Meat-Eaters- Are Wasting All the Water
know buddee
A change in diets may be necessary to enable developing countries to
feed their people, say scientists
by John Vidal
Guardian/UK
Governments may have to persuade people to eat less meat because of
increasing demands on water supplies, according to agricultural
scientists investigating how the world can best feed itself.
They say countries with little water may choose not to grow crops but
trade in "virtual water", importing food from countries which have
large amounts of water to save their supplies for domestic or
high-value uses.
With about 840 million people in the world undernourished, and a
further 2 billion expected to be born within 20 years, finding water
to grow food will be one of the greatest challenges facing
governments.
Currently up to 90% of all managed water is used to grow food.
"There will be enough food for everyone on average in 20 years' time,
but unless we change the way that we grow it, there will be a lot more
malnourished people," said Dr David Molden, principal scientist with
the International Water Management Institute (IWMI), which is
part-funded by the British government and is investigating global
options for feeding growing populations.
"The bottom line is that groundwater levels are plummeting and our
rivers are already overstressed, yet there is a lot of complacency
about the future," the IWMI report says.
"Western diets, which depend largely on meat, are already putting
great pressures on the environment. Meat-eaters consume the equivalent
of about 5,000 liters[1,100 gallons] of water a day compared to the
1,000-2,000 liters used by people on vegetarian diets in developing
countries. All that water has to come from somewhere."
The consensus emerging among scientists is that it will be almost
impossible to feed future generations the typical diet eaten in
western Europe and North America without destroying the environment.
A meat and vegetable diet, which most people move to when economically
possible, requires more water than crops such as wheat and maize. On
average, it takes 1,790 liters of water to grow 1kg of wheat compared
with 9,680 liters of water for 1kg of beef.
In its report, the IWMI says it it unlikely people will change their
eating habits because of concerns about water supplies. "And in many
sub-Saharan countries, where the pressure on water will increase most
rapidly in the next 20 years, people actually need to be eating more,
not less," the report says.
Anders Berntell, the director of the International Water Institute,
based in Stockholm, said: "The world's future water supply is a
problem that's ... greater than we've begun to realize.
"We've got to reduce the amount of water we devote to growing food.
The world is simply running out of water."
Research suggests that up to 24% more water will be needed to grow the
world's food in 20 years, but many of the fastest-growing countries
are unable to devote more water to agriculture without sacrificing
ecosystems which may be important for providing water or fish.
The option of increased world trade in virtual water seems logical,
the scientists say, but they recognize that it depends on countries
having the money to import their food. "The question remains whether
the countries that will be hardest hit by water scarcity will be able
to afford virtual water," the report says.
The best options for feeding the world, it says, are a combination of
hi-tech and traditional water conservation methods. Improved crop
varieties, better tillage methods and more precise irrigation could
reduce water consumption and improve yields.
Drought-resistant seeds, water harvesting schemes and small-plot
technologies such as treadle pumps [simple foot pumps] all have the
potential to boost yields by 100%, the report says.
The scientists did not examine the use of GM foods which have been
hailed by some companies as the way to avoid big food shortages.
"Even without GM foods, in many parts of the world there is the
potential to increase water productivity. Even without them there is
hope," one of the report's authors said.
Another option considered is that of farmers using more urban waste
water for irrigation. It is estimated that up to 10% of the world's
population now eat food produced using waste water from towns and
cities.
Cities are predicted to use 150% more water within 20 years, which
will be both a problem and an opportunity.
"This means more waste water but also less fresh water available for
agriculture. In the future, using waste water may not be a choice but
a necessity", the report says.
The authors say western governments need to change their policies:
"Agricultural subsidies keep world commodity prices low in poor
countries and discourage farmers from investing [in water-saving
technologies] because they will not get a return on their investments.
"Land and water rights are also needed so people will invest in
long-term improvements."
© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004
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Well, I guess I'll be wasting it awhile yet, 'cause I ain't giving up my
T-bone steak (or my venison :) )!
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"Sovereign Sockpuppet©" <s0ve...@sOck.pupp3t> wrote in message
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Nah, it's pretty cheap. Especially if you bow hunt 'em.
DrPostman
>
>"Sovereign Sockpuppet©" <s0ve...@sOck.pupp3t> wrote in message
>news:10ip6o0...@news.supernews.com...
>> Deer meat is dear meat.
>
>Nah, it's pretty cheap. Especially if you bow hunt 'em.
I just found a place where I can get a whole processed deer
for $38 - less than $1 a pound.
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> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:38:02 +0200, "tw" <n...@no.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Sovereign Sockpuppet©" <s0ve...@sOck.pupp3t> wrote in message
> >news:10ip6o0...@news.supernews.com...
>
> >> Deer meat is dear meat.
> >
> >Nah, it's pretty cheap. Especially if you bow hunt 'em.
>
>
> I just found a place where I can get a whole processed deer
> for $38 - less than $1 a pound.
Does that include removal of the tire tracks?
Strider
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>"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:38:02 +0200, "tw" <n...@no.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Sovereign Sockpuppet©" <s0ve...@sOck.pupp3t> wrote in message
>> >news:10ip6o0...@news.supernews.com...
>>
>> >> Deer meat is dear meat.
>> >
>> >Nah, it's pretty cheap. Especially if you bow hunt 'em.
>>
>>
>> I just found a place where I can get a whole processed deer
>> for $38 - less than $1 a pound.
>
>Does that include removal of the tire tracks?
>
>Strider
We have so many hunters around here that they never get near a road.
dreamwalker
"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:42:08 -0400, "Strider" <str...@usit.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
> >news:mlppi09bgd1nmoh3k...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:38:02 +0200, "tw" <n...@no.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Sovereign Sockpuppet©" <s0ve...@sOck.pupp3t> wrote in message
> >> >news:10ip6o0...@news.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> >> Deer meat is dear meat.
> >> >
> >> >Nah, it's pretty cheap. Especially if you bow hunt 'em.
> >>
> >>
> >> I just found a place where I can get a whole processed deer
> >> for $38 - less than $1 a pound.
> >
> >Does that include removal of the tire tracks?
> >
> >Strider
>
>
> We have so many hunters around here that they never get near a road.
Kill it and grill it.
DrPostman
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>"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:42:08 -0400, "Strider" <str...@usit.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
>> >news:mlppi09bgd1nmoh3k...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:38:02 +0200, "tw" <n...@no.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Sovereign Sockpuppet©" <s0ve...@sOck.pupp3t> wrote in message
>> >> >news:10ip6o0...@news.supernews.com...
>> >>
>> >> >> Deer meat is dear meat.
>> >> >
>> >> >Nah, it's pretty cheap. Especially if you bow hunt 'em.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I just found a place where I can get a whole processed deer
>> >> for $38 - less than $1 a pound.
>> >
>> >Does that include removal of the tire tracks?
>> >
>> >Strider
>>
>>
>> We have so many hunters around here that they never get near a road.
>
>Kill it and grill it.
Yep, except for the ground. I love the hell out of ground venison.
Makes the best spaghetti in the world.
Daniel Kolle
>
>"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:38:02 +0200, "tw" <n...@no.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Sovereign Sockpuppet©" <s0ve...@sOck.pupp3t> wrote in message
>> >news:10ip6o0...@news.supernews.com...
>>
>> >> Deer meat is dear meat.
>> >
>> >Nah, it's pretty cheap. Especially if you bow hunt 'em.
>>
>>
>> I just found a place where I can get a whole processed deer
>> for $38 - less than $1 a pound.
>
>Does that include removal of the tire tracks?
And buckshot? :-P
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"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:45:39 -0500, "dreamwalker"
> <backf...@dead.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
> >news:gqrpi091q7fcc0v9m...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:42:08 -0400, "Strider" <str...@usit.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
> >> >news:mlppi09bgd1nmoh3k...@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:38:02 +0200, "tw" <n...@no.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Sovereign Sockpuppet©" <s0ve...@sOck.pupp3t> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:10ip6o0...@news.supernews.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Deer meat is dear meat.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Nah, it's pretty cheap. Especially if you bow hunt 'em.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I just found a place where I can get a whole processed deer
> >> >> for $38 - less than $1 a pound.
> >> >
> >> >Does that include removal of the tire tracks?
> >> >
> >> >Strider
> >>
> >>
> >> We have so many hunters around here that they never get near a road.
> >
> >Kill it and grill it.
>
>
> Yep, except for the ground. I love the hell out of ground venison.
> Makes the best spaghetti in the world.
Mmm, I'm hungry now. Mix it with some lean pork. About 80/20 heavy on the venison. Throw it on the
Weber for a good cooking. The ground pork picks up the charcoal flavor. A very good, low fat dish.
Eris
wrote:
>
>Well, I guess I'll be wasting it awhile yet, 'cause I ain't giving up my
>T-bone steak (or my venison :) )!
Okay, I kill and eat Deer meat, but it is not my favorite tasting
meat. Would appreciate a link to or a couple of good Venison recipes.
At a recent family get together at a lowlife relative of my ex's, the
ground meat and ketchup loose sandwhiches had an odd taste. Some asked
is this venison, and someone else added, no, they wouldn't do that to
us on Christmas.
The Independent of Clackamas County
Eris wrote:
I always get a kick out of these posts that meat eaters are wasting all
the water. I guess they have never been in the high desert that covers
most of the western United States. There isn't enough water in most
places to grow crops. What little water there is is so wide spread that
the only thing that grows is crested wheat grass and sage brush.
Fortunately the crested wheat grass is what cattle eat and the spring
which have insufficient flow for irrigation but have sufficient flow for
water of live stock and wild life are wide spread.
So in their theory ( after they are city dwellers with all that book
learnen ) my be accurate, (remember they are also calculating the amount
of water necessary to grow cattle feed ) they have never been on a
honest to goodness farm/ranch. If they had they would find that the
lack of water dictates what kind of agriculture is practiced. If you
have lots of water you grow food for human consumption, (and cattle
feed) if you don't have lots of water but lots of ground that then you
grow cattle.
Remember in the high desert you get 10 inches of moisture per year of
which more than 75% is evaporated back up into the atmosphere.
The Independent
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Gunner
County <jam...@web-ster.com> wrote:
>So in their theory ( after they are city dwellers with all that book
>learnen ) my be accurate, (remember they are also calculating the amount
>of water necessary to grow cattle feed ) they have never been on a
>honest to goodness farm/ranch. If they had they would find that the
>lack of water dictates what kind of agriculture is practiced. If you
>have lots of water you grow food for human consumption, (and cattle
>feed) if you don't have lots of water but lots of ground that then you
>grow cattle.
>
>Remember in the high desert you get 10 inches of moisture per year of
>which more than 75% is evaporated back up into the atmosphere.
>
>The Independent
So far to date, at my home, the rain fall for the year has been 2.8",
where the norm is 4.2"
Gunner
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Peter J Ross
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:09:34 -0700, The Independent of Clackamas
> County <jam...@web-ster.com> wrote:
>
>> So in their theory ( after they are city dwellers with all that book
>> learnen ) my be accurate, (remember they are also calculating the amount
>> of water necessary to grow cattle feed ) they have never been on a
>> honest to goodness farm/ranch. If they had they would find that the
>> lack of water dictates what kind of agriculture is practiced. If you
>> have lots of water you grow food for human consumption, (and cattle
>> feed) if you don't have lots of water but lots of ground that then you
>> grow cattle.
>>
>> Remember in the high desert you get 10 inches of moisture per year of
>> which more than 75% is evaporated back up into the atmosphere.
>>
>> The Independent
>
> So far to date, at my home, the rain fall for the year has been 2.8",
> where the norm is 4.2"
How fascinating.
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"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:45:39 -0500, "dreamwalker"
> <backf...@dead.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
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> >> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:42:08 -0400, "Strider" <str...@usit.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
> >> >news:mlppi09bgd1nmoh3k...@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:38:02 +0200, "tw" <n...@no.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Sovereign Sockpuppet©" <s0ve...@sOck.pupp3t> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:10ip6o0...@news.supernews.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Deer meat is dear meat.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Nah, it's pretty cheap. Especially if you bow hunt 'em.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I just found a place where I can get a whole processed deer
> >> >> for $38 - less than $1 a pound.
> >> >
> >> >Does that include removal of the tire tracks?
> >> >
> >> >Strider
> >>
> >>
> >> We have so many hunters around here that they never get near a road.
> >
> >Kill it and grill it.
>
>
> Yep, except for the ground. I love the hell out of ground venison.
> Makes the best spaghetti in the world.
Makes great chili, too!
Jane
DrPostman
Could have been older deer. They don't taste as good. Younger deer
have a dark red color, especially if you are looking at ground.
DrPostman
wrote:
Yea, but I didn't want to offend the chili purists who believe that
the meat in chili should be in small chunks.
Bookman
"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
<Blink> Ground meat _and_ small chunks, don'tcha mean?
Overkill is _never_ enough with chili.
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>"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
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>> Yea, but I didn't want to offend the chili purists who believe that
>> the meat in chili should be in small chunks.
>
><Blink> Ground meat _and_ small chunks, don'tcha mean?
>Overkill is _never_ enough with chili.
>
And then there is the whole bean/no bean controversy.
Therion Ware
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:38 GMT in alt.atheism, Bookman ("Bookman"
<thebo...@kc.rr.comNULL>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Now there's a thought to conjure with.... I made a chili with a nice
bit of filet beef on Monday which was ready for last night. The really
important thing about this is:
==> do not allow your Maine coon cat to eat any, because then it will
jump up on to a high shelf in the kitchen, and proceed to projectile
vomit in random directions while looking totally unconcerned. Cats
apparently sneeze at the fastest velocity of any animal, and what I
got out of the way of wasn't much slower....
Still, that said, I like the idea of ground beef and big chunks of
meat!
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"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
I do both kinds of chili, depending on my mood. Variety is the spice of
life, after all!
Jane
Strider
"dreamwalker" <backf...@dead.net> wrote in message
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>
> "DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
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> > On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:45:39 -0500, "dreamwalker"
> > <backf...@dead.net> wrote:
> > Yep, except for the ground. I love the hell out of ground venison.
> > Makes the best spaghetti in the world.
>
> Mmm, I'm hungry now. Mix it with some lean pork. About 80/20 heavy on the
venison. Throw it on the
> Weber for a good cooking. The ground pork picks up the charcoal flavor. A
very good, low fat dish.
***snip***
I can tell you guys aren't from around here. I never hear the term "venison"
here except from migrants from the North. It's called "deer meat" here. ;-)
Strider
DrPostman
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"Eris" <vith...@antispm.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:39:53 -0400, "Jane" <pushl...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Well, I guess I'll be wasting it awhile yet, 'cause I ain't giving up my
> >T-bone steak (or my venison :) )!
>
> Okay, I kill and eat Deer meat, but it is not my favorite tasting
> meat. Would appreciate a link to or a couple of good Venison recipes.
About any recipe for beef works for deer if you take the fact that the deer
is exceptionally lean and sometimes a bit tough. Boiled recipes (soups,
stews) work the same excpt that you just need to boil longer. A pressure
cooker is great.
Prim cuts from the younger does are my favorite as they aren't too tough to
just slap on the charcoal grill and paste with BBQ sauce.
If you use ground deer, then you may want to add a bit of fat if you plan to
fry as 'burgers.
I had some exceptional deer sausage (Virginia style) once but, other than
the fact that he added pork fat, I don't know the recipe.
Strider
The Independent of Clackamas County
I add venison to Elk as Elk is a very mild meat that needs to have
something done to it. Elk on it's own is almost bland. When you cook
elk steaks and roasts, a little liquid smoke, Worcestershire sauce,
garlic and onion oil works real well to give it some body. I have found
that Caribou is the same way.
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>
Strider
"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:48:54 -0400, "Strider" <str...@usit.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"dreamwalker" <backf...@dead.net> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> "DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
> >> news:d97qi0po31dc8mrkp...@4ax.com...
> >> > On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:45:39 -0500, "dreamwalker"
> >> > <backf...@dead.net> wrote:
> >***snip***
> >
> >> > Yep, except for the ground. I love the hell out of ground venison.
> >> > Makes the best spaghetti in the world.
> >>
> >> Mmm, I'm hungry now. Mix it with some lean pork. About 80/20 heavy on
the
> >venison. Throw it on the
> >> Weber for a good cooking. The ground pork picks up the charcoal flavor.
A
> >very good, low fat dish.
> >
> >***snip***
> >
> >I can tell you guys aren't from around here. I never hear the term
"venison"
> >here except from migrants from the North. It's called "deer meat" here.
;-)
> >
> >Strider
> >
>
> Not around the Mid-South.
>
Must be from the influence of the carpetbaggers.
Strider
Gunner
wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:23:29 GMT, Gunner wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:09:34 -0700, The Independent of Clackamas
>> County <jam...@web-ster.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So in their theory ( after they are city dwellers with all that book
>>> learnen ) my be accurate, (remember they are also calculating the amount
>>> of water necessary to grow cattle feed ) they have never been on a
>>> honest to goodness farm/ranch. If they had they would find that the
>>> lack of water dictates what kind of agriculture is practiced. If you
>>> have lots of water you grow food for human consumption, (and cattle
>>> feed) if you don't have lots of water but lots of ground that then you
>>> grow cattle.
>>>
>>> Remember in the high desert you get 10 inches of moisture per year of
>>> which more than 75% is evaporated back up into the atmosphere.
>>>
>>> The Independent
>>
>> So far to date, at my home, the rain fall for the year has been 2.8",
>> where the norm is 4.2"
>
>How fascinating.
>
>I bet you weigh your snot too.
Last time I did, it was about 2.5 oz for the year.
2 oz more than your brain. Drink lots of water, as your brain has a
long way to go to catch up with my snot.
Gunner
<autod...@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
>==> do not allow your Maine coon cat to eat any,
<Perk>
Maine coon cat?
Are they as big and as smart as the stories say?
Gunner, Cat lover and property of several regular cats.
Robibnikoff
"Gunner" <gunner...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:siuri0hj5f8c1s5el...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:14:46 +0100, Therion Ware
> <autod...@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
>
> >==> do not allow your Maine coon cat to eat any,
>
> <Perk>
> Maine coon cat?
>
> Are they as big and as smart as the stories say?
Can't vouch for their intelligence, but I remember seeing them at local cat
shows and they're absolutely huge! :)
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Therion Ware
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:59:04 GMT in alt.atheism, Gunner (Gunner
<gunner...@lightspeed.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:14:46 +0100, Therion Ware
><autod...@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
>
>>==> do not allow your Maine coon cat to eat any,
>
><Perk>
>Maine coon cat?
>
>Are they as big and as smart as the stories say?
Oh yes.
Apart from the throwing up, of course.
http://www.video2cd.co.uk/mainecoon-1.html
for your pleasure.
Aratzio
transparently proposed:
>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:39:21 GMT, Peter J Ross <gad...@NOSPAMmeow.org>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:23:29 GMT, Gunner wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:09:34 -0700, The Independent of Clackamas
>>> County <jam...@web-ster.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So in their theory ( after they are city dwellers with all that book
>>>> learnen ) my be accurate, (remember they are also calculating the amount
>>>> of water necessary to grow cattle feed ) they have never been on a
>>>> honest to goodness farm/ranch. If they had they would find that the
>>>> lack of water dictates what kind of agriculture is practiced. If you
>>>> have lots of water you grow food for human consumption, (and cattle
>>>> feed) if you don't have lots of water but lots of ground that then you
>>>> grow cattle.
>>>>
>>>> Remember in the high desert you get 10 inches of moisture per year of
>>>> which more than 75% is evaporated back up into the atmosphere.
>>>>
>>>> The Independent
>>>
>>> So far to date, at my home, the rain fall for the year has been 2.8",
>>> where the norm is 4.2"
>>
>>How fascinating.
>>
>>I bet you weigh your snot too.
>
>Last time I did, it was about 2.5 oz for the year.
> 2 oz more than your brain. Drink lots of water, as your brain has a
>long way to go to catch up with my snot.
>
>Gunner
Autoflame admission of having head full of snot noted.
Therion Ware
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:17:13 -0400 in alt.atheism, Robibnikoff
("Robibnikoff" <witc...@broomstick.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
>
>"Gunner" <gunner...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>news:siuri0hj5f8c1s5el...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:14:46 +0100, Therion Ware
>> <autod...@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
>>
>> >==> do not allow your Maine coon cat to eat any,
>>
>> <Perk>
>> Maine coon cat?
>>
>> Are they as big and as smart as the stories say?
>
>Can't vouch for their intelligence, but I remember seeing them at local cat
>shows and they're absolutely huge! :)
Yes. But Next in the list is a wildcat (Scottish) followed by a
Leopard. Then a Tiger.
That'll really* piss the neighbours off. Not to mention the SAS.
Gunner
<autod...@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:59:04 GMT in alt.atheism, Gunner (Gunner
><gunner...@lightspeed.net>) said, directing the reply to
>alt.atheism
>
>
>
>>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:14:46 +0100, Therion Ware
>><autod...@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
>>
>>>==> do not allow your Maine coon cat to eat any,
>>
>><Perk>
>>Maine coon cat?
>>
>>Are they as big and as smart as the stories say?
>
>Oh yes.
>
>Apart from the throwing up, of course.
>
>http://www.video2cd.co.uk/mainecoon-1.html
>
>for your pleasure.
Many thanks. I run sorta an impromtu cat rescue..when folks throw them
away..they tend to wind up at my place...Im feeding about 20 of them,
some feral, some handleable. I give away the kittens pretty easily,
but the adults are more problematic.
Ive been fascinated by the coon cats, and would someday like to be
owned by one. Not many of them in California it seems, and I cant
bring myself to spend the money to buy one.
"Buy a cat? Are you fucking nutz?"
Shrug
Thanks
Gunner
Gunner
wrote:
Autoflame admission of having brains smaller than a sinus load of
snot noted.
Jane
"Strider" <str...@usit.net> wrote in message
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We call ruffed grouse "partridge", to!
Jane
Aratzio
transparently proposed:
Again the survivalist retard flames his own ass. *sigh*
Step by step just so you get it the first time.
1. Jade flames you.
2. You attempt flame of Jade and in process flame yourself.
3. I point out what an ass you are by flaming yourself.
4. You mistake me for Jade thus proving I am correct.
Now if you would like we can cover it in finer detail in case both
your neurons are not working today or you are still having attribution
issues.
'Ratz
Gunner
wrote:
>>>
>>Autoflame admission of having brains smaller than a sinus load of
>>snot noted.
>>
>
>Again the survivalist retard flames his own ass. *sigh*
>
>Step by step just so you get it the first time.
>
>1. Jade flames you.
>2. You attempt flame of Jade and in process flame yourself.
>3. I point out what an ass you are by flaming yourself.
>4. You mistake me for Jade thus proving I am correct.
>
>Now if you would like we can cover it in finer detail in case both
>your neurons are not working today or you are still having attribution
>issues.
>
>'Ratz
Jade? Ratz? Who cares. A cunt is a cunt.
Aratzio
transparently proposed:
>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:36:58 -0700, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>Autoflame admission of having brains smaller than a sinus load of
>>>snot noted.
>>>
>>
>>Again the survivalist retard flames his own ass. *sigh*
>>
>>Step by step just so you get it the first time.
>>
>>1. Jade flames you.
>>2. You attempt flame of Jade and in process flame yourself.
>>3. I point out what an ass you are by flaming yourself.
>>4. You mistake me for Jade thus proving I am correct.
>>
>>Now if you would like we can cover it in finer detail in case both
>>your neurons are not working today or you are still having attribution
>>issues.
>>
>>'Ratz
>
>Jade? Ratz? Who cares. A cunt is a cunt.
>
>Gunner
>
*SIGH*
Survivalists are always such poor losers. Yet they always come back
for more. Must be that survivalist training. Teaches you how to
survive your daily spnaking.
'Ratz
Daedalus
>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:36:58 -0700, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>Autoflame admission of having brains smaller than a sinus load of
>>>snot noted.
>>>
>>
>>Again the survivalist retard flames his own ass. *sigh*
>>
>>Step by step just so you get it the first time.
>>
>>1. Jade flames you.
>>2. You attempt flame of Jade and in process flame yourself.
>>3. I point out what an ass you are by flaming yourself.
>>4. You mistake me for Jade thus proving I am correct.
>>
>>Now if you would like we can cover it in finer detail in case both
>>your neurons are not working today or you are still having attribution
>>issues.
>>
>>'Ratz
>
>Jade? Ratz? Who cares. A cunt is a cunt.
Your pet goat wishes you wouldn't think that way.
Jade
dreamwalker
Refer to it as "deer meat" around hear and we'll look at you like you're a ignorant savage. As we
should.
>
> Strider
>
>
DrPostman
What about "dear" meat?
Bookman
"DrPostman" <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message
I wouldn't worry about them, DrP. Anyone who is more worried about
terminology than the ability to place the magic pink ring is obviously an
uncultured barbarian.
Smoke 'em, "elder brother"!
Saturday, I'm doing 2 whole chickens, and I plan to make a fruit glaze
to "set" on them.
Bunn E. Rabbit
<autod...@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:38 GMT in alt.atheism, Bookman ("Bookman"
><thebo...@kc.rr.comNULL>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
>>
>><Blink> Ground meat _and_ small chunks, don'tcha mean?
>>Overkill is _never_ enough with chili.
>
>Now there's a thought to conjure with.... I made a chili with a nice
>bit of filet beef on Monday which was ready for last night. The really
>important thing about this is:
>
>==> do not allow your Maine coon cat to eat any, because then it will
>jump up on to a high shelf in the kitchen, and proceed to projectile
>vomit in random directions while looking totally unconcerned.
Poor Kitty ate some of 'em spices.
>Cats
>apparently sneeze at the fastest velocity of any animal, and what I
>got out of the way of wasn't much slower....
>
Thanks for sharing. <rabbit takes veg. chili away to the freezer.>
>Still, that said, I like the idea of ground beef and big chunks of
>meat!
Do we have to keep saying "chunks" in this thread? <rabbit grabs
brown paper bag>
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Gunner
wrote:
>>>Now if you would like we can cover it in finer detail in case both
>>>your neurons are not working today or you are still having attribution
>>>issues.
>>>
>>>'Ratz
>>
>>Jade? Ratz? Who cares. A cunt is a cunt.
>>
>>Gunner
>>
>
>*SIGH*
>
>Survivalists are always such poor losers. Yet they always come back
>for more. Must be that survivalist training. Teaches you how to
>survive your daily spnaking.
>
>'Ratz
>
It simply means we are stubborn, and it takes more than childish
futzing to stop us when we have our goals laid out.
Shrug...really, who cares which Leftist is spewing at the moment? The
mantra is the same from all of them, and any good insult can be used
to wide effect as most of them are like cookie cutter cut outs.
Gunner
That the best you can do?
snicker....lol
Strider
That would be an ignorant savage with a truck load of deer meat.
Strider
> >
> > Strider
> >
> >
>
>
Aratzio
got double secret probation because:
>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:31:50 -0700, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>>Now if you would like we can cover it in finer detail in case both
>>>>your neurons are not working today or you are still having attribution
>>>>issues.
>>>>
>>>>'Ratz
>>>
>>>Jade? Ratz? Who cares. A cunt is a cunt.
>>>
>>>Gunner
>>>
>>
>>*SIGH*
>>
>>Survivalists are always such poor losers. Yet they always come back
>>for more. Must be that survivalist training. Teaches you how to
>>survive your daily spnaking.
>>
>>'Ratz
>>
>It simply means we are stubborn, and it takes more than childish
>futzing to stop us when we have our goals laid out.
No it means you are too stupid to figure out you are way out of your
class and have had your head handed to you as usual.
>
>Shrug...really, who cares which Leftist is spewing at the moment? The
>mantra is the same from all of them, and any good insult can be used
>to wide effect as most of them are like cookie cutter cut outs.
>
Translation:
Gunner is too stupid to think of anything of his own so he just does
copy and paste insults.
Survivalist, not likely as dumb as you are.
'Ratz
Aratzio
got double secret probation because:
>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:32:36 GMT, Daedalus <ja...@netkooks.org> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:14:55 GMT, Gunner
>><gunner...@lightspeed.net>, wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:36:58 -0700, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Autoflame admission of having brains smaller than a sinus load of
>>>>>snot noted.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Again the survivalist retard flames his own ass. *sigh*
>>>>
>>>>Step by step just so you get it the first time.
>>>>
>>>>1. Jade flames you.
>>>>2. You attempt flame of Jade and in process flame yourself.
>>>>3. I point out what an ass you are by flaming yourself.
>>>>4. You mistake me for Jade thus proving I am correct.
>>>>
>>>>Now if you would like we can cover it in finer detail in case both
>>>>your neurons are not working today or you are still having attribution
>>>>issues.
>>>>
>>>>'Ratz
>>>
>>>Jade? Ratz? Who cares. A cunt is a cunt.
>>
>>Your pet goat wishes you wouldn't think that way.
>>
>>Jade
>>
>That the best you can do?
>
>snicker....lol
>
>Gunner
>
Copy and paste gunner goes for the lame and hits it. Wow folks he
really showed Jade on that one. *sigh*. Pathetic is your life Bummer.
It appears Gunner is still a bit wobbly from his previous spnakings
and is not up to his usual lame and dull standard replys.
'Ratz
Peter J Ross
Aaargh! You've outed my PJR sock!
Jade
Gunner
wrote:
>On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:12:19 GMT, Gunner <gunner...@lightspeed.net>
>got double secret probation because:
>
>>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:31:50 -0700, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>Now if you would like we can cover it in finer detail in case both
>>>>>your neurons are not working today or you are still having attribution
>>>>>issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>'Ratz
>>>>
>>>>Jade? Ratz? Who cares. A cunt is a cunt.
>>>>
>>>>Gunner
>>>>
>>>
>>>*SIGH*
>>>
>>>Survivalists are always such poor losers. Yet they always come back
>>>for more. Must be that survivalist training. Teaches you how to
>>>survive your daily spnaking.
>>>
>>>'Ratz
>>>
>>It simply means we are stubborn, and it takes more than childish
>>futzing to stop us when we have our goals laid out.
>
>No it means you are too stupid to figure out you are way out of your
>class and have had your head handed to you as usual.
>
Chuckle..whatever you say.
>>
>>Shrug...really, who cares which Leftist is spewing at the moment? The
>>mantra is the same from all of them, and any good insult can be used
>>to wide effect as most of them are like cookie cutter cut outs.
>>
>
>Translation:
>Gunner is too stupid to think of anything of his own so he just does
>copy and paste insults.
Interesting comment for a cookie cut out.
>
>Survivalist, not likely as dumb as you are.
>
>'Ratz
Whatever you say.
Gunner Asch