In seeking adjustments to the education law known as No Child Left Behind,
the Obama administration is again casting itself as an agent of change vs.
the status quo -- in this case a status quo in which most schools struggle
to meet the requirements of the act.
Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Sunday that if No Child Left Behind
isn't changed, four of five schools won't meet its standards.
"Under the current law, it's one size fits all," Duncan said. "We need to
fix this law now, so we can close the achievement gap."
Obama plans to call for more flexibility within the law during remarks
today at Kenmore Middle School in Arlington, Va. His speech is scheduled
for 10:40 a.m.
"We need to make sure we're graduating students who are ready for college
and a career," President Obama said. "In the 21st century, it's not enough
to leave no child behind. We need to help every child get ahead. We need
to get every child on a path to academic excellence."
The White House sent out a list of differences between its changes and the
law's "status quo":
NCLB Status Quo: Rely on unsophisticated bubble tests to grade students
and schools.
The Obama Plan: Support better tests. The Obama Administration has
invested $350 million to support states in their efforts to create more
sophisticated assessment systems that measure problem solving and other
21st century skills and that will provide teachers will timely information
to help them improve instruction.
NCLB Status Quo: Teachers and principals don't get credit for improving
student scores.
The Obama Plan: Replace the current pass-fail school grading system with a
system that rewards teachers, principals and schools for showing they've
helped students improve and doesn't just judge them for how students did
on one test on one day.
NCLB Status Quo: States lowered standards to meet yearly goals under No
Child Left Behind. Often, students graduating from high school need
remedial courses in college.
The Obama Plan: Support efforts of the nation's governors and State
education leaders to adopt college and career ready standards so when kids
go to college they won't need to take remedial courses.
NCLB Status Quo: A narrow curriculum focused only reading and math.
The Obama Plan: Invest in state and local efforts to develop a well-
rounded curriculum and allow states to include subjects beyond reading and
math in their accountability system.
NCLB Status Quo: Schools that are doing well often get mislabeled as
"failing" under No Child Left Behind's broken accountability system.
The Obama Plan: Offer greater flexibility to states and school districts
in identifying areas of improvement and strategies for addressing poor
performance, while requiring more meaningful change in the most
challenging schools.
NCLB Status Quo: Too often the schools with the greatest challenges don't
have the most effective teachers.
The Obama Plan: Provide incentives and accountability for getting
effective teachers to the schools that need them the most, and identifying
and leaning from the most effective teachers.
NCLB Status Quo: The federal government prescribes "one size fits all"
solutions.
The Obama Plan: Do away with unnecessary federal mandates and increase
local control to pursue solutions focused on results. If schools aren't
meeting targets, improvement strategies need to be locally crafted to
address the problems in those schools.
NCLB Status Quo: No Child Left Behind does not promote or reward
innovation in schools.
The Obama Plan: Support competitive grant programs that reward states and
schools for changing the system by improving how they get the best
teachers in the classroom, extending the school day and year, supporting
the creation of smarter tests, using data to improve practice, and raising
standards for all kids.
NCLB Status Quo: Our nation's lowest-performing schools lack the resources
and reforms needed to improve.
The Obama Plan: Invest in ambitious and bold efforts to transform our
nation's lowest achieving schools, while demanding new and dramatic change
in their leadership and reforms to teaching and learning at those schools.
NCLB Status Quo: Parents are often under-engaged in their child's
education, and schools are often unwelcoming of parents.
The Obama Plan: Double the federal investment in family engagement and
provide new incentives for schools to develop innovative ways to engage
parents and community members.
NCLB Status Quo: States often lack the resources to support and address
the unique challenges of rural schools.
The Obama Plan: Support innovation and reform directed at rural
challenges. Support the funding necessary for these schools to better use
technology in the classroom and address the challenge of recruiting and
retaining effective teachers and principals.
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Obama's black racist USAG appointee.
Eric Holder, racist black United States Attorney General drops voter
intimidation charges against the Black Panthers, "You are about to be
ruled by the black man, cracker!"
Eric Holder, prejudiced black United States Attorney General settles the
hate crime debate, "Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws."
Nancy Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
York's million dollar tax evasion. On December 3, 2010, Congress voted to
censure Rangel for 11 ethics violations. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
fought removal of Charles B. Rangel from the House Ways and Means
Committee.
Felony President. 18 USC, Sec. 600. Promise of employment or other
benefit for political activity
Obama violated the law by trying to buy Joe Sestak off with a political
appointment in exchange for not pursuing an election bid to replace Arlen
Specter. Obama violated the law by trying to buy former Colorado House
Speaker Andrew Romanoff off last fall to see if he'd be interested in an
administration job -- instead of running against Sen. Michael Bennet.
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That's the public school system in a nutshell, and could be fixed with
school choice that would spawn all sorts of specialty schools that would
vastly improve education. But we can't do that because of the corrupt
relationship between democrats and the NEA. Just another reason to hate
democrats and unions.
-Eddie Haskell
Beats paying them to breed like democrats have us doing.
-Eddie Haskell
That excuse is code for that's what the stupid thing democrats told me to
say to oppose school choice that would provide competition that the NEA
doesn't want and pays democrats to prevent.
It's also code for being anti-choice.
> That would lead to the end of public education in the USA.
So? Admission that the schools that would crop up to compete would blow most
public schools out of the water. Again, you shill for the NEA and the DNC
for government cheese.
> Of course, that is what the right wing is trying to do.
People like you are particularly offensive in that you don't believe or give
a shit about anything you just said. All you are is shill for the fucking
DNC at the expense of education in the US. You merely parrot what they spoon
fed you. Democrats, corrupt from top to bottom.
When I think of how vastly we could improve education in this country except
for corrupt cocksuckers like you..
You are hated.
Oh, and we can't drill in ANWAR because it wouldn't supply all our needs and
would take 6 - 8 years to produce, right, fuckwit?
-Eddie Haskell
Iddie and Leroy -- a match made in wingnut heaven.
'If we allow vouchers, the religious schools will cherry pick the best
students and reject those who are struggling.'
I guess Eddie couldn't respond to that so he snipped it like the
cowardly right-wing loon that he is. All he does is parrot right-wing
propaganda from Rush, Glenn, and the others who are trying to undermine
the middle class and make the rich even richer.
The religious raghead schools will take the stupid ones who have a penchant
for violence.
The idea that you live in the capitalist US and have missed the fact that
the free market rises up to meet demand is so impossible to believe that you
have to be lying straight trough your teeth. School choice would produce
schools for special needs kids as well as schools that cater to the gifted
so they wouldn't be held back in your one size fits all monopoly failure.
But you don't give a shit about that. You support democrats because of what
you stand to gain personally at the expanse of the whole but can't openly
admit to. That's why you shamelessly parrot the STUPID excuse lies that they
spoon-fed you. Opposition to the idea that a parent who has a choice might
choose a religious school is asinine, intolerant and bigoted on the face of
it. Thanks for the demonstration.
You'll note, folks, the incredible irony of Dakota here complaining that I
failed to address this one part his post the first go-round while he just
deleted everything I said before, failing to address a syllable of it.
That's because he can't debate me. He doesn't have a side. He's a democrat.
None of them can debate conservatives. That's why they resort almost
exclusively to lies, smears and character assassination, and the case of
Dakota here, asinine and STUPID made up arguments that he picked up from the
DNC that only prove what a bunch of intolerant bigots they are.
Again, thanks for the demonstration, Dakota, you pathetic DNC lackey.
Now, go ahead and tell us that we can't drill in ANWAR because it might take
6 - 8 years like you did in 1995 when Clinton vetoed it on behalf of the
environmentalist lobby and their campaign contributions, just like you
oppose school choice on belief on the NEA who pays democrats the big bucks
to prevent competition - big bucks that get funneled into democrat coffers
under the guise of "money for education" that is provided by the tax payer,
including republicans, in your corrupt money laundering schemes. You
worthless vermin represent a level of corruption that this country cannot
long survive..
-Eddie Haskell
Obama has shut down offshore drilling after lying and claiming that he was
lifting the ban along with fulfilling his promise to shut down the coal
industry.
But you just keep shilling for the lower standard of living Hussein wants
you to have. It's not fair to other nations that we are rich after all.
And the sooner you understand that that is what he is all about the better,
naive moron.
-Eddie Haskell
The PRICES in the free market in the capitalist US rise until the
demand drops.
In the free market, the religious schools have not needed vouchers for
the couple of hundred years they've been around, but now they've
gotten so expensive that people want a government subsidy for their
kids to be taught their religion.
Most NON-religious private schools are even more expensive (and more
expensive than the public schools as well).
>School choice would produce schools for special needs kids
There *are* schools for special needs kids, where their condition and
educational needs warrant segregation from the general student
population.
lojbab
---
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That was all the rage a while back but the markets deemed it unfeasible.
Besides, if that was started on a wide scale then Hussein would find a way
to make it prohibitively expense.
Grow a brain. Hussein wants the US standard of living to be diminished.
Why do you think he supported and attended that racist -> anti American <-
church for over twenty years?
Pull your head out of your ass, moron.
-Eddie Haskell
Utter bullshit. Private schools do a better job than public ones and at a
cheaper cost. That's a fact.
http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2007/10/private-school-tuition-13-to-12-less.html
Shall we apply these same facts to Husseincare now?
>>School choice would produce schools for special needs kids
>
> There *are* schools for special needs kids, where their condition and
> educational needs warrant segregation from the general student
> population.
Few and far between in the public sector and you have to get very lucky to
get in. School choice would open up an untapped demand and educational
improvement and specialized education based on need would flourish.
This is not debatable for anyone other than a DNC shill or a communist
admirer of the old Soviet Union.
-Eddie Haskell
An example of lying with statistics.
The chart gives Catholic schools, other religious schools, all private
schools, and public schools. It omits the critical data for the claim
I made, which is for non-religious private schools (it is also from
2006, and hence is now obsolete)
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d09/tables/dt09_059.asp?referrer=list
shows that for 2007-2008, the numbers for private schools (all grade
levels) are:
Catholic $6,018
other religious $7,117
non-religious $17,316
giving an average for all private schools of $8,549.
The non-religious private schools cost twice as much as the average of
all private schools. But since religious schools have several times
the enrollment, the weighted average going into the "all private
schools" isn't representative of the non-religious market.
As for quality of education, that is disputable. Certainly the elite
private schools are competitive with the selective elite public
schools. But they also cost several times as much in tuition.
Voucher program results are debatable, especially since by definition,
those who are in voucher schools are "self-selected" by their parents
http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2008/03/05/26voucher.h27.html
<The one-year snapshot of 2006-07 found little difference in state test
< scores between students who use the tuition subsidies to attend
< private schools and those who attend public schools.
Voucher schools have higher graduation rates, but it isn't clear
whether it is the education or the self-selection (or some other
factor) that makes the difference).
>Shall we apply these same facts to Husseincare now?
Since the new health care law is only partially implemented so far,
that would be a bit premature (and has nothing to do with education
quality, in any event, and there is no real comparison to educational
vouchers since the health care law mostly adds regulation to private
systems, and doesn't displace them with public ones).
For kids in their lower 20s who have no health insurance through their
jobs (most of them), being covered by their parents insurance plans is
a major boon.
If you wish to compare single payer government-financed (which is NOT
what was passed) vs unregulated private market systems, you can look
at the significantly higher average life expectancies, and lower
infant mortality rates in nations with such government systems.
>>>School choice would produce schools for special needs kids
>>
>> There *are* schools for special needs kids, where their condition and
>> educational needs warrant segregation from the general student
>> population.
>
>Few and far between in the public sector and you have to get very lucky to
>get in.
Not if your student's IEP requires it.
>This is not debatable for anyone other than a DNC shill or a communist
>admirer of the old Soviet Union.
I am neither, being an independent centrist who had no significant
affection for either communism or the Soviet Union.
.......................
>>>>> "Under the current law, it's one size fits all
>>>> That's the public school system in a nutshell, and could be fixed with
>>>> school choice that would spawn all sorts of specialty schools that would
>>>> vastly improve education. But we can't do that because of the corrupt
>>>> relationship between democrats and the NEA. Just another reason to hate
>>>> democrats and unions.
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>> School choice is just a code for vouchers that support religious schools.
I have no brief for religious schools; they have even worse
problems in some respects than the public schools. But the
educationists started out about 75 years ago with the aim of
having all children, regardless of ability, background, etc.,
learn essentially the same at each age level.
If there had been affordable academic schools back then, the
public schools would have changed back in a decade. But this
was the Great Depression, and this was not the case.
To get back to the problem, the above is still the goal. So
the teachers have to spend lots of time to get those with
little ability up to a "par"; this causes a decline in what
the average student gets, the bright student is bored most
of the time, and the gifted one is turned off after the
first few days. The religious schools may be doing a little
better by eliminating those who cannot really do the grade
anyhow, but are not much better.
We must aim to educate children according to their ability,
NOT their age, aand the difference is much greater than you
seem able to consider. It also requires getting rid of the
"drill and kill" material on the "objective" tests, which
indicate nothing of the understanding of the concepts.
We can teach those who should go to college all the concepts
in mathematics, language, and the sciences well before the
age at which they are now allowed to graduate, but not by
attempting to "develop" the concepts. Infants have a fair
amount of conceptual ability, and much of this native ability
is kicked out by the educationists. It took millennia to
develop the concept of the alpahbet, but we teach it from the
beginning now. It took millennia to see that there are many
concepts for the set of integers, and even to find some of
them at a working level. I propose that much of this be
taught in first grade; few teachers understand these very
simple concepts, and have difficulty learning it. Learning
to do mechanical arithmetic does not help, and I believe it
hinders; learning language by the aural-oral method, likewise.
So we need to teach children according to their individual
abilities, and impose financial penalities on those who hold
them back, especially by age. The public schools now, and
the similar religious schools not, will be hard pressed if
we ever institute it. We will need academic private schools
at most levels.
>> That excuse is code for that's what the stupid thing democrats told me to
>> say to oppose school choice that would provide competition that the NEA
>> doesn't want and pays democrats to prevent.
>> It's also code for being anti-choice.
>>> That would lead to the end of public education in the USA.
Not quite. Public schools do not have to be so bad, and most
will eventually reform.
>> So? Admission that the schools that would crop up to compete would blow most
>> public schools out of the water. Again, you shill for the NEA and the DNC
>> for government cheese.
It is not admission to schools, but admission to programs.
The public schools are now committed to a one-size-fits-all
program, at least at the elementary school level. It is not
too much better at higher levels.
And there will have to be programs for those who cannot keep
up in a subject. Repeating is not the way to do it.
>>> Of course, that is what the right wing is trying to do.
>> People like you are particularly offensive in that you don't believe or give
>> a shit about anything you just said. All you are is shill for the fucking
>> DNC at the expense of education in the US. You merely parrot what they spoon
>> fed you. Democrats, corrupt from top to bottom.
> I care about education that's why I'm against the right-wingers who are
> trying to destroy it.
No, you care about preserving the poor substitute for
education being provided by the public schools.
We will need teachers who understand their subjects, and
have not been taught how to miseducate by the current
schools of education. One cannot retrain those teachers;
how many of them can be untrained and educated?
>> When I think of how vastly we could improve education in this country except
>> for corrupt cocksuckers like you..
>> You are hated.
>> Oh, and we can't drill in ANWAR because it wouldn't supply all our needs and
>> would take 6 - 8 years to produce, right, fuckwit?
> Eddie can't stay on topic I guess.
>> -Eddie Haskell
> Why did Eddie snip part of my post? Here's what Eddie snipped:
> 'If we allow vouchers, the religious schools will cherry pick the best
> students and reject those who are struggling.'
Read my response above. I do not care about the religious
schools, which are not that much better, and the struggling
students and those who are even harder behind need different
programs. Age doesn't count; it is ability, availability of
other sources, and other environmental effects which matter
in determining how a child should be educated.
The student struggling in one subject might be a genius in
another.
> I guess Eddie couldn't respond to that so he snipped it like the
> cowardly right-wing loon that he is. All he does is parrot right-wing
> propaganda from Rush, Glenn, and the others who are trying to undermine
> the middle class and make the rich even richer.
You are wrong. I come from the poor, and the educationists
tried hard to keep me back. My experience in the schools,
the experiences of my children, and the decay of students in
my decades of teaching, as well as some other things, all
lead in the direction of NOT trying to teach to "all", but
to teach according to the abilities of the individual. They
also lead to realizing the importance of understanding, rather
than memorizing facts and routine methods.
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are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
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hru...@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558
There are not; there are schools for socially difficult
children, but the mentatlly deficient and mentally strong
are not even considered in 99% of the school districts.
> lojbab
> ---
> Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
> loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org
You're a liar, Iddie.
BRAACK!
It's not deficit spending. It's "investments."
BRAACK!
I hope you're stockpiling SPAM and bottled water while you play your stupid
little fucking games in service to your DNC masters, you fucking stupid
toady.
-Eddie Haskell
You're lying.
> This is the last time though. Plonk.
Fuck off and die, prick.
-Eddie Haskell
On Mar 15, 7:48 pm, Gary Sokolisch <SokolischSpe...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:33:40 -0500, Dakota wrote:
> > On Tue 3/15/11 17:05, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> >> "Dakota"<ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:a5KdnT-mOvh...@giganews.com...
> >>> On Tue 3/15/11 16:05, Eddie Haskell wrote:
> >>>> "Leroy N. Soetoro"<leroysoet...@usurper.org> wrote in message
> >>>>news:Xns9EA978D01A...@202.177.16.121...
> >>>>>http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/03/obama-se...