How can we fix the world (or at least transportation) without God?
On Aug 21, 3:03 pm, Day Brown <dayhbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 08/20/2010 08:47 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 12:49 am, Day Brown<dayhbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 08/19/2010 10:58 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> >>> We shouldn't be tempted to make sweeping statements such as the fast
> >>> train is the solution and bicycle is not. You don't travel from Miami
> >>> to Orlando everyday.
> >>> Most trips in America are done to the market and possibly under a
> >>> radius of 5 miles, or could be done if we drop Walmart in favor of the
> >>> local store.
> >> I find that a sweeping statement. You are not going to carry a week's
> >> worth of groceries and supplies home on a bike.
> > That's what I can carry with any of my bikes. But you always have an
> > excuse to ride more often to the market if not as well prepared.
> >>> The solution is a combination of the above, and take into
> >>> consideration that we could be riding faster bikes to cover our sprawl
> >>> instead of the heavy European bike.
> >> Americans are also a buncha fat slobs who wont ride a bike, much less do
> >> so if its raining. They will ride a golf cart or electric car to the
> >> corner store or local mall to bring home whatever, and would use it to
> >> commute if it also rode the train so they can drive off the train and go
> >> to work.
> > Yes, they have been bred that way by careful manipulation. That could
> > change though as they try riding a bike and shedding pounds.
> But they are not going try in the first place because of the
> manipulation. I'm not saying your ideas are not good, but that they cant
> be sold because of corporate profits - that pay for advertising - that
> in turn blind the eye of the media to real solutions.
They won't be sold, but they can either be put in place in other
nations or be fought for recognition right here.
Same, same situation with the stupid prohibition. It won't be America
leading the way, but it's bound to be abandoned by some nation who's
tough enough to do it.
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> >> It'd be much better for them to ride bikes more, but that's not upta us.
> >> I'm outlining a project the fat bastards would actually get behind. The
> >> vehicle carrier rail could get to the urban hub ten minutes or more
> >> sooner, and to the lazy bastards that makes all the diff.
> >> I've used my golfcart to haul firewood out of the woods; but properly
> >> equipped for urban streets, it'd easy go 4-5 miles and back on flat
> >> pavement at 25 mph.
> > Some of them are street legal here in Florida (Bombardier type), but
> > not advisable under conditions where the big fish eats the little
> > fish.
> I dont claim golf carts or even electric cars would be appropriate
> everywhere. And certainly, you may find enlightened communities promote
> bikes.
Bombardier is not exactly a golf cart...
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/t/r/troprent/ford.htm
They are FRIENDLY COMMUNITY VEHICLES not intimidating GATED COMMUNITY
SUV'S.
> I've noticed a trend of transnationals investing in towns of 10k to 50k
> rather than major metro areas. When a town is only 50,000, you can ride
> a bike from one end to the other; its only a couple miles. People have a
> lower cost of living, business has more profit.
> But for the major metro areas, the only kind of public transport that'll
> work needs to carry the electric vehicle, and if it does, the time and
> cost of the commute will be less, and therefore get funding.
What will work is breaking the MONOPOLY OF THE AUTOMOBILE, very
similar to the rule of the dinosaurs and encourage smarter ways of
life to emerge: EV (low and high performance), BICYCLES, SCOOTERS and
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
The vehicle above cost peanuts compared to the Volt. And LIVING WITH
PEANUTS is what the revolution is all about!
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REVOLUTION!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzCjGgrewYY&feature=search
SOLUTIONS...
That's right. They are technically legal in Florida, but the Law of
the Jungle (intimidation) takes care of them.
The minute I let loose my Quaker Parrot (medium size), my parakeets go
scrambling. She only wants to play with them, but never mind.
I wonder what would happen if I bought one and challenged the status
quo.
This is your opportunity, Ed. No God, no monkey, just solutions.
WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION?