Re: Need help reaching critical mass

Guy Macon

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Feb 17, 2008, 9:31:50 PM2/17/08

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Jerry Avins wrote:
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>Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:
>
>>For those here who are involved in Product Development,
>>I would like to invite you to try out the newsgroup that
>>I moderate: misc.business.product-dev -- a Usenet newsgroup
>>about the Business of Product Development.
>>
>>The group has been pretty much unused for a long time, but
>>could become viable if I can attract a critical mass of
>>users.
>>
>>Right now I am screening posts to avoid spam, and setting
>>the software to auto-approve any further posts by that user.
>>This avoids posting delays after the user's first post.
>>
>>If I can attract enough users to see the volume pick up,
>>I will be looking for co-moderators. I have a simple
>>web-based system that makes it easy to reject/approve
>>posts.
>>
>>There will be little or no rejection because of content;
>>I just want to keep the newsgroup flooders and spammers
>>out, and let people use their killfiles if they don't
>>like what someone posts.
>>
>>Also, unlike many other moderated newsgroups, I allow
>>crossposts to one unmoderated newsgroup, so you can post
>>something that is about FORTH and Product Development
>>in comp.lang.forth and misc.business.product-dev if
>>you wish.
>>
>>Alas, I can't allow crossposts to moderated newsgroups
>>because such posts get approved for both newsgroups
>>when one moderator approves them, which would be rude
>>to the other moderator.
>
>I don't know the mechanism for that, but it seems strange to me in my
>ignorance.

Here is how it works:

When you post to a newsgroup, your post goes to your chosen news
server. The news server looks at the post and compares it to its
list of which groups are moderated. If none of the groups are
moderated, it goes out at once to all the other news servers.

If any of the groups are moderated *and* the post has no
"Approved:" header, the post is emailed to the moderator's
article submission address. If the moderator (or, in my
case, automoderation software) approves the post, he adds
an "Approved:" header and posts it to his news server, which
sends it out to all of the other news servers.

What happens when there are two moderated newsgroup is not
defined. What would be ideal is that each moderator gets
it in turn, and both have to approve. What actually happens
is that one of the moderators gets it and, if he approves it,
it gets posted to both newsgroups. In practice, this never
happens because most moderators filter out any crossposts
before seeing them. I had to ask the developer of the
automoderation software to create a special setup to allow
people to crosspost to one additional newsgroup, but only if
it isn't moderated.

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misc.business.product-dev: a Usenet newsgroup
about the Business of Product Development.
-- Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/>

Jerry Avins

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Feb 17, 2008, 11:11:38 PM2/17/08

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Thanks for the explanation. It's enlightening to look under the hood.

Jerry
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werty

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Feb 21, 2008, 5:40:49 AM2/21/08

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Engineering is NOT an art , its an application ...

werty

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Feb 22, 2008, 4:47:58 PM2/22/08

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Assinine , a 2nd person decides how a post "fit's" in , logically !

There is NO future for text . You select images and GUI "verbs" and
"nouns"

to communicate . No human need make any decision , because all can
index

into your post with standard "concepts" .

These "concepts" are handle fast by the computer , cause there is no

translation needed , the kernel understands all concepts , cause the
kernel

wrote those concepts . There are no grammar rules to translate .

No jobs for college prof's , librarians ,

there will be no books on this earth in 15 years .