> Why people don't wash their hands after
> they are finished with the bathroom?
Basically because its not that big a deal except for the pathetic neurotics.
You dont get even minor health problems if you dont bother.
> I mean, I saw one guy washing his hands before going to the bathroom!
He may have needed to wash his hands and the
running water made him feel like having a piss as well.
> The soap and water are free (business establishments),
> but most people are so lazy to keep their hands clean!
Or they arent pathetic neurotics and realise that you
dont get even minor health problems if you dont bother.
> Let's always use soap and water....cause it's free!! Keep 'free' alive!!!
Let go of your dick before you end up completely blind.
And wash your hands before posting here.
My cousin is a chemist for a large company and he says that's how you can
tell who all the chemist's are in the restroom.....they wash their hands
before going.
Kay
You are aware that military manuals suggest that in the absence of
sterile material to lavage a wound, the most sterile way to wash it
out is to piss on it? Urine is sterile unless the person has a
bladder infection (something less likely in men than women).
Following is my published response to a "filler" article in a
newspaper. The filler was a prepackaged article by the soap industry.
The editor of the paper took the rare step of admitting that the
filler had not been properly vetted and never should have been allowed
to run.
Men dirtier than women? I'm shocked, shocked at this revelation by
the "American Society for Microbiology and the Soap and Detergent
Association" on their website washup.org.
It is plain to me that this "Society" is engaging in politically
incorrect sexist, men-hating, illicit spying in bathrooms. Perhaps I
would feel less violated if the survey sponsors dropped the charade,
and simply said "Boys, you aren't buying enough of our soap. Women
are better customers."
People reading the article by Lauran Neergaard of the Associated Press
are instead fed the line "Wednesday's results mark the American
Society of Microbiology's latest look at how many people take what is
considered the single easiest step to staying healthy: spending 20
seconds rubbing with soap under the faucet."
What self-serving hyperbole! What else could I do that would keep me
healthy and happy, that is really easy? I could avoid being
influenced by industry patsies.
Is the shortening of the name in the story to "American Society of
Microbiology" significant? Unless this is a different totally
independent microbiology society that isn't funded or influenced in
any way by the soap industry, I would think that it just might be.
The tactics of special interest groups like this have been around for
as long as there has been capitalism. Grabbing free filler space in
newspapers with phoney "press releases" has been used for years.
Playing the sexes off each other to increase sales is another
surprisingly common trick. Mommy sees the article, points it out to
naughty little Johnny, Johnny bows his head and washes his hands more.
Johnny's sister, little Jill, gets to feel superior because girls are
good -IF- they wash their hands. Habits set in childhood carry
through to the adult years. More soap gets sold.
The survey setting of "public restroom behavior" is a deflection.
The "survey" results are not designed to increase hand washing at
Atlanta's Turner Field baseball stadium, but in the home. If some
microbiologist was really serious about the paucity of males washing
hands at the stadium, he could take a clue from Jeff Foxworthy and
easily remedy it with a sign over the sinks "Win a chance for a free
beer! Win a chance to see somethin' nekkid! Only men who wash at
this sink eligible!" Men need motivation before lining up to do
something that isn't needed.
What do I mean, hand washing isn't needed? Stop and consider the
differences in plumbing between men and women. When contemplating a
#1, men are probably better off washing BEFORE relieving themselves.
The area of the anatomy in question probably remains clean from the
morning shower, while the hands have been working on the car, cleaning
the cat pan, or worse. Am I shocked that women wash more regularly?
Not really.
The article continues on in a psuedo-scientific bent by adding "the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says poor hand-washing
contributes to almost half of all food borne disease outbreaks." Of
course that is true, but unless the restroom users are preparing food,
this statement has little or nothing to do with the reported survey.
It merely provides another motivation to use soap.
The soap sellers wrap up with "With influenza season approaching,
microbiologists warn that it is easy to catch a cold or the flu by
shaking hands with someone who just used that hand to cover a sneeze.
The viruses can stay alive for two hours on hands, and for 20 minutes
on hard, dry surfaces those germy hands touch." So, what does this
have to do with washing after using the restroom? Not much, unless
you sneezed while using the facilities and had the sudden urge to
shake the hand of the fellow at the next urinal.
A few years back, I saw a similar "scientific survey" by the paper
towel manufacturer's group. They claimed that after the average
public restroom hand washing, the only people that left with truly
clean hands were... drum roll please... the people that dried their
hands on paper towels.
After writing this, I hope you'll excuse me. I have this sudden urge
to wash my hands.
I'm not a chemist but 50% of the time I will wash hands first; mostly
because they feel grungy from keyboard use or eating. Afterwards it's
just habit to wash (used to work in restaurants where it's supposed to
be mandatory). I can't wait for the day all public restrooms have
automatic faucets that turn on when a hand is present, self flushing
commodes, auto dispensing paper towel racks and auto doors that open
out without touching (because of all those who didn't wash). It's not
a fantasy, with the exception of the door many newer or remodeled
restrooms have these amenities. But don't expect them at the local BP
or AM/PM Minimart (not that I go there..just saying).
The auto-dispensing paper towel thingies are awesome, if the restroom has a
TRASH CAN located near the exit door. You are supposed to wash your hands
thoroughly, then leave the water running while you use paper towels to dry
your hands. After your hands are dry, you use the (now wet) paper towels to
turn off the water. Then you use the (wet) paper towels to open the exit
door. Prop open exit door with foot and throw paper towels in trash can.
Works great. No need to touch anything in the bathroom after your hands are
clean.
Only problem is, most bathrooms have the trash can located a great distance
from the exit door. Plus, many of them have no paper towels. So it doesn't
matter if the water faucets are no-touch and the hand dryers are no-touch,
as you still need to touch the doorknob with your bare hand on the way out.
(so why bother washing at all?) -Dave
Of course in an "ideal" world all these devices are functional and
stocked; the layout also compliments the devices (such as the trash can
next to or under the paper towel dispenser). Of course we could lose
the paper towel dispenser and have the hot air dryer instead? Simplest
answer of course is to make sure we do our business before we leave the
house thereby negating any need to visit these less than maintained
rest facilities.
>
> I can't wait for the day all public restrooms have
>automatic faucets that turn on when a hand is present, self flushing
>commodes, auto dispensing paper towel racks and auto doors that open
>out without touching (because of all those who didn't wash). It's not
>a fantasy, with the exception of the door many newer or remodeled
>restrooms have these amenities. But don't expect them at the local BP
>or AM/PM Minimart (not that I go there..just saying).
>
>
>
At a previous job, someone always left their crumpled paper towel on the
floor near the exit. There was not room for a container near the door
and the slob didn't want to touch the door upon exiting, but was too
lazyass to dispose of it elsewhere.
You never spend more than an hour or two away from home?
I don't suppose that you care if the restaurant workers that prepare
your dinner do so either.
Bob
Actually, the "auto dispensing" ahnd towel dispoensors are a joke. You end
up air drying your hands because you have to wave them so much to get a
paper towel from it.
> You are supposed to wash your hands thoroughly, then leave the water
> running while you use paper towels to dry your hands. After your hands
> are dry, you use the (now wet) paper towels to turn off the water. Then
> you use the (wet) paper towels to open the exit door. Prop open exit door
> with foot and throw paper towels in trash can. Works great. No need to
> touch anything in the bathroom after your hands are clean.
Who said that's the way it is "supposed" to be? I guess that I missed that
sign in the bathrooms. Maybe that's the way that *you* do it...
<snip>
What I hate is with most public bathroom sinks, the faucet it too close to
the sink and your hands end up touching the back of the sink, just I'm sure
everyone else's hands do also. True, their hands should be clean at this
point, but still... They need to make the faucet longer towards the middle
of the sink so your hands are more towards the middle of the sink
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But that would cost them a few pennies more, so they went with the
lower quote.
Luckily for us, Cecil Adams has already addressed exactly this question:
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_220.html
Don't you feel informed now?
- Logan
>> My cousin is a chemist for a large company and he says that's how you can
>> tell who all the chemist's are in the restroom.....they wash their hands
>> before going.
> I'm not a chemist but 50% of the time I will wash hands first; mostly
> because they feel grungy from keyboard use or eating.
You have good intuition:
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_printer_friendly?release_id=40596&category=
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Health/story?id=1214223&page=1
... at least if those articles are to be believed.
- Logan
whoever handles the food should be wearing gloves.
It's not about what you got on your hands, it's about what other
folks had on their hands, when you touched something that they
touched.
You do flush and use the door, do you not?
My procedure (so everyone can make fun of how anal i am):
get towels
wash hands
use one side of towel to turn off water
dry with other side of towel.
use towel to open door.
dispose of towel in can on my way back to the cube.
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May no harm befall you,
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The paper towel dispensers at work have a stupid little crank
you have to turn to get a towel (I'm not talking about an employee).
So I wash, then crank a little, wash again, tear off some towel
to use as a glove, then crank out enough to dry my hands.
At one restroom, for some reason, they have one of those trash bins
with spring-loaded flaps that makes it impossible to toss the towels
without have the flap touch your hand. So I just toss the used paper
towels on top of the bin.
Don
Nope, they didnt even think about it, let alone have a quote with better taps.
> You are aware that military manuals suggest that in the absence of
> sterile material to lavage a wound, the most sterile way to wash it
> out is to piss on it? Urine is sterile unless the person has a
> bladder infection (something less likely in men than women).
Then there's that unspeakable Ghandi fella who used to drink his own piss.
Not surprising that he ended up looking like he did.
Love stuff sold by street vendors.
Yeah, but they're still going to be touching stuff in the kitchen (even if
it's just a few items) before putting the gloves on. They should wash
their hands after using the restroom.
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>> whoever handles the food should be wearing gloves.
>
> Yeah, but they're still going to be touching stuff in the kitchen (even if
> it's just a few items) before putting the gloves on. They should wash
> their hands after using the restroom.
Alternatively I suppose they could put on gloves when using the restroom
and thus avoid washing their hands. Heck, they could even get by using
single-ply TP then.
Don
> At one restroom, for some reason, they have one of those trash bins
> with spring-loaded flaps that makes it impossible to toss the towels
> without have the flap touch your hand. So I just toss the used paper
> towels on top of the bin.
I work in a grocery store. They finally got smart and removed the flap.
so, now it is easy to toss the towels in.
As far as washing, I am much more concerned with what others may have
had on their hands. If somebody was sick and touched the flusher and
the door handle, then I really don't want that on my hands as I leave
the bathroom to eat or to go prepare food for customers.
I wash my hands, and I use the paper towel to open the door. I am then
required to wash my hands again when I get to my department. That is a
health department rule.
Also, the health department tells people during the food safety handler
course to use the paper towels to open the bathroom door, and to throw
the towel on the floor if no garbage can is available. They figure if
enough people throw towels on the floor, the business will provide a
garbage can in the correct location.
Old joke time:
A man decides to try out a new restaurant. Immediately, he is struck
by the efficient movements of the staff as they serve the customers.
After being seated, the man notices that his spoon is dirty and brings
it to the server's attention. The waiter apologizes and immediately
replaces the dirty spoon with a spoon from his apron pocket.
The man is impressed and comments on the quick action.
The waiter says, "Yes, sir. We pride ourselves in our quick,
efficient service, so we have devised a number of tricks, like
carrying extra silverware, to make things run more smoothly."
Later, during his meal as another server fills his water glass, the
man notices the waiter has a string hanging from his fly and comments
on it.
The waiter replies, "Oh yes, sir. That is one of our efficiency
measures -- when I use the restroom, I just use the string to pull out
my penis, so I don't have to take time to wash my hands afterward."
"But how do you put it back without soiling your hands?" the man asks.
"Simple, sir," the waiter replies, "I just use a spoon I keep in my
pocket."
Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
>
> I'm not a chemist but 50% of the time I will wash hands first; mostly
> because they feel grungy from keyboard use or eating. Afterwards it's
> just habit to wash (used to work in restaurants where it's supposed to
> be mandatory). I can't wait for the day all public restrooms have
> automatic faucets that turn on when a hand is present, self flushing
> commodes, auto dispensing paper towel racks and auto doors that open
> out without touching (because of all those who didn't wash). It's not
> a fantasy,
And it's all pretty pointless, since as soon as you leave these
automated restrooms and go anywhere public your back to square one
(like touching the exit door handle of the store that had the public
restroom)
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/05/10/tem_tem1germ.html