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sr

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Nov 13, 2009, 9:30:34 PM11/13/09
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Tony Sivori

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Nov 14, 2009, 11:13:30 AM11/14/09
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sr wrote:

> http://www.thegreenestdollar.com/2009/02/want-to-live-in-a-shipping-container/

The good: I'd think that these would be a whole lot more sturdy than a
traditional mobile home.

The bad: Everything else! This essentially reinvents the mobile home. Sure
the shell is cheap and sturdy, but after that it is all economic
disadvantages.

To make a shipping container fit for human habitation you'd need interior
walls, insulation, flooring, plumbing, electrical, HVAC, lighting,
windows, doors, foundation, paint, cabinets, fixtures, and don't forget
the labor for all of the above.

I think it would be cheaper to buy a habitable but fixer upper house, or a
new or used mobile home.

It doesn't seem green, either. The shipping containers are almost 100%
steel, and so are highly recyclable. There doesn't seem much truly gained
by re-purposing them.


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sr

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Nov 14, 2009, 12:23:48 PM11/14/09
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"Tony Sivori" <TonyS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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0000
I've done a lot of research. Need to look deeper. they are like legos you
can snap one to another,buy as you can accumulate money, good for those
starting out, More solid than trailors. You can spray foam the inside before
sheetrock, or you can use panels. I like this type of work, so no problem.

If you can find unrestricted land, that is. That's my problem, right now.

Good books on plumbing and wiring. In this state, after you are finished,
DIY, you need a master elec. to wire into the Master Elec. box, is all. You
can do this yourself. I did. Bought a 9th house, practiced on it, took
adult ed classes, learned elec. practiced it on the house. Only had to call
the firedepartment Once. Every once in awhile I drive by the place to see
if it's still standing, It is


Tony Sivori

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Nov 14, 2009, 3:20:55 PM11/14/09
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sr wrote:

> I've done a lot of research. Need to look deeper. they are like legos
> you can snap one to another,buy as you can accumulate money, good for
> those starting out, More solid than trailors. You can spray foam the
> inside before sheetrock, or you can use panels. I like this type of
> work, so no problem.

Have you added things up? That's not a rhetorical question, I really would
like to see a list of how cheap you could go from shipping container to
habitable home.

It seems to me that it can't be done cheaper than acquiring an existing
structure and applying the materials and labor to a priced right piece of
real estate.

When you buy a container, to make it habitable, you would have to buy
*everything* but the exterior walls and a roof.

> If you can find unrestricted land, that is. That's my problem, right
> now.

I'm wondering why you want unrestricted land. You obviously have some
knowledge and practical experience. It should not be any trouble for you
to meet code. Every line in the building and electrical codes are there
because someone was killed, injured, or suffered damage to property.

The code protects the public. It isn't an arbitrary bureaucracy.

> Good books on plumbing and wiring. In this state, after you are
> finished, DIY, you need a master elec. to wire into the Master Elec.
> box, is all. You can do this yourself. I did. Bought a 9th house,

9th house? I've never heard of that, and Google didn't produce anything
relevant.

> practiced on it, took adult ed classes, learned elec. practiced it on
> the house. Only had to call the firedepartment Once.

Yikes!

> Every once in awhile I drive by the place to see if it's still standing,
> It is

Having skill and experience, and already having leaned from past
mistakes is a very valuable asset.

sr

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Nov 14, 2009, 6:15:21 PM11/14/09
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"Tony Sivori" <TonyS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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9 thousand dollar house, I bought for an experiment, to see if I had the
git, and the fortitude to do the job.
At this low price, I could afford to make mistakes.-
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I am not interested in housing codes, reason for unrestricted land. No
codes. Fee will, self responsibility. If it goes wrong, you have only
yourself to blame. That's how I live my life, which is getting more
difficult as society becomes more and more a "nanny state" putting
restrictions on its citizens.


clams_casino

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Nov 15, 2009, 4:24:38 PM11/15/09
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sr wrote:

>---
>I am not interested in housing codes, reason for unrestricted land. No
>codes. Fee will, self responsibility. If it goes wrong, you have only
>yourself to blame. That's how I live my life, which is getting more
>difficult as society becomes more and more a "nanny state" putting
>restrictions on its citizens.
>
>
>
>

And pity the poor sucker who may eventually own your (dangerous) piece
of crap.

Thanks for an excellent example as to why building codes are a necessity.

Of course, it's people like you who have made the need for so many laws
of protection.

sr

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:51:43 PM11/17/09
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sr

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"clams_casino" <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote in message
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======You are welcom, house is remodeled and standing after all these years,
you are just jealous that someone
is selfsufficient , makes errors, learns from mistakes and takes it to the
next level.
Or, I could just whine and go on the state like the young fellow next door.


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