Although we are a traffic school, we want to help you avoid getting
traffic tickets. Avoid having to go to a defensive driving course like
ours and avoid paying more money on your insurance policy.
First you need to know that there are two major types of traffic
tickets – tickets for moving violations and tickets for non-moving
violations. Moving violations include speeding, failure to obey
traffic signs or lights, illegal turns, or doing anything else illegal
while your car is in motion. Non-moving violations are for offenses
like parking your car illegally.
TICKET FACTS:
Every year, over 34 million people receive a traffic ticket from a
police officer. Most traffic tickets charge fines averaging around
$150.00. 34 million tickets at $150.00 equals profits of over $5
billion. The money collected from traffic tickets supports much of our
civil service industry, including police officers, accountants, court
secretaries, bailiffs, judges, district attorneys, insurance
companies, attorneys, and traffic schools like ours at,
www.internettrafficschool.com
The number one rule of not getting a traffic ticket is not putting
yourself into the position of looking like you should get one. Here
are some of the things you should be aware of. Your car's color,
modifications, condition, cleanliness, and stickers.
The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is to make sure that nothing
about your car draws an officer's attention. Flashy and bright colors,
particularly red, draw a person's attention, namely a cop's attention.
Light, pastel colors have a tendency to blend with the environment and
dark colors like black not only blend in, they look serious. So, if
you have chosen a brightly colored vehicle, know that your chances of
getting pulled over are higher than the racer in the black car
speeding past you. Thus, be more wary about that you are more visible
if your car is red.
MODIFICATIONS:
Any additional sound or light modifications can also draw a cop's
attention. Neon running lights, thumping sound also mean that with
your cool-style points, you will also get more points on your license
(the more points you get on your license, the closer you are to losing
your license, possibly permanently). And, cops also seem to hate
tinted windows. If you don't have tinted windows, don't get them. If
you do, make sure you immediately roll all of your windows down the
minute you get pulled over. This allows the cop better vision into
your car giving her/him more confidence about the situation. When the
cop is relaxed, your chances of avoiding the ticket are better.
CONDITION:
Cars, like clothes, make can make a good or bad impression. People who
take care of their cars look like they're responsible drivers. And a
dented car is one that has gotten into accidents before, thus catching
a cop's eye better.
APPEARANCE:
The cleanliness of your car also makes a definite impression with the
cop who pulls you over. Make sure the exterior of your car is clean,
but also focus on the interior. Clean out the inside of your car from
clutter. Make sure that your glove box is fairly clean so that you
don't have to search for your registration.
STICKERS
There are two kinds of stickers that you should really avoid, anything
anti-cop or pro-violence. The second kind that are drug related such
as dope stickers or Grateful Dead stickers will catch a cop's eye and
usually lead them to make assumptions about drug use.
TICKET QUOTAS
Most police departments give traffic tickets on a quota system. This
means that there are some times of the month when you are more likely
to get a tickets. First, be wary during the first week of a month;
this is when the most aggressive cops give out the most tickets.
Second, be wary the last week of the month; this is the time when cops
who haven't given many tickets are under the pressure to give out
more. And on Sundays mornings, because it is easy to give out tickets
to people going to church, good people = a smaller chance of getting
shot
GETTING PULLED OVER
When you get pulled over, you naturally think to not say anything at
all for fear of saying the wrong thing. TALK! Because silence is often
an indication of something to hide.
The first thing you need to know is what to call the cop that pulls
you. So you need to try to guess the officer's proper title:
If the officer's uniform has three or more stripes, chances are, (s)he
is a Sergeant.
One or two stripes usually indicates a Corporal.
An officer with no stripes but in a State Police car is a Trooper. No
stripes and a County car is a Deputy. If you aren't sure, stick with
"Officer."
DO NOT treat a female cop differently. Don't say anything to a female
cop that you would not say to a male cop.
HOW TO GET OUT OF IT
CRY: If you're willing to try to get out of a ticket you probably
deserve, you may have to cry because police tell us that works. But
you have to really CRY. Let it all out in a sobbing, hyperventilating,
bawling kind of cry. When the officer asks you if you are okay, just
say no. Tell him/her that you're scared. Just make it believable. And
keep on crying.
BEG: If the cop seems intent on writing you a ticket, tell them you
just can't afford the fine. They may at least charge you with a lesser
offense than what they had originally planned. Tell the officer that a
ticket on your record could impact your job. Or mention that you might
get in huge trouble at home for a ticket..
DON"T SAY THESE THINGS:
1. "What's the problem officer?" This immediate response most people
have has become a cliché for officers. They hate it.
2. "Was I ________?" (fill in with whatever traffic rule you were
violating). A guilty admission from you that you knew you were doing
something wrong.
3. "I'm sorry" unless you really mean that you are truly sorry because
this usually stands for, "I'm sorry that you caught me."
4. "You just stopped me because I'm ________." Put your race in here.
If the cop is racist then this remark isn't exactly going to help your
situation and might serve to anger the officer. And if the officer is
not racist, then you've just accused him/her of it.
5. "I'll see you in court," This will put the officer on defense and a
defensive cop is more likely to give you a ticket.
6. NEVER get out of the car unless instructed to do so.
7. NEVER reach for your pockets or under the seat without first
explaining why.
8. NEVER open your glove box unless asked to do so by the officer.
9. NEVER allow your passengers to talk to the officers unless
instructed to do so.
10. NEVER consent to a search of your car without first asking for
probable cause.
GOING TO COURT:
So none of our advice worked and you are going to court. All is not
lost however. Over 95% of traffic tickets are not contested, but
that's because people are lazy, pay up or choose to go to traffic
school. Naturally, as an online traffic school (
http://www.internettrafficschool.com ) we are biased but going to
traffic school is in 90% of the cases your best alternative because it
is really hard to win in court. 97% of all traffic court cases are
decided in favor of the officer, that is reality. And if you go to
court and lose, you can't go to traffic school, your ticket will go on
your record and your insurance will go up.
Anyway, slow down, follow our rules and you won't be using us. You
will be ticket-free.
Karen Hamilton
Internet Traffic School
http://www.internettrafficschool.com
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>There are reasons why some people get more traffic tickets than
>others.
True. People who drive faster often get more speeding tickets
.........
> >GOING TO COURT:
If you ask for a court appearance when it is not mandantory, the
officer who wrote the ticket must show up in court, otherwise the
case is dismissed. and I believe Nolo Press has a book on this .
"Some say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one." John
<sup...@internettrafficschool.com> wrote in message
news:21fb0b72.04102...@posting.google.com...
> There are reasons why some people get more traffic tickets than
> others. We have a poll on our website for our students to take and
> they have given us some helpful information and some tips to get out
> of tickets. If there is anything else that anyone can add to this,
> please do and we will put it in our course.
>
> Although we are a traffic school, we want to help you avoid getting
> traffic tickets. Avoid having to go to a defensive driving course like
> ours and avoid paying more money on your insurance policy.
>
> First you need to know that there are two major types of traffic
> tickets - tickets for moving violations and tickets for non-moving
>
> There are reasons why some people get more traffic tickets than
> others. We have a poll on our website for our students to take and
> they have given us some helpful information and some tips to get out
> of tickets. If there is anything else that anyone can add to this,
> please do and we will put it in our course.
A couple of things that have worked in the past...
1)"I was just keeping up with traffic"
Didn't work, I got the ticket. I went to court to
fight it. Said the same thing to the judge. Althought
I elaborated with "I wasn't going faster that any other car,
I wasn't weaving in and out of traffic, I can't understand
why I got a ticket." And it helps to stand there with a
befuddled look on your face.
Ticket thrown out.
2)I was pulled over while driving across the country.
When the cop asked what I was doing I replied
"Enjoying my constitutional right to traval without
hinderance"
He told me to have a good day and walked away.
3)I once got a ticket that wasn't mine. I wrote
"Refused for fraud" across the top and sent it
back. Never heard back.
YMMV
--
Just my $0.02 worth. Hope it helps
Gordon Reeder
greeder
at: myself.com
Where is George Bush leading this country
and what are we doing in this hand basket??
Would you all let us put some of these traffic ticket stories on our website?
They are really good.
karen
www.internettrafficschool.com
Internet Traffic School
_______________________
Gordon Reeder <GonzoG...@all.to.myself.com> wrote in message news:<Xns958AE28CA6E7Cgr...@216.168.3.44>...
Sure, no problem.
But you have to understand that there were times that I
had to pay the ticket. You win some, you lose some.
>An observation I have made. Thirty/Forty years ago young females
>were among some of the safest, most careful drivers on the road.
>Insurance companies actually gave them preferential rates over young
>males. Jump forward to today. Young females appear to be some of the
>most risky chance taking drivers on the streets.
I have noticed this also, particularly with tailgating. This is
especially troubling since, in my experience and observations, most
young females do not engage in some of the driving antics that many
young males do as a rite of passage -- manuevers that tend to get them
more practice with the behavior of their vehicles when pushed to the
limits. Sort of a gut-level feel for the physics of driving. So,
many young females are taking the daily risks without even cursory
skills to fall back on if things do go wrong.
Dennis (evil)
--
The honest man is the one who realizes that he cannot
consume more, in his lifetime, than he produces.
That may have something to do with cell phones.
>
> I have noticed this also, particularly with tailgating. This is
> especially troubling since, in my experience and observations, most
> young females do not engage in some of the driving antics that many
> young males do as a rite of passage -- manuevers that tend to get them
> more practice with the behavior of their vehicles when pushed to the
> limits. Sort of a gut-level feel for the physics of driving. So,
> many young females are taking the daily risks without even cursory
> skills to fall back on if things do go wrong.
Anyone who tailgates doesn't have much of a feel for the physics
of driving. Male or female, there's just no time to react.
Don
Agreed, but I notice more females doing it in hazardous road
conditions around here. Just my observation.
>Agreed, but I notice more females doing it in hazardous road
>conditions around here. Just my observation.
around here, it's old men in pick-up trucks. they seem to get some
weird thrill out of getting rightonmyarse. i drive a toy car, so i
guess they think it's funny?
the roads here are twisty, turny, and hilly, and, because of asswagon
drivers, are getting more and more dangerous by the day. on the back
roads, they go barreling around blind curves on *my* side of the road.
i've been driven completely off the road too many times to count.
i've also had to swerve into *their* lane to avoid them. oye.
the same crap goes on on the highway, too. and there, we get the
added thrill of suicide passers. the speed limit is 55mph. even when
i'm going 5mph over the speed limit, someone invariably comes
barreling up behind me and passes me. that's just not safe on this
road, especially when they do it on blind curves, on hills, and in the
ice and snow. it's not a rare occurrence, either. it happens at
least 3-4 times each week. if people have a death wish, that's all
fine and dandy. i just wish they'd leave me out of their sick agenda.
oh, and can someone please explain why Mr. Red Jeep Cherokee would go
barreling past me, then once he's around me, slow down to 45mph. my
guestimate is that he's doing about 70 when he passes me. *why* does
he then slow down? it happens 4-5 times each month. (and, yes, it's
the same person each time. that's one of the um, perks, of living in
the country.)
--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
Color! What a deep and mysterious language, the language of dreams.
-- Paul Gauguin
>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:20:10 -0700, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Agreed, but I notice more females doing it in hazardous road
>>conditions around here. Just my observation.
>
>around here, it's old men in pick-up trucks. they seem to get some
>weird thrill out of getting rightonmyarse. i drive a toy car, so i
>guess they think it's funny?
Bad phrasing on my part. I meant I see more young females doing it
these days than in years past.
>oh, and can someone please explain why Mr. Red Jeep Cherokee would go
>barreling past me, then once he's around me, slow down to 45mph. my
>guestimate is that he's doing about 70 when he passes me. *why* does
>he then slow down? it happens 4-5 times each month. (and, yes, it's
>the same person each time. that's one of the um, perks, of living in
>the country.)
Here's one of my favorites: the country road I live on joins on to a
two-lane highway (one lane in each direction). A few miles closer to
town, the 55 MPH two lane highway becomes four lanes, but the speed
limit drops to 50 MPH as it passes through a small townlet with more
side roads entering the highway. Quite often, traffic backs up behind
someone driving under the 55 MPH limit on the two lane section, only
to have them speed up to 55-60 MPH when they get to the four lane
section (with the reduced speed limit). WTF?
Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
>Here's one of my favorites: the country road I live on joins on to a
>two-lane highway (one lane in each direction). A few miles closer to
>town, the 55 MPH two lane highway becomes four lanes, but the speed
>limit drops to 50 MPH as it passes through a small townlet with more
>side roads entering the highway. Quite often, traffic backs up behind
>someone driving under the 55 MPH limit on the two lane section, only
>to have them speed up to 55-60 MPH when they get to the four lane
>section (with the reduced speed limit). WTF?
oooh! you tell *me*! we have a similar set-up through one of towns
between where i live and where i work. the same thing frequently
happens.
there's another brand of slow poke. this variety goes 45-50 all the
way to town, then, when the road changes to 4-lane and you finally get
a chance to pass, pops out into the passing lane in front of you.
*why*? they aren't passing anyone and they aren't turning off
anywhere. i finally decided it's some sort of mind game.
the red Jeep i mentioned has done that several times. on one
occasion, when i switched back to the outside lane, he did likewise.
every time i tried to change lanes, he did, too. creepy. now,
whenever i see that car, i pull off the road and wait awhile so that
he can get far, far ahead of me. i don't know what game he's playing,
but i don't want any part of it.
what is wrong with people?
--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
We walked 5 miles backwards to get where we are today.
-- Melora (Rasputina)
> oh, and can someone please explain why Mr. Red Jeep Cherokee would go
> barreling past me, then once he's around me, slow down to 45mph. my
> guestimate is that he's doing about 70 when he passes me. *why* does
> he then slow down? it happens 4-5 times each month. (and, yes, it's
> the same person each time. that's one of the um, perks, of living in
> the country.)
He just wants to make sure you know who's the boss. It never occurs to
him that it also ensures that you know who's the idiot.
--
Cheers, Bev
============================================
Buckle Up. It makes it harder for the aliens
to suck you out of your car.
The ones that get me are the ones who pull out of a side road right in
front of you (with or without stopping first), and proceed to poke
along 15 mph below the limit. Of course it always happens when
there's no place to pass.
>shelly wrote:
>
>> oh, and can someone please explain why Mr. Red Jeep Cherokee would go
>> barreling past me, then once he's around me, slow down to 45mph. my
>> guestimate is that he's doing about 70 when he passes me. *why* does
>> he then slow down? it happens 4-5 times each month. (and, yes, it's
>> the same person each time. that's one of the um, perks, of living in
>> the country.)
>
>He just wants to make sure you know who's the boss. It never occurs to
>him that it also ensures that you know who's the idiot.
I'd be sure to report this behavior to an area sheriff or cop, and
have the tag number handy. It ain't normal behavior if he does it
more than a couple of times.
> oh, and can someone please explain why Mr. Red Jeep Cherokee would go
> barreling past me, then once he's around me, slow down to 45mph. my
> guestimate is that he's doing about 70 when he passes me. *why* does
> he then slow down?
He basically wants to travel at 45 and cant do that with you in front of him.
When I read this, my first thought was that you must live in Southern
Indiana, and from your e-mail address, it looks like I'm right!
I've driven all over this country, and people around here love to
tailgate, and also don't realize that the reason there are two sides to
a road is so that they can drive on one half and someone else can drive
on the other half. They want to take their share right out of the middle.
Most people do not constantly weave in and out of lanes but
there are a few who do.
The usual case is that there is one lane going slower than
another and people in that lane will try to move into the
faster lane when they can. One way of looking at this is that
you are all on the same road and traffic flows fastest when
all lanes are moving well. They were ahead of you anyway, so
just readjust that space again.
Don
>He just wants to make sure you know who's the boss. It never occurs to
>him that it also ensures that you know who's the idiot.
ha! thank you for adjusting my perspective on the issue!
--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
P is for Prue trampled flat in a brawl.
-- Edward Gorey, The Gashlycrumb Tinies
>The ones that get me are the ones who pull out of a side road right in
>front of you (with or without stopping first), and proceed to poke
>along 15 mph below the limit. Of course it always happens when
>there's no place to pass.
yeah, and invariably, it's when there's no one behind you. why on
earth can't they wait until you pass?
--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
We need men who can dream of things that never were.
-- John F. Kennedy, Dublin 06/28/1963
>I'd be sure to report this behavior to an area sheriff or cop, and
>have the tag number handy. It ain't normal behavior if he does it
>more than a couple of times.
i know i should, but i don't have a cell phone, so i can't report it
as it happens. and, since it's dark when i drive to work and i don't
want to get any closer to the lunatic than i have to, getting his
plate number is a little tricky.
--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
Color is the place where our brain and the universe meet.
-- Paul Klee
>When I read this, my first thought was that you must live in Southern
>Indiana, and from your e-mail address, it looks like I'm right!
yep. i live west of Spencer and work in Bloomington, so i get to
battle Hwy 46 every day. blech. at least they (mostly) have gotten
the Ellettsville nightmare resolved.
>I've driven all over this country, and people around here love to
>tailgate, and also don't realize that the reason there are two sides to
>a road is so that they can drive on one half and someone else can drive
>on the other half.
that sort of thing is horrible on the back roads. the road i live on
is really only 1.5 lanes wide and dangerously twisty and hilly, so i
realize it's difficult to keep to your own side, but under the
circumstances, it seems like it's even more important to do so. i
just don't get it.
>They want to take their share right out of the middle.
yep. and, get this! one of my coworkers has a relative who drives a
school bus. i was complaining about the driver on my route running me
off the road whenever i passed him. she said that drivers are
instructed to take their halves out of the middle! call me silly, but
that strikes me as dangerous to both the kids and other drivers.
--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but
progress.
-- Joseph Joubert
But remember the kid on the southside of Indy last year who got killed
riding the school bus? The bus driver was in the correct lane when the
kid stuck his head out the bus window. He smacked his head on a tree
next to the road and died. Maybe the schools are afraid of something
like that happening again.
The road I live on is about 1 1/2 lanes wide as it goes up a hill. When
the driver who picks up kids on our route is running early, this idiot
will stop on the hill to wait and get back on schedule. The reasoning
for stopping on the hill is that if she stops on top of the hill, the
families will see her waiting and get ticked off that she's not moving.
I guess it's a better idea to block traffic. Oh well, that's Indiana.
I've called the school corporation transportation office on bus drivers
several times this fall. For some reason, the drivers have decided that
they no longer have to stop at stop signs out in the country. I had two
of them in a row pull out right in front of me. Now maybe the first bus
had enough room, although I didn't think so, but when the second bus
followed right behind and almost clipped the front of my car, I got ticked.
I still get to the same intersection at the same time as these two buses
about two times a week. I've noticed that they stop now, but maybe it's
only because they figured that I must be the one who reported them and
they recognize my mom-mobile.
This is one of the reasons that my kids never rode the school bus. I've
driven them to elementary and MS, and DH does high school duty until the
kid gets a license and can drive themselves. (The other reason is that
I transferred my kids within the district to a better school with better
teachers than the school I live closest to.)
>I still get to the same intersection at the same time as these two buses
>about two times a week. I've noticed that they stop now, but maybe it's
>only because they figured that I must be the one who reported them and
>they recognize my mom-mobile.
>
>This is one of the reasons that my kids never rode the school bus.
It used to be worse. The last couple of years of high school we were
bussed to a regional "union" school about ten miles away. New England
winters and roads being what they were, the trip was always
interesting. It was about ten times more interesting when we got to
ride on Charlie D's bus. Going down iced twisting narrow hill roads
at 50 mph, and turning 90 degree corners at 40 mph guaranteed that
every kid on the bus stayed in his or her seat and held on for dear
life. AFAIK, Charlie never got into an accident, but it may have been
because drivers who noticed the telltail roostertail of snow behind
his speeding bus hit the ditch to make room for him.