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June Kim

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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In Leo Tolstoy's fable, "The Two Brothers", there is a proverb writtern:
"Beneath a stone no water flows"
What does this mean? Is it an English proverb, originally? (Maybe Russian)

In the context, the elder one said two proverbs to his brother:

"The proverb says: 'In seeking great happiness small pleasures may be lost'.
And also: 'A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'."

And, as a reply to them, his younger brother said two proverbs which might be
opposite to what his elder brother had said:

"I have heard: 'He who is afraid of the leaves must not go into the forest'.
And also: 'Beneath a stone no water flows'."

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This is another question which has nothing to do with the former.
It is somewhat like a quiz.

a. sci-fi TV series = headliner + journey
b. campaign = farm building + tempest
c. at-home wear = dip+court attire
d. kind of pen=formal dance + sharp end.
e. conservative=correct + part of airplane

I think a's answer would be "startrek".
and c, bathrode, d, ballpoint, e, rightwing.
But cannot figure out what b's answer is. Can anyone think of it?

-June


Richard Fontana

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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June Kim sez:

> This is another question which has nothing to do with the former.
> It is somewhat like a quiz.
>
> a. sci-fi TV series = headliner + journey
> b. campaign = farm building + tempest
> c. at-home wear = dip+court attire
> d. kind of pen=formal dance + sharp end.
> e. conservative=correct + part of airplane
>
> I think a's answer would be "startrek".
> and c, bathrode, d, ballpoint, e, rightwing.
> But cannot figure out what b's answer is. Can anyone think of it?

It's "barnstorm".


Richard

Edward Romashev

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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June Kim wrote:

> In Leo Tolstoy's fable, "The Two Brothers", there is a proverb
> writtern:
> "Beneath a stone no water flows"
> What does this mean? Is it an English proverb, originally? (Maybe
> Russian)
>
> In the context, the elder one said two proverbs to his brother:
>
> "The proverb says: 'In seeking great happiness small pleasures may be
> lost'.
> And also: 'A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'."
>
> And, as a reply to them, his younger brother said two proverbs which
> might be
> opposite to what his elder brother had said:
>
> "I have heard: 'He who is afraid of the leaves must not go into the
> forest'.
> And also: 'Beneath a stone no water flows'."

Hello
I'm Russian - so this was the question to me More accurate translation
would be:

'Beneath a lying stone no water flows'."

This a Russian proverb meaning:

Unless you start doing something - this work is undone and will always
be
or:
You want the water to flow where this stone lies? Move the stone away,
for while it's lying in its place - you are not even trying to do
anything ... etc.

CULATER
Edward


Donna Richoux

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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June Kim <june...@orchestra.cse.cau.ac.kr> wrote:

> In Leo Tolstoy's fable, "The Two Brothers", there is a proverb writtern:
> "Beneath a stone no water flows"
> What does this mean? Is it an English proverb, originally? (Maybe Russian)
>
> In the context, the elder one said two proverbs to his brother:
>
> "The proverb says: 'In seeking great happiness small pleasures may be lost'.
> And also: 'A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'."
>
> And, as a reply to them, his younger brother said two proverbs which might be
> opposite to what his elder brother had said:
>
> "I have heard: 'He who is afraid of the leaves must not go into the forest'.
> And also: 'Beneath a stone no water flows'."

Sorry, I've never heard of it, and so far no one else has said they
have, either. Nor are there enough clues from this brotherly proverb
contest to figure out its meaning, either.

There is an English saying, "You can't get blood from a stone" (or a
turnip), but your version is not "From a stone no water flows."

Try soc.culture.russian.

Best wishes --- Donna Richoux

Paul Pfalzner

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Donna Richoux (tr...@euronet.nl) writes:
> June Kim <june...@orchestra.cse.cau.ac.kr> wrote:
>
>> In Leo Tolstoy's fable, "The Two Brothers", there is a proverb writtern:
>> "Beneath a stone no water flows"
>> What does this mean? Is it an English proverb, originally? (Maybe Russian)
>>
>> In the context, the elder one said two proverbs to his brother:
>>
>> "The proverb says: 'In seeking great happiness small pleasures may be lost'.
>> And also: 'A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'."
>>
>> And, as a reply to them, his younger brother said two proverbs which might be
>> opposite to what his elder brother had said:
>>
>> "I have heard: 'He who is afraid of the leaves must not go into the forest'.
>> And also: 'Beneath a stone no water flows'."

These may well be Russian sayings or proverbs.

The first is fairly readily interpreted.
The second could mean that something heavy, lifeless like a stone
does not permit anything clear, bubbling, refreshing to happen.

Paul-Michel


>
> Sorry, I've never heard of it, and so far no one else has said they
> have, either. Nor are there enough clues from this brotherly proverb
> contest to figure out its meaning, either.
>
> There is an English saying, "You can't get blood from a stone" (or a
> turnip), but your version is not "From a stone no water flows."
>
> Try soc.culture.russian.
>
> Best wishes --- Donna Richoux


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