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leno...@yahoo.com

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Jun 21, 2008, 1:02:46 PM6/21/08
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This includes at least one video.

http://search.cbsnews.com/?source=cbs&q=saving+money+food

Lenona.

Anthony Matonak

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Jun 21, 2008, 1:54:58 PM6/21/08
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The two biggest parts of anyones budget these days is housing
and transportation. It would make more sense to save lots of
money on those two first and have a little extra to spend on
food than the other way around.

Anthony

catalpa

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Jun 21, 2008, 8:56:27 PM6/21/08
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"Anthony Matonak" <antho...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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The biggest part of my and many other peoples budget is taxes. I'd love to
save money on taxes, but the federal, state, county and local governments
and the school board won't let me.


clams_casino

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Jun 22, 2008, 6:23:17 AM6/22/08
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catalpa wrote:

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>
>The biggest part of my and many other peoples budget is taxes. I'd love to
>save money on taxes, but the federal, state, county and local governments
>and the school board won't let me.
>
>
>
>

You can always move to a country that doesn't provide any services. Who
needs roads, an education, a military, a fire department, police
protection, social security, etc?

h

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Jun 22, 2008, 9:10:21 AM6/22/08
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"catalpa" <cat...@entertab.org> wrote in message
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Yup. Me, too. My taxes go up every year and my income doesn't.


hchi...@hotmail.com

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Jun 22, 2008, 11:25:30 AM6/22/08
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Mine dropped like a rock last year. Part of it was reduction of
income dropping my Fed income tax to the lowest I've paid in years,
but I also stripped over $2K per year in property taxes by moving
rural. You CAN live in the U.S. and not be held hostage to various
outrageous taxes. You just have to do the research and being willing
to get off the dime.

Housing costs this year will be minimal, since by moving we were able
to eliminate a mortgage and start a new maintenance clock with a new
home.

Transportation costs have stayed about the same, but we drive far
less.

Hopefully, food costs will start to go down this year, as the garden
ripens and we start freezing and canning. However, some of the
savings will be a cost shifting, since I need to put up fencing and
build stock housing.

NBC did a story recently on the rise of the dollar stores. Looks like
people are beginning to make the shifts that we made years ago. It
sucks that google spam trashed this group when people need it most.

h

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Jun 22, 2008, 1:32:48 PM6/22/08
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<hchi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I already do live rural. Problem is that my town is in a county with a
failing large city. Our school and property taxes are hijacked to bail out
the larger entity. If our town was in the next county over, we'd be paying
about 60% of what we pay now. The town has tried to change counties 3 times,
and each time it was blocked by the city, because they need our town's
revenue. When I bought the place, we had fairly low taxes. I've spent nearly
25 years lovingly restoring this nearly 200 year old house, and I refuse to
give it up just because the politicians can't figure out how to budget.

Also, although our property/school taxes are some of the highest in the
nation (based on home values) the fact that I'm self-employed is what causes
my income tax to be so high. My business is the first to be hit when there's
a recession, since I don't sell a necessity. Orders have been mighty thin
lately. I made $5k less in 2007 than I did in 2006, yet I owed $1k more in
taxes with the same deductions. I still don't get that one. My accountant
says that it happened to a lot of his business clients last year. Make less,
pay more, seems to be the new American Way.


hchi...@hotmail.com

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Jun 22, 2008, 4:00:33 PM6/22/08
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:32:48 -0400, <h> wrote:

>Also, although our property/school taxes are some of the highest in the
>nation (based on home values) the fact that I'm self-employed is what causes
>my income tax to be so high. My business is the first to be hit when there's
>a recession, since I don't sell a necessity. Orders have been mighty thin
>lately. I made $5k less in 2007 than I did in 2006, yet I owed $1k more in
>taxes with the same deductions. I still don't get that one. My accountant
>says that it happened to a lot of his business clients last year. Make less,
>pay more, seems to be the new American Way.

That doesn't sound right. If the difference is that much, I'd at
least take the data to another accountant for a review.

Rod Speed

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Jun 22, 2008, 3:56:52 PM6/22/08
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clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
> catalpa wrote

>> The biggest part of my and many other peoples budget is taxes. I'd love to save money on taxes, but the federal,
>> state, county and local governments and the school board won't let me.

> You can always move to a country that doesn't provide any services.

No such animal, and even if there was, there would still be taxes to pay their parasites.

h

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Jun 23, 2008, 1:30:06 AM6/23/08
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<hchi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Funny you should say that. I took my last return to several of those "we'll
review your return for free and find you extra money" places like HR Block,
and all of them had me owing MUCH more than my accountant figured. One
goofus even tried to tell me that I couldn't take the home office deduction
because "The room is too big". Huh? It's not as though I maintain office
space anywhere else. He seemed to think that 22% of my small house is "too
much" to take as a deduction. Well...it's a separate 20'x20' room which is
used only for business and that business is my sole source of income. He
still said I wasn't allowed to take it, unless I used a smaller room. Again,
huh? You should see what's crammed into this room, floor to ceiling. I don't
even include my file cabinets, desk, computer, or mailing supplies storage
in the 22%, because they don't fit into the workroom. And this guy is
prepping taxes for money.


George

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Jun 23, 2008, 8:17:48 AM6/23/08
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But you are comparing apples and oranges. Accountants typically have a
better grasp of stuff. The hr block etc "experts" that set up on a card
table at the big box store went to a couple hours of training and are
just doing a fill in the blanks thing in their computer. Their process
also errs on the conservative side so they will probably never have to
defend their position with the tax collecting body.

You might want to consult with another accountant for the change you
described.

hchi...@hotmail.com

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Jun 23, 2008, 9:57:05 AM6/23/08
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:17:48 -0400, George <geo...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

I'd agree with that, and add that if you aren't already a subchapter S
corp., you should strongly consider it.

BTW, quiet around here the last few days. Have the google spammers
figured out they no longer have an audience???

Evelyn C. Leeper

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Jun 23, 2008, 10:20:22 AM6/23/08
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Yes, but if you already have a house and a car, moving and/or buying a
new car may not be possible at the time, whereas you can try to save on
food starting now.

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
A great many people think they are thinking when they are
only rearranging their prejudices. -William James

h

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Jun 23, 2008, 11:39:27 AM6/23/08
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"Evelyn C. Leeper" <ele...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Anthony Matonak wrote:
>> leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> This includes at least one video.
>>>
>>> http://search.cbsnews.com/?source=cbs&q=saving+money+food
>>
>> The two biggest parts of anyones budget these days is housing
>> and transportation. It would make more sense to save lots of
>> money on those two first and have a little extra to spend on
>> food than the other way around.
>
> Yes, but if you already have a house and a car, moving and/or buying a
> new car may not be possible at the time, whereas you can try to save on
> food starting now.
>

Maybe it's because we low-carb, but meat and veg prices haven't gone up here
at all, in fact, they've been dropping a little now that the local growing
season is here. My food bill hasn't gone up even a little. I think we just
don't buy 90% of what the rest of the country eats.


clams_casino

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Jun 23, 2008, 6:59:00 PM6/23/08
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h wrote:

>>
>>
>
>Maybe it's because we low-carb, but meat and veg prices haven't gone up here
>at all, in fact, they've been dropping a little now that the local growing
>season is here. My food bill hasn't gone up even a little. I think we just
>don't buy 90% of what the rest of the country eats.
>
>
>
>

Ours is up a good 25% vs. 2007 with no obvious changes in our habits.

Mostly fresh fruits, seafood & vegetables with minimal meat.

val189

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Jun 23, 2008, 8:02:39 PM6/23/08
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On Jun 21, 1:54 pm, Anthony Matonak
<anthony...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:

> lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > This includes at least one video.
>
> >http://search.cbsnews.com/?source=cbs&q=saving+money+food
>
> The two biggest parts of anyones budget these days is housing
> and transportation.


Not everyone. My biggest expenditure categories are

a. all insurances combined and

b. taxes (fed and property).

After that follow groceries and utilities.


The Real Bev Far From Home

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Jun 24, 2008, 5:32:44 PM6/24/08
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hchi...@hotmail.com wrote:

> BTW, quiet around here the last few days. Have the google spammers
> figured out they no longer have an audience???

I'm reading news through a feed (reader.usenet4all.se) that claims to
reject googlegroups posts. They seem to be telling the truth.

Cheers,
Bev

clams_casino

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Jun 24, 2008, 6:07:10 PM6/24/08
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Saw on another newsgroup that Verizon is dropping all alt newsgroups
(amongst others), forcing their customers to access newsgroups via
google groups (and other sources).

Several have been really upset to find many users are filtering out all
google groups postings.

Truly Stunned

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Jun 25, 2008, 6:57:34 PM6/25/08
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In article <6c7p46F...@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
> > catalpa wrote
>
> >> The biggest part of my and many other peoples budget is taxes. I'd love to
> >> save money on taxes, but the federal,
> >> state, county and local governments and the school board won't let me.
>
> > You can always move to a country that doesn't provide any services.
>
> No such animal, and even if there was, there would still be taxes to pay
> their parasites.

Try Hong Kong. That's about as close as you will get.

Rod Speed

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Jun 25, 2008, 7:33:50 PM6/25/08
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Truly Stunned <vio...@thebridgeofsighs.sad> wrote

Sure, but even they still provide services.

And they have parasites too.


The Real Bev Far From Home

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Jun 27, 2008, 8:37:47 AM6/27/08
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clams_casino wrote:
> The Real Bev Far From Home wrote:
>
>> hchi...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, quiet around here the last few days. Have the google spammers
>>> figured out they no longer have an audience???
>>
>> I'm reading news through a feed (reader.usenet4all.se) that claims to
>> reject googlegroups posts. They seem to be telling the truth.

There seemed to be a bit of a delay, compared to my ISP's feed, in
receiving messages, but that's probably not a huge problem.

> Saw on another newsgroup that Verizon is dropping all alt newsgroups
> (amongst others), forcing their customers to access newsgroups via
> google groups (and other sources).
>
> Several have been really upset to find many users are filtering out all
> google groups postings.

Probably the same people who use them to post. It's kind of nice when
people select themselves out of the system.

Cheers,
Bev -- Far from home

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