We do not drink the soft water directly, we run it through a reverse
osmosis filter, but our pets like to drink straight from the faucets.
We have noticed an orange tint that builds up over time on various
things that use the water (dishwasher, sinks, etc). From reading
these groups it would appear that using Iron Out may help. I have
read and been told it can be added to the softener, but I wanted to
see how safe this is first.
Thanks for all feedback on this issue!
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Chris
Hi Chris, the answer to your question is its very toxic, basically the
softener bypasses the water thru the head when its in a regeneration
cycle. So you can use water (not Softened) when this is happening.
Do this proceddure when your going to bed, that way nobody will be
using water anyways.
Iron is a softener killer, it coats the resin beads and the only way
to clean them is with a similar product like what you have mentioned.
Softeners can only remove small amounts of iron (depending on the size
you have) it sounds like you really need to address the iron issue.
If its showing on the appliances then I would have to say that your
softener isn't working either (no soft water)or the capacity of the
softener will be reduced so you will be running out of soft water
really quick.
Hope this helps.
Garry
The product [fluoroboric acid] causes burns to eyes, skin and mucous
membrane.
Ingestion may cause gastro-intestinal irritation, nausea,
vomiting and/or diarrhoea.
The argument that is frequently advanced is that Iron Out and other like
materials are introduced with the brine in the softener and the brine
solution with the added chemicals are then passed over the ion exchange
resin during the regeneration process and then the resin is back washed
and rinsed with water. Supposedly all brine and chemicals are removed
this way. In theory it may work but in practice I submit that it may
not. I sometimes can taste salt just after a regeneration so the rinse
is not flawless. Of more concern is what happens when the seals in the
softener mechanism wear out or fail so that the brining, backwash and
rinse operations do not occur as intended. Then you could have large
unintended amounts of residual brine and chemicals mixed with your
"softened" water.
I don't like adding anything toxic to the water my family or I drink.
Even if it "may" be removed before I drink it. Machines do fail and the
risk of possibly ingesting something toxic is too great.
RB
"Garry Rossong" <kwtse...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Right AFTER regeneration is when the iron gets through on my Water
Boss softener. I think all the movement during the softeners
regeneration process breaks the particles free. Typically I just run
a faucet for about 10 seconds or so. It's most noticeable if a toilet
is the first fixture used right after regeneration. The water in the
bowl will be a little cloudy, flush the toilet again and everything is
fine. If not flushed again the iron settles out after a few hours and
leaves the orange film. A little bit of Iron Out in the bowl and it
disappears like magic. It's pretty minor and doesn't effect sinks,
tub or Jacuzzi.
I've kept the cloudiness at a minimum by programming my softeners back
flush time to it's maximum setting, using iron reducing salt and more
frequent regenerations (every 400 gallons).
About every 4 months I do use Iron Out in the softener. When I
replaced my well pump the softener took a big hit after disturbing
100' of 20 year old poly tubing. I was getting really nasty brown
water after regeneration which didn't clear up until 50+ gallons were
used. I contacted Water Boss and they sent me instructions on their
approved process of using Iron Out (not in the regular manual). The
crap that came out was mind boggling. I repeated the process 4 times
until things finally cleaned up. Now I just use it regularly to keep
it operating at its peak.
The Iron Out should be completly flushed away during regeneration
process but I don't believe any softener is going to be 100% fool
proof...to be on the safe side, every time I use the Iron Out, I do
wait a few hours and then manually start a second regeneration. Also
just as a precaution the 10 year old house rabbit goes on bottled
water for a few days.
I also recommend contacting the manufacturer of your water softener to
find out what process they recommend. Mine was quite a bit different
than the generic instructions on the Iron Out bottle.
George
Just to address Garry's questions I know that the softener is
producing soft water, and we haven't run out of soft water before.
Also the softener itself is about 1 year old. But I should probably
have the water re-tested, the hardness is high (22) so I'm guessing
the iron level must also be very high.
Thanks for all of the information, I really appreciate it!
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Chris
I've been doing this for about 7 years and have never tasted any
traces of a foreign chemical or salt in the drinking water. My well
water has quite a bit of iron and I also have a whole house filter
after the water softener. I've never had a problem with my water
softener as a result of the iron.
However, I am skeptical of using salt that contains a iron removing
product. Some people say water from a water softener with the iron
removing salt pellets has a funny taste.
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I just got off the phone with Morton Salt company and they answered my
question.
The active ingredient in Morton® Rust Remover Super Pellens® is Citric
Acid. I am very familiar with the ability of citric acid to remove
iron and iron stains. It does an exceptional job!! If your dishwasher
tub is iron stained, fill the detergent dispenser with citric acid,
and run it through a cycle. You'll be amazed how this stuff makes the
tub look new. Here's a source for citric acid.
http://www.chemistrystore.com/Citric_Acid.htm
Its health risks are non-existent as far as I'm concerned. Citric acid
is present in many food products at much higher concentrations than
what you'll find in your treated water. If it was in your softened
water at concentrations as high as what is found in Kool-aid or
Sweet-Tarts, your water would be sour. Now that I know this, I would
use the Morton pellets instead of Iron Out.
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