Lots of terrific private astronomy equipment had to be pointed at the
carefully specified impact site with more than enough resolution and
terrific dynamic range, not to mention the ten fold better stuff at
the disposal of NASA, or the ten fold better yet from team KECK, or
for that matter the greatly improved resolution, dynamic range and
wide spectrum capability from Hubble. Of course at least the HDTV and
its full color spectrum via KAGUYA should have functioned up to a
fraction of a second or a frame or two prior to impact.
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at. Way to go JAXA, JASA,
NASA and other guys.
Here’s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better can do, and KECK at least
100 fold better, as well as each of these in full/extended color
saturation.
~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”
Lots of terrific private astronomy equipment had to have been pointed
at the carefully specified impact site with more than enough
resolution and absolutely terrific dynamic range, not to mention the
ten fold better stuff at the disposal of NASA, or the ten fold better
yet from team KECK, or for that matter the greatly improved
resolution, dynamic range and wide spectrum capability from Hubble.
Of course at least the HDTV and its full color spectrum via KAGUYA
should have functioned all the way up to a fraction of a second or a
couple frames prior to impact.
And what about all of those better TC (terrain camera) images for the
past 4 months while orbiting at 50 km, of resolution near 5 meters and
exceptional dynamic range?
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at. Way to go JAXA, ISAS,
NASA and other guys.
Here’s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better can do, and KECK at least
100 fold better, as well as each of these in full/extended color
saturation so that mineral elements and any impact created vapors can
be deductively extrapolated. Not to mention the JAXA/Selene X-Ray
fluorescence spectrometer (XRS) and Gamma ray spectrometer (GRS).
Lots of terrific private astronomy equipment had to have been pointed
at the carefully specified impact site, and with more than enough
resolution and absolutely terrific dynamic range, not to mention the
ten fold better stuff at the disposal of NASA, or the hundred fold
better yet from team KECK, or for that matter the greatly improved
resolution, dynamic range and wide color/hue spectrum capability from
Hubble. Of course at least the HDTV and its full color spectrum via
KAGUYA should have functioned all the way up to a fraction of a second
or a couple frames prior to impact.
And what about all of those better TC (terrain camera) images for the
past 4 months while orbiting at 50 km, of resolution near 5 meters and
exceptional dynamic range?
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at. Way to go JAXA, ISAS,
NASA and other guys.
Here’s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
http://djsenn.podbean.com/wp-content/blogs5/84262/uploads/moon_color_1.jpg
NASA color/hue over-saturated image:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0602/Mooncolor060110schedler_35.jpg
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better can do, and KECK at least
100 fold better, as well as each of these in full/extended color
saturation so that mineral elements and any impact created vapors can
be deductively extrapolated. Not to mention the JAXA/Selene X-Ray
fluorescence spectrometer (XRS) and Gamma ray spectrometer (GRS). I’m
told that Japan has nifty telescopes too, but apparently theirs are
only braille scopes that at best can only detect monochrome. And what
about the somewhat secretive ISRO Chandrayaan-1 mission that’s
entirely run by 5th graders that can’t quite figure out how the
internet works?
< snip GuthBall drivel >
Are you done soiling your undies over "Kaguya" ??
You do know that your "dark as coal Selene" brain is now
in a dead heat with Ed Conrad's "old as coal" collection of
malfunctioning neurons ... ???
And once again for the millionth time, lord Hagar contributes nothing
independently or objectively factual, much less topic constructive.
Of course there is always the mainstream gauntlet of brown-nosed
clowns that should know the physics and the math of observationology
science that's perfectly peer replicated, which clearly makes them
part of the DARPA and NASA ruse/sting of our mutually perpetrated cold-
war century. Everything they've ever contributed is proof positive of
exactly what they are, because not even 5th grade morons can be that
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return.
So, why are these folks telling us such blatant lies upon lies by way
of such obfuscation (excluding evidence), and by otherwise
intentionally suggesting otherwise as to what was never the case?
Ever heard of photographic dynamic range?
Ever heard of bandpass optical filters or coated optics?
Ever heard of using the CCD/CMOS imager spectral range?
Ever hear of using PhotoShop or computer extrapolated images?
Would you like to see some amateur color images of our Selene/moon?
Would you like to see planets along with our moon in the same FOV?
Would you like to see our moon, sun and Venus all in the same FOV?
How about sharing a satellite shot (FOV) of our physically dark but
fully illuminated moon along with the absolutely vibrant and bluish
plus unavoidable UV worth of the Sirius star system?
Are they suggesting that our naked Selene/moon is highly reflective
and otherwise has no viable minerals or unusual elements, and that
nothing of this lunar surface is the least bit UV reactive or
otherwise capable of generating secondary/recoil photons of any color/
hue saturation kind?
~ BG
"KAGUYA"(SELENE) encounters our physically dark and extremely dusty
moon at an angle of just 1 degree, and there’s no bounce, skip or
hardly if any gouge, perhaps because the surface of this impact site
was simply way too soft, as in tens of meters deep kind of crystal dry
and electrostatic charged carbonado and basalt dust that’s saturated
in all kinds of local minerals (including sodium) plus countless
meteorite deposits along with their secondary shards.
Lots of terrific private astronomy equipment had to have been pointed
at the carefully specified impact site, with more than enough
resolution and absolutely terrific dynamic range, not to mention the
ten fold better stuff at the disposal of NASA, or the hundred fold
better yet from team KECK, or for that matter the greatly improved
resolution, dynamic range and wide color/hue spectrum capability from
Hubble. Of course at least the HDTV and its full color spectrum via
KAGUYA should have functioned all the way up to a fraction of a second
or a couple frames prior to impact.
And what about all of those better TC (terrain camera) images for the
past 4 months while orbiting at 50 km, of resolution near 5 meters and
exceptional dynamic range?
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at. Way to go JAXA, ISAS,
NASA and all you other guys.
Here’s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
http://djsenn.podbean.com/wp-content/blogs5/84262/uploads/moon_color_1.jpg
NASA color/hue over-saturated image:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0602/Mooncolor060110schedler_35.jpg
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better can do, and KECK at least
100 fold better, as well as each of these images in full/extended
color saturation along with terrific dynamic range so that mineral
elements and any impact created vapors can be easily imaged and
deductively extrapolated. Not to mention the JAXA/Selene X-Ray
fluorescence spectrometer (XRS) and their Gamma ray spectrometer
(GRS). I’m told that Japan has nifty telescopes too, but apparently
theirs are only braille scopes that at best can only detect monochrome
and at piss poor resolution at that. And what about the somewhat
secretive ISRO Chandrayaan-1 mission that’s entirely run by 5th
graders that also can’t quite figure out how the internet works best?
Of course there is always the warm and fuzzy mainstream swarm and
subsequent damage-control gauntlet of our Usenet/newsgroup battery of
brown-nosed clowns, that by rights should know the physics and the
math of observationology science that's perfectly peer replicated,
even by those of their very own kind that sees nothing wrong with
publishing multiple stacked and false colorized eye-candy, of which
their perpetual denials and obfuscation is what clearly makes them
part of the DARPA and NASA ruse/sting of our mutually perpetrated cold-
war century. Everything they've ever contributed is proof positive of
exactly what they are and of who they represent, because not even 5th
grade morons can be that snookered and dumbfounded past the point of
no return.
So, if not playing some part in a complex conspiracy, then why are
these folks telling us such blatant lies upon lies by way of imposing
such obfuscation (excluding evidence), and by otherwise denial and/or
intentionally suggesting otherwise as to what was never the case?
Ever heard of photographic dynamic range?
Ever heard of bandpass optical filters or coated optics?
Ever heard of using the CCD/CMOS imager spectral range?
Ever hear of using PhotoShop or computer extrapolated images?
Would you like to see some amateur color images of our Selene/moon?
Would you like to see planets along with our moon in the same FOV?
Would you like to see our moon, sun and Venus all in the same FOV?
How about sharing a satellite shot (FOV) of our physically dark but
fully illuminated moon along with the absolutely vibrant and bluish
plus unavoidable UV worth of the Sirius star system?
Are they suggesting that our naked Selene/moon is as highly reflective
and otherwise has no viable minerals or unusual elements and thereby
passive as documented by their Apollo missions, and thus insisting
that nothing of this lunar surface or of anything artificial is the
least bit UV reactive or otherwise capable of generating secondary/
recoil photons of any significant color/hue saturation kind?
In other words, do they really expect us to so easily cave in, as
though we outsiders are something less than preschool worthy and
thereby at best village idiots? (because it really seems to be the
case)
I never thought I'd say this, but Brad's right about the Moon's darkness -
7% albido - about as dark as asphalt or coal.
Alan Erskine wrote:
> I never thought I'd say this, but Brad's right about the Moon's darkness -
> 7% albido - about as dark as asphalt or coal.
>
Which is odd, as a few months back he was saying it was _highly_
reflective and made of frozen salt water.
That's when I first realized where the Nazi fixation was coming from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welteislehre
Pat
GuthBall doesn't need Wikipedia articles for his Nazi infatuation, he can
that stuff right out of his ass ... along with his misguided Moon
conceptions
and his "dirigible in the upper Venusuian atmosphere habitat" bullshit.
That 7% is the overall average as seen from Earth. While orbiting and/
or on the moon is where it's average should be somewhat closer to 12%
(a little better off than coal), although Apollo cameras utilized a
polarized optical filter that should have cut their surface glare by
at least 50%, making that crystal dry kind of dusty surface in most of
their Kodak moments look somewhat darker than seen by the naked human
eye.
Don't forget that planets such as Venus were not representing any
stellar point source of light, and that even Mars and especially
Saturn and Jupiter would not have been invisible to such Kodak film.
Sirius is another example of what should have been easily recorded
within a given FOV that included the horizon of our physically dark
moon.
~ BG
Pat, you silly old out of context kind of guy. Are you now admitting
that you are a certified liar? Because your bogus statements have
clearly nailed that coffin shut.
~ BG
Once again and again, your perverted mindset is perfectly clear, as
are your actions.
~ BG
"KAGUYA"(SELENE) encounters our physically dark and extremely dusty
moon at an angle of just 1 degree, and there’s no bounce, skip or
hardly if any gouge, as though the surface of this impact site was
simply way too soft, as in tens of meters deep kind of crystal dry and
electrostatic charged carbonado and basalt dust that’s saturated in
all kinds of local minerals (including sodium) plus countless
meteorite deposits along with their secondary shards.
Lots of terrific private astronomy equipment had to have been pointed
at the carefully specified impact site, with more than enough
resolution and absolutely terrific dynamic range, not to mention the
ten fold better stuff at the disposal of NASA, or the hundred fold
better yet from team KECK, or for that matter the greatly improved
resolution, dynamic range and wide color/hue spectrum capability from
Hubble. Of course at least the HDTV and its full color spectrum via
KAGUYA should have functioned all the way up to a fraction of a second
or a couple frames prior to impact.
And what about all of those better TC (terrain camera) images for the
past 4 months while orbiting at 50 km, of resolution near 5 meters and
exceptional dynamic range?
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at, and otherwise at best
0.1% of all the other public funded science. Way to go JAXA, ISAS,
NASA and all you other guys.
Here’s an example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
http://djsenn.podbean.com/wp-content/blogs5/84262/uploads/moon_color_1.jpg
NASA color/hue over-saturated image:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0602/Mooncolor060110schedler_35.jpg
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better than amateurs can do, and
of KECK at least 100 fold better, as well as each of these images in
full/extended color saturation along with terrific dynamic range so
that mineral elements and any impact created vapors can be easily
imaged and deductively extrapolated. Not to mention the JAXA/Selene X-
Ray fluorescence spectrometer (XRS) and their Gamma ray spectrometer
(GRS). I’m told that Japan has nifty telescopes too, but apparently
theirs are only braille scopes that at best can only detect monochrome
and at piss poor resolution at that. And what about the somewhat
secretive ISRO Chandrayaan-1 mission that’s entirely run by 5th
graders that also can’t quite figure out how the internet works best?
Of course there is always the warm and fuzzy mainstream swarm and
subsequent damage-control gauntlet of our Usenet/newsgroup battery of
brown-nosed clowns, that by rights should know the physics and the
math of observationology science that's perfectly peer replicated,
even by those of their very own kind that sees nothing wrong with
their publishing multiple stacked and false colorized eye-candy, of
which their perpetual denials and obfuscation is what clearly makes
them part of the DARPA and NASA ruse/sting of our mutually perpetrated
cold-war century. Everything they've ever contributed is simply proof
positive of exactly what they are and of who they represent, because
not even 5th grade morons can be that snookered and dumbfounded past
the point of no return.
So, if these clowns are not playing some part in a complex conspiracy,
then why are these folks as spooks and moles of their mainstream cabal
telling us such blatant lies upon lies by way of imposing such
obfuscation (excluding evidence), and by otherwise imposing denial and/
or intentionally suggesting otherwise as to what was never the case?
Ever heard of photographic dynamic range?
Ever heard of bandpass optical filters or coated optics?
Ever heard of using the CCD/CMOS imager spectral range?
Ever hear of using PhotoShop or computer extrapolated images?
Would you like to see some amateur color images of our Selene/moon?
Would you like to see planets along with our moon in the same FOV?
Would you like to see our moon, sun and Venus all in the same FOV?
How about sharing a satellite shot (FOV) of our physically dark but
fully illuminated moon along with the absolutely vibrant and bluish
plus unavoidable UV worth of the Sirius star system? (while orbiting
Selene, how is it even possible to continually exclude this kind of
image)
It seems any number of amateur astronomy examples, in spite of our
polluted atmosphere that distorts and filters out photons, without
image stacking or otherwise false colorizing have captured our
physically dark Selene/moon along with other planets, and even a few
showing a faint star or two that are nowhere as bright or bluish and
UV worthy as Sirius.
Are they suggesting that our naked Selene/moon is as highly reflective
and otherwise having no viable minerals or unusual elements and
thereby remains as unusually passive as documented by their Apollo
missions, and thus insisting that nothing of this lunar surface or of
anything artificial is the least bit UV reactive or otherwise capable
of generating secondary/recoil photons of any significant color/hue
fluorescence kind?
In other words, do they really expect us to so easily cave in, as
though we outsiders are something less than preschool worthy and
thereby at best village idiots? (because it really seems to be the
case of our big brother being in charge of everything that matters)
I do so hate it when people interrupt Brad's monologues.
Have you no pride?
that article could've been penned by you. :)
I too have suggested that our physically dark Selene/moon was once a
very icy kind of interstellar trekking orb, possibly released from
Sirius B.
~ BG
namekuseijin wrote:
>
> that article could've been penned by you. :)
The key is remembering that ice is not frozen water...water is melted
ice. :-)
That was part of the dogma of the Glacial Cosmogony theory.
Some of the top Nazis were concerned that the V-2 missile might break a
hole in the ice shell around the Earth, and let in flood waters from
outside of it. Werner von Braun had to talk them out of that being a danger.
At one point in the 1930's someone was working on a rocket that was to
carry a man up to the altitude where the ice shell was supposed to be;
assuming he didn't get squashed like a bug on hitting it, he was then
supposed to parachute back to earth and report on what he had found.
Pat
"KAGUYA"(SELENE) encounters our physically dark and extremely dusty
moon at an angle of just 1 degree, and oddly there’s no bounce, skip
or hardly if any gouge, as though the surface of this impact site was
simply way too soft, as in tens of meters deep kind of crystal dry and
electrostatic charged carbonado and basalt dust that’s saturated in
all kinds of local minerals (including sodium) plus countless
meteorite deposits along with their secondary shards (aka quicksand).
Lots of terrific private astronomy equipment had to have been pointed
at the carefully specified impact site, with more than enough
resolution and absolutely terrific dynamic range, not to mention the
ten fold better stuff at the disposal of our NASA, or the hundred fold
better yet from team KECK, or for that matter the greatly improved
resolution, dynamic range and wide color/hue spectrum capability from
Hubble. Of course at least the HDTV and its full color spectrum via
KAGUYA should have functioned all the way up to a fraction of a second
or a couple frames prior to impact.
And what about all of those better TC (terrain camera) images for the
past 4 months while orbiting at 50 km, of resolution near 5 meters and
offering exceptional dynamic range?
Thus far we’ve got zip/nada/zilch to look at, and otherwise at best
0.1% of all the other public funded science. Way to go JAXA, ISAS,
NASA and all you other guys (including ISRO).
Here’s one example of what a private astronomer can accomplish.
http://www.avertedimagination.com/moon_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm
http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/goodnightmoon100407.html
http://djsenn.podbean.com/wp-content/blogs5/84262/uploads/moon_color_1.jpg
NASA color/hue over-saturated image:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0602/Mooncolor060110schedler_35.jpg
Just imagine what our NASA at 10 fold better than amateurs can do, and
of KECK at least 100 fold better, as well as each of these images in
full/extended color saturation along with terrific dynamic range so
that specific mineral elements and any impact created vapors can be
easily imaged and deductively extrapolated. Not to mention the JAXA/
Selene X-Ray fluorescence spectrometer (XRS) and their Gamma ray
spectrometer (GRS). I’m told that Japan has nifty telescopes too, but
apparently theirs are only braille scopes that at best can only detect
monochrome and at relatively piss poor resolution at that. And what
about the somewhat secretive ISRO Chandrayaan-1 mission that’s
entirely run by 5th graders that also can’t quite figure out how the
internet works best?
Of course, there is always the warm and fuzzy mainstream swarm and
subsequent damage-control gauntlet of our Usenet/newsgroup battery of
brown-nosed clowns, that by rights should know the physics and the
math of observationology science that's perfectly peer replicated
(including Kodak), even by those of their very own kind that sees
nothing wrong with their publishing multiple stacked and false
colorized eye-candy, of which their perpetual denials and obfuscation
is what clearly makes them part of the DARPA and NASA ruse/sting of
our mutually perpetrated cold-war century. Everything they've ever
contributed is simply proof positive of exactly what they are and of
who they represent, because not even 5th grade morons can be that
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return.
So, if these clowns are not playing some part in a complex conspiracy,
then why are these folks as spooks and moles of their mainstream cabal
telling us such blatant lies upon lies by way of imposing such
obfuscation (excluding evidence), and by otherwise imposing denial and/
or intentionally suggesting otherwise as to what was never the case?
Ever heard of photographic dynamic range?
Ever heard of bandpass optical filters or coated optics?
Ever heard of using the CCD/CMOS imager spectral range?
Ever hear of using PhotoShop or computer extrapolated images?
Would you like to see some amateur color images of our Selene/moon?
Would you like to see planets along with our moon in the same FOV?
Would you like to see our moon, sun and Venus all in the same FOV?
How about sharing a satellite shot (FOV) of our physically dark but
fully illuminated moon along with the absolutely vibrant and bluish
plus unavoidable UV worth of the Sirius star system? (while orbiting
Selene, how is it even remotely possible to continually exclude this
kind of image, especially of excluding the planet Venus?)
It seems any number of amateur astronomy examples, in spite of our
polluted atmosphere that distorts and filters out certain spectrums
of photons, and yet without image stacking or otherwise false
colorizing have captured our physically dark Selene/moon along with
other planets, and even a few showing a faint star or two that are
nowhere nearly as bright or bluish and UV worthy as Sirius.
Are these clowns suggesting that our naked Selene/moon is actually as
highly reflective and otherwise having no viable minerals or unusual
elements and thereby remains as unusually passive as documented by
their Apollo missions, and thus insisting that nothing of this lunar
surface or of anything artificial is ever the least bit UV reactive or
otherwise capable of generating secondary/recoil photons of any
significant color/hue fluorescence or X-ray and gamma kind?
In other words, do they really expect us to so easily cave in, as
though we outsiders are something less than preschool worthy, and
thereby at best village idiots? (because it really seems to be the
case of our big brother being in charge of everything that matters)
~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”
Nazis were/are clearly insane.
Since most of them were highly educated Zionists, I'd have to agree
with that. Catholics were simply not nearly as insane, as otherwise
not anywhere as physics and science smart enough.
~ BG
namekuseijin wrote:
> Nazis were/are clearly insane.
>
Yup...I read up on their WW II antics and it's basically impossible to
understand where they are coming from.
Pat
It's called Zionism, and otherwise called global domination by
whatever means.
For any religion cult/cabal to pull this off, you need to get yourself
a viable puppet warlord, such as Hitler.
~ BG
Not necessarly. Only evil, misguided and very good organisers.
Their insistence on policies we, the rest of the world, would call pure
evil, togehter with some total weirdness in priorities was what saved
us from a long-term Nazi regime.
But that discussion belongs elsewhere. Here, we aim for the stars.
-- mrr
Morten Reistad wrote:
> Not necessarly. Only evil, misguided and very good organisers.
>
Not when it came to their weapons programs they weren't. They would have
several companies and individual inventors working on the same basic
thing, all going at it in different ways and in competition with each
other for funding and political favor.
Consider all the German SAMs and AAMs that not only got proposed during
the war, but actually reached prototype stage and were test-launched.
Germany badly needed SAMs to deal with the hoards of incoming Allied
bombers, but frittered away the possibility of getting one operational
till it was too late, as all the firms trying to develop one were each
working on their own concept with no cooperation with the other teams
who were also trying to make one.
Then of course, there was Dr. Zippermayer's Whirlwind AA Cannon and the
Bachem Natter disposable fighter plane to also compete with.
In the AAM field, after screwing around with different guided missile
designs, the most effective thing they could come up with was the R4M
unguided air-to-air rocket, something so simple in design that they
could have had it operational during the whole war.
Even after the war, some of that craziness got incorporated into
American weapon design programs due to Operation Paperclip. You can
trace the X-20 Dynasoar straight back to Sanger's Antipodal bomber, and
although von Braun thought the Jupiter IRBM was a "mobile missile
system", it was a complete mess to move it around to different launching
sites.
Pat
Why not accomplish 0.1 meter or better resolution via LRO? (USAF and
DARPA could have accomplished this via film and large format lens as
of decades ago)
Why not a dynamic range of 20 db or even 24 db? (modern CCDs are
technically good for a whole lot better)
How can multiple bright and shiny items against a nearly dark as coal
surface remain so stealth/invisible? Were they put there by Muslims
that know best how to hide OBL and all of those WMD?
Too much heat by day, too much sodium most of the time, too much gamma
and hard-X-rays and obviously too much need-to-know going on with the
JAXA/Selene mission.
Why would the JAXA/Selene mission intentionally impact out of
terrestrial sight?
Will it be any different outcome with our “LRO; Apollo impacts and
their debris soon to be identified” (or perhaps not)
~ BG
I have my fair share of pride as well as remorse. How about yourself?
btw, what's with this "matt black" anyway?
Are you saying the moon isn't nearly as dark as coal?
~ BG