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Friedrich C90A air cleaner: Anyone own one?

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john...@yahoo.com

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May 17, 2002, 1:59:59 PM5/17/02
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Been thinking abt buying a stand alone electro-static
air cleaner such as the Friedrich C90a in link below.

Does anyone own this unit and can give me some info abt
it such as how you like it?

http://genieac.com/c90.htm

Mark Lindeman

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May 17, 2002, 9:06:18 PM5/17/02
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We have two C90's -- recommended to us as the best value for money at
the time (maybe five years ago). I can't say whether it's true! I'm
assuming that the C90A is a later-greater variant of what we have.

My only comments are: (1) The box is a lot bigger than it looks in
that picture, so be aware that it'll take up some real space; (2) the
machine is remarkably quiet at "low." tolerable at "medium," and
obtrusive at "high" (but I've had small air filters that claim to be
quiet yet make a lot more noise on the "low" setting); (3) it seems to
work very well, at least on dust.

Mark

john...@yahoo.com

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May 17, 2002, 11:58:30 PM5/17/02
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>My only comments are: (1) The box is a lot bigger than it looks in
>that picture, so be aware that it'll take up some real space; (2) the
>machine is remarkably quiet at "low." tolerable at "medium," and
>obtrusive at "high" (but I've had small air filters that claim to be
>quiet yet make a lot more noise on the "low" setting); (3) it seems to
>work very well, at least on dust.
>
>Mark

OK Mark thanks.

When you say it seems to work very well on the
dust..... how are you "gaging" that?

By how much dust is in it when you clean it out? Or
what?

I want to buy one of these units..... but at $450 I
want to make sure I am getting something that really
works before I do. <G>

Neil Williams

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May 18, 2002, 1:04:43 AM5/18/02
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Check out this link for air purifier reviews:
http://www.allergybuyersclub.com/compare-air.html?source=goto

I just ordered a Blueair myself this week.

--Neil


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john...@yahoo.com

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May 18, 2002, 9:37:17 AM5/18/02
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>I just ordered a Blueair myself this week.

Why did you go with BlueAir?

Neil Williams

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May 18, 2002, 7:07:29 PM5/18/02
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The low noise was the biggest factor. Other important factors
were high ratings by 3rd parties - both objective performance
testing as well as subjective reviews. Plus it looks cool....

The ionization type filters like the Friedrich look very nice, but
I wouldn't have the patience to maintain the cleaning regimen.
Those collector-plate type of filters have a dramatic drop-off
in performance as the plates get dirty. Cleaning them is certainly
a lot cheaper than buying new HEPA filters, though.

--Neil


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john...@yahoo.com

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May 19, 2002, 10:52:42 AM5/19/02
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>The ionization type filters like the Friedrich look very nice, but
>I wouldn't have the patience to maintain the cleaning regimen.
>Those collector-plate type of filters have a dramatic drop-off
>in performance as the plates get dirty.

OK..... but how long can you use the hepa filters
before needing to change them?? Just curious.

Having a hard time deciding with what "type" of unit to
go for. <grin>

Bottom line tho....would you say that using an air
cleaner.....ANY air cleaner.....has proven to ease you
allergies and discomfort?

Also... you use your sin the bedroom, correct?

john...@yahoo.com

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May 19, 2002, 11:02:29 AM5/19/02
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>We have two C90's -- recommended to us as the best value for money at
>the time (maybe five years ago)

Mark.....did you buy your C90's locally... or thru the
mail?

If thru the mail...who from?

Neil Williams

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May 19, 2002, 4:00:16 PM5/19/02
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<john...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >The ionization type filters like the Friedrich look very nice, but
> >I wouldn't have the patience to maintain the cleaning regimen.
> >Those collector-plate type of filters have a dramatic drop-off
> >in performance as the plates get dirty.
>
> OK..... but how long can you use the hepa filters
> before needing to change them?? Just curious.

That varies by manufacturer and unit. The Blueair is every 6
months, which can get expensive quickly. Other types change
only a prefilter every 3-6 months and the HEPA filter every
2-4 years. Either way, maintenance costs will outweigh initial
purchase cost after a few years. From that perspective the
Friedrich is very cost-effective.

> Bottom line tho....would you say that using an air
> cleaner.....ANY air cleaner.....has proven to ease you
> allergies and discomfort?
>
> Also... you use your sin the bedroom, correct?

That's the plan. If I notice a reduction in allergies after using
it in my bedroom continuously for a few weeks, I'm going to
buy one or two more (probably IQAir) for the main living
areas of the house.

--Neil

john...@yahoo.com

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May 19, 2002, 6:20:24 PM5/19/02
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>That's the plan. If I notice a reduction in allergies after using
>it in my bedroom continuously for a few weeks, I'm going to
>buy one or two more (probably IQAir) for the main living
>areas of the house.

OK.....hnaks for your input Neil.

I guess that is my plan of attack also. <G>

However.....I am leaning towards the Friedrich unit

Mark Lindeman

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May 19, 2002, 8:44:56 PM5/19/02
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>When you say it seems to work very well on the
>dust..... how are you "gaging" that?
>
>By how much dust is in it when you clean it out? Or
>what?

Yeah, the crud when we clean 'em out _is_ pretty dramatic, but mostly
I'm gauging by how much better I breathe. No doubt the good HEPA
systems are even better, but we haven't felt cheated -- especially
since, as Neil points out, it's nice not to pay for filters over and
over and over again.

We actually didn't order these ourselves, so I can't tell you where
they came from! I'm pretty sure it was mail-order.

Mark

Joe Negron

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May 20, 2002, 8:41:11 AM5/20/02
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We bought this air cleaner back in January after reading about it in
Consumer Reports. They recommended it over the others in the report
largely because it has a washable electrostatic filter and it removed
more contaminants than the others.

It's a lot more expensive than HEPA-based air cleaners, but you don't
have any HEPA filters to buy, so in the long run it will be less
expensive, not to mention less of a hassle: my experience is that
finding various filters for air cleaners, humidifiers, etc. can be a
big hassle.

As far as its efficacy is concerned, it seems to work great - when we
cleaned the electrostatic filter, after about three months of mostly
continuous operation, the water was a very very dark brown (about the
color of strong coffee). Also, I've noticed that both the TV screen and
the computer monitor's screen need very little cleaning since the air
cleaner has been running. Finally, my wife sneezes a lot less often
now.

It's not noisy at low speed, making a not unpleasant low hum. The
manual recommends medium and high speed for "heavy" use. We haven't
found the need to use other than low speed.

Cleaning it is no big deal - we cleaned it after about three months of
mostly continuous operation, which seemed to be about the right amount
of time. Perhaps next time we'll clean it after two months considering
how dark was the water. If you have a dish washer, one big enough to
hold the filter, cleaning is pretty easy. If not, you have to soak it
in very hot water with a fairly strong concentration of detergent,
occasionally swishing the water, then rinse well.

BTW, the price at the link you provided is very good, assuming they
actually them in stock. We paid $449 for ours. We shopped around and
any store which claimed to have it for a (not very) lower price didn't
actually have any in stock, most claiming a wait of two months or so.

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It is preoccupation with possession, more than anything else, that
prevents men from living freely and nobly.

--Bertrand Russell
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Joe Negron from Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, NY, USA

john...@yahoo.com

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May 20, 2002, 9:07:30 AM5/20/02
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>Cleaning it is no big deal - we cleaned it after about three months of
>mostly continuous operation, which seemed to be about the right amount
>of time. Perhaps next time we'll clean it after two months considering
>how dark was the water.


Water?

I didn't realize there was any water in these units!

How is water utilized in the unit???

I am pretty sure I will go ahead an buy one soon....
just making "sure". <G>

Ed Blackman

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May 20, 2002, 3:23:43 PM5/20/02
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On Mon, 20 May 2002 13:07:30 GMT, john...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>Cleaning it is no big deal - we cleaned it after about three months of
>>mostly continuous operation, which seemed to be about the right amount
>>of time. Perhaps next time we'll clean it after two months considering
>>how dark was the water.
>
> Water?
>
> I didn't realize there was any water in these units!
>
> How is water utilized in the unit???

I think he was talking about the water used to clean off the filter,
not water that's used in the unit.

Ed

Private

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Jun 5, 2002, 5:32:57 AM6/5/02
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I noticed someone put a link to the http://www.genieac.com website...
I was going to get it from them but they are gouging on the shipping.
$55 per unit!? That's crazy, and we're in the same state. I could
this website has them for $425 and doesn't charge shipping:
http://www.promolife.com

Good luck guys, I'll let you know how I like mine, they don't arrive
in stock for a few weeks...

Jason


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