உதவி தேவை - NHM software செயல்படவில்லை

[Sathiesh Kumar]

நண்பர்களே, Though I downloaded NHM software a month ago, i had been using it only for the past 2 days. .Suddenly during a scan , trojan virus was found in NHM software and been disabled.(Kaspersky anti virus software was installed in my computer) If i try to install it (after redownloading freshly)  the following message appears The setup files are corrupted. Please obtain anew copy of the program i have been trying , but all my efforts are in vain உதவி தேவை S.Sathiesh Kumar www.Incrediblekumari.blogspot.com

[Madhurabharathi]

I had been using NHM Writer for several years now.

 

Suddenly a couple of days back it failed to work, for no reason at all. I uninstalled and tried to reinstal. But, unable to do. It refuses to remove some of the files used by the software saying that they are being used by some other applications, which in fact is not true.

 

So, the old one is not working and the new installation is not possible. I am at a loss.

 

Can someone help!

 

Madhurabharati 

2010/9/1 Sathiesh Kumar <sathie...@yahoo.co.uk>

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[Hari Krishnan]

2010/9/1 Madhurabharathi <madhura...@gmail.com>

I had been using NHM Writer for several years now.

 

Suddenly a couple of days back it failed to work, for no reason at all. I uninstalled and tried to reinstal. But, unable to do. It refuses to remove some of the files used by the software saying that they are being used by some other applications, which in fact is not true.

 

It happened with me this morning and that is why I am writing in English.  I have installed NHM in my brother's computer, from where I am operating now.  When I booted the machine this morning, I noticed the system tray icon of Kaspersky Antivirus has a different look.  This is something that I do everyday, at boot and sometimes in between.  I checked up and noticed that NHM Writer's executable file is affected by some trojan and that it could not be removed, whatever the trick you adopt.  I used the system restore utility of Windows 7 which has a 'Check for Malicious programs' option.  And this check also pointed to NHM Writer's executable file. 

Kaspersky has long been notifying that NHM is of doubtful behaviour, and is sending data from the machine.  I have been ignoring this all these years, under the impression that this is another barking at the wrong tree by an Antivirus.  But now, I have serious doubts.  Unable to rectify or remove the affected file, I used System Restore and rebooted the machine.  Now, the System Tray has the Bell icon of NHM.  But no matter how much I try, it refuses to type in Tamil, though I have used the keyboard shortcut as well as the mouse-click options. 

 

I guess Badri needs to be sounded on this.  Does NHM Writer come with an inbuilt trojan or data miner, or is it a mere accident?  It has happened with two other memebers in the group.  Kaspersky has been terming NHM as a Trusted Item, as defined by the user all these days.  And I have been telling Kaspersky notifications to treat it as Trusted.  Can I continue to trust?  I am marking a copy to Badri. 


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ஹரிகி,

NHM Writer வந்த புதிதிலும் இதே மாதிரி சொல்லி பிளாக்குகள் வந்ததாக ஞாபகம். உங்களின் கணினியில் Kaspersky காட்டும் தகவல்களை இங்கே இடமுடியுமா? ஒரு நிரலியில் ட்ரோஜன் இருக்கா இல்லையா என பார்ப்பது எளிது என்றே நினைக்கிறேன்.

மேலும் இந்த ட்ரோஜன் NHM Writer ல் இருக்கும் ஏதேனும் பின் வழியை பயன்படுத்தி கூட உள்ளே நுழைந்திருக்கலாம். இந்த மாதிரி உத்தி வழக்கமாக எல்லா நிரலிகளிலும் IE உட்பட நடக்கின்றது. 

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2010/9/1 Hari Krishnan <hari.har...@gmail.com>

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Hari Krishnan <hari.har...@gmail.com>
Date: 2010/9/1
Subject: Re: [MinTamil] உதவி தேவை - NHM software செயல்படவில்லை
To: Badri Seshadri <bses...@gmail.com>

2010/9/1 Badri Seshadri <bses...@gmail.com>

Those who use AVG, Norton and other antiviruses have no problems. I can tell you that NHM Writer does not send any data out of your machine to anywhere, which can easily be tested, by looking at ports and connections made. However, it is up to those of you whether you should trust NHM Writer or not.

In the meantime, we will try to find what the problem is with Kaspersky and try to fix it.

You have the choice of working with other input method programs such as e-kalappai, Murasu etc. Of course, you also have the choice of not using Kaspersky and using Norton and AVG etc. :-)

Thanks a lot Badri for your patience.  I was concerned because three of us have reported problem.  And at least two of us (me and Madhu) have Kaspersky.

I wanted to keep you informed of the situation.  Not that I do not trust NHM.  I prefer using NHM over the many other alternatives.  I will rather stay than moving away.  That's why I sent the mail.  Else, I would have chosen the old Kalappai back.  No.  I wouldn't do that because this is a lot more convenient, adoptable and a very useful tool.  My apologies if my last lines sounded harsh.

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I use Norton 2010 and it has never given red flag for NHM


Vijayaraghavan

On 1 Sep, 09:06, Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com>
> Date: 2010/9/1
> Subject: Re: [MinTamil] உதவி தேவை - NHM software செயல்படவில்லை

> To: Badri Seshadri <bsesha...@gmail.com>
>
> 2010/9/1 Badri Seshadri <bsesha...@gmail.com>

>
> Those who use AVG, Norton and other antiviruses have no problems. I can tell
> > you that NHM Writer does not send any data out of your machine to anywhere,
> > which can easily be tested, by looking at ports and connections made.
> > However, it is up to those of you whether you should trust NHM Writer or
> > not.
>
> > In the meantime, we will try to find what the problem is with Kaspersky and
> > try to fix it.
>
> > You have the choice of working with other input method programs such as
> > e-kalappai, Murasu etc. Of course, you also have the choice of not using
> > Kaspersky and using Norton and AVG etc. :-)
>
> Thanks a lot Badri for your patience.  I was concerned because three of us
> have reported problem.  And at least two of us (me and Madhu) have
> Kaspersky.
> I wanted to keep you informed of the situation.  Not that I do not trust
> NHM.  I prefer using NHM over the many other alternatives.  I will rather
> stay than moving away.  That's why I sent the mail.  Else, I would have
> chosen the old Kalappai back.  No.  I wouldn't do that because this is a lot
> more convenient, adoptable and a very useful tool.  My apologies if my last
> lines sounded harsh.
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> அன்புடன்,
> ஹரிகி.
>
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[Nagarajan Vadivel]

Trojan attack in one of the .dll files detected in Kaspersky
Nagarajan

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[யதார்த்தா கி.பென்னேஸ்வரன்]

I am also using Kapersky.    I was getting the message repeatedly.  I could not work further.  So I removed NHM.

 

I will wait till the horoscopes of Kapersky and NHM go together. 

 

As Hariki said, NHM was very convenient and adoptable. 

 

Penneswaran

 

 

 

 

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Sirs,

It is me also joining your list. I am using Windows 7 Home edition with Kapersky 2010. Yesterday evening I got message that Some win32 trojan got inflicted and then I was doing cleaning up work. then subsequently when I find NHM can not b used. Then I uninstalled completely then fresh downloaded and trying to install I got the message while installation that setup file has been blocked for trojan eror.

Please could anybody help me in this regard.

K.V.Vighnesh Chennai

2010/9/1 விஜயராகவன் <vij...@gmail.com>

I use Norton 2010 and it has never given red flag for NHM

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[Raja sankar]

It seems that 

Kaspersky has an issue in removing those Trojans or it is an false positive(alerting when there is no issue). If you could post the name of trojan or screenshots of the error message, it is easier to find a solution for this.

Rajasankar

2010/9/1 Astrologer Vighnesh சென்னை <lakshmi...@gmail.com>

[Astrologer Vighnesh சென்னை]

Sir here is the screen shot showing while attempting to install it.

Please go through it. And I have to check my other laptop with Windows XP Pro edition. I have not used it for the past 9days. I have to open and check it.

K.V.Vighnesh.Chennai.

2010/9/1 Raja sankar <errajasa...@gmail.com>

[Nagarajan Vadivel]

As far as Trojans are concerned they are not very serious threats.  Even after getting the warning I continue to use unless and until I get into a serious problem.  As a knee jerk reaction many tend to uninstall the NHM without a total cleanup of the software including the registry.  When I saw the problem horoscope matching and I thought of you. Here you are with the same problem.  Welcome
Nagarajan

2010/9/1 Raja sankar <errajasa...@gmail.com>

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[Hari Krishnan]

2010/9/1 Raja sankar <errajasa...@gmail.com>

It seems that 

Kaspersky has an issue in removing those Trojans or it is an false positive(alerting when there is no issue). If you could post the name of trojan or screenshots of the error message, it is easier to find a solution for this.

Yes. You are right.  It is not possible to get the notifications of Kaspersky either as screen short or text, because the Notification is displayed in system tray for a couple of seconds and off it goes before one could read it fully.

There is no need to uninstall NHM Writer.  I have found a simple solution.  If you are using Kaspersky 2011, double click on System Tray Icon, open the Scan Tab.  At the centre bottom you have a circle with an arrow, 'To test an individual object, drag it here or browse it'.  Browse it is not of much help because it opens only the C:\ drive.  Therefore

 

1) Resize Kaspersky to less than half a screen and keep it on one side.

2) Go to My Computer (If you use XP) or Computer (if you use Windows 7) open C:\ drive and the Program Files Folder.  You will find the NHM Writer sub-folder.  Open it and the NHM Writer executable file is seen there.  Have this window also resized to less than half the screen and keep it on the other side.

3) Drag the NHM Writer exe file and drop it on the Test area

 

Now, the test is carried out and the problem is fixed.  Kaspersky no more reports trojan blah blah.

 

If you are using Kaspersky 2010, I forget the settings. Anyway, I remember this much.  Look for Safe Run tab.  And when you find it, drag and drop the exe file in the Sandbox.  That would solve it. 

 

But then, now I have overcome the problem of Kaspersky's false alarm.  NHM seems to have got offened (like Badri :D) and is still not writing Tamil.  Anyway, I will be back in home tomorrow.  Do further research and come out with solutions. 

 

Though the names of the Trojans could not be read, I am attaching herewith a screen shot done with the Snipping Tool, from the Report Log of Kaspersky.

 

Hope this helps. 

[Hari Krishnan]

Here is what Badris says:

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From: Badri Seshadri <bses...@gmail.com>
Date: 2010/9/1
Subject: Re: Fwd: [MinTamil] உதவி தேவை - NHM software செயல்படவில்லை
To: Hari Krishnan <hari.har...@gmail.com>


By the way, we have reported this to Kaspersky guys and they are looking into this. They will follow up soon.

--badri

[Raja sankar]

It seems that trojan-spy.win32.delf.ker is keylogger malware. Either the system needs scanned with a another anti virus program or we need to wait until 

Kaspersky guys says some word. 

I've searched in 

Kaspersky forums, there is no mention of this keylogger being a false positive, though there are cases 

Kaspersky gives false warnings.

ராஜசங்கர்

2010/9/1 Hari Krishnan <hari.har...@gmail.com>

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2010/9/1 Selva Murali <mural...@gmail.com>

காஸ்பர் ஸ்கை சில நேரங்களில் தமிழ் தளங்களையும் ப்ரச்னைக்குரிய தளம் என்கிறது? என் அப்படி சொல்கிறார்கள் என்று  சில முறை கேட்டும் பதில் இல்லை :(

After all, all the notifications that we are getting are pre-written texts, mostly chosen from the nearest possible and available text that is embedded in the programme. Therefore, all the notifications need not be read word for word and need not mean every word of the text.  When a notification is displayed (and that includes Windows itself) what it signifies is that we are in a near possible situation.  The exact situation may or may not be the same as displayed in the text.  And it is due to this fact that I have on earlier occasions added NHM to Trusted list. 

In the present circumstances, Kaspersky is the only viable, affordable and almost effective software.  I have been using Norton for several years prior to migration to Kaspersky.  A three user licene, a simple Internet Protection version (without protection for online trading activities) costs Rs.2,700 and a single user licence is around Rs.1300.  Compare this with Rs.600 per three user licence of Kaspersky.  Can one afford shelling out around Rs.3000 every year for Norton?  Added to this, Norton slows down the start up process, which Kaspersky does not. 

 

Out of the many anti virus softwares I have used, including Dr Solmon's, McAffee, Norton, K7 et al, K7 used to affordable and was indeed an excellent anti virus.  In fact, in the year 2000 Deepavali, when Satyam sent a Deepavali greetings to all its subscribers, which contained all the e-mail addresses of all the subscribers, someone from Andhra used the Reply All option and sent 13 dfifferent virus programmes to all users.  And when the affected user sent a mail to his friend, the virus spread to the other person, who is not a Satyam user.  The problem spread to Singapore.  At that time I was with ChennaiOnline and three of the seven servers were seriously affected due to this problem.  K7 swung into action and fixed it all in a remarkably short time.  But then, the cost of K7 has also gone up beyond reach. 

 

The reason why we stay with Kaspersky is its cost effectiveness, and utility.  Almost as effective as Norton, but much faster.  Norton would make the machine stumble, if you run a system scan.  I have checked this with Task Manager while it runs.  Almost 99% of the RAM would be in use at that time, thus disabling the user from accessing other files for about a couple of hours till the check is completed.  Kaspersky takes about 60-70% and though  the machine gets slow during the Virus scan, you still are able to work.

 

Now that NHM has taken it up with Kaspersky, let's hope for better times. 

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Dear Friend

the same thing happens to my computor also

and it spoils the nhm software. I with

kaspersky total scan to my computor.

I am also trying another soft ware

yours

pollachi nasan

1 செப்டெம்ப்ர், 2010 7:06 am அன்று, Sathiesh Kumar <sathie...@yahoo.co.uk> எழுதியது:

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[Mohamed Riyas]

The best thing is don`t use kasper sky..use NOD32 or AVG

Mohamed Riyas

[Nagarajan Vadivel]

When I check the thread I see a pattern.  All the persons infected with the virus are from min Tamil thread.  May be the virus  from the min tamil web site  played the trick
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In this site http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ you can down VIPRE Anti-
virus and Firewall software for free and use it for 1 or 3 months
free. You can scan your machine with it and remove any dodgy files.
Vipre is a good AV and anti-spyware software


Vijayaraghavan


On 1 Sep, 09:14, யதார்த்தா கி.பென்னேஸ்வரன் <penneswa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am also using Kapersky.    I was getting the message repeatedly.  I could
> not work further.  So I removed NHM.
>
> I will wait till the horoscopes of Kapersky and NHM go together.
>
> As Hariki said, NHM was very convenient and adoptable.
>
> Penneswaran
>

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> 5A/11032, Second Floor, Gali No.9, Sat Nagar, Karol Bagh, New Delhi-110 005
> Phone: 9910031958   #  Web site:http://www.vadakkuvaasal.com/
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> 2010/9/1 Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com>

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> > From: Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com>
> > Date: 2010/9/1
> > Subject: Re: [MinTamil] உதவி தேவை - NHM software செயல்படவில்லை

> > To: Badri Seshadri <bsesha...@gmail.com>
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> > 2010/9/1 Badri Seshadri <bsesha...@gmail.com>
>

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[sk natarajan]

kasper sky.  நல்ல  anti virus தான்
எனக்கும் நம் இதே போல பிரச்சினை   வந்தது
நான் NHM   யை நீக்கி விட்டேன் இருந்தும் அதன் ஒரு பாகம்  தொடர்ந்து தொந்தரவு செய்தது
மீண்டும் விண்டோஸ் மாற்றியமையால் நிம்மதியடைந்தேன் 


என்றும் அன்புடன்
சா.கி.நடராஜன்.
http://tamizhswasam.blogspot.com/

2010/9/1 Mohamed Riyas <riyas...@gmail.com>

[Hari Krishnan]

2010/9/1 Nagarajan Vadivel <radius.co...@gmail.com>

When I check the thread I see a pattern.  All the persons infected with the virus are from min Tamil thread.  May be the virus  from the min tamil web site  played the trick
Nagarajn

No.  That definitely is not the case.  If you observe, all the persons who have reported the problem are Kaspersky users.  Badri has explained the problem with Kaspersky, which wrongly detects NHM as a trojan.  He has explained the technicalities involved too.

We are getting all reports from Min Tamil members, because this is Min Tamil group and only its members can post mails.  All those who have reported are Min Tamil members+Kaspersky users.  Therefore, the conclusion is not correct.

 

On the lighter side, a joke.  A Statistical analysis read like this: A survey was conducted in the Cancer Institue.  Of the 3858 cancer patients, 2923 were riding motorcycles and the rest had scooters.  Therefore, it is apparent that motor cycle riders are more prone to cancer than scooter riders.  If you ride a car, you will not get cancer!

[விஜயராகவன்]

One problem with Kaspersky may be fonts. If it can't correctly read
Tamil fonts , it gets suspicious and raises alarms.

Vijayaraghavan

[Madhurabharathi]

2010/9/1 Raja sankar <errajasa...@gmail.com>

It seems that 

Kaspersky has an issue in removing those Trojans or it is an false positive(alerting when there is no issue). If you could post the name of trojan or screenshots of the error message, it is easier to find a solution for this.

Rajasankar

 

Kasper (on a full scan of the system) reported the following:

 

Trojan-Spy.win32.Delf.ker
Trojan-Spy.win32.Delf.kes

 

Exploit.Java.Agent.f

 

It will be good if there is a remedy.

 

anbudan

Madhurabharati

[Raja sankar]

Madhurabharati

You need to remove the trojen from system. I think Kaspersky should have an option for that. Then try to install NHM. If you use NHM or keyman etc control of the keyboard will change to that software instead of native Windows. So keylogger trojens will try to take control of that software too. I guess that may be the case here. 

Is it a coincidence that all Kaspersky users+NHM users are affected by this trojen? or is it Nortan/Mcafee is not checking for this trojen?

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2010/9/1 Madhurabharathi <madhura...@gmail.com>

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Yes Rajasankar, Kaspersky strongly recommended delete several times in different locations, which I did. The scan has been running for the past 4 hours and not yet over.

 

Hope I will get rid of the problem with this.

 

anbudan

Madhurabharati

2010/9/1 Raja sankar <errajasa...@gmail.com>

[Nagarajan Vadivel]

Since there is a recess I wish to get myself educated with this issue.  I only mentioned that I see a pattern and accordingly the inference is that the problem

2010/9/1 Hari Krishnan <hari.har...@gmail.com>

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[யதார்த்தா கி.பென்னேஸ்வரன்]

arumbu is also not working properly.  I too have Kapersky.

 

Penneswaran

 

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Dear Friend

[யதார்த்தா கி.பென்னேஸ்வரன்]

I installed Arumbu and again it gave trouble.

My Assistant installed Arumbu in D Drive instead of C Drive and it works wonderfully now.

 

I think NHM can work like this. 

 

I am not an expert in these things. One thing i guess is that NHM or Arumbu will not work on the same drive where Kapersky is also installed.

 

I may be wrong too, as it happen often.

 

Penneswaran

 

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2010/9/1 sk natarajan <sknatar...@gmail.com>

[geeyes]

கடந்த சுமார் ஓராண்டாக என் ஹெச் எம் மென்பொருள் பயன்படுத்தி வருகிறேன்.
அவ்வப்போது இம்மாதிரி தொல்லை தரும்தான். இப்போதும் இரண்டு நாட்களாகச்
செயல்படவில்லை. பலருக்கும் இம்மாதிரி என்பது இப்போது புரிகிறது.

'எபிக்' உலாவியை நான் பயன்படுத்துவதால், அதில் பல மொழிகளுக்கான
தேர்வுரிமை (option) ஒவ்வொரு முறை உள்ளீடு செய்யும்போதும் தானாகக்
கிடைக்கிறது. நாமாகத் தேடவேண்டியதில்லை. ஆகவே ஓரளவு சுலபம்.

மேலும், 'எபிக்' உலாவியில் 'Write' என்ற பெயரில் word processor
முன்னிருப்பாக (default), உலாவியின் ஒரு அம்சமாகக் கிடைக்கிறது. அதிலும்
'எபிக்'கின் மற்ற இடங்களைப் போலத் தமிழ் உட்பட பல்வேறு மொழிகளுக்குமான
தேர்வுரிமை (option) தானாகக் கிடைக்கிறது. அதில் தட்டச்சு செய்து வேறு
எங்கு வேண்டுமானாலும் வெட்டி/ஒட்டிக்கொள்ளலாம்.

மற்றபடி, பத்ரி கூறி யிருப்பதைப் போல காத்திருப்போம்.

அன்புடன்,
ஜி.ஸன்தானம்

[mmanivannan]

From the perspective of an anti-malware software, any software that
intercepts keystrokes is potentially a keyboard logger. Weather
NHMwriter communicates what it captures back to another server is what
is going to determine if it is truly a trojan. And it is often
difficult to determine because most software would get back to their
home server to check for updates and when they do, they may send
information about the software version that is already installed.
Nothing prevents the software from sending coded or encrypted data
back to the server. Thus, unless a software is determined to be a
clean software, most anti-malware would take a conservative approach
and tag such keyboard drivers as keyboard logger trojans, particularly
if the methods to intercept keystrokes are similar. I suspect that,
perhaps that is what is triggering these alerts.

When I first installed NHMwriter, Norton did alert me that it appears
to be a keylogger but I chose to override that alert. The Norton
Insight technology now appears to trust NHMWriter because of hundreds
of Norton users are using it and certain other parameters also
indicate that it is a good file. During the time Norton monitored
this software, it doesn't appear to have done anything suspicious.
While it has not cleared the high bar of being "Norton Trusted", it is
a safe software to use.

I would like Hari and other users to try out Norton products to see
for themselves its performance. We have done a lot to make it really
lean on your system resources. And its file reputation technology is
designed to prevent false positives such as the ones that you are
currently encountering. The large installed base of users forming
Norton Community enables one to decide if a software is worthy of
trust. You may want to try out Norton for yourself. Trialware is
available from Norton website. (norton.com)

நான் இதை ஆங்கிலத்தில் எழுதியிருக்க வேண்டியதில்லை. ஆனால், இவ்வளவு பேர்
எங்கள் போட்டியாளர் செயலியால் செயலிழந்திருக்கும்போது எங்கள் செயலி
நன்றாக வேலை செய்கிறது என்று தம்பட்டம் அடித்துக் கொள்வது போலத் தோன்றுமோ
என்ற தயக்கம். அதே நேரத்தில் என்னுடைய என்.எச்.எம் ரைட்டர் நன்றாகவே
செயலாற்றுகிறது என்பதையும் சொல்லிக் கொள்ள விரும்புகிறேன். (நார்ட்டன்
செயலிகளைப் படைக்கும் உலகக் குழுவில் எனது தலைமையில் சென்னையில் இயங்கும்
எங்கள் அணியும் மிக முக்கியப் பொறுப்பு வகிக்கிறது என்பதில் பெருமை
கொள்கிறேன்.)

அன்புடன்,

மணி மு. மணிவண்ணன்
சென்னை, தமிழ்நாடு

[Hari Krishnan]

2010/9/2 mmanivannan <mmani...@gmail.com>

I would like Hari and other users to try out Norton products to see
for themselves its performance.  We have done a lot to make it really
lean on your system resources.  And its file reputation technology is
designed to prevent false positives such as the ones that you are
currently encountering.  The large installed base of users forming
Norton Community enables one to decide if a software is worthy of
trust.  You may want to try out Norton for yourself. Trialware is
available from Norton website.

Dear Mani,

Thank you for the mail.  I started using computers in the year 1987 and the need for Anti virus was first felt may be in 1991 or 92.  The earlier verses like Ping pong ball (is the name right?) *Say happy birthday to...... (some Rao)' etc. were harmless.  Cookie virus was funny.  One has to type the word Cookie, whenever it asks Give me a Cookie.  Then the DOS viruses picked up viciousness.  My first nightmare was Eddie lives somewhere in time (I faintly recall the name as Eddie).  I was shocked to see portions of my Wordstar files appearing inside the fields of my Dbase files.  It was then that I asked my systems department to install antivirus.  It must have been Nov/Dec 1992.  Since then, in every office I worked, I have been the first person to fight for the purchase of Antivirus and those days, I would go with an update floppy in hand and ensure that every machine gets updated, because that was a time when networking was not yet prevalent in our offices.  

Therefore, I have used almost every brand of Anti Virus, including Quick Heal, K7 and other Indian versions.  Of all these Norton has been my favourite since 1998.  I would ensure that Norton and Norton alone is purchased in the Office (after Dr Solomn's and McAffee were pronounced dead).  When I was working for an organisation, naturally, I could get a copy for my home use and therefore there was no problem.  But.  After I took VR in 2005 and migrated to Bangalore, I had been purchasing Norton till 2008.  It was only then the cost factor started burning my pocket.  It is extraordinarily expensive. To a person like me, who opted out from Private service, not NIL saving, or retirement benefit, and to one who considers it below dignity to get money from son for my personal expenses, Norton has become awfully costly.  That is why I chose Kaspersky.  Cost factor. 

It is like the difference between Chennai Auto driver and Bangalore Auto driver.  Chennai Auto driver would make a single day's earning in a maximum of five trips, charge atrociously high amounts from the commuter, and then after about a four or five hours of driving, give the auto to his friend, go to a bar and drink and lie on the road.  The Bangalore auto drivers accept even short distance trips, keep driving their Autos as long as they can everyday, return the balance of even 50 paise to the commuter and keep working his everyday routine.  He makes money from volume.  Chennai Auto driver believes in making his day's earnings from five or six commuters a day.  

I am sorry for this comparison.  But, to my mind Norton is adopting a Chennai Auto driver attitude.  If you make the product available for say 600 or even 700, nobody is going to say no to Norton.  1500-2300 is pretty too much for people like me.  I am afraid that I am hurting the feelings of a good friend.  But then, if I cannot tell this plain fact point-blank to a person who is at the right place, occupying the right chair, I would not be doing justice to users like me.  Why don't you bring out a lighter version that does not cost this much?  

That is one part.  The other part is the Startup time.  My system takes flat 50 seconds from the time I press the switch, till the time all the system tray executables come and sit in their places and the machine is ready to be used.  Try this with Norton.  It is not possible to boot in less than 3 minutes.  (Of course, in the initial days of installation, the boot time would be lesser.  With the passage of time, it bites into the patience of the user.)  This is problem number two that you have to address.

If these issues could be sorted out, who will say no to Norton?  If you observe, the number of Kaspersky users seems to be rather higher than I expected.  I never thought that it could have picked up the market so soon and would have become this popular a product within such a short space of time.  Norton is in the market, at least for about 15 years (may be more).  Then, why is it that it is not so widely used?  Why should people like me with brand loyalty to Norton cross the floor?

Think from the user's angle.  And you will see the real situation.  Norton should necessarily come out with a lighter version.  (If I may quote the case of Rin, Surf etc. there was a time--in the early 90s--that Rin costed Rs.80/- per Kg.  Surf costed about Rs.5 more.  Then the market stumbled.  Rin and Surf changed the packing, shape and size and to an extent the colour too, and started advertising 'sirf pachees rupye' Only Twenty five Rupees.  They reduced from 80 to 25 and spent on advertising that fact!  And now you know what happened to the market.)

I apologise for being direct and may be a little hard hitting, thought I did not intend it.  I hope you will understand the spirit behind my mail.  

[Hari Krishnan]

2010/9/3 Hari Krishnan <hari.har...@gmail.com>

not NIL saving, or retirement benefit, and to one who considers it below dignity to get money from son for my personal expenses, Norton has become awfully costly.  That is why I chose Kaspersky.  Cost factor. 

This must read as with NIL saving, or retirement benefit

[விஜயராகவன்]

The price of a product is definitely important consideration.
Kaspersky has won admiration for it's quality and is also cheap. In
fact, some free anti-virus software have also won much praise. There
is no linear relationship between quality and price.


Vijayaraghavan

On 3 Sep, 11:35, Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/9/2 mmanivannan <mmanivan...@gmail.com>

[Hari Krishnan]

2010/9/3 விஜயராகவன் <vij...@gmail.com>

In
fact, some free anti-virus software have also  won much praise. There
is no linear relationship between quality and price.

Though AVG and Avira (or some such name) are free anti viruses, I would prefer not to use them.  Because there is no free lunch in the world.  You never know what kind of a virus that Anti Virus would be triggering from behind.  :))

[விஜயராகவன்]

Perhaps cynicism in a virtue in the internet world

Vijayaraghavan

On 3 Sep, 12:23, Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/9/3 விஜயராகவன் <viji...@gmail.com>

[Nagarajan Vadivel]

I started my career with IBM CAM accounting machine in 1969 and moved through a forest of IBM Machines.  Later I had the opportunity to work with mini computers.  Up to this point of time there wan no virus either spoken or practiced.  When the micro computers came into the market and micro computer software were developed the logic gave way to magic.  When micro porcessors were developed there was a need to address the technical riddle of starting the computer.
The technical solution was based on the fantasy created by Baron Munchhausen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_M%C3%BCnchhausen
the boot strapping idea was borrowed from him and the booting programme was placed on the zero sector of the disk which gave way to the mushrooming of virus.  I remember the contribution of Pakistani doctor brothers who first developed the anti-virus software and in order to do business they started spreading the virus programs.
The zero sector is open and so tempting that many programers spend hours to develop a virus and spread them.  If we assume that in Tamilnadu there are 5 lakh students are in the Engineering Colleges sizable number will be seriously and sincerely working on the virus development.
They are the main sponsors for the anti-virus companies to mint millions.
In 1980 for the first time when I started using the PC with Windows they were very suspicious about my activities and labelled as Mr.Virus.  In order to scare them I joined one virus research institute of London and displayed many virus message such as a program of falling letterer and if you press a key your PC will explode.
Now it has become a rat race between the virus injectors and virus healers. 
Whatever said and done now I simply lost the Tamil software. 
Again anti-virus programs are based on magic and logic.  They do whatever they feel it is good according their reasoning and in front of my very eyes Kaspersky removed two .DLL files as virus.
Nagarajan

2010/9/3 விஜயராகவன் <vij...@gmail.com>

The price of a product is definitely important consideration.

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[Hari Krishnan]

2010/9/3 விஜயராகவன் <vij...@gmail.com>

Perhaps cynicism in a virtue in the internet world

Vijayaraghavan

Yes Mr Vijayaraghavan, I agree with you, I am a cynic, on this particular issue.  And it takes some courage to accept that one is a cynic, which I guess you will agree with me.  

While making the above statement, could you notice a tinge of.......?  The old saying is: All generalised statements are always dangerous including this one.

Anyway, I have accepted that I am a cynic as far as this issue is concerned.  And I prefer to confine that statement to myself.  Realisation is a result of self-pursuit.  :)

[வினோத்-VINOTH]

2010/9/3 Hari Krishnan <hari.har...@gmail.com>

நான் அவிரா பயன்படுத்தி வருகிறேன். எந்த பிரச்சனையும் இருப்பதாகத்தெரியவில்லை

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வினோத் கன்னியாகுமரி
http://tamilnanbargal.com/friends/vinoth

[வினோத்-VINOTH]

தற்காலிக தீர்வு இகலப்பை, அல்லது

ஆன்லைன் தமிழ் தட்டச்சிகள்

ஆன்லைன் தமிழ் தட்டச்சி (Online Tamil Typing)

• Tamil Friends (http://tamil2friends.com/tamil)
• Google (http://www.google.com/transliterate/indic/Tamil)

NHM போன்ற மற்ற மென்பொருட்கள்

 

• Google IME transliteration (http://www.google.com/ime/transliteration)
• Microsoft Indic Language Input Tool (http://specials.msn.co.in/ilit/TamilPreInstall.aspx)

[விஜயராகவன்]

A good online Tamil editor.

http://ezilnila.com/nila/unicode_writer.htm

In this for ச், ச , you use s and not c

Vijayaraghavan

On 3 Sep, 15:44, வினோத்-VINOTH <vinoth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> தற்காலிக தீர்வு இகலப்பை, அல்லது
> ஆன்லைன் தமிழ் தட்டச்சிகள்
>
> ஆன்லைன் தமிழ் தட்டச்சி (Online Tamil Typing)
>

>    - Tamil Friends (http://tamil2friends.com/tamil)
>    - Google (http://www.google.com/transliterate/indic/Tamil)
>
> * NHM போன்ற மற்ற மென்பொருட்கள்  *
> *
> *
>
>    - Google IME transliteration (http://www.google.com/ime/transliteration)
>    - Microsoft Indic Language Input Tool (
>    http://specials.msn.co.in/ilit/TamilPreInstall.aspx)
>
> --
> *வினோத் கன்னியாகுமரி*
> *http://tamilnanbargal.com/friends/vinoth*<http://tamilnanbargal.com/friends/vinoth>

[vadivelu kaniappan]

நன்றி! வினோத்! தமிழில் தட்டச்சு செய்ய உதவியமைக்கு. என்னுடைய nhm கூட வேலை செய்ய வில்லை. என்றென்றும் அன்புடன் வடிவேல் கன்னியப்பன்.

3 செப்டெம்ப்ர், 2010 8:49 pm அன்று, விஜயராகவன் <vij...@gmail.com> எழுதியது:

[Nagarajan Vadivel]

e-kalappai installed but using the key board is a new experience with steep learning curve after using the NMH software.  A simple and easy to use  key board with tutorials is a requirement and remains as a dream
Nagarajan

2010/9/3 வினோத்-VINOTH <vino...@gmail.com>

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[Hari Krishnan]

2010/9/4 Nagarajan Vadivel <radius.co...@gmail.com>

e-kalappai installed but using the key board is a new experience with steep learning curve after using the NMH software.  A simple and easy to use  key board with tutorials is a requirement and remains as a dream
Nagarajan

 

 

I was not willing to go back to kalappai, though I was one among the person's who helped with the Tamil Typewriter Keyboard layout, and suggested corrections in the original programme.  NHM has really pampered me.  I was waiting to hear the good news from NHM.  And it has alt last arrived.  I am copy pasting a mail from Sri Nagarajan, the main brain behind the Writer and Converter.  Though he has marked a copy to MinTamil, I am not sure if he is a member of the group and earlier their mails to the group have bounced and forwarded by me.  Let's now read the good news:

 

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nagarajan K.S <naga...@nhm.in>
Date: 4 September 2010 13:01
Subject: it was a false detection
To: mint...@googlegroups.com
Cc: hari.har...@gmail.com

From: <newv...@kaspersky.com>
Date: Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:44 AM
Subject: RE: [VirLabSRF][False alarm on a file][M:1][LN:EN][L:0] [KLAN-81778959]
To: naga...@nhm.in

Hello,

Sorry, it was a false detection. It will be fixed in the next update.
Thank you for your help.

Please quote all when answering.
-----------------
Regards, Kirill Kruglov
Virus Analyst, Kaspersky Lab.

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Manager - Software Products

New Horizon Media Private Limited
33/15 Eldams Road, 2nd Floor
Alwarpet, Chennai 600 018
Ph: +91-44-4200-9601/03/04

Blog : http://nernirai.blogspot.com

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Kaspersky has acknowledged the fact that it was a false alarm and has regretted it.  It has promised to rectify this in the next update.  Since Kaspersky updates take place everyday, it may happen even tomorrow.  Then, reinstall NHM and be happy!

[Hari Krishnan]

2010/9/4 Hari Krishnan <hari.har...@gmail.com>

Kaspersky has acknowledged the fact that it was a false alarm and has regretted it.  It has promised to rectify this in the next update.  Since Kaspersky updates take place everyday, it may happen even tomorrow.  Then, reinstall NHM and be happy!

விடுதலை விடுதலை விடுதலை

பழையருக்கும் இங்கு மெய்லர் ப்லாகருக்கும் விடுதலை

பதிவருக்கும் எழுத்தருக்கும் பழையபடி விடுதலை!

விடுதலை விடுதலை விடுதலை

காஸ்பர்ஸ்கையின் பயனியர்க்குப் பிடித்திருந்த கலியினுக்கும் விடுதலை

காணுமிங்கண் என்னெச்செம்மை நம்பிநின்ற கவிஞருக்கும் விடுதலை...

விடுதலை விடுதலை விடுதலை

என்னெச்செம்மை ட்ரோஜன் என்ற காலங்களும் மாய்ந்தவே

எழுதுதற்குத் தமிழ்கிடைத்து எங்கணுமே பாய்ந்தவே

“தீமையற்ற திறமைமிக்க தொழில்புரிந்து யாவரும்

சேர்ந்த கல்வி ஞானமெய்தி வாழ்வமிந்த புவியிலே“

பிரச்சினை தீர்ந்து.  பாரதியுடைய ‘நாட்டிலே’ என்பாட்டில் புவியிலே என்று மாற்றம் பெற்றிருக்கிறது.

இனிமே எழுதுங்கோ!  ஜோராகா எழுதுங்கோ!  ட்ரோஜன் இல்ல துடப்பமும் இல்லல்லேய்!

 

[mmanivannan]

Dear Hari,

In this forum, I am just your friend. I am not an official spokesman
of Symantec and what I write about the Norton products that we develop
is my personal opinion only.

That said, I am proud of the products we develop. Norton is sweeping
all the awards and benchmark results because Symantec listens to its
customers. Feedback from customers, former, present and future, are
vital to our success and I appreciate your frank response here. Thanks
for having confidence in me to express to share your frank opinions in
a public forum. I'd still insist that you tryout the latest versions
that have been topping the charts in performance and protection.

As you can see from the PC Magazine Review of NIS 2009 product ( see
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330024,00.asp) our performance
has been impressive. In that test Norton added a mere 15 seconds to
the boot process, far less than the 3 minutes that you had
experienced. The NIS 2010 product and the subsequent releases are
building on top of that tradition. Try it for yourself.

I will discuss your comments on pricing and your desire for a lighter
version for India market at a lower price point with the India
Marketing team. I would like to follow up with you directly to seek
further details on your observations.

I am also glad to note that our competitor's diagnosis on NHMWriter
turned out to be a false positive, just as I had anticipated and as
confirmed by Norton.

In this business, we seldom gloat at the misery of our competitors.
It is usually a "there but for the grace of God go I" type of relief
combined with an attempt to learn from the mistakes of others to make
sure that our processes are not vulnerable to that kind of error. But
we strive very hard to keep our competitive edge in technology as
befits the World's Number One security software company.

Regards,

Mani M. Manivannan
Chennai, Tamil Nadu
{disclaimers apply}

On Sep 3, 3:35 pm, Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Therefore, I have used almost every brand of Anti Virus, including Quick
> Heal, K7 and other Indian versions.  Of all these Norton has been my
> favourite since 1998.  I would ensure that Norton and Norton alone is
> purchased in the Office (after Dr Solomn's and McAffee were pronounced
> dead).  When I was working for an organisation, naturally, I could get a
> copy for my home use and therefore there was no problem.  But.  After I took
> VR in 2005 and migrated to Bangalore, I had been purchasing Norton till
> 2008.  It was only then the cost factor started burning my pocket.  It is
> extraordinarily expensive. To a person like me, who opted out from Private
> service, not NIL saving, or retirement benefit, and to one who considers it
> below dignity to get money from son for my personal expenses, Norton has
> become awfully costly.  That is why I chose Kaspersky.  Cost factor.
>
>

> I am sorry for this comparison.  But, to my mind Norton is adopting a
> Chennai Auto driver attitude.  If you make the product available for say 600
> or even 700, nobody is going to say no to Norton.  1500-2300 is pretty too
> much for people like me.  I am afraid that I am hurting the feelings of a
> good friend.  But then, if I cannot tell this plain fact point-blank to a
> person who is at the right place, occupying the right chair, I would not be
> doing justice to users like me.  Why don't you bring out a lighter version
> that does not cost this much?
>
> That is one part.  The other part is the Startup time.  My system takes flat
> 50 seconds from the time I press the switch, till the time all the system
> tray executables come and sit in their places and the machine is ready to be
> used.  Try this with Norton.  It is not possible to boot in less than 3
> minutes.  (Of course, in the initial days of installation, the boot time
> would be lesser.  With the passage of time, it bites into the patience of
> the user.)  This is problem number two that you have to address.
>
> If these issues could be sorted out, who will say no to Norton?  If you
> observe, the number of Kaspersky users seems to be rather higher than I
> expected.  I never thought that it could have picked up the market so soon
> and would have become this popular a product within such a short space of
> time.  Norton is in the market, at least for about 15 years (may be more).
>  Then, why is it that it is not so widely used?  Why should people like me
> with brand loyalty to Norton cross the floor?
>
> Think from the user's angle.  And you will see the real situation.  Norton
> should necessarily come out with a lighter version.  
>

[கா. சேது | K. Sethu]

On Sep 5, 8:58 am, Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/9/4 Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com>

>
>
>
> > Kaspersky has acknowledged the fact that it was a false alarm and has
> > regretted it.  It has promised to rectify this in the next update.  Since
> > Kaspersky updates take place everyday, it may happen even tomorrow.  Then,
> > reinstall NHM and be happy!
>

Here's a later update (yesterday 05th Sept) re-tweet of K. S.
Nagarajan (NHM)that indicates the problem was solved already
yesterday:

http://twitter.com/ksnagarajan/status/23030984448

~Sethu

[வினோத்-VINOTH]

அவிரா (Avira Antivir) ம் NHM ஐ வைரஸ் எனக்கூறி விட்டது. இத்தனைக்கும் அதை நான் தரையிரக்கம் மட்டும் தான் செய்தேன். நிறுவக்கூட இல்லை.. 

[nags]

Thanks Mr.Vinoth for reporting.
We contacted Avira and upon analysis, they too say it is a false
positive.

Soon, Avira also remove this false alert.

For more details, please look at the link given below..
- Hide quoted text -

http://analysis.avira.com/samples/details.php?uniqueid=234zXPIP8h46X9jgHDLtjUhkZ4ICkV1E&incidentid=595660

Thanks and Enjoy Writing with NHM Writer :-)

On Sep 7, 10:00 pm, வினோத்-VINOTH <vinoth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> அவிரா (Avira Antivir) ம் NHM ஐ வைரஸ் எனக்கூறி விட்டது. இத்தனைக்கும் அதை நான்
> தரையிரக்கம் மட்டும் தான் செய்தேன். நிறுவக்கூட இல்லை..
>
> [image: nhm.JPG]
>
> --

> *வினோத் கன்னியாகுமரி*
> *http://tamilnanbargal.com/friends/vinoth*<http://tamilnanbargal.com/friends/vinoth>
>

>  nhm.JPG
> 21KViewDownload

[விஜயராகவன்]

On 5 Sep, 04:58, Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/9/4 Hari Krishnan <hari.harikrish...@gmail.com>
>
>
>

> > Kaspersky has acknowledged the fact that it was a false alarm and has
> > regretted it.  It has promised to rectify this in the next update.  Since
> > Kaspersky updates take place everyday, it may happen even tomorrow.  Then,
> > reinstall NHM and be happy!
>
> விடுதலை விடுதலை விடுதலை
>
> பழையருக்கும் இங்கு மெய்லர் ப்லாகருக்கும் விடுதலை
> பதிவருக்கும் எழுத்தருக்கும் பழையபடி விடுதலை!
>
> விடுதலை விடுதலை விடுதலை
>
> காஸ்பர்ஸ்கையின் பயனியர்க்குப் பிடித்திருந்த கலியினுக்கும் விடுதலை
> காணுமிங்கண் என்னெச்செம்மை நம்பிநின்ற கவிஞருக்கும் விடுதலை...
>
> விடுதலை விடுதலை விடுதலை
>
> என்னெச்செம்மை ட்ரோஜன் என்ற காலங்களும் மாய்ந்தவே
> எழுதுதற்குத் தமிழ்கிடைத்து எங்கணுமே பாய்ந்தவே
>
> “தீமையற்ற திறமைமிக்க தொழில்புரிந்து யாவரும்
> சேர்ந்த கல்வி ஞானமெய்தி வாழ்வமிந்த புவியிலே“
>
> பிரச்சினை தீர்ந்து.  பாரதியுடைய ‘நாட்டிலே’ என்பாட்டில் புவியிலே என்று
> மாற்றம் பெற்றிருக்கிறது.

வைரஸ்குதான் உங்களிடமிருந்து விடுதலை, இனிமேல் அதை கொல்லமாட்டீர்கள்

விஜயராகவன்

[Hari Krishnan]

2010/9/8 விஜயராகவன் <vij...@gmail.com>

வைரஸ்குதான் உங்களிடமிருந்து விடுதலை, இனிமேல் அதை கொல்லமாட்டீர்கள்

The best way of killing an enemy is making him a friend and the best way of removing virus is not allowing it enter the hard disk.  That way, yes, I am not going to kill a virus, my dear friend!  ))

[வினோத்-VINOTH]

வணக்கம் ஐயா

அவிரா இணையம் மூலம் நானும் வைரஸ் இருக்கிறதா எனப்பார்த்தேன். 

NHM தளத்தில் இருந்து புதிதாக தரையிரக்கம் செய்யததை வைரஸ் இல்லை எனச்சொல்லிவிட்டது. 

ஆனால்

ஏற்கெனவே தரையிரக்கி வத்திருந்ததை (same version) மால்வேர் என உறுதி செய்துள்ளது. 

அவிரா அதை ஏற்கெனவே quarantine ல் பெயர் மாற்றி வைத்திருந்தததால் அதை மீண்டும் அவிரா தளத்தில் சோதித்த போது வைரஸை உறதி செய்துள்ளது. 

அதாவது முன்பு தளத்தில் இருந்த கோப்பி்ல் வைரஸ் இருந்துள்ளது. தற்போது அது நீக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. 

அவிராவின் report மடலை கீழே கொடுத்துள்ளேன்.

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Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your email to Avira's virus lab.
Tracking number: INC00596028.

We received the following archive files:

File ID	Filename	Size (Byte)	Result
25878225	4e08cfa5.qua	889.83 KB	OK

A listing of files contained inside archives alongside their results can be found below:

File ID	Filename	Size (Byte)	Result
25878226	4e08cfa5.vir	889.54 KB	MALWARE

Please find a detailed report concerning each individual sample below:

Filename

Result

4e08cfa5.vir

MALWARE

The file '4e08cfa5.vir' has been determined to be 'MALWARE'.Our analysts named the threat DR/Spy.Delf.ker. The term "DR/" denotes a program that is able to place a virus or a malware discretely on a system.Detection is added to our virus definition file (VDF) starting with version 7.10.11.81. 

Alternatively you can see the analysis result here:
http://analysis.avira.com/samples/details.php?uniqueid=UqrK1qXvBKwDTWUVyk8Y002sC6pw664M&incidentid=596028

An overview of all your submissions can be found here:
http://analysis.avira.com/samples/details.php?uniqueid=UqrK1qXvBKwDTWUVyk8Y002sC6pw664M

Please note: If you have specific questions please address them to sup...@avira.com

Kind regards
Avira Virus Lab

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NHM ஐ பயன்படுத்த விரும்புவோர்கள் தயவு செய்து அதை புதிதாக அதன் தளத்தில் இருந்து எடுத்து பயன் படுத்த வேண்டுகிறேன். 

அல்லது கூகிள், மைக்ரோசாப்ட் கொடுக்கும் இதே வகையான தட்டச்சியை மென்பொருளை பயன்படுத்த வேண்டுகிறேன் 

2010/9/8 nags <mrn...@gmail.com>

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http://tamilnanbargal.com/friends/vinoth

[geeyes]

NHM ஐ பயன்படுத்த விரும்புவோர்கள் தயவு செய்து அதை புதிதாக அதன் தளத்தில்
இருந்து எடுத்து பயன் படுத்த வேண்டுகிறேன்.

-என்று தெளிந்து அறிவித்த திரு.வினோத்துக்கு நன்றி.

[Poovi Poovilangothai]

can you give me link to download NHM writer. The ones I downloaded aren't working.

[Poovi Poovilangothai]

can you give me the link to download NHM writer. The ones I downloaded aren't working.

On Wednesday, September 15, 2010 at 10:45:36 PM UTC+5:30, ஜி.ஸன்தானம் wrote:

[Dr.Chandra Bose]

Go to this url and download the exe file and then install it in your computer. 

http://software.nhm.in/products/writer

You can also try Kural Tamil Cheyali from www.kuralsoft.com. 

If you need to use other languages besides Tamil, NHM Writer is the choice.

Dr P Chandra Bose

Camp at Atlanta, GA, USA.

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