Frugal Indoors Painting
Corrado Soprano
(28.00) at my local Home Depot, but I'm clueless about what's good and would
hate to go with the RL just for the name of it, though two people I know say
it is much better. The walls have already been primed.
Also, how much should I be looking to pay for this job (3 bedroom 2
bathrooms on a Duplex)? Should I negotiate on a per hour rate or the whole
job? What's a reasonable rate for NYC?
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"Corrado Soprano" <nospam_a...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
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> I need opinions of good paint. I've looked at Behr (22.00) and Ralph
Lauren
> (28.00) at my local Home Depot, but I'm clueless about what's good and
would
> hate to go with the RL just for the name of it, though two people I know
say
> it is much better. The walls have already been primed.
>
> Also, how much should I be looking to pay for this job (3 bedroom 2
> bathrooms on a Duplex)? Should I negotiate on a per hour rate or the
whole
> job? What's a reasonable rate for NYC?
>
> --
>
> William Batista
> NYC
>
Sherwin-Williams store. Behr used to be be good paint but the
quality/coverage is lower since they associated themselves with HD..
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>I need opinions of good paint. I've looked at Behr (22.00) and Ralph Lauren
>(28.00) at my local Home Depot, but I'm clueless about what's good and would
>hate to go with the RL just for the name of it, though two people I know say
>it is much better. The walls have already been primed.
I wouldn't recommend either one because all things considered, both are
of lesser quality than brands like Sherwin Williams and Benjamin Moore.
The Ralph Lauren paint, in particular, carries a big name premium, yet
it's a name not associated with paint. You also pay a premium for the
name Sherwin Williams, but in that case, it IS a name widely associated
with paint, and for good reason.
>Also, how much should I be looking to pay for this job (3 bedroom 2
>bathrooms on a Duplex)? Should I negotiate on a per hour rate or the whole
>job? What's a reasonable rate for NYC?
Hmmm... that I don't know. However, the more professional the painter,
the less likely you will be able to negotiate a per hour rate.
Unidentified Selasphorus
home, and I cannot praise it highly enough. A beautiful, non-dripping
paint with great coverage, and a great choice of colors.
I have no idea of what to pay someone to paint interior walls and
ceilings as I did it myself. It is a pretty easy job. You can also
do specialty jobs which would probably be too expensive to pay for or
which contractors would likely screw up. For instance, I painted one
of the bathrooms a rich cream color, then sponge painted over with
forest green. I put in green saltillo tiles on the floor. A friend
who works in a frame shop gave me a brass framed mirror to put over
the cabinet. It looks wonderful.
"Corrado Soprano" <nospam_a...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message news:<qH2J9.5715$K5.1927@fe01>...
Robert S.
<nospam_a...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>I need opinions of good paint. I've looked at Behr (22.00) and Ralph Lauren
>(28.00) at my local Home Depot, but I'm clueless about what's good and would
>hate to go with the RL just for the name of it, though two people I know say
>it is much better. The walls have already been primed.
>
>Also, how much should I be looking to pay for this job (3 bedroom 2
>bathrooms on a Duplex)? Should I negotiate on a per hour rate or the whole
>job? What's a reasonable rate for NYC?
I've tried the RL suede paint and it has a really nice texture to it
although its pretty expensive it was worth it. Their other paints
besides the special effect ones are pretty cheaply made and not worth
the extra money. Instead of Home Depot try a store that carries other
brands like Benjamin Moore, Pratt & Lambert, Cabot.. I personally use
BM for most of my painting because its cheap and quality is decent.
bob
mj
"tre...@sirius.com.no.more" wrote:
> "Corrado Soprano" <nospam_a...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
> >I need opinions of good paint. I've looked at Behr (22.00) and Ralph Lauren
> >(28.00) at my local Home Depot, but I'm clueless about what's good and would
> >hate to go with the RL just for the name of it, though two people I know say
> >it is much better. The walls have already been primed.
>
> I wouldn't recommend either one because all things considered, both are
> of lesser quality than brands like Sherwin Williams and Benjamin Moore.
> The Ralph Lauren paint, in particular, carries a big name premium, yet
> it's a name not associated with paint. You also pay a premium for the
> name Sherwin Williams, but in that case, it IS a name widely associated
> with paint, and for good reason.
My vote is for Benjamin Moore - perhaps a bit more cost/gallon, but I've always
found it's coverage to be excellent resulting in need for less paint and less
work. I've been burned too many times trying to use "inexpensive" paints such as
Dutch Boy, Behr and some others of which I don't recall the brand name.
Don K
> My vote is for Benjamin Moore - perhaps a bit more cost/gallon, but I've always
> found it's coverage to be excellent resulting in need for less paint and less
> work.
I agree. Years ago Consumer Reports rated Benjamin Moore as tops and I've
used it ever since. I figure if I'm going to put in the time to paint, it doesn't
make sense to use cheap stuff.
Don
Mieko
>The Behr paint is EXCELLENT! I just painted the interior walls of my
>home, and I cannot praise it highly enough. A beautiful, non-dripping
>paint with great coverage, and a great choice of colors.
>"Corrado Soprano" <nospam_a...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:<qH2J9.5715$K5.1927@fe01>...
>> I need opinions of good paint. I've looked at Behr (22.00) and Ralph Lauren
>> (28.00) at my local Home Depot, but I'm clueless about what's good and would
>> hate to go with the RL just for the name of it, though two people I know say
>> it is much better. The walls have already been primed.
I've also heard from friends that the RL paint they used was horrible, and
even after multiple coats it didn't cover smoothly. Consumer Reports did a
evalution of different paints, you might want to look that up. I've heard good
stuff about Behr, and I used American Traditions and liked it.
Mieko
lpogoda
Corrado Soprano wrote in message ...
>I need opinions of good paint. I've looked at Behr (22.00) and Ralph
Lauren
>(28.00) at my local Home Depot, but I'm clueless about what's good and
would
>hate to go with the RL just for the name of it, though two people I know
say
>it is much better. The walls have already been primed.
>
>Also, how much should I be looking to pay for this job (3 bedroom 2
>bathrooms on a Duplex)? Should I negotiate on a per hour rate or the whole
>job? What's a reasonable rate for NYC?
>
rooms in my time, and I've hired a painter a few times too.
In my experience, the painter will look over your job and give you a price
for his/her work. The cost of the paint will be added to that. Sometimes
you can catch someone between jobs and s/he'll figure that a day at less
than the regular rate is better than a day earning nothing, but don't count
on it.
Specify the absolute best paint you can afford, which is not necessarily the
most expensive, but good paint isn't going to be cheap, either. Others have
given you good suggestions for brands.
Around here, the painter will want to buy the paint. If they patronize a
particular outlet, when someone comes in and asks for the name of a painter,
the store will peel a few names off the list of professional painters who
buy their paint there. They also often, though not always, get a
professional discount, which could help lower your costs.
The painter should estimate how much paint will be needed, but you should do
your own sanity check. You may be charged extra if special tools are needed
to do the job and the painter has to go out and buy them. Make sure you
agree up front who gets to keep any paint that's left over, and any special
tools bought for the job.
lpogoda
Norm wrote in message <3DF531A4...@mercurylink.net>...
>
>I've had no problems with "frugal" paints, Sears' Easy Living
I gave up on Sears paints years ago after using it for years. The stuff
spatters from the rollers like crazy, and at the end of the day I'd be
painted the same color as the walls. The first time I tried Sherwin
Williams I was amazed - almost no spatter, the paint went where I wanted
it - on the walls.
Lauri
wrote:
>I was surprised to find that Lows Valspar has an excellent rating in
>test results shown at the following site (Note the position of
>Olympic):
>
>http://masonpainting.com/interior_paints_ratings.htm
Lowe's American Traditions (the label also says "Valspar") is great
paint. I've painted many rooms in my house with their latex satin
paint and I'm satisfied. I even covered a really dark (almost brown)
tan with a light creamy taupe in one coat. It's not thin or
excessively drippy, either.
Try googling alt.home.repair for more discussions on good paint. You
don't have to spend a ton to get good paint; you can get the American
Traditions from Lowes for around $17/gallon when it's one sale. Not a
bad price considering the one-coat coverage.
Lauri in WA
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Gordon Reeder
<qH2J9.5715$K5.1927@fe01>:
>I need opinions of good paint. I've looked at Behr (22.00) and Ralph
>Lauren (28.00) at my local Home Depot, but I'm clueless about what's
>good and would hate to go with the RL just for the name of it, though
>two people I know say it is much better. The walls have already been
>primed.
I've used Behr. It's OK.
My first choice is usually Gliden Spread Satin, or
Sherwin Williams. But for a rental property, Behr is
good enough.
>
>Also, how much should I be looking to pay for this job (3 bedroom 2
>bathrooms on a Duplex)? Should I negotiate on a per hour rate or the
>whole job? What's a reasonable rate for NYC?
Do it yourself. You can do it in a day.
Use a pad for edgeing. Don't bother masking, just be carefull.
Don't bother with those flat pans. Get a 5 gallon bucket and
use a bucket screen. Put a long handle on your roller so you
don't have to climb up and down ladders.
All this adds up into a lot of saved time.
>
>--
>
>William Batista
>NYC
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Just my $0.02 worth. Hope it helps
Gordon Reeder
greeder
at: myself.com
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like therapy for me. I have found that the expensive paints aren't
really that much better than the cheap paint. Glidden is the absolute
worst paint I have used and will never buy any again even if it is in
the bargain bin. Behr is a good quality paint. I get it at home depot
in the oops section for $4 a gallon or so. I did most of the inside of
my present home with Walmart brand paint (semigloss or high gloss
depending on where) and got good coverage with just a coat.
We live in FL so no paint lasts more than 3-5 years in the sun here.
BIL bought expensive Benjamin Moore paint for the outside of his house
and we got the cheap walmart brand. We both repainted in 5 years with
the houses looking similar. We saved hundreds compared to him.
Chloe
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>
> I've also heard from friends that the RL paint they used was horrible, and
> even after multiple coats it didn't cover smoothly. Consumer Reports did a
> evalution of different paints, you might want to look that up. I've heard
good
> stuff about Behr, and I used American Traditions and liked it.
I've also used American Traditions a lot. I thought it was good. AFAIK
nobody's mentioned Porter yet (maybe it's a regional product). I consider it
the ultimate in quality. Some professional painters I've talked with agree.
Bonita and/or William F. Kale
1. Consumer Reports rates paint regularly. They did it in July 2002, so get
to the library and check it out.
2. Your painter may have a favorite paint. If s/he does, I'd go with that;
people do a better job with stuff they're used to.
Bonita
Dennis
(Gordon Reeder) wrote:
>I've used Behr. It's OK.
>My first choice is usually Gliden Spread Satin, or
>Sherwin Williams. But for a rental property, Behr is
>good enough.
Maintaining my rentals is where I learned the value of good paint.
Good paint can make the difference between simply wiping down the
walls and having to do a complete repaint between renters.
the Dennis formerly known as (evil)
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consume more, in his lifetime, than he produces.
Linda M. Young
<wfk...@REMOVETHISmail.n2net.net> wrote:
> 2. Your painter may have a favorite paint. If s/he does, I'd go with that;
>people do a better job with stuff they're used to.
Our friend who repaired our bathroom is a former contractor who just
recently went back to the job (he prefers working with his hands to
working in an office). He used Dulux.
Linda
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