
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a009...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us Paul Regan
! Conflicting votes
dos...@xmission.com David Oswald
! Conflicting votes
gh...@cornell.edu gary harper
! No vote statement in message
ro...@hercules.cb.att.com Daniel Joseph Rubin
! Invalid address
sy...@nodelink.com
! Invalid address

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