Help with advice for internet acquaintance

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hydrangea8

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Dec 14, 2010, 10:12:28 AM12/14/10
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Back in September, a woman on a child-oriented internet group I'm a
member of posted about adopting another Boxer. (I did give her the
link to this site back in September, but she hasn't shown up as far as
I know.) She went ahead & adopted the Boxer, seems like all is well.
Yesterday she posts for help because the new dog is growling at the
2.5 year old boy who won't leave the dog alone while Mom is trying to
cook dinner. She wants to know if it's OK to crate the dog since she
is distracted & cannot properly supervise both the child & the dog.
She is getting conflicting advice from some who say it is "punishment"
to crate the dog, to others who feel it's perfectly OK to crate the
dog for several hours in the afternoon. I suggested crating was fine
& also how to tie the dog to the back door, although I was concerned
that the child could still get to the dog & then the dog cannot get
away if it is tied. She is giving timeouts to the child for messing
with the dog & is considering swatting. The child has some sort of
sensory processing disorder. I don't really know anything about that
and how it relates to teaching the child.
How would you advise this person? I would like to see both the child
& the dog succeed here.
Brooke

Sara Peterka

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Dec 14, 2010, 10:28:04 AM12/14/10
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It sounds like it is a stressful situation for the mom, the dog and the 2.5 year old.

The more stress, the more likely someone or somedog is likely to "react". For mom, that would be swatting, for the dog that would be biting, the toddler acting out.

Emphasis should be placed on managing the situation to reduce stress. Tie the dog in a safe spot with a bed and chew toy. Put the toddler in a "play pen" with suitable toys. Then mom can have a break to cook supper with just a small amount of supervision rather than doing damage control.

Sara

Rubyanna Skrede

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Dec 14, 2010, 10:38:34 AM12/14/10
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Ask her why she is giving the child timeouts and not the dog???  Crating IS the answer here.  People that tell her it is wrong.....tell her to ask them if they want to pay the bills from a dog biting the kid in the face?
 
Tell her it is not fair to leave the dog unprotected.  She is supposed to be the leader and it is her job to keep the dog safe.  That would be the crate in this case.
 
Sorry if I sound abrupt, but I am.  I cannot understand why a parent needs permission to protect the child from a possible bite.

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hydrangea8

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Dec 14, 2010, 11:03:15 AM12/14/10
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thank you Ruby, that is what I was thinking but lacking the wording to
say so.

On Dec 14, 9:38 am, Rubyanna Skrede <adal...@msn.com> wrote:
> Ask her why she is giving the child timeouts and not the dog???  Crating IS the answer here.  People that tell her it is wrong.....tell her to ask them if they want to pay the bills from a dog biting the kid in the face?
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> Tell her it is not fair to leave the dog unprotected.  She is supposed to be the leader and it is her job to keep the dog safe.  That would be the crate in this case.
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> Sorry if I sound abrupt, but I am.  I cannot understand why a parent needs permission to protect the child from a possible bite.
>
> Quansa's Nanny **************************************** Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, Airedale in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride!
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> > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 07:12:28 -0800
> > Subject: Help with advice for internet acquaintance
> > From: b...@whiterocksw.com

Holly Tulin

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Dec 14, 2010, 11:12:05 AM12/14/10
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I agree with Ruby that crating the dog is the right answer, but I also agree
with Sara about the mom's need to manage the whole situation.

She needs to set EVERYONE (including herself) up to succeed in the
cooking-dinner situation. What she's got now is a recipe for disaster.

Do what Pat does--make it so that both the kid and the dog can be praised
for exhibiting the desired behavior. Then, the mom is working to create
that behavior as the normal for her home.

Plus, the mom doesn't lose her cool and also her credibility as the worthy
leader of the group of beings.

Holly

WFTist

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Dec 15, 2010, 10:01:44 AM12/15/10
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Brooke's friend has joined us as a member of this forum, but I can't
tell her name from the email.

New Member, please introduce yourself, (including the name or nickname
you'd like us to call you), and tell us about your family and dogs.

Holly

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