"KAGUYA"(SELENE), the big flop and nothing Apollo
BradGuth
moon at an angle of just 1 degree and there’s no bounce, skip or
hardly if any gouge, perhaps because the surface of this impact site
was simply way too soft, as in tens of meters deep kind of crystal dry
and electrostatic charged carbonado and basalt dust that’s saturated
in all kinds of local minerals (including sodium) plus countless
meteorite deposits.
Lots of private astronomy equipment had to be pointed at the carefully
specified impact site, with more than enough resolution and terrific
dynamic range, not to mention the ten fold better stuff at the
disposal of NASA, or the ten fold better yet from team KECK, or for
that matter the greatly improved resolution, dynamic range and wide
spectrum from Hubble. Of course at least the HDTV and its full color
spectrum via KAGUYA should have functioned up to a fraction of a
second or a frame or two prior to impact.
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at. Way to go JASA, NASA
and other guys.
~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”
BradGuth
Here’s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better can do, and KECK at least
100 fold better, as well as each of these in full/extended color
saturation.
~ BG
namekuseijin
Where are the stars?! It's pitch black! That image is clearly a fake!
ok, sarcasm aside I too would think the Hubble would be able to spot a
step on the surface of the Moon. It can see objects 9 billion
light-years aways but not this close??!
OTOH, I'm no astronomer nor optics specialist...
BradGuth
"KAGUYA"(SELENE) encounters our physically dark and extremely dusty
moon at an angle of just 1 degree, and there’s no bounce, skip or
hardly if any gouge, perhaps because the surface of this impact site
was simply way too soft, as in tens of meters deep kind of crystal dry
and electrostatic charged carbonado and basalt dust that’s saturated
in all kinds of local minerals (including sodium) plus countless
meteorite deposits.
Lots of terrific private astronomy equipment had to have been pointed
at the carefully specified impact site with more than enough
resolution and absolutely terrific dynamic range, not to mention the
ten fold better stuff at the disposal of NASA, or the ten fold better
yet from team KECK, or for that matter the greatly improved
resolution, dynamic range and wide spectrum capability from Hubble.
Of course at least the HDTV and its full color spectrum via KAGUYA
should have functioned all the way up to a fraction of a second or a
couple frames prior to impact.
And what about all of those better TC (terrain camera) images for the
past 4 months while orbiting at 50 km, of resolution near 5 meters and
exceptional dynamic range?
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at. Way to go JAXA, ISAS,
NASA and other guys.
Here’s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better can do, and KECK at least
100 fold better, as well as each of these in full/extended color
saturation so that mineral elements and any impact created vapors can
be deductively extrapolated. Not to mention the JAXA/Selene X-Ray
fluorescence spectrometer (XRS) and Gamma ray spectrometer (GRS).
BradGuth
wrote:
Yourself and all the other brown-nosed clowns of your kind know the
physics and the math that's scientifically peer replicated, which
clearly makes you another Zionist Nazi lover. Everything you've ever
contributed is proof positive of exactly what you are, because not
even a 5th grade moron can be that snookered and dumbfounded past the
point of no return.
So, why are you telling us such lies upon lies by way of obfuscation,
and by otherwise intentionally suggesting what was never the case?
Ever heard of dynamic range?
Ever heard of bandpass optical filters?
Ever heard of the CCD/CMOS imager spectral range?
Ever hear of PhotoShop or computer extrapolated images?
Would you like to see some amateur color images of our Selene/moon?
Would you like to see planets along with our moon in the same FOV?
Would you like to see our moon, sun and Venus all in the same FOV?
How about sharing a satellite shot of our moon along with the
absolutely vibrant and bluish plus unavoidable UV worth of the Sirius
star system?
Are you suggesting that our naked Selene/moon has no viable minerals
or unusual elements, and that nothing of this lunar surface is the
least bit UV reactive or otherwise capable of generating secondary/
recoil photons?
~ BG
BradGuth
hardly if any gouge, perhaps because the surface of this impact site
was simply way too soft, as in tens of meters deep kind of crystal dry
and electrostatic charged carbonado and basalt dust that’s saturated
in all kinds of local minerals (including sodium) plus countless
meteorite deposits.
Lots of terrific private astronomy equipment had to have been pointed
at the carefully specified impact site, and with more than enough
resolution and absolutely terrific dynamic range, not to mention the
ten fold better stuff at the disposal of NASA, or the hundred fold
better yet from team KECK, or for that matter the greatly improved
resolution, dynamic range and wide color/hue spectrum capability from
Hubble. Of course at least the HDTV and its full color spectrum via
KAGUYA should have functioned all the way up to a fraction of a second
or a couple frames prior to impact.
And what about all of those better TC (terrain camera) images for the
past 4 months while orbiting at 50 km, of resolution near 5 meters and
exceptional dynamic range?
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at. Way to go JAXA, ISAS,
NASA and other guys.
Here’s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
http://djsenn.podbean.com/wp-content/blogs5/84262/uploads/moon_color_1.jpg
NASA color/hue over-saturated image:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0602/Mooncolor060110schedler_35.jpg
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better can do, and KECK at least
100 fold better, as well as each of these in full/extended color
saturation so that mineral elements and any impact created vapors can
be deductively extrapolated. Not to mention the JAXA/Selene X-Ray
fluorescence spectrometer (XRS) and Gamma ray spectrometer (GRS). I’m
told that Japan has nifty telescopes too, but apparently theirs are
only braille scopes that at best can only detect monochrome. And what
about the somewhat secretive ISRO Chandrayaan-1 mission that’s
entirely run by 5th graders that can’t quite figure out how the
internet works?
Of course there is always the warm and fuzzy mainstream gauntlet of
brown-nosed clowns that by rights should know the physics and the math
of observationology science that's perfectly peer replicated, of which
their perpetual denials and obfuscation is what clearly makes them
part of the DARPA and NASA ruse/sting of our mutually perpetrated cold-
war century. Everything they've ever contributed is proof positive of
exactly what they are, because not even 5th grade morons can be that
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return.
So, why are these folks telling us such blatant lies upon lies by way
of such obfuscation (excluding evidence), and by otherwise
intentionally suggesting otherwise as to what was never the case?
Ever heard of photographic dynamic range?
Ever heard of bandpass optical filters or coated optics?
Ever heard of using the CCD/CMOS imager spectral range?
Ever hear of using PhotoShop or computer extrapolated images?
Would you like to see some amateur color images of our Selene/moon?
Would you like to see planets along with our moon in the same FOV?
Would you like to see our moon, sun and Venus all in the same FOV?
How about sharing a satellite shot (FOV) of our physically dark but
fully illuminated moon along with the absolutely vibrant and bluish
plus unavoidable UV worth of the Sirius star system?
Are they suggesting that our naked Selene/moon is highly reflective
and otherwise has no viable minerals or unusual elements, and that
nothing of this lunar surface is the least bit UV reactive or
otherwise capable of generating secondary/recoil photons of any color/
hue saturation kind?
namekuseijin
what? I don't quite get the argument you're trying to make, too noisy
and over-the-top. And I was even agreeing with you on the desire for
better shots.
That picture I linked to still sports no stars. Ah, perhaps the guy
deleted them on Photoshop, was that your point? ;)
--
a game sig: http://tinyurl.com/d3rxz9
BradGuth
With whatever methods of PhotoShop, you can even eliminate a fully
illuminated Earth from a given FOV (frame of view) that has our
physically dark Selene/moon and its otherwise black horizon to deal
with. A 5th grader could do this much, and you'd be none the wiser,
because it so easy to restrict or skew the dynamic range as well as to
transpose digital pixels into whatever you like or into whatever makes
you a happy camper.
It's also freaking easy to use a narrow bandpass optical lens coating
or filter element in order to exclude all UV as well as to moderate or
exclude violet, purple and even some blue. Thrust me, it's not even
rocket science.
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at. Way to go JAXA, ISAS,
NASA and other guys.
Here’s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
http://djsenn.podbean.com/wp-content/blogs5/84262/uploads/moon_color_1.jpg
NASA color/hue over-saturated image:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0602/Mooncolor060110schedler_35.jpg
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better can do, and KECK at least
100 fold better, as well as each of these in full/extended color
saturation so that mineral elements and any impact created vapors can
be deductively extrapolated. Not to mention the JAXA/Selene X-Ray
fluorescence spectrometer (XRS) and Gamma ray spectrometer (GRS). I’m
told that Japan has nifty telescopes too, but apparently theirs are
only braille scopes that at best can only detect monochrome. And what
about the somewhat secretive ISRO Chandrayaan-1 mission that’s
entirely run by 5th graders that can’t quite figure out how the
internet works?
With such modern CCD imagers and their extremely goof DR plus wide
spectrum capability, it should be next to impossible to get a moon
shot without planets and even a few stars.
~ BG
namekuseijin
> On Jun 12, 10:24 am, namekuseijin <namekusei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> BradGuth escreveu:
>>> On Jun 12, 12:00 am, namekuseijin <namekuseijin.nos...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> http://www.avertedimagination.com/images/northern_panorama_small.jpg
>>>> Where are the stars?! It's pitch black! That image is clearly a fake!
>>>> ok, sarcasm aside I too would think the Hubble would be able to spot a
>>>> step on the surface of the Moon. It can see objects 9 billion
>>>> light-years aways but not this close??!
>>>> OTOH, I'm no astronomer nor optics specialist...
>>> Yourself and all the other brown-nosed clowns of your kind know the
>> That picture I linked to still sports no stars. Ah, perhaps the guy
>> deleted them on Photoshop, was that your point? ;)
>
> illuminated Earth from a given FOV (frame of view) that has our
> physically dark Selene/moon and its otherwise black horizon to deal
> with. A 5th grader could do this much, and you'd be none the wiser,
> because it so easy to restrict or skew the dynamic range as well as to
> transpose digital pixels into whatever you like or into whatever makes
> you a happy camper.
>
> It's also freaking easy to use a narrow bandpass optical lens coating
> or filter element in order to exclude all UV as well as to moderate or
> exclude violet, purple and even some blue. Thrust me, it's not even
> rocket science.
>
> NASA and other guys.
>
> Here�s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
> http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
> http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
> http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
> http://djsenn.podbean.com/wp-content/blogs5/84262/uploads/moon_color_1.jpg
You do realize the moon shot in the link up there I gave is exactly from
this private astronomer you're trumpeting, right? Are you telling me he
removed the stars in the background on Photoshop? Why would he do that?
Indeed why would you want to link to pictures from a guy who would do
that?
Or, alas, should we simply accept that our "physically dark Selene/moon"
is so bright that when you take a shot at it, less bright objects by
contrast simply disappear from view -- like stars? Like when you take a
shot against a bright background with no flash and the background is
pretty much all that appears, against your dark silhouette...
BradGuth
> > NASA and other guys.
>
> > Here’s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
> > http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
> > http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
> > http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
>
> You do realize the moon shot in the link up there I gave is exactly from
> this private astronomer you're trumpeting, right? Are you telling me he
> removed the stars in the background on Photoshop? Why would he do that?
> Indeed why would you want to link to pictures from a guy who would do
> that?
>
> Or, alas, should we simply accept that our "physically dark Selene/moon"
> is so bright that when you take a shot at it, less bright objects by
> contrast simply disappear from view -- like stars? Like when you take a
> shot against a bright background with no flash and the background is
> pretty much all that appears, against your dark silhouette...
>
> --
> a game sig:http://tinyurl.com/d3rxz9
As I said, ignore all the proof-positive of other existing images that
a 5th grader can find (though I'll gladly help in your case) that more
than proves otherwise, especially if that makes you and others of your
Zionist Nazi kind happy campers. It's called denial and obfuscation,
and you're doing it real good.
As I said, there are ways to even exclude Earth if it were in the same
FOV. Using a limited dynamic range, as little as 6 db or 6 f-stops is
another way of getting a terrific moon shot with hardly anything else,
and of course if there's no other planet nearby is also perfectly
understandable. You do know that Venus isn't a star, don't you?
~ BG
Hagar
"namekuseijin" <nameku...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:h0ub7l$b1$1...@adenine.netfront.net...
>> NASA and other guys.
>>
>> Here�s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
>> http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
>> http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
>> http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
>>
>> http://djsenn.podbean.com/wp-content/blogs5/84262/uploads/moon_color_1.jpg
>
> You do realize the moon shot in the link up there I gave is exactly from
> this private astronomer you're trumpeting, right? Are you telling me he
> removed the stars in the background on Photoshop? Why would he do that?
> Indeed why would you want to link to pictures from a guy who would do
> that?
>
> Or, alas, should we simply accept that our "physically dark Selene/moon"
> is so bright that when you take a shot at it, less bright objects by
> contrast simply disappear from view -- like stars? Like when you take a
> shot against a bright background with no flash and the background is
> pretty much all that appears, against your dark silhouette...
>
> --
> a game sig: http://tinyurl.com/d3rxz9
Have you not yet figured out that you are attempting to engage in an
intelligent exchange with a total moron ????
namekuseijin
> Have you not yet figured out that you are attempting to engage in an
> intelligent exchange with a total moron ????
Yes, it seems impossible. I wonder if he's one of sanny's chatbots or
just out of medication...
BradGuth
wrote:
And your real name, real phone number and real address is?
~ BG
Hagar
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a7c13068-4b2f-414a...@d38g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
~ BG
*** You are demented, ain't cha .....
BradGuth
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
What's "demented" about asking for your real name, phone number and
address?
It seems only the most devout Zionist Nazis like yourself would have
anything to worry about.
~ BG
BradGuth
effort there’s nothing Apollo, but who really cares if our DARPA and
NASA have been telling us fibs?
"KAGUYA"(SELENE) encounters our physically dark and extremely dusty
moon at an angle of just 1 degree, and oddly there’s no bounce, skip
or hardly if any gouge, as though the surface of this impact site was
simply way too soft, as in tens of meters deep kind of crystal dry and
electrostatic charged carbonado and basalt dust that’s saturated in
all kinds of local minerals (including sodium) plus countless
meteorite deposits along with their secondary shards (aka quicksand).
Lots of terrific private astronomy equipment had to have been pointed
at the carefully specified impact site, with more than enough
resolution and absolutely terrific dynamic range of at least 16 fold
better than film, not to mention another ten fold better stuff at the
disposal of our NASA, or the hundred fold better yet from team KECK,
or for that matter the greatly improved resolution, dynamic range and
wide color/hue spectrum capability from Hubble. Of course at least
the HDTV and its full color spectrum via KAGUYA should have functioned
all the way up to a fraction of a second or a couple frames prior to
impact.
And what about all of those better TC (terrain camera) images from the
previous 4 months while orbiting at 50 km, of resolution near 5 meters
and offering exceptional dynamic range? (no Apollo bright pixels or
modified terrain there either)
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at, and otherwise at best
0.1% of all the other public funded science. Way to go JAXA, ISAS,
NASA and all you other guys (including ISRO).
Here’s one example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
http://djsenn.podbean.com/wp-content/blogs5/84262/uploads/moon_color_1.jpg
NASA color/hue over-saturated image:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0602/Mooncolor060110schedler_35.jpg
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better than amateurs can do, and
of KECK at least 100 fold better, as well as each of these images in
full/extended color saturation along with terrific dynamic range so
that specific mineral elements and any impact created vapors can be
easily imaged and deductively extrapolated. Not to mention the JAXA/
Selene X-Ray fluorescence spectrometer (XRS) and their Gamma ray
spectrometer (GRS). I’m told that Japan has nifty telescopes too, but
apparently theirs are only braille scopes that at best can only detect
monochrome and at relatively piss poor resolution at that. And what
about the somewhat secretive ISRO Chandrayaan-1 mission that’s
entirely run by 5th graders that also can’t quite figure out how the
internet works best?
Of course, there is always the warm and fuzzy mainstream swarm and
subsequent damage-control gauntlet of our Usenet/newsgroup battery of
brown-nosed clowns, that by rights should know the physics and the
math of observationology science that's perfectly peer replicated
(including Kodak), even by those of their very own kind that sees
nothing wrong with their publishing multiple stacked and false
colorized eye-candy, of which their perpetual denials and obfuscation
is what clearly makes them part of the DARPA and NASA ruse/sting of
our mutually perpetrated cold-war century. Everything they've ever
contributed is simply proof positive of exactly what they are and of
who they represent, because not even 5th grade morons can be that
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return.
So, if these clowns are not playing some part in a complex conspiracy,
then why are these folks as spooks and moles of their mainstream cabal
telling us such blatant lies upon lies by way of imposing such
obfuscation (excluding evidence), and by otherwise imposing denial and/
or intentionally suggesting otherwise as to what was never the case?
Ever heard of photographic dynamic range?
Ever heard of bandpass optical filters or coated optics?
Ever heard of using the CCD/CMOS imager spectral range?
Ever hear of using PhotoShop or computer extrapolated images?
Would you like to see some amateur color images of our Selene/moon?
Would you like to see planets along with our moon in the same FOV?
Would you like to see our moon, sun and Venus all in the same FOV?
How about sharing a satellite shot (FOV) of our physically dark but
fully illuminated moon along with the absolutely vibrant and bluish
plus unavoidable UV worth of the Sirius star system? (while orbiting
Selene, how is it even remotely possible to continually exclude this
kind of image, especially of excluding the planet Venus?)
It seems any number of amateur astronomy examples, in spite of our
polluted atmosphere that distorts and filters out certain spectrums
of photons, and yet without image stacking or otherwise false
colorizing have captured our physically dark Selene/moon along with
other planets, and even a few showing a faint star or two that are
nowhere nearly as bright or bluish and UV worthy as Sirius.
Are these clowns suggesting that our naked Selene/moon is actually as
highly reflective and otherwise having no viable minerals or unusual
elements and thereby remains as unusually passive as documented by
their Apollo missions, and thus insisting that nothing of this lunar
surface or of anything artificial is ever the least bit UV reactive or
otherwise capable of generating secondary/recoil photons of any
significant color/hue fluorescence or X-ray and gamma kind?
In other words, do they really expect us to so easily cave in, as
though we outsiders are something less than preschool worthy, and
thereby at best village idiots? (because it really seems to be the
case of our big brother being in charge of everything that matters)
Martin Leese
> *** You are demented, ain't cha .....
Please don't feed the trolls.
Brad Guth has been around for years,
and exists to gain attention.
BradGuth
wrote:
And why exactly do you exist?
What have you contributed on behalf of the greater good to humanity or
that of salvaging our badly failing environment?
~ BG
jacob navia
At least he hasn't done any antisemitic diatribes like you
NAZI
BradGuth
You mean that the actual truth and nothing but the best available
whole truth is automatically “antisemitic”?
How about those horrific crimes against humanity caused by the
Catholic Church? Are those truths anti-Semitic?
How about Islamic/Muslim crimes against humanity; what the hell can
we call them without our being called anti-Semitic?
Obviously you and others of your biased faith-based mindset do not
believe in policing your own kind, so what exactly do we call your
crimes against humanity without our being accused of being anti-
Semitic?
Was your SEC approved Ponzi Madoff a good or bad Jew? Can anything be
said about that conspicuous pervert and his supportive SEC that
wouldn’t be anti-Semitic?
Apparently there’s no upper limits as to how much debauchery a Zionist/
Jew can manage to cheat, lie and steal (even from their own kind),
whereas nothing can be truthfully said without the warm and fuzzy
likes of brown-nosed perverts like yourself crying “antisemitic”.
Why don’t you construct a privately funded and secretly located
maximum security prison (it could even look and function exactly like
a luxury resort that’s perfectly kosher), specifically suited for
pampering those of your own kind, so that the rest of us don’t have to
pay for any of it or otherwise having to look at those bad/despicable
Jews and Zionist Nazis that supposedly do not exist.
~ BG
Jeff Findley
"namekuseijin" <namekusei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:h0uur5$1d5m$1...@adenine.netfront.net...
Either way, killfile Brad Guth so we don't have to see your replies to an
obvious net kook.
Jeff
--
"Take heart amid the deepening gloom
that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National
Lampoon
Jeff Findley
"jacob navia" <ja...@jacob.remcomp.fr> wrote in message
news:h13hrs$b2v$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> BradGuth wrote:
>> What have you contributed on behalf of the greater good to humanity or
>> that of salvaging our badly failing environment?
>
Don't feed the trolls.
BradGuth
wrote:
> "namekuseijin" <namekuseijin.nos...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Speaking for others again, are we?
~ BG
BradGuth
DARPA could have accomplished this via film and large format lens as
of decades ago)
Why not a dynamic range of 20 db or even 24 db? (modern CCDs are
technically good for a whole lot better)
~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”
> http://djsenn.podbean.com/wp-content/blogs5/84262/uploads/moon_color_...
~ BG