Install Superior Drummer 3

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Libby Cowen

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Aug 3, 2024, 10:33:46 AM8/3/24

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hi just installed windows 10 had all products on D drive but when I change to 10 the drive changed to E cut long story short i deleted the now E drive and reinstalled everything on D drive but when i look again all my EZX S are on E drive i just cleared out what dose not worry me but when i try install my SDX S i cant find the install directory . when go into SDX installer you have the window installer click on that except the license choose where to install the sound i choose D then selected folder lost tried the SL-Avatar SDX comes up with choose different destination folder the little install page dose not come up its driving me nuts please could you help im not that good on computers and live in a isolated place regards john

Hi, new user here. Same problem for me. Used the Toontrack Product Manager and it did not allow me to chose where to install. Just put everything on C which is now full. How can I change the install directory for EZ drummer and the libraries?

Hello,
I use the Toontrack Product Manager for all my products.
I would like to port all Toontrack products to an external medium.
Do I have to reinstall the software?
How can I export the existing files?

toontrack solo works and it says its the 64 bit version. Superior drummer is installed in program files(x86) does that make any difference? Seems like I had to copy a vst file and put it somewhere way back when but I cant find anything toontrack or superior drummer related i.e. vst files.

Device, plugin manager, go down to the left corner of the screen and hit the settings tab. Now you will see wich mappings cubase use for searching up your plugins. Can you find the correct path to your 64 bit dll there?

It is not hard at all. Programs need info where to find stuff. If you just click and install something and dont pay atention to where you install it. You cant expect the next program to know where to find it.

by default if you install cubase before toontrack. It should store the dll in programs, steinberg, vstplugins, toontrack, so look to see if you have that path in your explorer. If so. Just update the plugin paths in plugin manager. It might just be a glip.

1) What are your motives for using an electronic drumkit live? Before you dive in, ask yourself that question seriously. Even a mid range acoustic drumkit can sound better than the samples on an electronic kit, and it will be much more dynamic because it is the real thing.

3) I'm not familiar with the TD50, but I don't think you can transfer sounds using midi to the TD50. The USB is mainly used for transferring audio FROM the TD50, but not the other way around. Or at least that's what I could make out.

4) Given No. 3, I'd recommend a decent interface to go with the laptop. That will allow you to route the audio from Superior to the FOH. For all your other routing, I would recommend just letting the FOH guy do his work by setting up your personal mix, monitor mixes, etc.

Thanks Nightlight. I weighed it all up a few years ago against an pro Tama kit, and finally decided to go for the TD 30 for all the benefits that e-drums provide. I did some great recordings, and had about 5 kits for live which were great (once tuned in for the PA). Then I upgraded to the TD 50, solely for the snare which is larger and responds more evenly across the head. But I just cannot get the sound that's in my head, I've tried coming at it from a number of directions. The toms are where I'm suffering most, the kick is just about fine, and the rest OK. So in this journey I'm on, I've come to a bit of a desert.

I've ruled out using SD samples in the Roland, I will lose all expression and articulation, hence now looking to trigger SD live from my TD. A 1Tb SSD PC isn't cheap. I would need to have confidence that this will do what I want, not find out down the line that there is some limitation that will frustrate my efforts (again).

Currently for recording, I route the guide track from my DAW to the TD, and that does work fine. In fact, I have two stereo channels available this way. So I think I can do this live, it's a simpler setup and saves space with extra gear. We don't always have FOH engineer, so I would set for live starting in SD. If I win the lottery I will just do it and let you know. In the meantime, any guidance will be much appreciated.

All valid points but i don't agree that MacOS is more stable then Win 10. It's not, not anymore. I work with both systems, there's no difference in speed, reliability nor workflow when equaliy specced machines.

Love both Mac and Windows, but i still can't believe that there are people claming MacOS/Macs to be a more reliable bet to justify Apple's insane pricing. Apple produces exquisit hardware and software, but better it is not...

I've been programming for a living since 89, working on Microsoft operating systems. I chose that path at the time because for every 1 job coding for a Mac, there were 100,000 for a PC. Back then, a PC running DOS was a blunt weapon and a Mac was an elegant instrument . As you say, things have equalized since then.

Today, they both do the same things (and crash with the same frequency). The differences are more about your computer's specs, the version of OS you're running and the wisdom of your choices in installing software of dubious integrity, not the brand of your computer / OS. However, Apple still retains their prestige from the old days, and they do a lot of ego based marketing ("You're elite if you use Apple") to compensate for the fact that Windows owns the mass market. Nonsense, of course, but effective nonetheless.

The one place I found a difference between Apple and competitors was polish. While it's less of a factor on a desktop, when I first started using smart phones I went Android because I'm a programmer and a locked down system offended me. Eventually I realized I didn't want to code for mobile devices. Once I was just a user, I started buying Apple phones / pads because if people are only going to support one mobile OS with their app, it'll be Apple. Again, Android did the same stuff iOS does. However, the Apple stuff felt much more polished. In comparison, Android felt like software written by amateurs. As with matters of functionality, polish has largely equalized between mobile platforms these days.

Old perceptions die hard, however. In the music world, Pro Tools is the "industry standard" because once upon a time, it was the only high quality choice available to pro recording studios. You had to have their dedicated DSP hardware because computers of the day (gasp - even Macs!) didn't have the horsepower to run native. They were the only game in town for pros but eventually other DAWs got into the act. Then computers became robust enough that you really didn't need the offloaded DSP hardware.

These days professionals of every stripe use Logic, Cubase, Sonar / Cakewalk, Reaper and many others. They all do the same thing. They all crash about as often. And yet, Pro Tools still has the reputation of being "for professionals" and everything else carries the comparative stigma of being "for hobbyists." Nonsense, of course, but old perceptions die hard. And people are just as gullible as they've ever been, which is how marketing guys pay their rent.

Let's say you want a fat bodied kickdrum sound. While your sound might be fine for a small venue, it might be terrible in a large roomy venue where the subs and the actual room provide plenty of "body" anyway. In this scenario the FoH engineer would have to gate your kick considerably to control it. But he can't do that in a simple stereo mix.

I'd forget about using the TD module as a routing hub and go with an interface instead. It doesn't have to be of great quality for this purpose, so you should be able to find something that's very-cheap that'll do the job.

Core Audio is indeed a very stable audio platform but has lang been equalled by the ASIO standard which offers low and stable latency. I've been using an external audio interface (t.c. electronic Konnekt 24D) since 2010. I used it both on my Mac and PC. There never has been any difference between the two platforms. I must agree that the standard Windows audio driver is utter bollocks, but one shouldn't compare 'Apples' to oranges.

In my recent metal band project "DVIL" we use edrums in all studio, rehearsal and live situations. I have been struggling with the same question whether to use a DAW with audio interface live or not. We ended up using a 2BOX drummit five module, which is the only module available that allows you to import and use your own multisamples. Using the SDSE software to transfer nearly every bigger VSTi on the market like SD2, SD3 with all expansions, AD, BFD, SSD4 and other kontakt libraries this was quite a bit of work but i have to say it is a great sounding and stable setup for live use without having a DAW onstage. Sure, since all samples are mixed down to stereo you cannot change the miking mix afterwards but this is not really a problem. Using exactly the same sounds live as in the studio without all the problems that come with acoustic drums just feels like you are beginning playing music for the second time. We have the kicks, snares, toms and cymbals routed in stereo groups out of the 8 outputs of the 2Box module into a X32 mixer which feeds our IEM mixes. Using Kempers this silent stage approach allows for a perfect sounding mix even in the smallest spaces. Btw, the kit we use is made by Jobeky in UK.

I would say that a full Jobeky kit with metal cymbals and a 2BOX Module will probabaly not even cost half the price of a TD-50, but it sounds, plays and looks better than the roland stuff. Drum-Tec from Germany builds similar real looking edrums at an even higher quality but they are way more expensive. The new darker Jobeky cymbals look fantastic btw.