Siemens Nx View Break

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Badomero Schoulund

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Aug 3, 2024, 3:52:14 PM8/3/24
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Example. Bent piece of pipe that I wanted to put on a B size drawing and in full scale. Can't use the Break tool on the bent section and keep the break aligned how I want it due to limitation of only Vertical or Horizontal Break orientation....

I can't do that due of a dimension from the bottom of the theoretical floor to the top edge of the angled pipe. It is a reference dimension they use out in the shop floor to easily check the angle of the pipe. If I lay my angled section 'flat on the ground' then that dimension is not possible to measure on the drawing. Also there are times where the geometry is more complex than a pipe and simply rotating the view is not an option.

Instead of creating yet another Inventor work around, which takes more time for setting up views and in this case wouldn't work, why not allow for more flexibility? Why do I have to be limited to horizontal and vertical? Why can't I have the ability to quickly create views without jumping through hoops? I think those are better questions to ask.

Don't get me wrong if needed put it in but just trying to understand why? When my mind says what you are doing by putting a floor to top of pipe dim in a detail drawing is not a standard. And if Autodesk has to put an option in for everyone's none-standard ways they are going to be busy..

Yes when a change is made to the part the shop floor gets a new drawing (actually we use Vault and they see the DWF on the shop floor via Thinweb client). This drawing has nothing to do with a weldment at this stage. They use this perticular dimension to ensure the pipe has the correct angle on it when in the check fixture.

Ever heard of Siemens NX (Unigraphics)? Yea, you can do much more with their Break than you could dream of in Inventor. Does that mean Inventor shouldn't compete against other CAD packages that currently do offer such features? With NX you can select the vector(s) to define exactly where and how you want your Break to look.

Does it mean Inventor should not compete? Well let us look at it this way. Inventor is built to have Drafting Standards where Siemens don't care about standards this is why it is very hard to set it up and everyone doing the same. I kind of like every drawing to look the same not this guys way or that guys way...

I'm not saying Inventor has to follow exactly what Siemens does. It doesn't need to be a zillion other clicks (lord knows we do that enough in Inventor already). My point was that it DOES exist out there, which you tried to imply otherwise. Clearly there is a use for such times when needed, or people would not be voting for this idea.

PS, before you go calling someone out thinking they don't know Inventor, you might want to proof over your own posts. You can't even use the simple spell checker tools on a forum. Thankfully I have honed my skills at reading internet jibberish, so your post was easy to translate. Oh and I'd gladly take you up on a Pepsi Challenge....

Guys, If the break lines stayed vertical (conventional) but Inventor allowed you to line up the view the way Kwil wants it to, would that satisfy both concerns? I can respect Jletch's concern to stick with standards and I can see how if you aligned a break in an assembly this way it would not be right, but for a single part /pipe it does seem logical. Just trying to find some common ground.

Thanks for your input. Take a look at the below example images. The break appears misaligned in these cases and not very attractive to look at. An aligned break in these types of cases would solve this issue. No matter which way you rotate the view in this case, you would still end up with a misaligned break view.

I Also I do not see how they would handle the dimension for that improper break. Because that way would not hold a true representation of the part. I am sure they could figure it out with a few bugs.....

Centerlines indicate symmetry axes. They indicate the center of symmetrical components, but also the center of holes and hole axes.
Or indicate with a partial circle that several holes are distributed on a circle.
Or use a connected center line to indicate that several holes lie on a common line.
Or show the bend radius of tubes, etc.

Create the first drawing and change size, scale, projection method, unit of the sheet according to your wishes. Up to 6 processes run automatically when creating a drawing. Learn what they are and where they are set temporarily or permanently.

Now we will finally create, align, orient, change, edit, save etc. base views and projected views. Of course, we will not be satisfied with the standard orientations and will create alternative orientations.You will learn how to create projected views with a hinge line, make the position indipendent, rotate the view, show the name of the view, hide the frames of the view, and work with the view creation wizard.

Long parts are often displayed shortened. Despite shortened display, all dimensions remain correct. Any number of break lines can be created. Isometric views can also be shortened or partially displayed. With the lock method "Snapshot" or "Complete" views can be frozen or locked to document old states of a part. As always, there is much to discover "by the way".

What controls the line widths in a drawing? The body in 3D? The customer defaults? The model template? The Drawing Template? In fact, all four locations are possible and it is worth getting to the bottom of the issue and familiarising yourself with the various setting options of NX. And we will see that there is also a very simple solution.

This course starts with the creation of sectional views. The various options are explained in the following courses. The detail view can be used to enlarge small details of a view. The video shows how to create and change the view and explains the settings. As usual, with additional tips.

Section views allow you to take a look inside complex parts or assemblies and thus draw attention to functions and geometries. Stepped section views can be created and changed quickly and the section line can even be defined using a sketch. For round parts or assemblies, the section line is defined using angle segments (revolved section view).

Sketches can emphasise areas in views, for example where the material number is to be stamped or special requirements apply.
They can be created in absolute position on the sheet or are an integral part of a view. Only one sketch can be created per view. In the "active" sketch, however, you can use New Sketch Group to provide more clarity.

Using a sketch as a boundary, you can cut a section of a view.
You define an endoscope, so to speak, which you push into your part or assembly to emphasise important details.
The three examples (in a part, in an assembly, in an isometrically aligned assembly) show you typical working methods, but also typical problems and their solutions.

Centerlines indicate symmetry axes. They indicate the center of symmetrical components, but also the center of holes and hole axes. Or indicate with a partial circle that several holes are distributed on a circle. Or use a connected center line to indicate that several holes lie on a common line.
Or show the bend radius of tubes, etc.

Learn how to make dimensions with tolerances, fitting tolerances, additional texts, chain dimension, baseline dimension, hole and thread callout... Save time with automatic created intersection symbol, automatic created auxiliary lines in angular dimensions, breaks for crossing dimensions.

Learn how to create Geometric dimensioning and tolerancing with the Feature Control Frame. And how to create Theoretical Dimensions, define Datum References, add additional information texts,
display measurement directions, define multi-line symbols and divide references into reference points.
The meaning of each symbol is also explained, step by step as always.

In this expert course you will learn how to dimension the part in isometric orientation, to overwrite the dimensions with variables, which then define the variants in a spreadsheet. And finally how to improve the display of the edges, display the part shaded and export a perfect image, and as usual with lots of tips and tricks.

Show or hide components in assembly drawings or display them variably. Create sectional views and define parts that are not sectional components. Create decorative views for webshops and show components and sub-assemblies in different positions with arrangements.

Learn how to fill in parts lists, but also how to filter them. Or create customised lists. Select additional information, such as supplier, material or parameters of the parts, for example the sheet thickness.
Sort the content and create fixed position numbers. Define different delivery scopes, for example with or without spare parts. Find out how these notes can be used to display any combination of parts list information.
>>> And how to save your customised parts list as a template to create your perfect parts list later with 3 clicks.
And finally, how to export the parts list.

Automatically or manually create explosion views and display them in the drawing. Once the assembly has been completed, the scope of delivery and assembly must be documented with the help of an exploded drawing.

Although creating a 3D breakout section view can take a few extra steps, it can be a very effective way to display a part. This blog will guide you through the process on NX1899, but the tool is extremely similar across other versions as well.

In the expanded view, the 2-dimensional shape that will be used as a guide to break into the parts needed to be sketched. The sketch will default to the XY plane, so adjusting the WCS (work coordinate system) prior to sketching is recommended. Double click the WCS to edit. Move the origin by dragging the center sphere and use the handles to snap the X, Y, and Z arms into position.

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