installing minix 3.1.8 problem -reg.

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krishna chaitanya

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Nov 5, 2010, 1:12:22 AM11/5/10
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I am presenting the errors in detail ..... (text within braces is just
explanation and rest all is the actual error)
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Welcome MINIX3 boot monitor

1 Regular minix

Loading Minix 3.1.8 image
Looking for boot CD. This may take a minute.
Please ignore any error messages.

(some details about minix version, open source, vrije univ. stuff and
so)

Initiating legacy i8253 timer
CPU 0 freq 2194 MHz.
APIC disabled using legacy PIC

AT0-D2 : controller not ready
AT0-D2 : controller not ready
AT0-D2 : reset failed driver busy
open '/dev/c0d2' failed: operation not permitted

AT0-D3 : controller not ready
AT0-D3 : controller not ready
AT0-D3 : reset failed driver busy
open '/dev/c0d3' failed: operation not permitted

AT0-D1 : controller not ready
AT0-D1 : controller not ready
AT0-D1 : reset failed driver busy
open '/dev/c0d1' failed: operation not permitted

.
(some errors of this sort came in between like checking all
possibilites)
.
.
open '/dev/c0d0' failed: operation not permitted
open '/dev/c0d6' failed: operation not permitted
open '/dev/c0d7' failed: operation not permitted
open '/dev/c0d5' failed: operation not permitted
.
.
.
(after some 2 minutes ended showing)
.

Not found
No CD found

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This is actual error i am getting.

awaiting reply,
Chaitanya.

Tomas Hruby

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Nov 5, 2010, 6:12:37 AM11/5/10
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Well, reposting it as a new thread won't help you much as it seems
like everybody is kind of clueless.

What are _all_ the options for the disk controllers in your BIOS? I
bet that it is your BIOS settings that causes you the troubles. We are
runnign Minix on a large range of fairly peculliar HW without much
problems, the BIOS setting is important though. For instance on one of
my machine I have 'Legacy IDE' as well as 'Native IDE'. They are
different, however, I can make Minix work with both. Have you tried
the AHCI option which (iirc) Antoine suggested earlier?

T.

Antoine LECA

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Nov 5, 2010, 7:06:03 AM11/5/10
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Tomas Hruby wrote:
> For instance on one of my machine I have 'Legacy IDE' as well
> as 'Native IDE'. They are different, however, I can make Minix
> work with both.

For your information: I did some research on this one, and while it
won't solve Chaitanya's problem, it may increase the general knowledge!

Native IDE uses the PCI registers as auto-configured and matches the
general PCI interface; so it is the correct interface to use with
current MINIX (I think).

Legacy IDE (also known as compatibility mode, for example inside the
MINIX3 at_wini driver) is more targetted toward OS from last century
(like Win9x, or MINIX 2.0.[0-?]), and restricts itself to using the
"well-defined" I/O ports, ie primary controller at 0x01F0, secondary at
0x0170 etc. exactly like it was with the original IDE specification (ISA
bus).


Provided you have no less than two controllers (up to 4 drives) the end
result is basically the same, as Tomas said. However, there are
differences: in the latter case the pci driver is not useful (so it
could be as solution if the pci driver is unable to work with the given
chipset, or even just brocken or missing); on the other hand, setting
Legacy IDE might disable the features related to PCI autoconfiguration,
like IRQ allocation, or memory-projected ports, although I am not sure
MINIX's at_wini makes use of this latter feature.


Antoine

Antoine LECA

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Nov 5, 2010, 8:03:48 AM11/5/10
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Tomas Hruby wrote:
> Well, reposting it as a new thread won't help you much

Agreed.

> What are _all_ the options for the disk controllers in your BIOS?

Also, what are the options for DMA? and PCI configuration?

Another way to investigate these issues is to set "ata_pci_debug=1" at
the boot monitor, and report the results.
If the problem is with DMA, you can also try "ata_no_dma=1";
the source also mentions "atapi_dma" but I feel it is presently useless.


> I bet that it is your BIOS settings that causes you the troubles.

> Have you tried the AHCI option which (iirc) Antoine suggested earlier?

I believe he did
(<msgid:63a45f47-59be-4dce...@p7g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
http://groups.google.com/group/minix3/msg/f5340e53dcd197cb) although I
am not 100% sure he used the required "ahci=yes" at the same time.
Additionnally setting "ahci_verbose=1" might be useful to understand
what is failing, too.


Antoine

krishna chaitanya

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Nov 6, 2010, 1:28:15 AM11/6/10
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@Antoine, @Tomas

> > What are _all_ the options for the disk controllers in your BIOS?
> Also, what are the options for DMA? and PCI configuration?

SATA operating modes in BIOS - AHCI, ATA , Legacy
regarding PCI configuration options - jus there are ON and OFF
options, and ON is selected in it.
and for DMA i didnot find any options in the BIOS

Plz clarify if i have given correct info.(Do i need to search for PCI
and DMA configuration elsewhere?)

> I believe he did
> (<msgid:63a45f47-59be-4dce-aab0-7e26812c7...@p7g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,http://groups.google.com/group/minix3/msg/f5340e53dcd197cb) although I
> am not 100% sure he used the required "ahci=yes" at the same time.
> Additionnally setting "ahci_verbose=1" might be useful to understand
> what is failing, too.

I did not boot minix in AHCI mode. Can i boot it in this mode.
What actually is the difference in these modes. Please suggest a
resource where i can get good deal of information.

Chaitanya.


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krishna chaitanya

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Nov 6, 2010, 8:39:18 AM11/6/10
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i wanted to wait for ur reply but was eager enough to give a try ....

I booted minix in AHCI mode. At the cd prompt(cd>) i gave some option
u mentioned above.
The options which i gave at cd prompt are:
ahci=yes
ata_pci_debug=1
ata_no_dma=1
ahci_verbose=1

even now error is coming but it fairly small, so here's I present it..
-------------------------------------------------------
Looking for boot CD.This may take a minute.
Please ignore error messages.

open '/dev/c0d1' failed: I/O error
Trying /dev/c1d4
Not found.
No CD found.
--------------------------------------------------------

I even tried by setting atapi_dma=1 (which u mentioned as not that
important) along with the ones above. Even then error was the same.


Chaitanya.
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Murray

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Nov 6, 2010, 9:13:44 PM11/6/10
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Have you tried booting the machine with any other CD-ROM boot media,
as it sounds like you may have faulty hardware.
The only other thing to do would be to reset the bios settings and try
booting again.

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krishna chaitanya

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Nov 7, 2010, 12:15:32 AM11/7/10
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On Nov 7, 6:13 am, Murray <muzzd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Have you tried booting the machine with any other CD-ROM boot media,
> as it sounds like you may have faulty hardware.
> The only other thing to do would be to reset the bios settings and try
> booting again.

if its a problem with the hardware no bootable CD should work, but
others are
working properly.



Murray

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Nov 7, 2010, 1:46:27 AM11/7/10
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What about reseting the bios to the default settings?

And are the drives set to LEGACEY MODES IN THE BIOS?

What "Other" bootable media have you tried?

Have you tried minix on a virtual machine within ubuntu (vurtual box,
pcemu)?

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krishna chaitanya

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Nov 7, 2010, 1:48:22 AM11/7/10
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On Nov 7, 10:46 am, Murray <muzzd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> What about reseting the bios to the default settings?

how to reset bios to default settings..

> And are the drives set to LEGACEY MODES IN THE BIOS?

i tried even by setting the drives in legacy mode ..but same error is
coming.

> What "Other" bootable media have you tried?

I installed ubuntu 10.04 without changing any BIOS options.

> Have you tried minix on a virtual machine within ubuntu  (vurtual box,
> pcemu)?

i tried even that way but its giving an error.

Can this be a CD problem. Its basically a bit older CD RW.

Murray

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Nov 7, 2010, 3:28:26 AM11/7/10
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Final conclusion is that your hardware is not compatible with minix.
Your best bet is to use minix in a virtual machine.

http://wiki.minix3.org/en/UsersGuide/RunningMinixOnQemu



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krishna chaitanya

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Nov 7, 2010, 11:21:57 PM11/7/10
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@Murray

Yes now its running on top of KVM.
Regarding installing it on the hard disk is there any other option?
Definetly running on virtual machine my purpose will be served but
wont be much interactive(i feel).

Chaitanya.

Murray

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Nov 7, 2010, 11:42:00 PM11/7/10
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Define interactive.

My impression is that most of the development is done in a virtual
machine.
I can run minix3 in unbuntu 10.04 in a vmware machine in windows seven
on standard hardware (single core) w/o x11 running.

While it would be nice to run minux on "real" hardware virtual is just
as good, try getting your hands on some older hardware to install
minix3 on
if you are keen.


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