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Sylvia Moestl

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Dec 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/14/95
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Anybody try this? I used to use dishwashing liquid as shampoo, having read in
an old review in Consumer Reports that most people in a blind test rated it
better. I've kind of gotten away from that habit, but might start again.

One thing is that you'll want to use the higher quality dishwashing liquids,
such as Joy.

--Sylvia

bas...@cello.gina.calstate.edu

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Dec 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/14/95
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I used to use the *cheap* dishwashing stuff. Worked fine. Now I use
shampoo that smells good. That works fine too. Either I have tough hair
or the shampoo companies are criminally profitable :)


bab

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Dec 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/15/95
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Sylvia Moestl (lars...@larsmohr.seanet.com) wrote:
> Anybody try this? I used to use dishwashing liquid as shampoo, having read in
> an old review in Consumer Reports that most people in a blind test rated it
> better. I've kind of gotten away from that habit, but might start again.

I don't know about that, but I use cheapo dishwashing liquid instead of
the waterless hand cleaners for cleaning up after auto repair and the like.

Erin Bulman

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Dec 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/17/95
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In Article <4asdc3$g...@anarchy.io.com>, b...@io.com (bab) wrote:
>Sylvia Moestl (lars...@larsmohr.seanet.com) wrote:
>> Anybody try this? I used to use dishwashing liquid as shampoo, having read

Yes. After reading about it on this newsgroup, I had to try it. It worked
absolutely wonderfully. With just a tiny bit, my hair came squeaky clean.
I do use a little conditioner, in order to unsnarl my really fine hair.
I used Dawn (the brand available at our Costco). Then I discovered that
the Dawn cost more per ounce than a gallon jug of a shampoo, TRESsemme,
they also carry. I was lucky enough to find a tiny sample bottle of the
shampoo elsewhere, and it also worked well. Bought the gallon jug. I
still like knowing about using the dishwashing detergent, however.

Oh, and buying the sample was frugal. I went to the drugstore to pick
up a couple of empty plastic bottles. They sold them empty for 89 cents.
Filled with the sample of TRESsemme they were 79 cents.

Sometimes being frugal means taking advantage of the cheapest acceptable
alternative and using your hand calculator:)

Erin
************
"Slow down, look around, take time to smell the garlic."
-- Archibald McNally

Lynette Warren

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Dec 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/22/95
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Erin Bulman (ebu...@interpac.net) wrote:
: Yes. After reading about it on this newsgroup, I had to try it. It worked

: absolutely wonderfully. With just a tiny bit, my hair came squeaky clean.

Shampoo was a luxury in our household when I was growing up. Liquid dish
detergent worked fine. I've been told by hairdressers that it will ruin
hair, but I don't think it does any worse than shampoos, especially if you
use conditioner.

I use shampoo now. I probably should go back to a mild dish detergent.

This is by no means a recommendation, but ever try using powdered laundry
detergent? One, make sure there are no bleach crystals in it. Then put
about a half cup in an eight ounce container filled with warm water.
Shake it well. You'll end up with a two phased mixture. Powder sediment
on the bottom and a liquid detergent on top. Use the liquid only.

Again, I don't recommend this. Some laundry detergents really shouldn't
be used on clothing, much less skin, but it can be done if you're pressed
for resources and you use a very mild laundry soap.

Lynette

John Hansen

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Dec 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/22/95
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I use Kiss My Face olive oil soaps for showering and hairwashing. They
have the ingredients of a dandruff controlling shampoo, and work great,
no drying of the scalp, hair is clean and shiny, etc. Plus no dandruff.

Detergents seem to dry my scalp too much, and they are not natural.


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David Vanderschel

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Dec 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/22/95
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In <ebulman.1...@news.interpac.net>, ebu...@interpac.net (Erin Bulman) writes:
>In Article <4asdc3$g...@anarchy.io.com>, b...@io.com (bab) wrote:
>>Sylvia Moestl (lars...@larsmohr.seanet.com) wrote:
>>> Anybody try this? I used to use dishwashing liquid as shampoo, having read
>
>Yes. After reading about it on this newsgroup, I had to try it. It worked
>absolutely wonderfully. With just a tiny bit, my hair came squeaky clean.
>I do use a little conditioner, in order to unsnarl my really fine hair.
>I used Dawn (the brand available at our Costco). Then I discovered that
>the Dawn cost more per ounce than a gallon jug of a shampoo, TRESsemme,
>they also carry. I was lucky enough to find a tiny sample bottle of the
>shampoo elsewhere, and it also worked well. Bought the gallon jug. I
>still like knowing about using the dishwashing detergent, however.

I think that there is an important factor that was ignored in Erin's
cost-computation. The detergent in Dawn is much more concentrated
than that in the shampoo. You can get the job done with far less of
the dishwashing detergent.

Regards,
David V.
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Patricia Schwalm

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Dec 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/23/95
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David Vanderschel (Dv...@eden.com) wrote:
: I think that there is an important factor that was ignored in Erin's

: cost-computation. The detergent in Dawn is much more concentrated
: than that in the shampoo. You can get the job done with far less of
: the dishwashing detergent.

This is a problem I've had trouble dealing with; how can you compare
prices with detergents? Cost per once doesn't work. I buy the generic/store
brand white stuff. I'm pretty sure it's less concentrated, but how can
you tell? On the rare occasions I've used more expensive brands, I
find myself pouring too much. Same with shampoos.

Patty

John Crull

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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In article <larsmohr.2...@larsmohr.seanet.co m>, From
lars...@larsmohr.seanet.com (Sylvia Moestl), the following was
suggested as a shampoo:

> such as Joy.

I use Ivory, myself - the original recipe. If I could see my scalp, I'm
sure it would be as lovely as my hands!


Erin Bulman

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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David wrote--

>I think that there is an important factor that was ignored in Erin's
>cost-computation. The detergent in Dawn is much more concentrated
>than that in the shampoo. You can get the job done with far less of
>the dishwashing detergent.

Hmmm, you're right, David. I didn't perform a clean experiment
by using a measured amount of each. I *thought* I used about the
same amount, but sloshing a bit in the hand is not exactly accurate.
Thanks for pointing this out.

I'm still happy to find that either solution is more frugal than using
the cheapest supermarket shampoo (Alberto or Suave), whose fragrances
make me retch. I like the fresh lemony smell of a lot of detergents.

Now, anyone got some ideas about frugal hair conditioners?

Kristin Evenson Hirst on the Net

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Dec 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/27/95
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ebu...@interpac.net (Erin Bulman) wrote:
[snip]

>Now, anyone got some ideas about frugal hair conditioners?

Actually...

You can thin a lot of conditioners with water & still get good
results. You can also give your hair a hot oil treatment with olive
oil--slather it on, cover with plastic wrap or a warm damp towel, let
it sit a while & then shampoo. Mayonnaise also is great -- so are egg
yolks. (If you do a lot of low-fat baking with egg whites, you'll
have plenty of egg yolks to use up.)


Kristin Evenson Hirst kristi...@uiowa.edu
Guided Correspondence Study 800-272-6430
The University of Iowa 319-335-2034
Iowa City, IA 52242 fax: 319-335-2740


John & Suzanne Finnegan

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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ebu...@interpac.net (Erin Bulman) wrote:

>David wrote--
>>I think that there is an important factor that was ignored in Erin's
>>cost-computation. The detergent in Dawn is much more concentrated
>>than that in the shampoo. You can get the job done with far less of
>>the dishwashing detergent.

Many people use more shampoo than is strictly necessary, also.

When I was a young thing, we'd sometimes run out of shampoo and
substitute Dawn; it works fine, and people with unusually oily hair
might even prefer it. I've also substituted bath soap; also works
fine. I once made some gel-like shampoo from Castile soap and boiling
water--you can add herbal infusions to it, as well--and that worked
fine, also, but I do not consider it a frugal use of my time.

A relative told me about a co-worker who went to the dermatologist for
her acne and came back angry because all the doctor had said was to
try washing her face with Dawn and come back if that didn't work.

I now have cats, but, back when I had those enchanting creatures
called dogs, I tried dog shampoo, human shampoo, and flea dip on them.
All worked. I am probably inviting flames to mention this, but some
people have recommended Woolite for washing white poodles. I have
never had a white dog, I have never washed one in Woolite, and I am
not suggesting others should do so--I am just saying that I have heard
this recommended by people who do.


>Now, anyone got some ideas about frugal hair conditioners?

Use the cheapest brand. Do without. Use homemade hot oil treatments.
I have unusually healthy hair and do not need conditioners, but I
would like to recommend hot oil treatments. I use them two or three
times a year, and my sister, who has fine, limp, easily damaged hair,
keeps her hair healthy by a darn-near religious use of hot oil
treatments. There is no need to pay several dollars for commercial
ones in the store, when you can do it at home so easily and cheaply.

>Erin
>************
>"Slow down, look around, take time to smell the garlic."
> -- Archibald McNally

I like this!


Amy Junge

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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In article <4bueob$c...@axe.netdoor.com>, finn...@netdoor.com (John &
Suzanne Finnegan) wrote:


> Use homemade hot oil treatments.
> I have unusually healthy hair and do not need conditioners, but I
> would like to recommend hot oil treatments. I use them two or three
> times a year, and my sister, who has fine, limp, easily damaged hair,
> keeps her hair healthy by a darn-near religious use of hot oil
> treatments. There is no need to pay several dollars for commercial
> ones in the store, when you can do it at home so easily and cheaply.
>

Recipie, please?

I use henna on my hair (when people ask me if my wonderful red hair is
natural I say, "Why, yes, it comes right out of a jar at the health food
store!") and usually mix in a few tablespoons of olive oil so that the
"mud" comes out easier (also it coats easier). I do use conditioner, but
my hair is long and prone to split ends and I have better ways to waste my
time than by yanking a comb through the tangles (yes, Virginia, I *do*
brush it out before washing, and I avoid a hair dryer).

By the way, cheap perm and body treatment for long hair! Wash it at
night, braid it into two pigtails (go for the Mary Ann on Gilligan's
Island look) and sleep on it. In the morning it's dry and wavy. Works
best if you let it air dry for about 20-30 minutes before braiding.

Bill Vermillion

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Dec 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/28/95
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In article <4brr8n$b...@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu>,

Kristin Evenson Hirst on the Net <kristi...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
>ebu...@interpac.net (Erin Bulman) wrote:
>[snip]
>>Now, anyone got some ideas about frugal hair conditioners?
>
>Actually...

>You can thin a lot of conditioners with water & still get good
>results. You can also give your hair a hot oil treatment with olive
>oil--slather it on, cover with plastic wrap or a warm damp towel, let
>it sit a while & then shampoo. Mayonnaise also is great -- so are egg
>yolks. (If you do a lot of low-fat baking with egg whites, you'll
>have plenty of egg yolks to use up.)

The 'Tail & Mane' conditioners seem to be good. You see them
in drugstores everywhere. But you can get the same brand at
your local pet suptermarket chain (eg something like PetSmart)
in the horse department. Same price but twice the amount. In
this area it's between $5-$6 per quart.


--
Bill Vermillion - bi...@bilver.oau.org | bill.ve...@oau.org

John & Suzanne Finnegan

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Jan 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/1/96
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as...@idir.net (Amy Junge) wrote:

>Recipie, please?

Put one tablespoon of oil (some say olive oil is better, but I did not
see any difference between it and store brand vegetable oil) in a cup
and warm it in the microwave. Test the oil on your finger to make
sure it is not too warm. Wet hair with hot water. Work hot oil into
the hair--I usually just put it on the ends--avoiding the scalp. Wrap
hair, put on a shower bonnet, or whatever. You may want to wrap it in
a towel that was dampened with hot water, then put a dry towel around
that. Go do your housecleaning or whatever, and wash it out when
you're ready. Simple and cheap.

>I use henna on my hair (when people ask me if my wonderful red hair is
>natural I say, "Why, yes, it comes right out of a jar at the health food
>store!") and usually mix in a few tablespoons of olive oil so that the
>"mud" comes out easier (also it coats easier).

Another follower of the true way! I was born with red hair, but, when
I hit adolescence, it started going blonde. But, then I found the
true way of henna and was saved from bimbo-dom! :-) I pay less than
three dollars a can at K&B Drugs. Not sure what to do when I get old
enough that it is obvious it has something added. (Not that that
bothered Lucille Ball or my Great-Aunt Johnnie.) I never thought of
putting oil in it; thanks for the suggestion. Do you know you can
apply it to dry hair with good results?

>By the way, cheap perm and body treatment for long hair! Wash it at
>night, braid it into two pigtails (go for the Mary Ann on Gilligan's
>Island look) and sleep on it. In the morning it's dry and wavy. Works
>best if you let it air dry for about 20-30 minutes before braiding.

If your hair is super-thick, two braids might not do it. Think Bo
Derek or Rick James. It's a pain, but will work fairly well.

Those "Perm For a Day" things work quite well, but I don't have that
kind of time more than once a year.


Virgilio 'Dean' B. Velasco Jr.

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Jan 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/6/96
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In article <4c756d$3...@axe.netdoor.com>,

John & Suzanne Finnegan <finn...@netdoor.com> wrote:
>
>Put one tablespoon of oil (some say olive oil is better, but I did not
>see any difference between it and store brand vegetable oil) in a cup
>and warm it in the microwave.

So is that a rounded or heaping tablespoon? ;-)

--
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr, Department of Electrical Eng'g and Applied Physics
graduate student slave, roboticist-in-training and Q wannabe
To infinity and beyond! | Remember: Wise men still seek Christ.
And I shall shed my light over dark evil, for darkness cannot stand the light...

Kimberly Ann Bauder

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Jan 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/8/96
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>
: >Put one tablespoon of oil (some say olive oil is better, but I did not

: >see any difference between it and store brand vegetable oil) in a cup
: >and warm it in the microwave.

Thanks for sharing this! I'd also like to add that you can make a bottle
of everyday hair conditioner last much longer if you use it as a spray
on-leave in conditioner instead. Just mix your conditioner like this:
1 part conditioner
5 parts water
Put it in an empty hair spray container and spritz it on instead.

This does not leave any oily traces in your hair at all... in fact you
can't even tell you did it, except for the fact that the tangles come out
wonderfully and your frizzies get calmed down. :)

kimberly


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