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Tim Folkers

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Oct 8, 2010, 7:38:24 AM10/8/10
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I am the veteran who has Fargo living with me as my emotional support
dog, service dog, and a good friend. I have a story to relay. I have
many more that I have journaled that I will share when I have more
time. Well, Fargo was getting his raw chicken which he eats every
other day while tied on the patio of our condo. There is a metal
grill on this concrete patio. His line got wrapped around the grill
and when he got up to move, he knocked it over. It was very loud and
scared him, and me very much. Later that night, I asked Fargo to join
me. He would, but I could tell he was nervous and scared still. He
would not eat a bone marrow bone, and wanted back inside. I had just
figured out what had happened, he had been a little traumatized. I
tried to call Pat, because I was worried about my friend and did not
want him to be scared. I brought him inside initially, probably the
wrong thing to do. Then I realized, I have fears and I work through
them with the support of people. I needed to do the same so I
developed a plan. We were going back out there, chicken leg and all
and do it again, tied. I would be with him there the whole time, as
he displayed anxiety, which if you know Fargo he doesn't do. I had
him sit and down with the chicken. He ignored it, ears back. I sat
next to him, and told him it was ok, easy, which helped me to, I knew
I was helping him. Within a few minutes, his tail was back to
wagging, his ears up and he would eat. I asked my psychologist about
my technique of desensitization, he said absolutely. (no not crazy
rat man Pat, VA doc) Fargo is over it but I will still be very
supportive when he is out there, bc like me, I cannot avoid situations
all the time, the same for Fargo. He was a trooper and now wears a
Sergeant Insignia on his vest, he earned it. Im so proud of him
overcoming this sound and the fear associated with wear the grill is.
He pays no attention now, he is truly a TROOPER.

Night 1 of being with me:
I just wanted to let you know Fargo had a wonderful ride home. Had a
nice potty when we got home. He never seemed nervous but checked out
the house pretty thouroughy to get comfortable. He keeps tabs on us
now, just makes sure be knows where cara and I are. He then took a
nap by cara, and I think they are fond of eachother. Just getting him
comfortable now. He went right in his crate. So just wanted to let you
know! Tomorrow Abbie will be back from grandmas but so far, he has
been very respectful and seems as comfortable as one can be in a new
home in the cityish for the first night. Thank you Pat
Tim

Tim Folkers

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Oct 8, 2010, 7:40:28 AM10/8/10
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Day 2

Today went great, ate a RAW drumstick, finally pooped twice, long walk
and run. And landlord said he didn't know about pet deposits with
service dogs and just stop by and waived all of that. Plus Fargo had
an outing to the grocery store with excellent behavior. And about 30
compliments mainly on wow, he is so well behaved!! To the oh he is so
cute. Two great days, and a trip to the VA tomm. He is very loving to
both cara and abbie too. Thank you, two less stressful days in my life
and I even had an exam today

Day 4 or so

I wanted to let you know Fargo is doing very very well. Today is an
exciting day for us, one where he can relax as much as he can. Abbie,
myself and fargo are going on an alzheimers walk at mount mary's
college. Both of my professors will be there and it will be a good
time for them to meet him. It is going to be a glorious day, bc i am
finally getting to the point, i know Fargo will do what I tell him.
And usually dont even have to. OFF, C'mon, leave it, easy, potty,
sit, down, stay are working just grand for me so far, but he has a
knack for letting me know things before they happen. eery, but what a
dog can do is amazing!!!!!! just wanted to let you know, he seems
very comfortable, loves to walk/jog......lets just say none of us can
keep up with his run bc he is FAST!!! at this moment as I type, he is
laying next to me, watching for things but basically relaxing. He
will follow me cara and abbie to see what we are doing and then go
back and settle down......he has no hyperactivity but he sure love
those drumsticks, and they make him really regular in his
poo.......abbie was sad yesterday when fargo went to the VA to work
with daddy. He makes other veterans interested and social to him and
me, and they think he is the coolest, and my psychologist said that I
am the first case that he has seen with a Psychatric emotional support
dog. When Fargo let me know what was going outside a closed door, he
was convinced. he is very open to things that help veterans, plain
and simple......have a great day pat, we will!!

Tim Folkers

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Oct 8, 2010, 7:45:26 AM10/8/10
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Fargo Continued

HUGE DAY, Saturday

Abbie, Fargo and I spent all morning buying Halloween decorations, per
abbies request, and grocery shopping, then the milwaukee alzheimers
walk. The longest he has had to work. I only had to give him one
command twice is all. A lot of unruly dogs there he just ignored. I
had a young lady come to me and say why would that person bring their
dog? Your is so great. Also my professors got to meet him and were
amazed. People ask me, he is professionally trained ? I say yes, and
a lot of love from veterans and foster kids. I also talked to the
mental illness association in the grocery store, and I volunteered
that he was an emotional support/psychiatric dog and they took my
number and want to talk to me about him and this amazing program that
I went through. So now, Fargo is enjoying a bone from the butcher and
likes the marrow:). A little reward for a good boy. I'm trying to get
to the vet program with Fargo this week!!

He is doing so well as I type this early in the morning, he is lying
next to me right now, friday oct 8 bc he knows i am stressed as today
is midterm today, his head is in my lap. he is just supporting me, i
think he trusts me. Oh and yesterday at the VA a desert storm vet
snuck up behind me to see fargo while I was waiting for my car from
valet. Fargo was already watching my back. Fargro rubbed up against
me to let me know this guy was coming for me, i turned around and the
guy was walking towards me but still a safe distance. I then said hi,
bc i was not caught off guard, and he asked if he could pet Fargo, I
was at ease because Fargo REALLY did have my back. He was not
aggressive, barking, yet relaxed rubbed my leg as he watched the guy
and notified me....AMAZING!!

Rubyanna Skrede

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Oct 8, 2010, 8:52:40 AM10/8/10
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Boy o boy Tim....I am so proud as I read this.  I didn't even have anything to do with Fargo being raised and still I am so proud of the way you and he are continuing on with all Fargo has learned and maturing Fargo's capabilities. 
 
As I read this I get a lump in my throat and water in the corner of my eyes. 
 
Pat does update us on how good you are doing together, but to hear your point of view is so amazing.  Thankyou for writing to us all.  Do continue.  Oh and give Fargo a hug for all of us.  You guys are already a great team.  Congrats.

Quansa's Nanny **************************************** Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, Airedale in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride!


 

LH

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Oct 8, 2010, 10:30:55 AM10/8/10
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Hi Tim,

Thank you so much for sharing your life and experiences with Fargo.
What a team. I was impressed
that you already see that, sometimes, it works both ways (i.e. the
grill incident).

I look forward to more posts from you.

Lisa

Pat Muller

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Oct 8, 2010, 10:49:52 AM10/8/10
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Hi Tim and everyone

Tim, I am so proud of both you and the boy. The terriers really did
do a great job of imprinting and conditioning and I guess Fargo was
paying attention. Everyone who has ever worked with Fargo had a hand
in his training and he has no unresolved fears. It has been some
time, but that just means Fargo has matured. Then he was carefully
matched with the best guy for the job and the end results are very
good. We cannot be amazed, we simply followed the original plan and
never lost sight of the established goals.

Tim, thank you for keeping Fargo on track. I told you that I knew you
would do what had to be done. Your handling of Fargo most certainly
proves that I was right.

I am so glad you joined and to finally get to read the updates on
Fargo, they never did come through on my email. After you and Fargo
were here the other day, after Mark and Kate's visit last week, after
seeing Sue and Kylee and after Wed. night with Bruce and Skippy, I
KNOW Manners In Minutes is making a difference in this world. BTW:
Tim, Jim & Ty came out last night to watch the class and we made plans
to work with their Sheba. I will work with Ty and after that, they
will be bringing her with them to Wed. class.

Fargo, Skippy and Kylee came to me loaded with baggage. Each has gone
through SO much to get to this point, it always brings tears to my
eyes because I KNOW exactly how much. I have struggled to educate
anyone that would listen about keeping a proper balance and a trusting
relationship with their dogs. I have seen multiple, wonderful
successes and accomplishments over the years and make no mistake there
is no one that loves their job more than me.

BUT- there was always something lacking and I knew there was more. I
just did not know what it was. I got a taste of my "purpose" when I
was working with the foster kids but there was always an under-lying
frustration, even with that.

It was actually not until that one day when Karen M. called me and
asked if I might be able to train a couple of service dogs for a group
of veterans, that I got acquainted with a group of people who see the
service side of dogs the same way I do. On that day, I finally
discovered my true purpose.

I would like to take this time to thank the board & members of Circle
of Change and all the others who have been so patient, challenging,
understanding and forgiving of me and have supported this wonderful &
life changing program. I know I have not been willing to lose one bit
of focus or take any "alternate routes" and I know that focus has not
always been understood.

I would like to publically say that I am sorry to any and all of you
for my words, determination or actions that have caused you hurt or
pain. Please believe me, that it was only because of my vision,
determination and love of this program.

...and I would like to thank Tim and all the other wonderful veterans;
not only for their service to their country, but also for helping me
prove that what I have been teaching and practicing all these years,
is true. Because of confidentiality, I have not been free to share
many of the best moments. Now that Tim is a member, and because he is
willing to post; you will finally be able to share in the COC
veterans' program.

I am thrilled that two of the most important pieces of my life have
finally ended up at the same party. The women's group meets this
morning so I have to go for now.

All I can say is, "Thank you Tim, you can bet this was THE most
perfect way to start my day!"

Now like me, you can all walk around knowing that the "little" dog
program you are involved in really is making a difference...and you
can smile.

Later

Pat

Ken Korn

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Oct 8, 2010, 12:47:45 PM10/8/10
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Tim, thanks so much for sharing with us. What you and Fargo are
accomplishing is truly amazing. The COC Veteran's Program does work
and deserves all of our support. And Pat, you can and should be so
proud of what you do.

Ken

Kathy N

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Oct 8, 2010, 12:48:26 PM10/8/10
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Tim, thanks for the update. Mike and I met you at one of the Thursday
night classes when you worked Glory. I am truly glad that you have
Fargo and all is working out as it should. As Ruby stated, Pat has
kept us updated on your progress and we are all truly so happy for
you, your family and Fargo. It truly is amazing how much therapy and
support an appropriate pet can and does provide. Reading about your
experiences with Fargo and how you are working and helping each other
out is such an eye opener to the possibilities of the relationships
that we can have with our dogs when they are developed appropriately.
In many ways, my Bailey (Lakeland) is an emotional support and therapy
dog for me--something I truly need/appeciate each and every day.

Tim, please continue to share your progress with us--it warms the
heart and definitely brings a smile to our faces to think of all you
have and will continue to accomplish--this is such wonderful news.
You truly are reaping the benefits of a well-trained dog through
Circle of Change and all the efforts you have put forth in gaining
experience/training yourself. Thank you for sharing.

Kathy N (Bailey and Ivy)

Janis Moore

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Oct 8, 2010, 5:05:15 PM10/8/10
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Tim, thank you for sharing your story with Fargo.

Having Cassidy gives me such support and reading about Fargo gave me
goose bumps.

I am so grateful for the program and the opportunity to have Cassidy.

Thank you Pat and to all of you there supporting Circle of Change. It
is a life changing opportunity for all of us.

Janis

Sara Peterka

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Oct 8, 2010, 8:40:39 PM10/8/10
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Hi Tim,

I don't have much time to write, but wanted to say I read your thread and am very impressed. Thank-you so much for sharing.

Sara

shel

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Oct 8, 2010, 11:42:03 PM10/8/10
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Tim,

Thank you for sharing such a wonderfully detailed post about your
experiences with Fargo in your home and daily life. It really helps a
lot of us that live far away understand how Pat's with the Veterans is
appreciated and applied. She has been so enthusiastic and dedicated
about this program. She really respects the Veterans that have
come to work at Quansa.

Fargo sounds like a boy you can be proud of, depend on, and grow
with. What an excellent journey that lies ahead for you both and all
those you encounter.

Thank you for being open and please continue to share your adventures
on the forum. There are those of us here who post often and we do so
because we all can learn from our shared experiences.

-shel

Tim Folkers

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Oct 9, 2010, 8:18:28 AM10/9/10
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Thanks for all the supportive comments! And Pat you touch so many
people, not just with your dogs but you as a person. Two little
updates on Fargo. Two days ago at the VA in Milwaukee, Fargo and I
jumped in the elevator. BTW the first time a couple of weeks ago he
wasn't so sure about it but now does not think twice about it. A
vietnam veteran says" i like your dog," I say thank, he said "can i
please pet him?" I said sure, and a smile came to his face. He then
told me "That petting that ARMY dog, (Fargo wears my patches on his
vest) made his week!" I about cried bc Fargo helped somebody else
have a better day at least, and if it truly is a better week for that
veteran...AWESOME. Then as some may or may not know, I back in school
to become a mental health counselor for veterans. I was very stressed
because Friday was finals. Fargo's head was in my lap, and my mother
in law said even when he was not comforting me, his eye was on me. He
made it easier and i think i did well on the exams which no doubt
Fargo played a role in!! I will continue to keep posted......I have
more stories but my 5 year old calls! Oh and Pat, Jim called and told
me he was coming today to work with the Shiba and Tya.....he is very
excited, and we talk on the phone more now than we did in the past, we
talk dogs ALOT!!!! HA you have fun and enjoy the beautiful day at the
fundraiser and with that great family!!

Cara Folkers

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Oct 11, 2010, 12:05:53 AM10/11/10
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I wanted to hop on and give my own insight and update on Fargo and how
he is adjusting to life with us and how much we are all benefiting
from Fargo. Pat, you are a lifesaver and a saint and thank you for
doing what you do. I feel that i finally am getting my husband back.
The CoC program is simply amazing and im here to say first hand that
it saved my husband. He found comfort and peace at Pat's while
working with those animals. when Pat suggested that we take Fargo for
awhile until a permanent serve dog became available, we were
excited.

Fargo has helped him so much that I don't even know where to begin.
He has given Tim the confidence to go into public and be more social.
Fargo goes almost everywhere with Tim and he knows that no matter
where he goes, that dog has got his back. I was blown away a few weeks
ago when i was out of town for the day and Tim told me he was going to
an awareness walk in downtown Milwaukee. Just a few months ago there
is no way he would have even considered that. It's really amazing.

Of course, Abbie and I love him too. Abbie, our five year old, walks
him and plays with him by throwing a toy down the hallway and having
him fetch it. She's also become really good with the commands Leave
it when he gets a little too close to her barbie dolls! They're
becoming really good buddies. As for me....I love him to pieces.
True, im not a fan of the shedding since it bothers a and t's
allergies but really that's the only even slightly negative comment
and even that is workable. He is so mellow and loving. Right now he
is curled up next to me on the couch with his head on my lap while I
type this and every now and then when a loud noise occurs (from
adjoining apartments) he will lift his head get up and do a walk by of
the place and then when we tell him its ok he comes back and plops
back next to me. thank you again, Pat, for sharing Fargo with us.

Pat Muller

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Oct 11, 2010, 10:12:27 AM10/11/10
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Cara

Thank you for all your kind words.

I just can't imagine a better way to begin my week.

...and to everyone else, this is why I LOVE what I do.

Pat

shel

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Oct 12, 2010, 12:29:06 PM10/12/10
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Cara,

Welcome to the forum. I agree with Pat. These postings have made my
week. I think this is just about the best thing that I have read
about in a long time. Thank you for sharing,

-shel

Cara Folkers

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Oct 14, 2010, 9:16:33 PM10/14/10
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Hi all, another update on Fargo. My husband has a lot of sleep
issues. It's hard to sleep when every time he closes his eyes the
nightmares come back. Last night he took some new meds and actually
got to sleep. However, while he was sleeping, he received a phone call
from a friend of his, another vet, who was in crisis. When he woke up
at 5:30 and saw missed call and listened to the voicemail he tried to
call back but it took several calls for him to get through. His friend
is ok, but Tim came back to bed and had a full blown panic attack. He
was inconsolable I ran and got Fargo out of his crate and he jumped
up on the bed and muzzled Tim until he started petting him. Fargo and
I brought him back and I'm so thankful. Good dog, Fargo!

Kathy N

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Oct 14, 2010, 9:40:23 PM10/14/10
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Cara, this is all so awesome--thank you for sharing.

Pat Muller

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Cara

In the beginning, when Tim and I first began talking about a dog, I
told him that we must first decide on a compatable dog, then develop a
trusting, respectful relationship and the dog must be fluent in all
the Level I commands. I told Tim that it took about a month for the
relationship to "gel" and become normal.

At this level, the dog should (at the very least) be dependable and
understand what is expected of him. If, however, the handler is doing
as he should, he and the dog will begin to bond. The better the
handler, the tighter that bond will be. The tighter the bond, the
more dependent the partnership becomes. At that point, the level of
trust blossoms and when the two individuals are together, they make
eachother whole.

Cara, when this kind of a match happens, the Emotional Support Dog
will do everything it can to make sure that his person does not fail.
His person becomes his god and at this point, in their relationship,
Fargo would willingly lay down his life for Tim, without hesitation.
The relationship between Tim and Fargo, has grown into a beautiful
partnership.

In the beginning, we discussed many dogs and decided that Fargo would
be a good "practice dog." I knew that even if he and Tim were not
100% perfect for eachother, Fargo would be a great family dog until
the perfect dog came along.

At this point, I am not expecting Fargo to move back home anytime soon
unless a more perfect dog comes along. That will be pretty tough,
because after a night like Tim had, I am not sure where I would even
start looking.

Please tell Tim we are all pulling for him and thanks using what he
has gone through and using it to help others.

Later

Pat

Tim Folkers

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Oct 15, 2010, 6:41:22 AM10/15/10
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Oh my Pat, I did have a terrible day yesterday. In the past I have
lost friends to suicide and PTSD. My friends called and told me it
was an emergency and he needed to talk to someone because he was about
to do something drastic. I could not get a hold of him after twenty
calls, and it would be very hard for me to lose another friend,
especially in a needless way like that. Well as Cara said, I had a
full blown panic attack, where she could not even help me, and she
thought very quick on her toes, and let Fargo out. He came to me and
rubbed me until I began petting him telling him easy, I am ok....then
i could at least breathe again. It took a good ten minutes to come
down most of the way, but Fargo WOULD NOT leave my side. When I left
for school I was ill from the trauma, and he would not let me leave
the door because I think he was worried about me. I did not get real
mad bc he would not totally follow me out but stopped at the door and
I wanted to take him so bad. He knows!! But today is a different
day, I am thankful for my wife for helping me get through this, Fargo,
and of course you who shaped Fargo into who he is. Not to mention
you are a great person. Also, today FARGO is going to classes today.
I needed to be ready to handle him in that environment, and I now have
no question that he will follow my command to a t, especially when he
is dressed up!! I will report on this later tonight as my classes run
late. Also look forward to my new topic NO DUMB QUESTIONS, JUST
DUMB PEOPLE!!

Rubyanna Skrede

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Oct 15, 2010, 8:46:43 AM10/15/10
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It has happened.  You are a team and it is awesome.  congrats.
 
I am so happy to read a story like this instead of all the bad news that is put out there. 

LH

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Oct 15, 2010, 12:31:59 PM10/15/10
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Hello Tim and Cara,

Thank you again for sharing your lives with us here. For those of us
who aren't or haven't been in the military,
but who support the CoC program from afar, your stories and those from
the other veterans show us how real
people, real veterans, are living and benefiting every day.

I hope that your friend is doing better today, too.

Lisa

Pat Muller

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Oct 16, 2010, 9:41:14 AM10/16/10
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Hi Tim

I have been keeping up with your posts but until now have not had a
chance to write. Again, it just reinforces the fact that most people
have no idea how much dogs can affect their lives if they would just
let them.

I have helped many people "fix" their dogs but have been frustrated by
the staggering number of people who would not be fixed themselves. It
was not until I began working with first the foster kids and now the
veterans, that I have become free to use dogs to their best advantage.

Because of confidentiality, I have not been free to share many of the
most important accomplishments and happenings. Tim and Cara, you are
amazing people. Not only are you doing your best to live with and use
Fargo in a way that is as close to my instructions as possible, you
are willing to share your journey (both good and not so good) with the
world.

It is this willingness to share that will go so far in helping others
better understand what living with PTSD actually means and what having
a properly conditioned, respectful dog actually means.

Tim, I know your goal is to become a therapist and help other veterans
with PTSD. You still have at least a couple of years before you are
done with school BUT my dear, if you continue to share with others the
way you have been doing here, you are already well on your way.

Tim, I thank you for all that you are doing with Fargo and for
trusting him when you need a little help. The fact that he is so good
at his job tells me that you and Cara are truly doing yours. And I
can't help but smile because the individual who will benefit the most
is Abbie.

Because this all started with some "pretty good material," with all
the good efforts and work, the end results can't help but be a
beautiful creation.

I am anxious to read about your on-going journey with Fargo. I am
especially curious about your professors and the professionals you
deal with. Remember Tim, sometimes educating the educators can be a
bit frustrating.

Have a great weekend

Pat

Pat Muller

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Oct 16, 2010, 9:44:57 AM10/16/10
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Hi again Tim

I wrote and clicked so quickly that I forgot to ask how your friend is
doing?

Feel free to come for a visit if you feel he could benefit from a time
spent walking out back.

Take care my friend

Pat

Tim Folkers

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Oct 18, 2010, 7:54:21 AM10/18/10
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Thank you for asking Pat, I finally really got a hold of him Friday,
and he is doing good. PTSD is a very tough thing as it can just hit
you! Sorry for the delay in writing but it has been hectic!! Fargo
attended two classes on Friday. One from 2-4, the other from 4-6. He
was really well received by the faculty and students, and the fact
that he was so calm helped that. So many of the students, whom I had
never spoken to came up to me and said oh he reminds me of my dog at
home that I miss. So I think it helped them some. My professor kind
of introduced him as she had met him before and just said kinda, he
will be here, kind of like our mascot. It made me comfortable so it
worked. So I do not really have anything to say about the job Fargo
did in class. He settled with his head watching my back, not a moment
where he was not suppose to be what he was doing! Perfect this first
go around. Also, I am learning about Fargo and think he is beginning
to really trust me and have my back. I have really never heard Fargo
bark as I have said. Once or twice for seperation reasons. Well on
Saturday evening I was home alone while my wife and sister in law ran
errands. Unknowingly to me, my sister in laws boyfriend was coming to
our house to meet us. He came to the back patio where the sliding
door was with the blinds partially closed. Fargo saw this, took off
towards the door and let out the two most vicious barks i have
heard!! I noticed who it was, told Fargo it was ok, and thank you,
and THATS ENOUGH. He stopped, and a minute later they were buddies
sitting on the couch. Fargo's intent was not to harm, I think it was
to alert me and protect me if need be bc this person was in our
space. The last thing happened hours ago. Our five year old daughter
came into our room upset and got in bed with us. She had a
nightmare. Before I was awake enough to realize what was going on,
Fargo who sleeps in his crate, but with door open, was on the bed
lying next to her. He then put his muzzle on her chest. When all was
good and abbie was calm he returned to his crate. I explained to my
daughter, that Fargo did that because he thought you were sad or hurt
and he was just looking out for you....He was by the way.....so those
are a couple of days of stories about the ole Fargo, seems to have
adjusted really well, he seems comfortable and as Ruby said, Fargo and
I really seem to be working as a team!!

Holly Tulin

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Oct 18, 2010, 9:02:14 AM10/18/10
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Tim, thank you for telling us about your journey with Fargo. Your stories
are giving us Forum folks a rare first-hand insight into how a beautiful
working relationship develops.

I salute you for sharing with us, and for doing the right things to ensure
that Fargo is successful.

If Fargo could speak himself, I'm sure he'd tell you he's the happiest dog
on the planet--he has a job he understands, he is doing it very well, and he
is valued by you and your family for doing it.

Please continue to let us know about your progress.

Holly


Janis Moore

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Tim and Cara, thank you so much for sharing your experiences with
Fargo. It means so much to me to hear the stories and Pat's replies.

Cassidy has become so important to me and has had such a positive
influence on my life.

To be honest, reading your posts brings tears to my eyes.

You really have developed a relationship with Fargo. It is so
wonderful to read about.

I tell myself that there is a gift everywhere, sometimes it comes to
us through hardship. Developing a true bond with Cassidy has been a
gift to me.

Thank you for sharing and I look forward to more stories.

Janis


Pat Muller

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Hi

There has been so much going on and I am hoping to get caught up
soon. In the meantime, I got a Fargo Report from Tim and wanted to
share.

>I just wanted to let you know quick, Fargo is doing great still. He never did get sick again after that one time. He loves his food, and his bird necks. We have an all natural store around the corner. Fargo goes through even a turkey neck pretty fast so I bought him this yak and cow milk chew and he loves chewing on it and he hasn't even made a dent. So that is good, I made sure all natural with no preservatives. Have any of your dogs tried antler? Well I have stories to post but my daughter has the computer so I will post tonight. They are touching and amazing that speaks to Fargo's nature and personality. Also he has been working very well at the VA and school. Now at home, he is great too, we are working easy on stairs with two lines bc he does not like them yet. He would rather sprint up them but he is getting better and I am fixing that the best I can. I'm sure you will have a good tip! I'll post later Pat, have a great one.

To all of you

I just love what I do!

Pat

Janis Moore

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I really enjoy reading about Fargo and Tim. Gives me more insight into
myself and Cassidy. It is easier to see what happens with others and
their dogs, but tough to see in your own dog and yourself at times.

I have tried antlers with Cassidy, she likes them and has taken her
time chewing them short. I like them better than cow hoofs because
there is no smell. They seem expensive, but because it takes awhile to
chew them, it evens out.

Janis

Tim Folkers

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Fargo continues to do well. I think he is finally really in a comfort
zone now. He knows his job, and is always on duty even when at home.
But with a few well placed natural chews and toys he is beginning to
be more playful. He also loves to zig zag run with me. He is still
rather serious, but now is showing his playful side! He loves his
ears rubbed, and yesterday he was so tired after playing with his
sheep toy, he passed out in the middle of the floor. He has never
done that, as he sleeps behind my chair, just as in scholl he will sit
or lye facing backwards to watch for me. He is so cool. I have two
stories to share out of many positive experiences at the VA. The
first, while I was very upset, Fargo kept me calm. I reached my
speech clinic where I love the staff. Everyone knows Fargo in the
whole Milwaukee VA, but especially in this clinic. A doctor who has
taken a particular interest in Fargo brought one of her patients, an
older veteran who seemed to be suffering from Dementia. This man did
not know where he was and would not speak, until he said dog, I love
dogs. The Doc was kind of blown away, so i brought Fargo over and he
petted Fargo and Fargo did so well, and actually went back over to the
man, and I told the veteran Fargo liked him, he likes his veterans! A
big smile came out of this old veterans face who did not know where he
even was moments earlier. Since then, we have seen this man in the
clinic, and although he does not remember his name, he knows the army
dog! So it is a treat for this hero and this hero dog. The second
event happened in the same clinic. The secretary at the clinic is a
veteran herself. She was having a particularly bad day because the
printer was down and all of the red tape at the VA to get it fixed.
She was worried the therapist and doctors would blame her. She was so
stressed as I waited for my appointment that she asked if she could
just pet Fargo to try and relax. She sat down, and of course Fargo
followed his orders to come see this woman. He sat there for five
minutes as this veteran petted him and said easy over and over. When
it was time for my appointment, we left and thanked me, and said that
she really did get relaxation out of Fargo. I said that is one of his
jobs! I look at Fargo as my sidekick, but if he can help another
person having a bad day, it also helps to make my day. I know how it
is and know the relaxation properties of a dog can help. Fargo is
trained to do so many things, but he just knows when somebody needs
some loving!!! I have pics but do not know how to post them...if i
cannot figure that out I will send to Pat, and she can maybe post them
of this great dog!

Holly Tulin

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Tim, thank you again for sharing more Fargo stories.

He's obviously a dog who loves his job. You're pursuing an education in
something you love, too and already reaching out to help others. That's an
awesome combination, which is already making a difference in the larger
world--another wonderful and widening circle of change.

We'd love to see pictures, but unfortunately Google isn't letting us add
files or pictures to the Forum anymore. Maybe one of the local-to-Quansa
folks can walk you through how to use one of the picture-sharing websites,
and you can send us a link.

Holly


Rubyanna Skrede

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Oh Tim, this brings a tear to my eye.  How great for that man.  Brings back a memory for me.  Some day if you are around Q remind me to share the story of my old Tally and the grandpa.
 
Please keep up the good work.


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Pat Muller

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Hi

I just wanted to share a Fargo encounter.....

Last week, Tim and Fargo joined our Wed. class. What a treat! I
always send some dogs outside when the veterans begin to arrive. In
that way, everyone gets a chance to visit before it's time to begin.

When I finally walked in, most of the dogs, including Fargo were out
back. Tim called his boy in and the rest followed. All were wet from
swimming and very happy. Fargo came over to say "Hi" and then went
back to Tim's side. Fargo looks good, he has put on a bit of weight
but he was slim before so there is no problem.

The biggest change is that Fargo no longer has any hint of being a
puppy. At this point, he is a mature, focused working adult with a
purpose. It is easy to see that Fargo is staying balanced, so I know
he is working hard but has breaks and is given adequate "time off."
All through the class, Fargo remained right next to Tim and he was
impressively calm no matter what was going on.

I did get a chance to talk to Tim. He told me that Fargo was quickly
becoming a valued member of their family and asked if there was a
possibility that maybe he could become a "permanent employee." I told
Tim that I always thought it might be a possibility. Tim smiled and
petted HIS dog.

It was time to go and Tim headed for the door. It was at that point,
I saw Fargo do something I had not seen before. Instead of MY dog
wanting to stay and play, Tim's dog pulled him toward the door without
a backward glance. I have a feeling Fargo has already made his
decision.

All we can do at this point is
smile.......

Pat

Tim Folkers

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Oh he is a good boy, Pat, he is rolling on the floor playing ball
right now, having some fun. And you say a dog is a reflection of it's
owner, that is why he gained weight....ha At the very beginning I was
giving more raw than I do now and his diet has changed a little.
People use to tell me he was small, I said he is healthy. Now it
seems as if he is a little bulkier in the chest but still has a nice
waist line, and you can still feel ribs so he is doing ok, right where
I would like him to be I think.......Fargo is mature, very very mature
but can have fun too. He loves to run, play ball, just very well
balanced. Bu when it is work time, he is ALL business!

Pat Muller

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Tim

Fargo is valued and has purpose when he is with you. That makes him
feel good about himself because he has a boss that appreciates him.
Because you acknowledge and appreciate his efforts, that gives Fargo a
reason to be excited about the job he has been trained and hired to
do.

Fargo has what all of us want...a secure job that we love to do and
even more importantly, to be appreciated for our efforts. If you were
"putting on a show" and the only time you did it right was out in
public, Fargo would reflect exactly that.

The way you are handling him may not be exactly the way I would do it
BUT that does not matter. In your company, you have the right and
obligation to direct, handle and make use of your employee in a way
that works best for you. The fact that Fargo is able to come back
here and fit in as easily as he does tells me that even tho it may be
a bit different, you have continued to maintain all the basic
information and lessons he has learned.

Tim, you have done far more than maintain, you have in fact, Fargo's
knowledge and skills have been honed, improved, enhanced, expanded and
multiplied. So at this point I must say to myself, Fargo is a great
dog and deserves to have only the best, Right?

So if that is true.................

If the chosen home is not as good as the one I can offer, Fargo is
such a great dog, he deserves to stay here...
BUT,.,.If the chosen home is better and has more to offer than I can,
Fargo is such a great dog, he deserves to live there.

So where do YOU think Fargo deserves to live?

Later

Pat

Tim Folkers

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Yesterday, Fargo and I were kicked out of the VA in Milwaukee. They
asked for his certificate that he was a service dog. Since legally
there is not really such a thing or requirement I did not have it.
They told me to go to voluntary services to register him. I finally
got a clear answer from voluntary services, THEY DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING
TO DO WITH SERVICE DOGS, ONLY VISITING THERAPY DOGS!! The cops were
rude, unprofessional and were dumb enough to cross that line of asking
what my disability was. It tore my heart out, because of Fargo has
become an extension of me. A good friend and advocate that a lot of
us know will be up to the Milwaukee VA to assist me very soon, and we
will make some headway for future veterans that require a service
dog. This has turned into my short term goal, is to protect the
rights of our veterans. One dumb cop not knowing the rehab act of
1973 can cause too much distress, so we need to educate. Kind of
funny that Fargo has been going to the VA for months with me and they
never noticed him. Gives me a lot of faith in our VA rent-a-cops!

Rubyanna Skrede

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Tim you may be the Rosa Parks of the service dogs??


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> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 09:55:09 -0800

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Sara Peterka

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Tim,

Hang in there.

Most people do not even know in what ways a dog can be of service to people. It takes someone with a vested interest to pay enough attention to know all that dogs can do.

My aunt is an airline stewardess and in recent update to company policy found out that service animals must be allowed in the cabin on flights, to include miniature horses, pigs, etc. Who'd have thunk it?

I'm sure these guys are just ignorant and have no idea, because they just don't understand. Teach them, so that they might understand, for the next vet. Or maybe they will take up the cause and assist with educating the country about service dogs.

Sara

Holly Tulin

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Tim, the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) requires that service dogs be
allowed in all public places. Those "rent-a-cops" as well as a lot of other
people need to be informed about what the Federal law requires.

You go, guy! You have the law and a whole bunch of good folks behind you.

You also might think about calling the local ACLU Chapter to ask for help is
convincing people they have to obey the law.

Holly


Holly Tulin

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Tim--here's a link to the official ADA site about service dogs:
http://www.ada.gov/qasrvc.htm

Good luck!

Holly


Holly Tulin

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Tim, sorry for so many postings, but stuff like this really gets me going.

I found a card for service dog owners/handlers that's available from PetJoy
at this link:

http://www.petjoyonline.com/ADA-Federal-Law-Information-Card-for-Service-Dog
-p/svd-0054.htm

The card says:'
United States Federal Law
The Owner/Handler of this Service Animal is presenting this card voluntarily
and is NOT REQUIRED by Federal Law to do so under the Federal ADA Act of the
U.S., FAA & D.O.T.

This Service Animal and their access to all public places and commercial
carriers is protected under Federal Law. For questions regarding the ADA,
please contact the United States Department of Justice at 1-800-514-0301.
For questions regarding airline activity call the D.O.T. between 9-5 EST at
1-800-514-0301.

US Dept. Of justice Website: www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/adahom1.htm
Customer Aviation Protection Division 14CFR Part 382
http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gove/rules/20030509.pdf

It might make your life easier to have something like this card handy to
give people who start to make trouble for you and Fargo.

Holly

Ken Korn

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Dec 7, 2010, 2:11:06 PM12/7/10
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Thanks Holly. Very informative. Especially this: "Although a number of
states have programs to certify service animals, you may not insist on
proof of state certification before permitting the service animal to
accompany the person with a disability."

Go Tim!!!

Ken

Holly Tulin

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It's also a violation of the ADA (and beyond rude) to ask a person what
their disability is!

Plus, Therapy Dogs are NOT covered by the ADA, and are not guaranteed access
to anywhere.

Sounds like the security guys need to go back to class.

Holly


Tim Folkers

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Dec 7, 2010, 7:05:36 PM12/7/10
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The guard was uniformed and will most likely lose his job, as I am
hoping. I will actually insist on it, because they did violate
federal law all on camera. Also, Federal buildings are covered under
the National Rehab act of 1973 but is very similar and the ADA which
was modeled after the rehab act. Bottom line was Fargo and I were in
the right, the rent a cops were not and violated federal law by asking
my disability and preventing me access to the premisses. It is ok
though, I am willing to take some lumps if it makes it easier for
veterans in the future. I will, with the help of my friends from COC,
and Quansa and all of you, make a difference in the way people look at
veterans with psychological disabilities. I want to thank each and
everyone of you for your support during the frustrating and difficult
time!

LH

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Dec 7, 2010, 9:18:56 PM12/7/10
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Tim,

I read your first post earlier today and the posts from everyone else,
then I had to shut down the Forum and
come back later to write nicely... I was so irritated with the
ignorance. Wouldn't one think that a security guard
at a VA would have some training!?

You are capable of dealing with this and will take care of it. For
that, you and Fargo are fortunate. I can only imagine
how others might be unable to see their way to setting things right.

As always, I look forward to your ever-interesting posts.

Lisa

Pat Muller

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Hi Tim and all

For all of you who support Circle of Change and the dog program, Tim
and Fargo are two shining stars in an often very ugly world. I am so
proud of both of them. We know when we begin to teach that some will
learn and some will not.

It is not until there is a test that we know the answer. Tim and
Fargo have passed with flying colors.

...and just think, two years ago a busy 11 week old Border Collie
puppy, unwanted & useless, was given up. He was a crazy one and did
not even have a name until I came back from Canada. He ended up to be
Fargo and he WAS a Border Collie, in every sense of the word.

Fargo tried hard to grow up as a BC, but Sam, Londyn, Smudge, Zee and
all the rest corrected the heck out of him EVERY time he became
obcessive. Oh, there were times, but for the most part, Fargo grew up
as a part time Border Collie and in reality, Fargo is more like an
Australian Shepherd than a Border Collie.

"We" (numerous people) trained and worked Fargo. He was given plenty
of time to mature and grow. Fargo was very well trained but needed a
good boss. I placed him once but he was returned because of the
unwillingness of the people to set realistic limits and to be
consistent.

That was when I decided that Fargo's education should be kicked up a
notch and that is where Tim entered the picture. He was attending the
veterans' classes and Tim caught on fast. He was a natural trainer,
good timing and not afraid to jump in and work any dog. In fact, by
the end of class, I felt Tim was Lakeland Level Capable and you all
know that is a compliment from me.

It hurt me when the home failed. But Fargo was just fine. He bounced
back without missing a beat and it showed me the depth of this little
dog's character. In the end, when Tim introduced Fargo to Cara &
Abbie, the decision was made pretty easily.

Tim, I just cannot tell you how happy and proud you make me. You have
lived up to every promise you made when you loaded that hairy little
dog in your truck and drove out the driveway. Because of all Fargo
had been through, it was hard to let him go but I am so very glad I
did. It is obvious to me that you, Cara and Abbie are giving Fargo
all the support, limits and security he needs to feel valued.

And it is for that reason, no matter what goes on or what you
encounter, your team mate will watch your back, keep you safe and
never desert you. Keep up the good work and believe me, I KNOW that
setting a good example IS uncomfortable sometimes and you are not
always popular. Remember too, that if there is a day that you do not
feel like arguing, slap a vest on the hairy guy.

Please keep us posted and updated.

Thank you

Pat

jo

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Dec 7, 2010, 11:34:04 PM12/7/10
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Tim

Shame on them...they should be totally ashamed on how they treated
someone...especially a vet. No matter
what you need the service dog for, a service dog is a service dog.
Again, shame on them.

I have a feeling though that they will become quickly educated...

Keep up the good work, we are all proud of you...and Fargo!

Jo

Tim Folkers

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Well, last night i received a call from the patient advocate admitting
that the VA did not follow their policies and were in the wrong.
Today I received a call from the chief of police for Milwaukee
Regional Police Chief. He wants to set up a meeting to be educated,
and was very apologetic. I have someone in mind to bring along with
for this appointment. He said I can bring anyone I want, so if anyone
involved with the program is interested please let me know, because
you are all great support for me. He told me he implementing a
training program to all of his officers but he also needs educated so
that he can educate his force. They are trying to save face because
of the laws that were violated so of course they are very nice now!
All I want is for my stress to go away when going to the VA, and more
importantly, prevent future veterans from encountering ANY problems.
I hope that they follow through with what they are saying. Pat, I
will give you a call a little later Abbie goes to school, as I am
playing full time daddy right now.
Thank you ALL for the support, you cannot imagine how good it makes me
feel. And Pat, you are right wear the vest, Im getting cards made by
a friend to ID him as a "certified" service dog, just to avoid
conflict at all. And Pat, as you said and it is a quote I will use
until I die, "Stupid is a terminal disease!"

On Oct 18, 7:02 am, "Holly Tulin" <redr...@aol.com> wrote:

Rubyanna Skrede

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this is good news Tim.


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> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 09:27:32 -0800

> Subject: Re: Fargo, and my Pshch 414 class in use
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Holly Tulin

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Tim,

 

When you first started posting to this group, you wrote that you wanted to help other veterans.  So, you’re already doing that--even before the meeting!  That’s an important accomplishment, so please savor reaching one of your goals.  Most of us don’t take time to acknowledge our achievements—we just get on to the next thing.

 

Pat always says that dogs are here to teach US.  Now you and Fargo will get to teach a group that will change MANY people’s lives.  A lot of folks on this Forum will be sending you energy and support for that meeting, even if we can’t be there in person.

 

Thank you for sharing your journey with us.

 

Holly

 

Dennis & Lynette

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Tim,

I haven't met you, but I attend the Tuesday morning mentoring class and have
read your stories on the forum. I live in Kenosha and only 30 minutes from
the VA in Milwaukee. You asked if anyone would be able to attend your
meeting with the police. If the meeting were on a Tuesday and I didn't have
other commitments that day I would be glad to attend with you. You could ask
Pat if she thought I would be qualified. If she approved we could talk and
take it from there. I believe Pat has my phone number.

Think about it

Lynette


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Pat Muller

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Hi Tim

On Dec 9, 11:27 am, Tim Folkers <folkersati...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, last night i received a call from the patient advocate admitting
> that the VA did not follow their policies and were in the wrong.
> Today I received a call from the chief of police for Milwaukee
> Regional Police Chief.  He wants to set up a meeting to be educated,
> and was very apologetic.

This is SOOOO cool. I knew there would be a resolution but I was not
expecting it so soon. This is a very exciting and huge move in the
right direction; not only for you but for others who depend on a
service dog to help them while out in the community. Can you just
imagine some shy, less capable handler being intimidated by someone in
authority? They would have left in tears, gone home and covered their
head.

Tim, you are speaking up for all those people who struggle to overcome
the stigma that is the result of the many badly behaved, out of
control, even dangerous dogs in our Country. Often people dislike
dogs because of their own bad experiences with them growing up. In
this Country, we are raising a whole new generation of people who will
never understand the value, let alone a working relationship with a
dog.

 >I have someone in mind to bring along with for this appointment.  He
said I can bring anyone I want, so if anyone
> involved with the program is interested please let me know, because
> you are all great support for me.  He told me he implementing a
> training program to all of his officers but he also needs educated so
> that he can educate his force.  

This is a wonderful opportunity. We need to give this man credit, he
is trying to learn and in turn, will educate others....all because of
one hairy dog. Please give Fargot a "Good dog" for me.

>They are trying to save face because
> of the laws that were violated so of course they are very nice now!
> All I want is for my stress to go away when going to the VA, and more
> importantly, prevent future veterans from encountering ANY problems.
> I hope that they follow through with what they are saying.  

Sadly, the (hopefully) good guy in charge is having to do this because
of one thoughtless little man. I really wish I could be there but
unfortunately, until cloning is an option, I am stuck.

>Pat, I will give you a call a little later Abbie goes to school, as I am
> playing full time daddy right now.
> Thank you ALL for the support, you cannot imagine how good it makes me
> feel.  And Pat, you are right wear the vest, Im getting cards made by
> a friend to ID him as a "certified" service dog, just to avoid
> conflict at all.  And Pat, as you said and it is a quote I will use
> until I die, "Stupid is a terminal disease!"

Hey Tim, that sounds like a great motto. I think Mark knows where to
get patches made! Is there enough room on that vest for that one?

My friend, I am so proud of the way all this has played out. You are
doing a great job of keeping perspective and staying focused. What
you went through would have upset anyone, you have made good decisions
and your reward lies just ahead.

Good for you

Pat

Sara

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Dec 22, 2010, 8:56:22 AM12/22/10
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBMU85XT3Lw&NR=1

Here is a link to an informational video on service dogs.

Sara

Pat Muller

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Dec 22, 2010, 10:20:24 AM12/22/10
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Sara

Thank you SOOOOO much for this posting. It is VERY important
information for everyone to know.

Thanks

Pat

WFTist

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Jan 28, 2011, 7:29:26 PM1/28/11
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Has anyone heard from Tim or Cara?

Tim, his family and Fargo are in my thoughts often.

If anyone hears from Tim or Cara, please pass on wishes for peace and
progress.

Holly

Tim Folkers

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Jan 29, 2011, 4:49:17 PM1/29/11
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Holly thank you for checking on us:) I have been keeping in contact
with Pat on the phone. Fargo is doing wonderful, my family as well.
I continue to struggle with somethings and am attending a 6 week
program in the middle of Feb. I have been to this program once and
hope to get more out of it this time, because this time I am going on
my free will. I really appreciate your concern. Also Karen, for some
reason all of my emails got deleted and I want to reply to your email
so if you can send me another one it would be great. Also, I have
taught/been teaching Fargo to roll over, he is getting pretty good.
More for my daughter than any service tasks, but watching my daughter
smile makes me smile:)

Thanks again Holly and I will try to be on here and the new forum
more!!

Holly Tulin

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Jan 29, 2011, 7:00:55 PM1/29/11
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It's good to hear from you, Tim.

Your attitude about the program is admirable and should set you up to get
the maximum benefit from it this time. Hopefully, having Fargo at your side
will make it easier to concentrate and participate fully.

Learning something new is important for people and dogs alike. And smiling
daughters are an especially great reward for both dads and dogs.

Take care and please stay in touch. And hug both your daughter and Fargo
for me, please. Oh, and Cara too!

Holly

Pat Muller

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Jan 30, 2011, 9:42:08 AM1/30/11
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Hi Tim and all

I too often think about and wonder how things are going. I am always
glad for phone calls and emails. I try hard to respect Tim's privacy
so I have not written publically about any of what I hear.

> I continue to struggle with somethings and am attending a 6 week
> program in the middle of Feb.  I have been to this program once and
> hope to get more out of it this time, because this time I am going on
> my free will.  I really appreciate your concern.  

I am hoping that once you have attended the program, you will be able
to spend more time here with us. You were here for the one session
and all of a sudden, you had Fargo and life got busy. I would love to
see you, Tim, much more involved with the COC Veterans' Program. Just
imagine having constant reinforcement of safe, confident and
positive.

The relationship you have with Fargo is beautiful and Tim, you need a
place for it to shine. Once you come back from Chicago, getting more
involved with Circle of Change would give constant reinforcement; as
well as a wonderful opportunity to affect , educate and help many
other veterans as well.

I was very pleased when to know that Fargo is continuing his
education. Giving Abbie ways to take charge and be his leader will
help her learn the management skills that will help her all through
her life. I am also glad that Fargo has good enough work ethics, that
has resulted in Fargo working dependabley not only for Tim but also
for Tim's child.

There are so many positives in your life Tim, I hope this visit will
give you a chance to step back out of the situation and get some
perpective and make some thoughtful decisions.

Please keep in touch, we really do care.

Pat
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