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Table of contents:
What Your _____ Grader Needs to Know
from LZH...@prodigy.com (MR DAVID A HORWATH)
Re: What Your _____ Grader Needs to Know
from McBri...@aol.com
Re: What Your _____ Grader Needs to Know
from Beth...@aol.com
Re: What Your _____ Grader Needs to Know
from CARE...@aol.com
Bookcases
from Amy Bell <amy...@rmci.net>
GWS
from r...@woozle.emp.unify.com (Ruthann Biel)
catalog reviews
from r...@woozle.emp.unify.com (Ruthann Biel)
Re: Scott/Forseman Math Books
from m...@matrix.riv.edu (Michael Moy)
RE: "Real Talk" by Stuart
from "I am not a man, I AM A FREE NUMBER" <br...@csc32.ENET.dec.com>
Re: Thinking about homeschooling, have questions
from Debee Cochran <bam...@teleport.com>
Dyslexia, left from right
from Mary Katherine Chisum <mary...@tenet.edu>
Curriculum pkgs
from Angela Blackman <ang...@interconnet.com>
Re: Dyslexia, left from right
from "Tane' Tachyon" <tac...@cats.ucsc.edu>
Re: Dyslexia, left from right
from pk...@voicenet.com (Pamela M. Kerr)
Re: Dyslexia, left from right
from r...@woozle.emp.unify.com (Ruthann Biel)
Re: Dyslexia, left from right
from "I am not a man, I AM A FREE NUMBER" <br...@csc32.ENET.dec.com>
Re: Dyslexia, left from right
from "Susan O'Neal" <sus...@fay.infi.net>
Re: Dyslexia, left from right
from ee...@ix.netcom.com (elaine stearns)
Re: Dyslexia, left from right
from Amy Bell <amy...@rmci.net>
Re: Curriculum pkgs
from Terri Stuart <tst...@clandjop.com>
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From: LZH...@prodigy.com (MR DAVID A HORWATH)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:30:58, -0500
Subject: What Your _____ Grader Needs to Know
I have seen the books "What your 1st, 2nd, etc.. Grader Needs to Know,
" but I would like to know if there is a book in this series called
"What Your Kindergartener Needs to Know?" These sound like wonderful
books, but I haven't seen one dealing Kindergarten specifically. Can
anyone help????
Jennifer (mother of Ashley & Allyssa -5 & Tara -3)
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From: McBri...@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:56:42 -0400
Subject: Re: What Your _____ Grader Needs to Know
In a message dated 96-07-01 17:43:10 EDT, you write:
<<
I have seen the books "What your 1st, 2nd, etc.. Grader Needs to Know,
" but I would like to know if there is a book in this series called
"What Your Kindergartener Needs to Know?" These sound like wonderful
books, but I haven't seen one dealing Kindergarten specifically. Can
anyone help????
Jennifer (mother of Ashley & Allyssa -5 & Tara -3)
>>
Jennifer McBride here,
No, to my knowledge there is not one for kindergarten; however, I have been
using the 1st grade one with my kindergartener. It's pretty basic. I got
mine at Sam's Warehouse club in paperback for $6.00.
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From: Beth...@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:24:21 -0400
Subject: Re: What Your _____ Grader Needs to Know
Jennifer:
I too was origionally interested in "What Your K Needs To Know". I went so
far as to call and as about that title. They origionally didn't put it in the
series
because (in their words) they didn't think there was enough information
to warrant a separate text. Now, I hear (due to demand) they are coming
out with that title. Last I heard it will be out sometime this fall/winter.
(I wonder where they came up with enough information to somehow
fill that previously half empty book). IMHO they're coming out with the book,
not because THEY saw a need for it, but because WE have a need. It
will be interesting to look at.
Beth
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From: CARE...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:24:09 -0400
Subject: Re: What Your _____ Grader Needs to Know
To interested people wanting info on Core Knowledge: The Core
Knowledge Foundation has come out with a K version of their "What Your ---
Needs to Know" series. It was produced because they saw the need for it
after listening to interested people. It is, however, relatively new on the
market---and it has incorporated some of the 1st grade materials into K.
The Core Knowledge Foundation has a home page at:
http://www.trinity.edu/departments/education/core/core.html
Core-Net is an online resource page with lesson plans and other
information on Core Knowledge. When you sign up for Core-Net, you are then
on their mailing list for messages. Check out the Core home page address on
how to subscribe.
Hope this helps.....................Diane
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From: Amy Bell <amy...@rmci.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:05:08 -0600
Subject: Bookcases
At 10:08 AM 6/28/96 PST, Jube Dankworth wrote:
Now if I could get more shelves for
>these books, maybe I could walk through my house.
>
>Jube
>
We've been thinking that if we took the crib down, we could fit maybe 2 more
6 ft tall bookcases there. But then my sister asked where we would put the
baby. Darn, there's always a naysayer.
Amy Bell
Homeschooling in Idaho
"It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." --Albert Einstein
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From: r...@woozle.emp.unify.com (Ruthann Biel)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:06:13 -0700
Subject: GWS
GWS - Growing Without Schooling. my favorite homeschool magazine.
Once a year they publish a directory of families and support groups
that ask to be listed. The magazine comes out bi monthly.
Rates are: US Surface AirMail
1 yr (6 issues) $25 $28 $40
2 yr (12 " " 45 51 75
3 yr (18 " ) 60 69 105
all prices in USA funds. (They take mastercard and visa.)
Growing Without Schooling, 2269 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge,
MA 02140. 617-864-3100. (They have a great homeschool catalog.)
--
RuthAnn Biel | Patrick's mother. We homeschool.
r...@woozle.Emp.Unify.Com |-------------------------------------
+1 916 381 4205 | Sacramento, California
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From: r...@woozle.emp.unify.com (Ruthann Biel)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:17:52 -0700
Subject: catalog reviews
I have been writing brief reviews for my support group newsletter.
Here is the latest with a local comment.
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CATALOG CORNER:
TIMBERDOODLE COMPANY. Their 70 page catalog targets "the needs of
home educators". They are a Christian company that offers lots of home
school stuff, some of it school-at-home materials, some of it things
hard to find elsewhere. They are the USA distributor for Fischertechnik,
a building set that is very different from Legos. They also carry
foreign language software that is not in every software store. With
each order, one receives a free moralistic book. It is possible to ask
them to keep these.
Their address is Timberdoodle Company, E 1510 Spencer Lake Road,
Shelton, WA 98584. 1-800-478-0672. 1-360-426-0672, 8am to 5pm PST,
Monday-Thursday. Webpage at http://www.timberdoodle.com
E-Mail at mai...@timberdoodle.com
They take do not take credit cards. They have a new feature of checks
by phone or fax.
ANIMAL TOWN. "Toys, games, and books for cooperative learning and endless
fun." They have lots of cooperative games and puzzles, a very ecletic
collection. Send for it if you don't have it.
Their address is Animal Town, PO Box 485, Healdsburg, CA 95448.
1-800-445-8642. FAX 1-707-837-9737. They take phone orders, and
accept checks, money orders, Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and
Discover.
CRAFT KING. Craft King is a discount craft supply. Here in Sacramento
we can find most of the craft supplies we need, but sometimes a
special something is needed that can't be found or is out-of-stock
here in town, this is catalog that is likely to have it.
Their address is Craft King, PO box 90637, Lakeland, FL 33804.
Order number 800-769-9494, FAX 813-648-2972. They take phone orders,
accept checks, money orders, Visa, Mastercard, and Discover.
--
RuthAnn Biel | Patrick's mother. We homeschool.
r...@woozle.Emp.Unify.Com |-------------------------------------
+1 916 381 4205 | Sacramento, California
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From: m...@matrix.riv.edu (Michael Moy)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:43:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Scott/Forseman Math Books
Jennifer (LZH...@prodigy.com (MR DAVID A HORWATH)) wrote:
>Sherrie,
>
>Can you tell me where I can get these Scott/Forseman Math Books for
>Kindergarten? They sound like they would work well for my girls.
Try 800 directory assistance. I have their number at my work machine. Send mail
to mm...@us.oracle.com if 800-d/a can't help you.
michael
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From: "I am not a man, I AM A FREE NUMBER" <br...@csc32.ENET.dec.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:22:00 PDT
Subject: RE: "Real Talk" by Stuart
Sherrie,
Thanks ... just to prove it is possible to write on topic but we need prompts
that provoke it!
> I'd love to hear more on your views/words of "FORMING THE BASIS
>OF HER CAREER". We need more knowledge, insight, inspiration, encouragement,
>WHATEVER, in that area. Anybody else have feedback too?
No 2 ways about it ... Jennifer is an artist ... just have a look at
our home page and follow the link to her page ...
http://www.concentric.net/~sbrook
She needs all the encouragement she can get in this area that she can right now,
and school just would not have done it ... 1 semester of art per year from a
typical art teacher who would etll her how to draw these characters ... I don't
think so ... For example she looked at our dog to see how a lion's legs might
go. That is learning. Next year we have to catch up a bit on the necessities
like math and science ... but this year was really good for her to explore art.
In the process she learned how to scan pictures, use paint shop type programs,
compress pictures, touch up pictures, write html and generally use the computer.
She's come out of this years standardized test in English language at an
extrapolated grade 13.5 Her comprehension exrtapolated to gr 15!
Stuart
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From: Debee Cochran <bam...@teleport.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:56:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Thinking about homeschooling, have questions
Jube,
I believe that "Home Links" was started as a program for High School age kid
that are homeschooled to be able to get their high school diploma. This
fall will be the first year they have a complete program for grade school
aged kids. They offer curriculum counciling, art,P.E.,and computer classes
(they have a great computer lab) and many classes where the kids get a mix
of things. They also do all the state required testing for you.
>From what I understand the district recieves 1/2 funds for each child that
participates in 6 or more hours of classes per week. I don't know how this
program was started by the district. I do know several kids who have
attended and they say the teachers are great. I've visited the school four
times and it seems to have a real family atomoshere. (Parents are required
to attend with their kids.)
This will be our first year so I am really hoping that this is as good as it
sounds.
Debee
At 11:06 AM 6/28/96 PST, you wrote:
>
>What kind of school district is so advanced as to offer a program for
>home schooled kids? We're fighting to be included in UIL competition.
>Tell me more about this program. Are the hs kids then counted as
>"attendance" so the school district gets more federal money? THis is
>interesting.
>
>Jube
>
>
>
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From: Mary Katherine Chisum <mary...@tenet.edu>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:15:21 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Dyslexia, left from right
Does anyone out there have any experience or ideas on how to teach a 9
year old with a touch of dislexia how to tell left from right? Any games
or fun things to practice without being too boring or drilling? Any
help would be appreciated. This problem has just surfaced.
Thanks,
Kathy
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From: Angela Blackman <ang...@interconnet.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:33:20 -0400
Subject: Curriculum pkgs
OK all, this is my problem that I think is best answered by you all. :)
We are on a very limited hs budget and I am faced with a growing mountain of
hs catalogues that, when added up, can be slipped into the budget [if things
are bought separately- a whole kit would set us back many many months].
So, who has any experience with
* A Beka's K5 readers/maths? Need 1st hand account on whether worth it.
* Italic Handwriting Series from Bright Spark? I had already started my 4.5
yo on bal and stick [ugly!] and wonder wether I should look at K level or
1st grade.
* Get READY, Get SET, READ by National Dynamics?
I'd love to go the unschooling way, but am so unsure about whether I can
cover everything I should that I wish there was an unschooling teacher's
manual. Ha!Ha!Ha!Boo-hoo. [mildly panicking mother here!]
Are there sites on the Web that are [free!] good tools for hsing? I have
found a couple unit ideas from the BusyTeacher site, but am looking for more.
What I'd ideally like to do is have about 2 months of "curriculum" set up
for a September start. I only plan on doing about 45 min-1.5 hrs to start
as we've been "off" school since mid-May -- his choice not mine :(. Also
our schoolroom/playroom will be finished construction/painting so... want to
be set to go as soon as Sept. hits.
So, any concrete ideas out there?
T-much-IA,
----- Angie Blackman -----
ang...@interconnet.com
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: Mom to :
: Dustin 4.5 yrs (16-12-91) and Alisha 2 yrs (18-05-94) :
: ----- New to Homeschooling ----- :
: Vaudreuil, Qc CANADA :
: :
:"There are no days of our childhood we lived so fully... :
: as those we spent with a favorite book." :
: - Marcel Proust :
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From: "Tane' Tachyon" <tac...@cats.ucsc.edu>
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 21:37:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Dyslexia, left from right
> Does anyone out there have any experience or ideas on how to teach a 9
> year old with a touch of dislexia how to tell left from right? Any games
> or fun things to practice without being too boring or drilling? Any
> help would be appreciated. This problem has just surfaced.
>
> Thanks,
> Kathy
This may not go over too well with some people here, but with my 7-
year-old I just remind him that his *mouse* hand is his right hand. :-)
--
Tane' Tachyon = tac...@cats.ucsc.edu = http://www.armory.com/~tachyon
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From: pk...@voicenet.com (Pamela M. Kerr)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:21:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Dyslexia, left from right
>Does anyone out there have any experience or ideas on how to teach a 9
>year old with a touch of dislexia how to tell left from right? Any games
>or fun things to practice without being too boring or drilling? Any
>help would be appreciated. This problem has just surfaced.
>
>Thanks,
>Kathy
Kathy,
First of all, try not to consider this a problem. My entire family (at
least three generations) consists of bright, interesting people who have
trouble telling right from left. We all have rich, full lives and none of
us have been imprisoned or sent to psychiatric hospitals!
The few tricks we've used: Extend arms straight out in front with hand
bent upwards at the wrist, palms pointing away from body and thumbs
extending toward one another, The hand that makes an 'L' with the index
finger and thumb is the left hand. (This works if yor 9-yr.-old can spell.
Of course, my one friend kept turning her palms inward which plays havoc
with the supposedly simple reminder.)
I told my first-born child that the hand he writes with is his right hand
and the other was left over. Isn't that sweet? Not very useful for a
child who hardly ever wrote. My second child, naturally was left-handed.
Since she's 4.5 years younger than the first, I had time to stop my word
game before she felt invalidated. of course, she has perceived the world
in reverse of what is expected her whole life. She only started
dressing/putting her clothes on 'forward' around age 6. If letters
couldn't be written backwards (A, V, etc.), she wrote them upside down.
For years, if I wanted to know right from left, I 'turned' myself
northward, then figured out which hand I ate with. Since I sat down to
dinner facing north, this is what seemed to anchor my thinking. Truly, I
was 20-something and still twisting northward. Amazing how my body always
knew north but not right/left. Maybe if I'd been allowed to discover them
at my own rate, I'd know them easily now.
We have prescious little need for knowing right and left quickly outside of
a car. (Have you ever noticed that?) We use hand signals whenever we give
a direction. Hand pointing ALWAYS takes precedence over whichever word we
say. Even if I say left when I mean left, there's no telling whether my
spouse heard left or right (and he has a PhD in math/physics). We do just
fine. Unless you find yourself spending a great deal of time each day
saying "Pick up that toy to yor right" and the like, I'd suggest ignoring
this for a while!
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From: r...@woozle.emp.unify.com (Ruthann Biel)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:18:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Dyslexia, left from right
On Jul 1, 10:15pm, Mary Katherine Chisum wrote:
" Subject: (home-ed) Dyslexia, left from right
"
" Does anyone out there have any experience or ideas on how to teach a 9
" year old with a touch of dislexia how to tell left from right? Any games
" or fun things to practice without being too boring or drilling? Any
" help would be appreciated. This problem has just surfaced.
"
" Thanks,
" Kathy
"-- End of excerpt from Mary Katherine Chisum
What hand does your child write with? Can he/she associate left or
right with the pencil hand? That works for my boy.
(Of course, if your child is ambidexterous, we need another idea.)
--
RuthAnn Biel | Patrick's mother. We homeschool.
r...@woozle.Emp.Unify.Com |-------------------------------------
+1 916 381 4205 | Sacramento, California
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From: "I am not a man, I AM A FREE NUMBER" <br...@csc32.ENET.dec.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 96 09:35:52 PDT
Subject: Re: Dyslexia, left from right
About telling right from left for a dyslexic ...
One major problem a dyslexic may have is grasping that Right and Left are
relative ...
A few years ago my wife and I went square dancing ... Some people had
incredible problems with left and right ... and these were people from
30-70! We always made jokes out of it ... "Not that right hand ... your
OTHER right hand!" for example. One neat thing that the caller would do
would be to call a dance "in reverse". An "a la main left" for example would
be called as an "a la main right" ... talk about confusing people ... but
it always got people back on their toes.
Stuart
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From: "Susan O'Neal" <sus...@fay.infi.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:08:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Dyslexia, left from right
At 10:15 PM 7/1/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone out there have any experience or ideas on how to teach a 9
>year old with a touch of dislexia how to tell left from right? Any games
>or fun things to practice without being too boring or drilling? Any
>help would be appreciated. This problem has just surfaced.
>
>Thanks,
>Kathy
I still do not know this. I write with my right and start to write to tell.
My mom is a lefty and has a scar on her left arm in the shape of of an l and
looks at it.
Susan O'Neal
sus...@fay.infi.net
The object of teaching a child
is to enable him to get along
without his teacher.
Elbert Hubbard, 1856-1915
American Writer, Editor
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From: ee...@ix.netcom.com (elaine stearns)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:01:27 -0700
Subject: Re: Dyslexia, left from right
Kathy wrote:
> <<snip>>
>>Does anyone out there have any experience or ideas on how to teach a
>>9 year old with a touch of dislexia how to tell left from right?
>>Kathy
>
Pamela wrote:
<snip>
>Kathy,
>
>First of all, try not to consider this a problem. My entire family
(at least three generations) consists of bright, interesting people who
have trouble telling right from left. We all have rich, full lives and
none of us have been imprisoned or sent to psychiatric hospitals!
>
>The few tricks we've used: Extend arms straight out in front with
hand bent upwards at the wrist, palms pointing away from body and
thumbs extending toward one another, The hand that makes an 'L' with
the index finger and thumb is the left hand.
Same problem here. And all the usual hints (the hand you write with,
the hand you eat with, etc. didn't work because I use either hand.
Reminded me of my private pilot test. My flight instructor learned to
tell me to "turn to carburetteur heat side", or "turn to the pilot in
command side" (I think that's right and left, respectively, but I'm
not too sure even now). When the time came for my flight test, no one
told the examiner about my "peculiarity". I still recall his telling
me to "do a 360 (that's turn a circle) to your left....very good, now
do a 360 to your other left."
And I passed anyway.
BTW, I asked my husband, and he says the mouse is in my left hand.
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From: Amy Bell <amy...@rmci.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:26:33 -0600
Subject: Re: Dyslexia, left from right
At 10:15 PM 7/1/96 -0500, Mary Katherine Chisum wrote:
>
>Does anyone out there have any experience or ideas on how to teach a 9
>year old with a touch of dislexia how to tell left from right?
You might try the Sam Blumenfield article entitled "Dyslexia: The Man Made
Disease" at the Practical Homeschooling site under articles.
http://www.home-school.com
Also, keyboarding skills or piano lessons. . .
My dh's family contains several gifted people who still can't tell left from
right.
Good luck
Amy Bell
"It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." --Albert Einstein
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From: Terri Stuart <tst...@clandjop.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 21:39:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Curriculum pkgs
Angela Blackman wrote:
>
> OK all, this is my problem that I think is best answered by you all. :)
>
> We are on a very limited hs budget and I am faced with a growing mountain of
> hs catalogues that, when added up, can be slipped into the budget [if things
> are bought separately- a whole kit would set us back many many months].
>
> So, who has any experience with
>
> * A Beka's K5 readers/maths? Need 1st hand account on whether worth it.
> * Italic Handwriting Series from Bright Spark? I had already started my 4.5
> yo on bal and stick [ugly!] and wonder wether I should look at K level or
> 1st grade.
> * Get READY, Get SET, READ by National Dynamics?
>
>> So, any concrete ideas out there?
>
> ----- Angie
Angie,
I used Abeka phonics and loved them. I don't care for their readers. I
have several. The stories are too silly and there are too many readers
that are all the same. We use readers from an Amish publisher called
Pathways. The address is Pathway Publishers, 2530N 250W, LaGrange, Ill
46761. They are inexpensive real life stories and very wholesome. My kids
love them. We switched to Abeka math after two years of Mod. Curr. Press
and I absolutely think the Abeka math is worth every penny. Hope this
helps.
Terri
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