The reason for http://www.meh-sc.org/

MEHSC Moberator

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Nov 17, 2006, 2:41:08 AM11/17/06

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Here's a quick note about the reason for http://www.meh-sc.org/:

In the past, the Usenet newsgroup misc.education.home-school.christian was a
dreadful place for anyone interested in education, Trew Kristyun homeskoolas
discussed sundry topics unrelated related to the educational practice of
home schooling and called professional educators "trolls".

As a result of the inability of these brain-dead Trew Kriustyun homeskoolas
to look at educational issues via reflective praxis and their refusal to
engage in educational debate, the meh-sc newsgroup became less and less
useful as a place for good information or discussion

These brain-dead Trew Kristyun homeskoolas desired an exclusive forum
without the challenge from professional educators who posed questions that
they could not answer.

Fundamentalist Brandon Staggs had the rights to the name and formed
http://www.meh-sc.org/:. Below is a critique of
http://www.brandonstaggs.com/biblical-reasons-to-home-school.html which is
typical of most Christian fundamentalist home schoolers' erroneous beliefs
on education ...mainly based on Old Testament proof verses.

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>Offered here are just a handful of verses from God's word

This is one of the reasons homeschoolers should be very careful! Home
schooling is dominated by rabid fundamentalists who do not value learning
for the sake of learning. Brandon thinks the bible is the "Word of God'
when in fact it is an ancient collection of books about people's experience
of God. If one reads all the bible it clearly states that Jesus is the Word
of God (John 1: 1) Such verses seem not to be read by literalists.

> There are hundreds of reasons to reject the usage of the government
> education system, including social, moral, academic, ethical, political,
> and "religious" reasons. For a Christian, especially a Christian who
> values the authority of Scripture, God's own words on the matter should
> settle >the issue.

This is much the same type of introduction that Christian School advocates
give for their system to be the "one and only Christian way" to educate
children. It is simply not true in any aspect whatsoever. This is an
unsubstantiated biased claim based on subjective opinion on bible proof
verses taken out of context.

The word "school" does not appear in either the Old or New Testament and
therefore the bible cannot be used to back any particular school system.
Early Christians sent their children to classical schools. Educational
concerns about the classical schools (primary or secondary) Christians sent
their children to was not an issue in any of the New Testament letters. The
letters also fail to recognise anything concerned with church as schooling.

As William Barclay correctly pointed out:

"The New Testament lays down no kind of curriculum of training for the
child; the New Testament knows nothing about religious education and nothing
about schools; for the New Testament is certain that the only training which
really matters is given within the home, and that there are no teachers so
effective for good and evil as parents." (William Barclay, Educational
Ideals in the Ancient World, Grand Rapids, Mich: Baker Book House: 1974.,
p.236)

That is NOT to say that parents are naturally good at teaching academic
subjects! While professional teachers are best at teaching facts, concepts
and skills the changing of attitudes and value inculcation is best done by
parents who are not trained in teaching facts, concepts and skills. Use the
people best suited for what you want to achieve. It should be noted that
most home schoolers have no formal teaching qualifications whatsoever. It
is like refusing to send your child to a qualified professional surgeon to
have an operation and performing the task yourself on your kitchen table
because "as a parent I know the child better ... and surgery is only using a
knife ...which I use to cut up the meat and veg every day ... simple!" DIY
surgery is a metaphor of homeschooling.

In the 4th century the Emperor Julian challenged the Christians to take
their children out of the classical schools, where other gods were taught,
and to retreat to their own schools where they could be taught out of
"Matthew and Luke". He was determined to force on Christians the
educationalconsequences of the New Testament. The Emperor Julian uses the
word "anetos" to describe the children of Christian parents ... it means
"mindless". He suggested that they be cured by an Hellenistic education.
However, children were not penalised because of their parent's beliefs and
the classical schools remained open to all people. Two people named
Apollinaris (father and son) converted the bible into pseudo-classical
literature with the Pentateuch as a Homeric epic and the gospels as Platonic
dialogues because Julian compelled Christians to to work from texts written
in sub-classical Greek.

In subsequent centuries Christians developed a quasi-educational system to
teach the New Testament but this did not come into conflict with classical
schooling in any practical manner. basil, Bishop of Caesarea in Cappadocia,
wrote "To Young Men on the Advantages of Greek Literature" which suggested
that pupils need not be corrupted by their work, but the onus was upon
parents (and also secondarily teachers) within the church to train them in
Christian belief after school.

The historical fact is that Christians educated their children fully within
the secular system for the first four centuries after Christ's death in
spite of any contradiction that might have posed. They contradicted any
negative influence by biblical training at church and home.

Alternate schooling by fundamentalists, including home schooling, is a
reaction of their intimidated by pluralism and modernity. Jesus speaks of
being salt and light in the world not of running away from it. There would
be far fewer home schools if the world was stuck back in the 1950s where
fundamentalists wish to drag everybody.

> So here we attempt to explain a conviction we have through the only
> objective way possible: Holy Scripture.

Actually this is a very biased way which only works if you are a rabid
fundamentalist. Other Christians, like myself, do not take the bible as the
final word on anything. A Christian is meant to use their God given brain.
This explanation is also not useful for Moslems, Buddhists, Jews, Atheists,
Agnostics, etc etc etc. It ONLY works for fundamentalists ... just like
creation pseudo-science it is to be totally rejected as the subjective
opinion of fanatics.

Universal schooling is a modern invention and a culturally determined
phenomenon. As a result direct appeal to the bible as "proof" for a
schooling system is inadmissible.

The bible uses terms associated with the teaching ministry within a church
and educational metaphors but these cannot be honestly transposed to support
any Christian schooling concept. The Greeks had discussed education in much
the same terms as we do today by the time of Jesus ... but this is NOT what
the New Testament mentions.

The sacrifice that pleases God is that which engages the mind. (Romans
12:1).

> a heathen school

They are PUBLIC schools open to all, not "heathen" schools .... which is a
pejorative term. Should one also refer to home schooling as "home skoolun"
in the same manner?

There are many well educated professional teachers working in the public
schools who are Christians. I was one of them!

It saddens me that there are so many Christian parents in home schooling who
refuse to critically reflect on their choice of homeschooling and who
constantly demonise anyone who disagrees with them. I have been referred to
as a "troll" by people far less qualified to speak on the matter of
education and who have far less understanding of the bible. (See posts
to Trew Kristyun thugs at misc.education.home-school.christian)

Furthermore, there seems to be no professional reading of any high quality
done by homeschoolers. Having refused to even consider criticism their
refuge is in poorly written fundamentalist "books" which no worthy academic
educational journal would consider publishing. As a result they are left to
wander in a sea of mutual ignorance. It is not their ignorance that
worries me as much as the damage they do to innocent children who deserve
much better than the amateurish witchdoctor type "edjakashun" of home
schooling.

****************************

In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74

Censorship, the twin brother of propaganda, is the tool of despots, of
idealogues, of ayatollahs, of fantics. p.96

Franky Schaeffer "Sham Pearls For Real Swine" ( Wolgemuth & Hyatt;
Brentwood:1990) [Francis Schaeffer's son & Susan Schaeffer Macaulay's
brother]

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Wonder where all the brain-dead Trew Kristyun Homeskoolas who can't debate
are? They've run away to hide at http://www.meh-sc.org !

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

God expects you to use your God-given brain and engage in educational
debate - not run away! ;-)

Pastor Steve Winter

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Nov 17, 2006, 11:07:10 AM11/17/06

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The reason is the scum running dnews.tpgi.com.au are malicious
and incompetent and allow Mark Tindal to violate their TOS.

"MEHSC Moberator" <moi@765444789876436759878738597878534> spake
thusly and wrote:

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Nov 17, 2006, 5:15:53 PM11/17/06

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MEHSC MOBERATOR WARNING

Dear Trew Homeskoola "Pasta Steve Winter" <st...@prime.org>

I am refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. You make silence
a wonderful thing to look forward to. However I took exception to your
recent homeskool scribble.

It was:
[X] Illiterate
[X] Irrational
[X] Uninformed
[X] Written with a blunt crayon that had been stuck up someone's nose
[X] Written on a slate covered with puke
[X] Written on both sides of used toilet paper

Your attention is drawn to the fact that:
[X] You contradicted professional educators who know far more about
education than you will ever know in several lifetimes
[X] You contradicted yourself several times
[X] You agreed with infamous internet kook Steve Winter
[X] You mindlessly dribbled and belched several times
[X] You repeatedly assumed unwarranted spiritual, moral, intellectual and /
or educational superiority
[X] You mentioned nothing about real education but waffled on about
homeskool ratbaggery and DIY amateur experimentation on children
[X] You keep talking to yourself in Homeskoolese

It is recommended that you:
[X] Devote your life to homeskooling in Iraq and Afghanistan.
[X] Get an education
[X] Learn how to spell
[X] Stop your abusive DIY amateur experimentation on children
[X] Start up a Homeskool Klown Skool
[X] Pay the standard $100 (Aus) Abuse Fine to the Moberator for your
childish fearfilled abusive homeskool behaviour

QUESTIONS TO UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER:

[X] Are you from the shallow end of the gene pool?
[X] Do you want fries with that?

Please save this message and review it occasionally to determine your
progress toward being;

[X] a tolerable homeskoola
[X] a fully-functional human being
[X] integrated into humanity
[X] re-integrated into the wild

If what you don't know can't hurt you, you're practically invulnerable.

You are hereby WARNED that future posting in the manner outlined above may
void your standing as a MESHC Member and you will have to reapply.

Thank you for taking the time to read this warning.

The MEHSC Moberator
On behalf of the MESHC Committed

###################################################################
"HOMESKOOL - the alternative for those who are so deranged that they
don't want an education for their kids"
####################################################################

Get you Skool Suplice from Miss Poppy at "Downwind From The Homeskool"

Includes:

- Sister De Sade's Ten Commandments Ruler
- Bible Pencil Sharpener
- Jesus Walking On The Water Floaty Pen

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Nov 19, 2006, 3:27:41 AM11/19/06

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Pastor Steve Winter wrote:
> The reason is the scum running dnews.tpgi.com.au are malicious
> and incompetent and allow Mark Tindal to violate their TOS.
>

maybe you could sign up with them so you dont get TOSed any more.

Marty Carts

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Nov 22, 2006, 12:10:18 AM11/22/06

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I again have particular reason to complain
to Tindall's enablers. Could you remind
me again, Steve, what the responsive parties
would be? Tx in advance. _____________Marty

Mark T

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"Marty Carts" <p.addami...@att.net> wrote:

>I again have particular reason to complain
> to Tindall's enablers. Could you remind

> me again, Steve [WINTER!], what the responsive parties

> would be? Tx in advance. _____________Marty

....

> Pastor Steve Winter wrote:
>> The reason is the scum running dnews.tpgi.com.au are malicious
>> and incompetent and allow Mark Tindal to violate their TOS.

This is the type of ABUSE that is constant with Marty Carts
<p.addami...@att.net>

Notice he is in league with Internet Kook Pastor Steve Winter!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Steve Winter FAQ
http://users.rcn.com/sadams.enteract/winfaq.html
Things you may need to know if you have dealings with Steve Winter.

The Adams - Steve Winter FAQ
http://adamsemail.net/winter/winfaq.html
The Official Steve Winter FAQ contains important information to understand
why Steve Winter is such a problem on the net.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Trew Homeskoolas on misc.education.home-school.christian and at
http://www.meh-sc.org/: luv Steve Winter ....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Snapper" <davidvari...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "Pastor Steve Winter" wrote
>>I put some of our music videos on the web. Christian homeschoolers in
>>action. http://winterhaven.zippyvideos.com Pastor Winter

> Cool as! I've listened to a couple, my only negative comment is that I
> can't seem to download them .... they play great on-line but I'd still
> rather be able to listen off-line.

&

"Dalene Barnes" <dal...@txbarnes.com> wrote:
>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! Snapper and Winter! What a pair of
>> homeskoolas!!!!
...
> Steve, thanks for taking the time to posts the links!

&

"Jayne Kulikauskas" <jayne.kulikaus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pastor Winter. His posts on homeschooling are quite welcome and
> appropriate here.

&

"Wayne D. Schissler" schiss...@enter.net wrote:

> civil and lucid. Here, Steve has been both. I concure with Jayne's
> opinion.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Wayne D. Schissler, Jayne Kulikauskas, Chris & Dalene Barnes, David Varidel
and STEVE WINTER ! What a group of homeskoolas!!!!!

THAT explains why the people on misc.education.home-school.christian are SO
WEIRD!!!!
--

A complaint to Marty Carts' ISP is being forwarded.

Marty Carts contacted my ISP for DARING to have a different view to his
regarding education. Marty Carts merely wants CENSORSHIP of ALL opposing
views.

Marty Carts is an amateur DIY experimenter oin kids (aka homeskoola)

I have several degrees in education and 30 year experinece (K-12 & Adult)
including work in both Public and Christian schools ... and have helped
many homeschoolers during that time.

Who is the more qualified to speak about education??????

**********************************************

In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74

Censorship, the twin brother of propaganda, is the tool of despots, of
idealogues, of ayatollahs, of fantics. p.96

Franky Schaeffer "Sham Pearls For Real Swine" ( Wolgemuth & Hyatt;
Brentwood:1990) [Francis Schaeffer's son & Susan Schaeffer Macaulay's
brother]

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Pastor Steve Winter

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Nov 22, 2006, 11:22:32 AM11/22/06

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Marty Carts <p.addami...@att.net> spake thusly and wrote:

>I again have particular reason to complain
>to Tindall's enablers. Could you remind
>me again, Steve, what the responsive parties
>would be? Tx in advance. _____________Marty

The irresponsible scum at tpgi.com.au appear to be enabled by
powertel.net.au but if they were responsible or responsive at
powertel the mess at tpgi.com.au would already have been cleaned
up.

http://www.powertel.net.au/html1/home_page.htm

Investor relations at:
http://www.powertel.net.au/investor/index.htm

http://www.powertel.net.au/html11/enquiry_form.htm

Regards,

Pastor Winter

Marty Carts

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Nov 22, 2006, 3:46:24 PM11/22/06

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Thanks, Steve. ___________________Marty

Pastor Steve Winter wrote:

i_have_pers...@yahoo.com

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Nov 22, 2006, 7:51:44 PM11/22/06

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Pastor Steve Winter wrote:
> Marty Carts <p.addami...@att.net> spake thusly and wrote:
>
> >I again have particular reason to complain
> >to Tindall's enablers. Could you remind
> >me again, Steve, what the responsive parties
> >would be? Tx in advance. _____________Marty
>
> The irresponsible scum at tpgi.com.au appear to be enabled by
> powertel.net.au but if they were responsible or responsive at
> powertel the mess at tpgi.com.au would already have been cleaned
> up.
>
> http://www.powertel.net.au/html1/home_page.htm
>
> Investor relations at:
> http://www.powertel.net.au/investor/index.htm
>
> http://www.powertel.net.au/html11/enquiry_form.htm

I think I will write them and tell them how wonderful their service is.

>
> Regards,
>
> Pastor Winter
> --
>
snip

I was wondering why you dont call the Trinitarian christians here
"False Christian Scum" ?

i_have_pers...@yahoo.com

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Nov 22, 2006, 7:52:40 PM11/22/06

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Marty Carts wrote:
> Thanks, Steve. ___________________Marty
>
>\
Happy thanks giving Mr. Carts.

Jon Houts

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Nov 23, 2006, 12:43:17 AM11/23/06

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i_have_pers...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I was wondering why you dont call the Trinitarian christians here
> "False Christian Scum" ?

Check the archives.

J.Pascal

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Nov 23, 2006, 2:03:53 AM11/23/06

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Short version... he has. We just didn't see the point of staying
antagonistic over it. Why take offense? Everyone knows
what he thinks about the trinity, it's just him being him.

And since then he's posted on topic to homeschooling
in an inoffensive way from time to time. It's much nicer
not to hold grudges. Are we all supposed to stay mad
forever?

-Julie

Mark T

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Nov 23, 2006, 2:19:18 AM11/23/06

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"J.Pascal" <ju...@pascal.org> wrote:

> And since then he's [STEVE WINTER] posted on topic to >homeschooling in an

> inoffensive way from time to time. It's much nicer
> not to hold grudges.

Trew Homeskoolas formerly on misc.education.home-school.christian but now at
http://www.meh-sc.org/ luv "pasta" Steve Winter ....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Snapper" <davidvari...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "Pastor Steve Winter" wrote
>>I put some of our music videos on the web.
>> Christian homeschoolers in action.
>> http://winterhaven.zippyvideos.com
>> Pastor Winter

> Cool as! I've listened to a couple, my only negative comment is that I
> can't seem to download them .... they play great on-line but I'd still
> rather be able to listen off-line.

&

"Dalene Barnes" <dal...@txbarnes.com> wrote:
>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
>> Snapper and Winter! What a pair of homeskoolas!!!!
...
> Steve, thanks for taking the time to posts the links!

&

"Jayne Kulikauskas" <jayne.kulikaus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pastor Winter. His posts on homeschooling are quite
> welcome and appropriate here.

&

"Wayne D. Schissler" schiss...@enter.net wrote:

> civil and lucid. Here, Steve has been both.
> I concure with Jayne's opinion.

&

"Marty Carts" <p.addamiano-ca...@att.net> wrote:
> Steve Winter is *not* an unmitigated pain.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Wayne D. Schissler, Jayne Kulikauskas, Chris & Dalene Barnes, David Varidel,
Marty Carts and STEVE WINTER ! What a group of homeskoolas!!!!!

THAT explains why the people at http://www.meh-sc.org/ and formerly on
misc.education.home-school.christian are SO WEIRD!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Steve Winter FAQ
http://users.rcn.com/sadams.enteract/winfaq.html
Things you may need to know if you have dealings with Steve Winter.

The Adams - Steve Winter FAQ
http://adamsemail.net/winter/winfaq.html
The Official Steve Winter FAQ contains important information to understand
why Steve Winter is such a problem on the net.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Of The Dead)

"All things are probable. Try to believe." - Mark 17:1
"Really! Try to believe even if it's bloody stupid and
irrational." -Mark17:2
"Why? Because I said so, that's why! Don't ask questions. Just
believe." - Mark 17:3

J.Pascal

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Nov 23, 2006, 2:50:06 AM11/23/06

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Mark T wrote:
> "J.Pascal" <ju...@pascal.org> wrote:
>
> > And since then he's [STEVE WINTER] posted on topic to >homeschooling in an
> > inoffensive way from time to time. It's much nicer
> > not to hold grudges.

And it would go for you, too, Mark. Curious how you'd view
not holding grudges as something wrong. It actually makes
life much much nicer.

-Julie

Wayne

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Nov 23, 2006, 7:38:30 AM11/23/06

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On 22 Nov 2006 23:50:06 -0800, J.Pascal in
<news:1164268206.3...@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> wrote:

Yup, life's too short and hatred just eats at one's soul.

--
Wayne
http://www.meh-sc.org
.......................................................................
One of the most time-consuming things is to have an enemy. -E.B. White,
writer (1899-1985)

Vic Kulikauskas

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Nov 23, 2006, 12:12:52 PM11/23/06

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i_have_pers...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Pastor Steve Winter wrote:
snip

> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pastor Winter
> > --
> >
> snip
>
> I was wondering why you dont call the Trinitarian christians here
> "False Christian Scum" ?

He does.

Only here can you be called "False Christian Scum" by Steve, a "Trew
Kristyun Homeskoola" by Mark, and "not a real Christian" by Chris.
It's fun to see how many of them you can collect, and then you can put
the letters after your name, just as if they were degrees or medals.

Vic Kulikauskas, B.A.Sc., P.Eng., T.K.H. (I don't think I have the
other two yet, from what I can remember).

Theo Bekkers

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Nov 23, 2006, 7:33:58 PM11/23/06

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Vic Kulikauskas wrote:

> Only here can you be called "False Christian Scum" by Steve, a "Trew
> Kristyun Homeskoola" by Mark, and "not a real Christian" by Chris.
> It's fun to see how many of them you can collect, and then you can put
> the letters after your name, just as if they were degrees or medals.

I received my DFCS from Steve back in '96. Quite an achievement for an
atheist, I thought.

Theo Bekkers DFCS

Mark T

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Nov 23, 2006, 8:35:54 PM11/23/06

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"Vic Kulikauskas" wrote:

> "Trew Kristyun Homeskoola"

Speaking of which, don't you and Jayne have rosary beads to count or a few
Hail Marys to say?

--
"Ah, brother," said the confessor, "don't you know that whoever calls his
brother Raca is liable to hell fire? Now you have the misfortune to lead
anyone who reads you into immediate temptation to call you Raca. ... "
(Voltaire -The Jesuit Berthia)

Jon Houts

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Nov 24, 2006, 12:15:32 AM11/24/06

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J.Pascal wrote:

> Jon Houts wrote:

> > i_have_pers...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > I was wondering why you dont call the Trinitarian christians here
> > > "False Christian Scum" ?
> >
> > Check the archives.
>
> Short version... he has.

Wow! I thought mine was short, but you beat me by one word or two
sylables.

Jon Houts

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Nov 24, 2006, 12:22:27 AM11/24/06

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Vic Kulikauskas wrote:

> Vic Kulikauskas, B.A.Sc., P.Eng., T.K.H.

It doesn't sound anything like how it's spelled.

Jon Houts

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Nov 24, 2006, 12:36:05 AM11/24/06

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Theo Bekkers wrote:

> I received my DFCS from Steve back in '96. Quite an achievement for an
> atheist, I thought.

I think one or two atheists in this group got FCS designations, but '96
might make you the first atheist FCS.

Theo Bekkers

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Nov 24, 2006, 12:38:43 AM11/24/06

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Mine was a DFCS, the D stands for Dirt, a very important prefix. :-)

Theo

Pastor Steve Winter

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Nov 24, 2006, 3:59:00 PM11/24/06

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"Theo Bekkers" <tbek...@bekkers.com.au> spake thusly and wrote:

>Mine was a DFCS, the D stands for Dirt, a very important prefix. :-)
>
>Theo

Please excuse my mistake, but atheists and polytheists both
serve the same devil. So the distinction can be blurred, eh?

I'm sure that in hell the distinction between the atheist and
trinitarian will soon be forgotten.

Snapper

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Nov 24, 2006, 4:42:53 PM11/24/06

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"Pastor Steve Winter" wrote

> "Theo Bekkers" <tbek...@bekkers.com.au> spake thusly and wrote:
>
>>Mine was a DFCS, the D stands for Dirt, a very important prefix. :-)
>

> Please excuse my mistake, but atheists and polytheists both
> serve the same devil. So the distinction can be blurred, eh?

Ahhh ..... sorry to be picky on theological terms, Steve, but the sentence
ending "eh?" is a Canadian mannerism, here in the land of Oz we end
sentences with a party (after meeting our parole officer that is .......)

Wayne

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Nov 24, 2006, 5:14:07 PM11/24/06

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:59:00 -0500, Pastor Steve Winter in
<news:a5nem29ghev97lak9...@4ax.com> wrote:

> "Theo Bekkers" <tbek...@bekkers.com.au> spake thusly and wrote:
>
>>Mine was a DFCS, the D stands for Dirt, a very important prefix. :-)
>>
>>Theo
>
> Please excuse my mistake, but atheists and polytheists both
> serve the same devil. So the distinction can be blurred, eh?
>
> I'm sure that in hell the distinction between the atheist and
> trinitarian will soon be forgotten.
>
> Pastor Winter

Glad that's been cleared up.

--
Wayne
.......................................................................
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his
point of view. -Harper Lee

Jon Houts

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Nov 25, 2006, 12:34:37 AM11/25/06

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Theo Bekkers wrote:

> Jon Houts wrote:

Ah. I wasn't sure. I was thinking it may have been Dastardly, but
probably only because of Saxon Math.

fake_anon...@yahoo.com

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Nov 25, 2006, 4:47:45 AM11/25/06

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are you not to preach the good news to these poor souls??

Pastor Steve Winter wrote:
> "Theo Bekkers" <tbek...@bekkers.com.au> spake thusly and wrote:
>
> >Mine was a DFCS, the D stands for Dirt, a very important prefix. :-)
> >
> >Theo
>
> Please excuse my mistake, but atheists and polytheists both
> serve the same devil. So the distinction can be blurred, eh?
>
> I'm sure that in hell the distinction between the atheist and
> trinitarian will soon be forgotten.

You could help save them with your real preaching because you are a
real preacher??

Mark T

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Nov 25, 2006, 5:52:39 PM11/25/06

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Trew Homeskoolas on misc.education.home-school.christian luv "pasta" Steve
Winter ....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Snapper" <davidvari...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "Pastor Steve Winter" wrote

&

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

THAT explains why the people on misc.education.home-school.christian are SO
WEIRD!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Steve Winter FAQ
http://users.rcn.com/sadams.enteract/winfaq.html
Things you may need to know if you have dealings with Steve Winter.

The Adams - Steve Winter FAQ
http://adamsemail.net/winter/winfaq.html
The Official Steve Winter FAQ contains important information to understand
why Steve Winter is such a problem on the net.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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are? They've run away to hide at http://www.meh-sc.org !

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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MEHSC Moberator

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Nov 27, 2006, 12:05:02 AM11/27/06

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Here's a quick note about the reason for http://www.meh-sc.org/