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Bob Opalko

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Mar 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM3/30/95
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Howdy all,

The wife & I were wanting to do some major gardening this year
- fountains, trellis', etc. We wanted to do a good bit of
planning before we start and were looking into a landscaping
program for the PC.

Any recommendations? We have seen one called something like
'3D Landscape Designer' that looked pretty good but wanted more
info before shelling out $60 ...


Thanks!
Bob Opalko
cc...@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu

George Dodge

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Apr 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/3/95
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Bob Opalko (cc...@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu) wrote:
:
: Any recommendations? We have seen one called something like

: '3D Landscape Designer' that looked pretty good but wanted more
: info before shelling out $60 ...

Shop around Bob! I saw 3D Landscape Designer for sale at Comp-USA for $10
a few months ago.

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Dave Clark

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Apr 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/3/95
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In article <3lesoj$i...@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> Bob Opalko <cc...@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu> writes:

>Any recommendations? We have seen one called something like
>'3D Landscape Designer' that looked pretty good but wanted more
>info before shelling out $60 ...


I received this for a birthday gift this year. If what you're looking for is
a 3D plan that will show you roughly how things will look when placed in the
yard - plants, trees, decks, buildings, walkways, hedges, etc. then it is a
decent program. It gives a fairly good 3D rendition that allows for change of
views and will show you shadow casts for time of day and time of year.
My only complaints about the program are that the plant database is too small
and there is no way to add to it. I understand this is being addressed in the
next release. It is also not easy to enter curves and there is no fill
feature for say putting in the lawn or ground cover.
They have a WWW page where you can download a sample. http://www.btw.com

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Mike Nickerson

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Apr 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/5/95
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Dave Clark (dcl...@wellspring.us.dg.com) wrote:

While I was Beta testing the program, I found a way to essentially area fill
the grass. You put down the grass first, then draw the sidewalks and gardens
over them. The program draws the stuff in that order so you get grass
everywhere you don't put something over top of it. This worked well for me.
However, I still found corners and circles difficult to do.

I hope this helps.

Mike Nickerson
mi...@boi.hp.com

Jon Shemitz

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Apr 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/7/95
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In article <3lesoj$i...@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu>,

Bob Opalko <cc...@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu> wrote:
>The wife & I were wanting to do some major gardening this year
> - fountains, trellis', etc. We wanted to do a good bit of
>planning before we start and were looking into a landscaping
>program for the PC.
>
>Any recommendations? We have seen one called something like
>'3D Landscape Designer' that looked pretty good but wanted more
>info before shelling out $60 ...

3D Landscape Designer is one of the crappier pieces of software I've ever
been foolish enough to buy. (3D Home Architect is quite another story.) If
I hadn't foolishly followed 3D LD's (cynical?) advice to fill out the
registration card while it installed, I'd have taken it back.

Unordered list of peeves:

* "Show shade" is jerky and sluggish, on a P90 with a 64-bit accelerated video
card.
* The database of plants is pathetically limited, and biased towards
ornamentals: not a fruit tree in sight.
* You can't do something as simple as plopping down a bench on a diagonal.
* No greenhouses in the structures.
* The "3D view" is pathetic. You can't say "stand here and look there", the
way you can with 3D HA - you can basically just pick on of a very few
orientations. Don't be so foolish as to include the fence around your
garden if you want to see in ....
* The user interface is awfully clunky.

Basically, it's biased towards "landscaping", not "gardening". Lots of advice
on picking the right lawn seed, whoopee.
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W. John Guineau

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Apr 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/8/95
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j...@armory.com (Jon Shemitz) wrote:

[interesting comments on 3D LD deleted]

Jon, could you tell us more about 3d HD? Like cost?
Features? Does it allow both inside and outside design?

john
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Jon Shemitz

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Apr 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/11/95
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> Jon, could you tell us more about 3d HD? Like cost?
> Features? Does it allow both inside and outside design?

By 3D HD I assume you mean the "3D Home Architect" program I referred to
in my pan of "3D Landscape"?

I got it for (I think) $60 from PC Connection, in New Hampshire. (I
called at 10PM and had it the next day at 2 PM!)

It's basically a simplified and specialized CAD program: It knows about
walls and doors and cabinets and furniture and such. You plunk down
various items, and can then resize them as necessary. Walls and
cabinets connect automatically. You can specify details like the number
and size of drawers in a cabinet; trim sizes on doors; window styles;
&c. You can position a camera anywhere in the house and look in any
direction. You can edit within the 3D view just as within the plan
view. (OK, it's a bit harder to select objects, but you can easily
adjust a cabinet's height &c - and changes in the plan are automatically
reflected in the 3D, and vice versa.) There's also an "elevation" (flat
on wall view) and a "bird's eye" view looking down and in that's not
unlike the sole 3D view that 3DLD offers.

It has a very limited amount of outside design. You can certainly see
the outside of your house and your decks &c, but there are only three
very generic types of plants (as opposed to fairly wide variety of
appliances and furniture).

W. John Guineau

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Apr 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/15/95
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j...@armory.com (Jon Shemitz) wrote:

>> Jon, could you tell us more about 3d HD? Like cost?
>> Features? Does it allow both inside and outside design?
>
>By 3D HD I assume you mean the "3D Home Architect" program I referred to
>in my pan of "3D Landscape"?

Yes.

>
>I got it for (I think) $60 from PC Connection, in New Hampshire. (I
>called at 10PM and had it the next day at 2 PM!)
>

[info deleted]

Thanks for the information. It sounds as though this is more of an
internal design/layout rather than a landscaping program...

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