The Witness

[Rajendra Pal Singh]

Though everything in creation is bound by laws, there is one power that has been given to beings and that is consciousness. I am the Witness in this body.

[allan...@gmail.com]

RP you need to do some expansion there.

Conciousness
noun
• The state of being conscious or aware; awareness.

It is not my job to fill in the blanks.

Empty spaces
Underdeveloped ideas
Explain please
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Allan

do not murder; rape; or enslave others
God is not a myth

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[Rajendra Pal Singh]

Being aware is the best thing that can happen. Think what unconsciousness would be like 

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[allan...@gmail.com]

Just how am I  supposed to answer your Gaga moment of awareness..  creating illusion of reality.
Even my dog  Joey lives in her state of awareness and I see it everyday in her stations and excitement for life.. I sent the definition of concousness as well as questions.
As for concousness I am recall my summer of 72 winters ago when Patches was teaching me how to walk along the ponds edge safely.
So just what are you babbling about or am I having one of those been there done that moments?
Allan

Realities collide
Creation a total world
Spawning life

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[Rajendra Pal Singh]

Just what is your most important essence? It is the power of being aware 

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[allan...@gmail.com]

God!
Without his essence
No existence

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[Rajendra Pal Singh]

Can there be anything like no existence? It would negate God and the whole creation. It is not possible.

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[Rajendra Pal Singh]

No existence  means no God. Are you an athiest, Allan ?

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 3:10 PM <allan...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Rajendra Pal Singh]

There is no death, only transformation . You know matter, energy .

[Rajendra Pal Singh]

There are four states of a being  --- awake state, dream state, sleep state and turiya state. Above this is God state--existence.

[Rajendra Pal Singh]

When nothing remains there is existence, the basis of all that exists.

[allan...@gmail.com]

I don't know
My being is made God essence
I know no other reality

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[allan...@gmail.com]

RP in your comment you hit a BINGO one of those aha moment.
Allan.

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[allan...@gmail.com]

You RP are reading things not said.. how come do I keep having the reoccurring feeling that if it is not seen the same way as you see them they are wrong,

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[allan...@gmail.com]

Now RP you I believe you are getting into Hindi theology of which I have but barely a very thin grasp.
Now I do somewhere electronically have a copy filed some where.. I am not particularly driven or have the burning need to understand Hindi beliefs.

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[allan...@gmail.com]

My ideas reach what I believe to be far beyond energy and matter..
Also it is something I can not really explain.

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[allan...@gmail.com]

Okay
I have added that to my note.

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[allan...@gmail.com]

RP in looking up what you said.. I found " the Yogic Encyclopedia " .. I have to often times look up the hindi concepts and understanding of words.  Many of which are culture bound.. also they and can be very interesting.

The problems begin when people get the idea they hold the only truth.. and everyone should fall inline and lock step (march) to their drummer. Unfortunately RP you tend to present your ideas that way which turns people off.

Now most of my experience (s) are very personal and the truth is anyone that would want to follow my spiritual path would be crazier  than I am.. that is not saying I am wrong, because I am not..  if it is someone else's path they will find it all by themselves without my influence at all.. the best I can do is say look and ask questions.. and the easy answer is not always the right one..
In today's world many people are not wanting a preset set of beliefs complete with dogma and doctrine. I had a young middle eastern boy approach me and sad.. "you are an old man, could you tell me the most important thing I learned in life?" I replied that "God or Allah what ever name you want to call him is real and can not be separated from his creation."
I am surprised just how excited the boy became..  found out later that a lot of Muslim kids were not rejecting Allah but were rejecting the teachings of Islam. (Surprise)
KP spiritual beliefs are a very personal concept and people are not sheople following blindly what is told to them as the ¿truth?.
People are not wanting to get into discussions of theology.. I am a rarity. (I would rather play with clumping words together and see what happens. Haiku?)
RP you have a need to express and have your thoughts challenged , you need to remember most people are not interested.. plus they don't want their beliefs challenged.. life has enough challenges today with covid and climate change...
Lots and lots of problems and beliefs is not one of them.

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[Rajendra Pal Singh]

Allan, your apprehensions are well founded but you have caught the wrong guy. It is not in my nature to have people follow me, blindly or not. I have made my points logically and it has nothing to do with religious dogma but with actual science . Throughout my discourses with you I have given logic for my beliefs but if the other person is biased one way or the other it makes no sense.

I have said from the beginning that I cannot tell others what to believe,but that doesn't deny me the right to present my case. Anyway, it is neither here nor there but I have enjoyed my conversations with you all and wish you the best. May God be with you always.

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[allan...@gmail.com]

Time for
Clumping words
Together

Fearlessly
Thrown out publicly
Exposed

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[Mardi McCabe]

Ah Allan and RP. I've been busy tending to life for awhile and haven't checked in lately.

RP It seems (to me) that  that you may be very emotionally attached to the ideas of the intellect, to logical conclusions, to making cases? (notice how I did not make any declarative sentences there, just a soft query)

Allan, what if I change RP's cryptic declarative sentence to this:

"There is an infinite consciousness running through all things, all time and space, and it is our great fortune and opportunity that we are able to be aware of That in and through all things. I am grateful"

would you find it more informative? You might not agree but I would love to see your poetic response to that!!

I love the way your mind seeks to find the poetry in all things, and they are lovely haiku (one of the most pristine forms of poetry).

I love the fist two lines of your response to RP but the last line seems perhaps a bit too explicit for poetry? What do you think of this (NOT so much of a haiku though)?

Empty spaces
Underdeveloped ideas

let us sit and dream of God's silence

[Allan]

I believe RP has left the group, and what you said is right.. personally I liked RP. I always tried to answer,
😷
What I write is not really haiku..that requires 3 line  5 7 5 silly-ables and in reality both my english and spelling are not good, the spell checker has improved greatly improved over the last 35 years .. about the same time as I started writing my form of poetry which is roughly based off the 3 lines (short, long, short) of haiku..

😷
Consciousness
Infinity running via time/space
Total reality
😷.

I was asked year ago to write out the system or format I used for writing my poetry and if they could have my permission to use it in their classes.
@AllanDeHeretic is my twitter address and it seems to be a great place for me to publish it.
Allan😷
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Allan

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