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Ways to conserve energy & fuel

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Joe

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May 21, 2008, 2:21:43 PM5/21/08
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Al Bundy

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May 21, 2008, 7:05:55 PM5/21/08
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On May 21, 2:21 pm, Joe <useful_in...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Some tips:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/conserve.html

It does help to review these tips from time to time and tighten up
one's energy game
I disagree with selling the desktop in favor of a laptop for energy
savings. A desktop can be worked on and parts exchanged so much more
cheaply. I could not put up with a tiny laptop screen compared to the
big screen monitor. Also, I've never been a fan of spending money on a
Kill-A-Watt because I favor reading the face plates and knowing what
the power draw is. Then again, I have an amp meter I could use if I
had a question.
All suggestions need to be considered in the user's circumstance. An
expensive electric space heater is often more expensive than more
global heating with a cheap source of gas, if there is such a thing
these days.

Peter Franks

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May 21, 2008, 7:38:20 PM5/21/08
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"If you're going to spend $$ for coffee, spend it at a warm, lighted,
sit-down cafe where you will get:
free electricity for your laptop or for a charger
free warmth in winter, which is cheaper than heating your home
free napkins to use in the car or home "

Pure feel-good garbage.

NOTHING is conserved here, you are just transferring the direct costs of
these goods to the shop owner who then indirectly passes the costs back
to the consumer by way of higher prices.

If you are going to conserve, stop drinking coffee and don't go mooch
off of other people.

larry

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May 21, 2008, 10:06:47 PM5/21/08
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Several months ago when StarBux did the retraining shutdown,
local TV was interviewing the inconvenienced. One guy was
really upset because he had several hours of internet
business stuff to get done. The reporter asked about
missing the coffee and he said he never bought anything
there ;-)

--larry / dallas

Fran

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May 21, 2008, 10:42:46 PM5/21/08
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On May 22, 9:38 am, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
> Joe wrote:
> > Some tips:
>
> >http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/conserve.html
>
> "If you're going to spend $$ for coffee, spend it at a warm, lighted,
> sit-down cafe where you will get:
> free electricity for your laptop or for a charger
> free warmth in winter, which is cheaper than heating your home
> free napkins to use in the car or home "
>
> Pure feel-good garbage.
>
> NOTHING is conserved here, you are just transferring the direct costs of
> these goods to the shop owner who then indirectly passes the costs back
> to the consumer by way of higher prices.
>

I wouldn't disagree there.

> If you are going to conserve, stop drinking coffee and don't go mooch
> off of other people.

True. Of course, one can have cheap warmth by wearing warmer clothes,
having better insulation, having a better designed home, making use of
ground heat, passive solar etc. It may well make sense to live in
medium or high density buildings where the capital costs of energy
efficiency can be spread across more users per area of space and where
each user demands less space. If this enables you to live closer to
work, then there's another energy saving.

Fran

val189

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May 22, 2008, 7:59:41 PM5/22/08
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On May 21, 2:21 pm, Joe <useful_in...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Some tips:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/conserve.html

Five to 10 minute showers? Get real. Get a low flow head with a shut
off valve. Some frugalistas even collect the water in a bucket and
use it to flush the john, water plants, wash the floor.

Poetic Justice

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May 22, 2008, 8:39:31 PM5/22/08
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My brother has 4 teenage daughters.... They think a 10 minute shower is
some kind of water boarding torture.

The Real Bev

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May 22, 2008, 11:39:30 PM5/22/08
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val189 wrote:

> On May 21, 2:21 pm, Joe <useful_in...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Some tips:
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/conserve.html
>
> Five to 10 minute showers? Get real.

Huh? If you want to soak, fill the tub. Showers are designed for speed.

> Get a low flow head with a shut
> off valve. Some frugalistas even collect the water in a bucket and
> use it to flush the john, water plants, wash the floor.

--
Cheers,
Bev
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