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Aili Peal
I want to explore the contents of the folder from the menu. look at the recent documents item to see what i mean thei picture might help i have added folders with control d
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On the one hand, I would think that, in general, MATE users prefer the old GNOME 2 behavior where you'd click on a folder in the Places menu and the file manager would open up to that folder. That is the old behavior they learned to work with and many users want anything but change. On the other hand, hovering over a Places menu entry would display a submenu which contains a list of other folders and maybe even files in the hovered-over folder.
Ah, I may have answered my own question. I suppose hovering over a Places menu item could display the contents of the folder in a submenu, but clicking on the menu item itself could launch the file manager. (Normally, when one clicks on a menu item with an associated submenu, clicking toggles the display of the submenu, either showing or hiding the submenu.)
I can see however that some of us don't like menus / windows popping up over other things on the screen, so I think like the window thumbnails in the MATE Panel Window List applet, this feature should be an option. Ideally, IMHO, it should be turned off by default -- although if Ubuntu MATE wants to turn it on by default on their own distro, then that's fine and dandy. But I cannot see a core MATE developer setting this as a default, honestly.
I ask this question because it's possible this could actually be coded given the constraints of GTK, the library which all MATE applications use for the user interface components. Am I saying that I would necessarily jump on this immediately? No, since this may be a bit tricky to get right. But I know this could be done, and I know I could do it if I put my mind to it.
I could be wrong, but ISTM he's asking for a tree-capable "Places". Even if limited to depth=1, it would still be a meaningful improvement for some use cases. (e.g. Personal, Financial, etc as folders under Documents; etc).
This, I think, is a weak argument starting from a false premise. If a user clicks something, that "something" has focus (in both meanings) and is absolutely justified in doing whatever makes most sense for it as the response to that click. If that means a cascading tree of menus then that's what it should do. People don't object to popups that are specifically serving the function they explicitly just asked for, only to ones that they DIDN'T ask for that interrupt their flow.
GTG, but - Gordon, I'd suggest that rather than try to tackle a nebulous request, you instead consider what your "ideal" behavior for this case would be, with that in the background. If you're going to change something - especially when there will be numerous valid objections TO such changes (and probably a larger number of less valid objections :P) - you should be aiming for "the best that you can think of", regardless of whether or not it addresses the OP's request.
There is an application called "Windows Classic Shell" which you can install on later versions of Windows to restore the old functionality. The expanding Documents and "Favorite" [= Redmond's term for Internet bookmarks] menus are particularly useful.
But first some background: a few years ago I wrote a big long post criticizing GNOME-style headerbars, and one of my complaints was that adopting them requires the replacement of traditional menu bars with hamburger menus. You know, this little thing:
Configuration is the System Configuration only. What would be the problem to remove all configuration aspects from an application and move it into the System Settings insead. i think Apple is doing something along this line.
This component is good but should not be abused or imposed on some apps, it should be used only when the app has not enough space to show all options to not fall for the same mistake that gnome designer did.
However this highlights exactly why search cannot replace menus: if the menu were gone, search would not be able to reveal the location of the found item, and you would have to use the search every single time you ever wanted to do anything. That would get really old, really fast.
I agree that an actual menu is good to have in addition to incremental search, but the visual effects you describe in macos sound like they would get annoying very quickly for frequently used functions. Why would you want a flashy visual effect in the menu every time you insert some kind of table in your document, for example?
I also notice that those placeholder text and icon items appear to be custom-made by each app, judging by the variations in icon styles, text styling, and text opacity. In KDE we have a standardized component for this: Kirigami.PlaceholderMessage! _1_1kde_1_1kirigami_1_1PlaceholderMessage.html
But hey, what can be done so as not to break the consistency of the global interface? Have a hamburger menu mix and normal menu for larger applications? How to integrate this notion to the non-IT end user?
For me traditional menubars still feel better/easier to use compared to hamburger buttons, despite of the valid problems you listed. Maybe because I got used to menubars during the 90s when I started using computers, and maybe using an ordinary mouse (no touchscreeen) also plays a role.
This kind of menu is perfect for simpler programs with less functions (like most GTK programs), but for KDE, this is not going to be nice at all. Options that were more easily accessible are now hidden between layers of menus and submenus?
Hamburger menus can contain other graphical elements as well, like: buttons, radios, sliders, search fields, etc. and hide them from cluttering the toolbar.
Buttons that have universally known shortcuts, like Ctrl + S to save, can also be hidden behind hamburger menus.
On my system, CTRL+M works just fine for switching between the hamburger menu and the main menu (also when the keyboard is in a non-English layout, something that annoyingly does not work in Firefox, for example).
We are doing our first Crystal Cruise in July, a back-to-back from Vancouver to Seward and will be able to make our reservations for the specialty restaurants soon. So, I am looking at the Waterside Menus people are posting to see if there are any days I especially do not want to miss. My question is are these menus repeated week to week, from cruise to cruise, or do they depend on what part of the world you are cruising. I know on other cruise lines, they sometimes adapt menus to the itinerary so might expect more crab, shrimp, and fish for an Alaskan cruise. No matter what, after hearing past cruisers describe the food, I am sure we are going to enjoy every bite, but I would just like to do a little planning if possible. Thanks for any help you can give me.
Agree with Rob. They have created many menus to avoid repeats. A few years ago I found they were repeating menus on back to back cruises but on the ones we were on last summer they avoided that. While there are items you will see from cruise to cruise the order they appear can easily vary. And as you note, they do bring on some local time such as certain types of fish and sometimes have recipes which reflect where you are sailing.
You can usually see the menu for the next day on line the night before and should you see a menu on a day you were not dining there you could see if your butler can rearrange your specialty restaurant reservation to another evening. You could also see if you can special order items from a menu for the day after by seeing the head waiter or restaurant manage the day before.
You could book your specialty restaurants for port days. In case you miss on that evening something you would like to have at the main restaurant, you can order for you 24 hours in advance for another night.
One thing you need to remember on Crystal is if you want something you don't see ask. The crew wants to say yes and get you what you want. They might not always be able but they want to and will do what they can to get it for you - so ASK
Yes they did on our 7-day "sampler" cruise this past December. We had 2 sea days after sailing Miami and before our first Caribbean port. That first sea day after Miami was offered the usual "formal night" menu in Waterside.
Unfortunately, I did not download the menus from that cruise, so I can't recall if there was a second "farewell"-type Waterside dinner offered during the balance or toward the end of that port intensive 7-day cruise.
And its apt to change even once onboard and published! We just go with the flow and don't worry about things not in our control. Thank you for reaching out directly to Crystal, even though the response was nebulous.
Rob is correct. While in generall those dates have a good chance of happening I would not go to the bank on them. When they do the layout for the cruise on the preceding one which is the time they lay out the major events related to things such as formal, receptions, white night, and other things taking place sometimes things change.
Our next two cruises are each short 7 dayers, so, with three speciality meals to fit in, together with a Thanksgiving menu in November, there is a strong possibility of our missing out on a favourite dish !
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