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Vacatio...@webtv.net

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I found a list of radio stations in southeastern Wisconsin from the
mid-1980s and I was wondering if anybody knew could post what formats
the following radio stations used to be and what types of music they
played at the time:

WLPX (97.3)
WZUU (95.7)
WXJY (98.3)
WJZQ (95.1)
WKZN (96.9)
WFNY (92.1)
WRKR (100.7)
WBKV (92.5)

Radio in Milwaukee today seems to be very boring, although I am
wondering if it is any different from in the past. Thank you for any
information.


Cybernanc

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>From: Vacatio...@webtv.net

>I found a list of radio stations in southeastern Wisconsin from the
>mid-1980s and I was wondering if anybody knew could post what formats
>the following radio stations used to be and what types of music they
>played at the time:

>WRKR (100.7)

Wasn't this the station from Racine? It was one of my favorites. Played Top
40.


The above comments are the author's opinions and should
not be misconstrued as flames against someone with differing
opinions. Thank you.
~~nancy~~

Mark from Milwaukee

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Vacatio...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> I found a list of radio stations in southeastern Wisconsin from the
> mid-1980s and I was wondering if anybody knew could post what formats
> the following radio stations used to be and what types of music they
> played at the time:
>
> WLPX (97.3)
> WZUU (95.7)
> WXJY (98.3)
> WJZQ (95.1)
> WKZN (96.9)
> WFNY (92.1)
> WRKR (100.7)
> WBKV (92.5)
>
> Radio in Milwaukee today seems to be very boring, although I am
> wondering if it is any different from in the past. Thank you for any
> information.

I think I can remember a few from the mid-80's though the dates are not clear in
my mind...

WZUU (the zoo) was top 40/rock
WBKV (West Bend) was "easy listening" (read: elevator music)
WRKR (Racine??? Was this a jazz station? Wasn't it the one that carried Dr.
Demento?)

--
Mark from Milwaukee

Andrew Roach

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WRKR was from Racine as you said. They were a real good radio station in
there day playing top 40.

Andrew

That will do, shove back ten car lengths to a joint.


Alan Carr

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Yepper. "The Rocker" was a Top 40 station, competition for KTI, that
was the only place to hear the good Doctor in SE Wisconsin.


WLPX was an "album rock" aka "progressive rock" (hence the LP in it's
name) like the original QFM. I believe Joy98 was a soft rock/easy
listening station. ZUU ("The Zoo") was Top 40, home of Larry the
Legend and is now Oldies 95.

Not sure of the others.

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Goofy 1

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WLPX started on Thanksgiving Day in the year of 1979? They played Rock &
roll wasn;'t this station #1 by Christmas??

WZUU was that like top 40 tunes?

You missed WZMF they played Like Hendrix and Patti Page style
stuff.Jefferson Airplane also.

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<my ham call> e l l s o u t h . n e t

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On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:41:01 -0500, Mark from Milwaukee
<sy...@execpc.com> wrote:
>WRKR (Racine??? Was this a jazz station? Wasn't it the one that carried Dr.
>Demento?)

Yes, WRKR was licensed to Racine. (the 100.7 station, whatever its
calls are these days, is still technically a Racine station. These
days, all that means is the tower has to be located somewhere that
provides a decent signal in Racine & they have to have a toll-free
phone number that works in Racine.)

It was a jazz station for awhile, but I don't think as WRKR - I think
they changed their call letters first.

Doug S.


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On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:35:40 -0500 (CDT), Vacatio...@webtv.net

wrote:
>I found a list of radio stations in southeastern Wisconsin from the
>mid-1980s and I was wondering if anybody knew could post what formats
>the following radio stations used to be and what types of music they
>played at the time:

>WLPX (97.3): Album rock, kinda like WLZR.
>WZUU (95.7): Top 40/Rock.
>WXJY (98.3): Easy listening (this didn't last long. It had just converted from fantastic underground rock station WZMF.)
>WJZQ (95.1): Pretty much the same thing it is today, just a different slogan & call letters.
>WKZN (96.9): I forget... easy listening?
>WFNY (92.1): ditto
>WRKR (100.7): Top 40/Rock.
>WBKV (92.5): Easy listening.


>
>Radio in Milwaukee today seems to be very boring, although I am
>wondering if it is any different from in the past. Thank you for any
>information.

IMHO it isn't any worse than it was after WZMF died. Nor is it any
better.

Doug S.


Cybernanc

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>From: Mark from Milwaukee <sy...@execpc.com>

>WRKR (Racine??? Was this a jazz station? Wasn't it the one that carried Dr.
>Demento?)

Yes, Dr. Demento, on Sunday nights. Wasn't it after Casey Kasem's top 40
countdown show? I think they turned jazz after they were top 40 later in the
80's.

Cybernanc

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>From: Goofy 1 <xgo...@ticon.net>

>You missed WZMF they played Like Hendrix and Patti Page style
>stuff.

Huh???

Lancelot Link

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@ b e l l s o u t h . n e t (Doug Smith) wrote:
>
> On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:41:01 -0500, Mark from Milwaukee
> <sy...@execpc.com> wrote:
> >WRKR (Racine??? Was this a jazz station? Wasn't it the one that carried Dr.
> >Demento?)
>
> Yes, WRKR was licensed to Racine. (the 100.7 station, whatever its
> calls are these days, is still technically a Racine station. These
> days, all that means is the tower has to be located somewhere that
> provides a decent signal in Racine & they have to have a toll-free
> phone number that works in Racine.)
>
> It was a jazz station for awhile, but I don't think as WRKR - I think
> they changed their call letters first.
>
> Doug S.

WBGK, before changing over to Hot100 (crap radio)!

Lancelot Link

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Goofy 1 wrote:
>
> You missed WZMF they played Like Hendrix and Patti Page style
> stuff.Jefferson Airplane also.

ZMF! Man, that brings back memories! The Milwaukee Famous and totally
decrepit, "Grandfather of Milwaukee Rock Radio" Bob Reitman (now on 94
WKTI), got his Milwaukee start. He used to play tons of Dylan and other
folksy stuff nightly, (don't remember any Patti Page... maybe some Patti
Smith, though), from 8-10 pm., then they would magically switch over to
"Classical" music of all things.

I used to lay in bed on school nights with my headphones on "groovin'"
to Dylan, CSN, Airplane, with the occasional Stones or Hendrix cut
thrown in for good measure, and wake up around 10:30 or 11:00 listening
to Mozart's 5th, with one side of my headphones not working because I
was sleeping on the cord and twisted it funny. I musta went through a
truckload of headphones back then!

Those days will never come again, but will live on in my memory forever,
(or at least until I'm on permanent "Lay-a-way")!

Amen!

Webguide

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Goofy 1 wrote:
>
> WLPX started on Thanksgiving Day in the year of 1979? They played Rock &
> roll wasn;'t this station #1 by Christmas??
>
> WZUU was that like top 40 tunes?
>
> You missed WZMF they played Like Hendrix and Patti Page style
> stuff.Jefferson Airplane also.
>
> Vacatio...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > I found a list of radio stations in southeastern Wisconsin from the
> > mid-1980s and I was wondering if anybody knew could post what formats
> > the following radio stations used to be and what types of music they
> > played at the time:
> >(clipped to save bandwidth)

> >
> > Radio in Milwaukee today seems to be very boring, although I am
> > wondering if it is any different from in the past. Thank you for any
> > information.
><<><>><<>><><><><<><>><<><><><><><><><>><><<>><<><><><>><

I'm stil laghing about the "Hendrix and Patti Page" comment.Is there a
Patti Page out there somewhere who was ever ANYTHING like Hendrix? (I'm
thinking of the one who made, "Hush Hush, Sweet Charlott" - anyway..to
respond to the second part, I've found in my travels that a good radio
station is hard to find ANYWHERE. Most of them have sold out to the high
advertising dollars and have lost the integrity of the music. Best
bets? I usually head for the college radio stations. A lot of them are
still playing experimental stuff - off the beaten path sort of music -
world beat, alternative, folk, et al. I've found that college radio
stations offer a wider variety of better music than most commercial ones
do. Any good ones in Milwaukee?

Stacy Alexander

*)((**((((*)*()*()*()*()*()*)(*)()*(*)()*()(*)(*)(*)(*)*()(*

Goofy 1

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It was my Cousin's Fav station .... It was actually like Menonimee Falls
or whaichever menominees is enar Milwaukee.... They played Heavy Druggy
type songs ... It was her Favorite it seemd this went <poof> When WLPX
started.Or it may have been an underground Radio station.

Cybernanc wrote:

> >From: Goofy 1 <xgo...@ticon.net>
>
> >You missed WZMF they played Like Hendrix and Patti Page style

Goofy 1

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The comment was their style if Music .. Like in Drug INduced stuff .. whatever
you want to call it .. always heard stuff like that on it.Cousin was Hevay
into drugs at the time .. heheheeh

ahhhhh The 70's!

Webguide wrote:

> Goofy 1 wrote:
> >
> > WLPX started on Thanksgiving Day in the year of 1979? They played Rock &
> > roll wasn;'t this station #1 by Christmas??
> >
> > WZUU was that like top 40 tunes?
> >

> > You missed WZMF they played Like Hendrix and Patti Page style

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On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 Vacatio...@webtv.net wrote:

> Radio in Milwaukee today seems to be very boring, although I am


I am really wondering what would make radio in Milwaukee not "boring." We
had two format changes in the past month (WAMG -> WXSS; WLUM), two more a
year ago (WFMI -> WPNT, WLZR-AM -> WJYI), and off the top of my head
at least another three in the past 4 or 5 years (WQFM -> WJZI; WLUM; WEZW
-> WAMG).

I don't know that I'd call Milwaukee radio volatile or anything, but
there is definitely enough to keep it from falling into "boring." The two
changes in the past month are so wacked out by Milwaukee standrds that
should be entertaining enough to try predicting what song - or even what
genre - is going to be next.

I didn't want this to sound accusatory;I truly wonder what would make it
not "boring."

:)


Cybernanc

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>From: Goofy 1 <xgo...@ticon.net>

>It was my Cousin's Fav station .... It was actually like Menonimee Falls
>or whaichever menominees is enar Milwaukee.... They played Heavy Druggy
>type songs ... It was her Favorite it seemd this went <poof> When WLPX
>started.Or it may have been an underground Radio station.
>
>

It was advertised as underground music and it was "cool" to listen to WZMF even
if you didn't like the music! :-)

And yes, it was in Menomonee Falls.

PangK

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Now, who recalls the Milwaukee FM dial in 1964?

And the favorite FM radio personalities of
that time.


Webguide

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Goofy 1 wrote:
>
> The comment was their style if Music .. Like in Drug INduced stuff .. whatever
> you want to call it .. always heard stuff like that on it.Cousin was Hevay
> into drugs at the time .. heheheeh
>
> ahhhhh The 70's!
> ><><><><><<>><<><><><>><><<><><><><>><<>><><><><><><><<>>

Ah, yes...I understod the comment about their style of music. However,
Hendrix and Patti Page don't SHARE a style...and that's what I found
funny. They are as different as ...well...Hendrix and Patti Page! :-)
The thought of Milwaukee's having a station that played both as a
"style" just strikes me as humorous.

Stacy Alexander

<>><><><<><><><>><><<><><><><><>><><<>><<><>><<><><><><>><><

John G Dobnick

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From article <35ABEB8C...@ticon.net>, by Goofy 1 <xgo...@ticon.net>:

> It was my Cousin's Fav station .... It was actually like Menonimee Falls
> or whaichever menominees is enar Milwaukee.... They played Heavy Druggy
> type songs ... It was her Favorite it seemd this went <poof> When WLPX
> started.Or it may have been an underground Radio station.
>

Yup... WZMF,in Menomonee Falls. Back in the late 60's they
were an "Acid Rock" station.

Now, that transmitter broadcasts WFMR at 98.3. WFMR is our local
classical music station. It's moved around the dial quite a bit,
unfortunately. And every time it moves, it seems to get a
weaker signal. :-( :-(

Which reminds me -- no one has mentioned WFMR !! It used to
broadcasat from the top of an office building at 6th and Wisconsin.
(You took the elevator to the top floor, then walked up two more floors
into the tower.) This was back in the days when it was completely
non-commercial -- meaning they ran _NO_ commercials! Nice. *Very* nice!

The Menomonee Falls transmitter site seems particularly ill suited
for area coverage. I think it's at the bottom of a hollow which,
combined with a short tower and weak signal, makes for problematic
reception. Oh, and being sandwiched between two 50,000 watt stations
doesn't help matters, either.

--
John G Dobnick "Knowing how things work is the basis
Information & Media Technologies for appreciation, and is thus a
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee source of civilized delight."
j...@csd.uwm.edu ATTnet: (414) 229-5727 -- William Safire


Cybernanc

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>rom: pa...@aol.com (PangK)

>Now, who recalls the Milwaukee FM dial in 1964?

Was there FM in 1964? I only recall WOKY and WRIT on AM at that time, and Joe
Dorsey on WISN.

T-Bone

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Lancelot Link wrote:
>
> ZMF! Man, that brings back memories!
> [ snip!]
> ..., and wake up around 10:30 or 11:00 listening to Mozart's 5th, ...

You must mean Beethoven's 5th.

Nice tune and easy to dance to!

Yo / T-Bone

PangK

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>From: cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc)
>Newsgroups: milw.general


>Was there FM in 1964? I only recall WOKY and WRIT on AM at that time, and Joe
Dorsey on WISN.

Boo BAD memory Nancy. WRIT and WOKY were AM stations, and Joe Dorsey was on
WEMP AM. Anyone care to take a stab at FM in the 1963-65 era? What was the top
rated FM show in that time. Afternoon drive?

*The* Didaskalos

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j...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick) wrote to and milw.general:

== From article <35ABEB8C...@ticon.net>, by Goofy 1 <xgo...@ticon.net>:
== > It was my Cousin's Fav station .... It was actually like Menonimee Falls
== > or whaichever menominees is enar Milwaukee.... They played Heavy Druggy
== > type songs ... It was her Favorite it seemd this went <poof> When WLPX
== > started.Or it may have been an underground Radio station.
== >
==
== Yup... WZMF,in Menomonee Falls. Back in the late 60's they
== were an "Acid Rock" station.
==
== Now, that transmitter broadcasts WFMR at 98.3. WFMR is our local
== classical music station. It's moved around the dial quite a bit,
== unfortunately. And every time it moves, it seems to get a
== weaker signal. :-( :-(
==
== Which reminds me -- no one has mentioned WFMR !! It used to
== broadcasat from the top of an office building at 6th and Wisconsin.
== (You took the elevator to the top floor, then walked up two more floors
== into the tower.) This was back in the days when it was completely
== non-commercial -- meaning they ran _NO_ commercials! Nice. *Very* nice!
==
== The Menomonee Falls transmitter site seems particularly ill suited
== for area coverage. I think it's at the bottom of a hollow which,
== combined with a short tower and weak signal, makes for problematic
== reception. Oh, and being sandwiched between two 50,000 watt stations
== doesn't help matters, either.

I get excellent reception down on the lakefront. Maybe being on the
sixth floor helps.

Now I wish I could get better reception of WNIB/WNIZ from Zion, which
is what I listen to these days (and which is where Obie Yadgar has
gone).

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> I only recall WOKY and WRIT on AM

> Boo BAD memory Nancy. WRIT and WOKY were AM stations,

That's what I said! :-)

I said I didn't even remember FM being in existance at that time!!! Too busy
on those Top Ten stations!!!

Mark from Milwaukee

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Stacy Alexander wrote:

> bets? I usually head for the college radio stations. A lot of them are
> still playing experimental stuff - off the beaten path sort of music -
> world beat, alternative, folk, et al. I've found that college radio
> stations offer a wider variety of better music than most commercial ones
> do. Any good ones in Milwaukee?
>
> Stacy Alexander
>
> *)((**((((*)*()*()*()*()*()*)(*)()*(*)()*()(*)(*)(*)(*)*()(*

--

I'm a big fan of NPR (WUWM, WHAD), like the jazz on WYMS, but for sheer musical
variety, I don't think there is a station in town that can compete with 91.7 FM,
WMSE.

Other ideas?

=====
Mark from Milwaukee

Pagerijo

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What station had "Unlimited Jazz Ltd" or something to that effect?

alan carr

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That I can't answer. I didn't start listening to FM until Bob Reitman
started his radio career on Sunday nights on his first show, WUWM's
"It's All Right, Ma...It's Only Music." I remember the excitement of
discovering the "Hair" soundtrack, David Peel and the Lower East
Side's "Have A Marijuana" and the Dylan tracks that AM radio ignored
at the time. It was the only place to hear such things and a musical
epiphany for many, I suspect, including myself.

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Any opinions stated here are mine
and are not intended to reflect on
my ISPs, employers or anyone else.
To contact me personally use:


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From article <35ad3542...@news.alpha.net>, by thedid...@TAKEMEOUTTOTHEBALLGAMEhotmail.com (*The* Didaskalos):

> j...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick) wrote to and milw.general:
>
> == WFMR [...]
> == And every time it moves, it seems to get a

> == weaker signal. :-( :-(
>
> I get excellent reception down on the lakefront. Maybe being on the
> sixth floor helps.

Yes, that certainly won't hurt. Me? I'm at ground level (or below :-( ),
in a steel framed building. Heck, it's en _entirely_ steel building!
:-( :-(

I have no problem with reception at home though (SW part of Milwaukee).
Maybe it's my receiver -- I can pick up WFMT out of Chicago in _stereo_
with it -- with just your basic indoor dipole antenna. (Yes, it's a _good_
receiver.)

> Now I wish I could get better reception of WNIB/WNIZ from Zion, which
> is what I listen to these days (and which is where Obie Yadgar has
> gone).

So _that's_ where he's parking his camel nowadays, eh?

--
John G Dobnick "Knowing how things work is the basis

for appreciation, and is thus a

source of civilized delight."
j...@csd.uwm.edu -- William Safire

<my ham call> e l l s o u t h . n e t

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wrote:

>Now, that transmitter broadcasts WFMR at 98.3. WFMR is our local
>classical music station. It's moved around the dial quite a bit,
>unfortunately. And every time it moves, it seems to get a
>weaker signal. :-( :-(

I only thought it moved once? (it was originally what's now WKLH on
96.5)

>Which reminds me -- no one has mentioned WFMR !! It used to

>broadcasat from the top of an office building at 6th and Wisconsin.

>(You took the elevator to the top floor, then walked up two more floors

>into the tower.) This was back in the days when it was completely

>non-commercial -- meaning they ran _NO_ commercials! Nice. *Very* nice!

I'm sure if they ran no commercials, it wasn't on purpose! To the
best of my knowledge, WFMR (both as 96.5 and as 98.3) has always been
licensed as a commercial station. But just because the FCC says you
can sell ads doesn't mean advertisers have to buy any<G>...

>The Menomonee Falls transmitter site seems particularly ill suited

>for area coverage. I think it's at the bottom of a hollow which,

>combined with a short tower and weak signal, makes for problematic

>reception. Oh, and being sandwiched between two 50,000 watt stations

>doesn't help matters, either.

It's in a swamp a few miles southwest of downtown MF. It'd be a
fantastic site for an AM station... Really, it isn't horribly bad for
FM either, but as you say it suffers for its relatively low power &
tower. The station is licensed to Menomonee Falls, which means they
can't move the transmitter to the Capitol Drive antenna farm where so
many other stations are - and in general, they probably can't go too
far east of their current site without running afoul of Timmerman
Field.

Doug S.


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What *used* to be at 98.3? All I remember was their slogan "98.3. Just
below body temperature."

- --
*****************************************
Alan Carr
Any opinions stated here are mine
and are not intended to reflect on
my ISPs, employers or anyone else.
To contact me personally use:
alan...@uwm.edu
alan...@execpc.com
ICQ: 11110724
*****************************************

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>From article <35ABEB8C...@ticon.net>, by Goofy 1
<xgo...@ticon.net>:

<<snip>>


>Now, that transmitter broadcasts WFMR at 98.3. WFMR is our local
>classical music station. It's moved around the dial quite a bit,
>unfortunately. And every time it moves, it seems to get a
>weaker signal. :-( :-(

<<snip>>


>John G Dobnick "Knowing how things work is
the basis

>Information & Media Technologies for appreciation, and is
thus a
>University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee source of civilized
delight."


>j...@csd.uwm.edu ATTnet: (414) 229-5727 --
William Safire
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John G Dobnick

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From article <6ol6f7$egi$1...@uwm.edu>, by "alan carr" <alan...@uwm.edu>:

>
> What *used* to be at 98.3? All I remember was their slogan "98.3. Just
> below body temperature."

Don't know right off. It *may* have been WZMF, but I really don't recall
just where they were on the dial.


Cute slogan, though. :-)

--


John G Dobnick "Knowing how things work is the basis

for appreciation, and is thus a

source of civilized delight."
j...@csd.uwm.edu -- William Safire


John G Dobnick

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From article <35ae5c22...@news.bna.bellsouth.net>, by <my ham call> @ b e l l s o u t h . n e t (Doug Smith):

> On 15 Jul 1998 20:57:53 GMT, j...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick)
> wrote:
>>Now, that transmitter broadcasts WFMR at 98.3. WFMR is our local
>>classical music station. It's moved around the dial quite a bit,
>>unfortunately. And every time it moves, it seems to get a
>>weaker signal. :-( :-(
>
> I only thought it moved once? (it was originally what's now WKLH on
> 96.5)

It's moved twice that I know of. They used to be at 93.1 (I think -- it
was a *long* time ago), then moved to 96.5, and now 98.3.

The first frequency was when they broadcast from the "roof" of the
office building at 6th and Wisconsin. 96.5 was used when their
studios were on Capital Drive, with transmitter in Glendale, on the
Schlitz grain elevators. Now they're in the swamp (as you mention)
out in Menomonee Falls. (Still, the "swamp" seemed to be more
convenient for people to deliver chocolate chip cookies to Ron
Cuzner, though. :-) )

> I'm sure if they ran no commercials, it wasn't on purpose! To the
> best of my knowledge, WFMR (both as 96.5 and as 98.3) has always been
> licensed as a commercial station. But just because the FCC says you
> can sell ads doesn't mean advertisers have to buy any<G>...

That's the "new" WFMR. The "old" one really did _not_ run
commercials, and it was quite deliberate. The station was owned and
run for years by a "classical junkie". Why? Hobby, maybe. Or a
sense of civic duty. It certainly was not a profit center.

It finally got to cost too much. There was a period of "reduced
hours", followed by a period when they were off the air completely.
After public uproar, they came back on the air part-time (evenings
only, as I recall). However, their return was a shock, since they
were now running actual Madison Avenue (and therefore completely
obnoxious) commercials. (Think "Claire de Lune" followed immediately
by a loud, blaring, obnoxious cigarette commercial. Yuk!) But at
least Classical Music _was_ back on the air.

Goofy 1

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That's pretty close to where it would've been ... remember it was OLD slide
tunning bars ... neevr to perfect! hrherheheee

John G Dobnick wrote:

> From article <6ol6f7$egi$1...@uwm.edu>, by "alan carr" <alan...@uwm.edu>:
> >
> > What *used* to be at 98.3? All I remember was their slogan "98.3. Just
> > below body temperature."
>
> Don't know right off. It *may* have been WZMF, but I really don't recall
> just where they were on the dial.
>
> Cute slogan, though. :-)
>

Moe Munny

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PangK wrote:
>
> >From: cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc)
> >Newsgroups: milw.general
>
> >Was there FM in 1964? I only recall WOKY and WRIT on AM at that time, and Joe
> Dorsey on WISN.
>
> Boo BAD memory Nancy. WRIT and WOKY were AM stations, and Joe Dorsey was on
> WEMP AM. Anyone care to take a stab at FM in the 1963-65 era? What was the top
> rated FM show in that time. Afternoon drive?

I thought that there was no FM till about early 1970. I could be wrong.


Mo $$$

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"I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken!"

EJBecker

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Hey all...

Some mentioned 'ZMF... what about 'TOS? (Bob Reitman was on both...they were
way before my time, but I thought I'd bring it up...)

Someone wrote:

>Which reminds me -- no one has mentioned WFMR !! It used to
>broadcasat from the top of an office building at 6th and Wisconsin.
>(You took the elevator to the top floor, then walked up two more floors
>into the tower.) This was back in the days when it was completely
>non-commercial -- meaning they ran _NO_ commercials! Nice. *Very* nice!

Interesting story... 'FMR was on the "22nd floor" the wisconsin tower (606 W.
Wisconsin Ave.) and as far as a few years ago the 'FMR studios were still
intact, at least the walls... you had to go to the 21st floor (as far as the
elevator would take you) and then walk up the stairs (now armed with a fire
alarm) to get there... If memory serves correct, WQFM was chartered by one of
the FMR partners who wanted to have his own station... Hugo (I can't remeber
his last name...) he parted, got the 'QFM calls and the suite on the 21st floor
in '56 (where the studios stayed untill 1993). Hugo sold 'QFM to Shamrock in
1973 and Hugo committed suicide in the break room shortly thereafter... As a
'QFM alum (92-96), however, I miss the station and the most spectacular view of
downtown Milwaukee anyone has ever seen... Seeing that skyline and hanging out
on that ledge before you go on the air was the best...even if the studios were
a little lacking... beats the hell outta broadcasting out of a shoebox in the
'burbs....but I digress...

Ed Becker
WJZI/WLUM

PangK

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Gee nobody remembers Jonathan Green at TJ?

Or FM in the 60's????


Cybernanc

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>From: pa...@aol.com (PangK)
>Date: Fri, Jul 17, 1998 06:57 EDT

>Gee nobody remembers Jonathan Green at TJ?
>
>

Remembers? He's still there!


~~nancy~~
The above comments are the meant for entertainment purposes only and should
not be taken so seriously by the reader as to cause a psychotic reaction.
Thank you!

Dano Banano

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EJBecker wrote:
>
> Hugo sold 'QFM to Shamrock in 1973 and Hugo committed suicide in the
> break room shortly thereafter...

Is this true?! That musta been awful!


> As a 'QFM alum (92-96), however, I miss the station and the most
> spectacular view of downtown Milwaukee anyone has ever seen...
> Seeing that skyline and hanging out on that ledge before you go on the
> air was the best..

I remember the time that "Tim the Rock 'n Roll Animal" sat out on the
ledge for a couple of days and nights, until "The WHO" scheduled a show
in Milwaukee! That was cool! Tim was a nut!

Danno

*The* Didaskalos

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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At one point, there was a Colorado connection, and WFMR irritated a
lot of people by playing long tapes of recorded music (and repeating
them every few days). the Obie Yadgar crowd was in a terrible snit
over this canned music, but I found some very interesting and obscure
music I'd never heard before (Weber's Turandot, for example, which was
doubly interesting becaused of what Hindemith did with it.)

I quit WFMR permanently when the Washington DC crowd took over, and
"Waltz of the Flowers" became the most popular piece (of course Obie
Yadgar and his Pachelbel Canon got to be almost as bad).

I have recently listened a bit to WFMR, and it appears to me that the
Sony (?) Washington DC Waltz of the Flowers crap is no longer being
used, but I've grown so used to WNIB that, even with the noisy
reception, I haven't gone back to WFMR.

j...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick) wrote to and milw.general:

==
== It finally got to cost too much. There was a period of "reduced
== hours", followed by a period when they were off the air completely.
== After public uproar, they came back on the air part-time (evenings
== only, as I recall). However, their return was a shock, since they
== were now running actual Madison Avenue (and therefore completely
== obnoxious) commercials. (Think "Claire de Lune" followed immediately
== by a loud, blaring, obnoxious cigarette commercial. Yuk!) But at
== least Classical Music _was_ back on the air.
==
==
== --
== John G Dobnick "Knowing how things work is the basis
== for appreciation, and is thus a
== source of civilized delight."
== j...@csd.uwm.edu -- William Safire
==
==

PangK

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>From: cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc)
>Newsgroups: milw.general

>>Gee nobody remembers Jonathan Green at TJ?

>Remembers? He's still there!

He's back? He was in Florida for a while and then went out west somewhere. I
didn't know he was back. What time is he on?


Cybernanc

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>From: pa...@aol.com (PangK)

>>>Gee nobody remembers Jonathan Green at TJ?
>
>>Remembers? He's still there!
>
> He's back? He was in Florida for a while and then went out west somewhere.
>I
>didn't know he was back. What time is he on?

He's been back for years. Don't think he was out west anywhere. As far as I
know, he came back after only a short while in Florida. He's on WTMJ from
3-6pm.


~~nancy~~
The above comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should

PangK

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>From: cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc)
>Newsgroups: milw.general

>He's been back for years. Don't think he was out west anywhere. As far as I


know, he came back after only a short while in Florida. He's on WTMJ from
3-6pm.

Well I'll have to look the old fart up next time I am in town. Last I heard
he went to Arizona or someplace. Is he still as funny as he was?


Cybernanc

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>From: pa...@aol.com (PangK)

>Is he still as funny as he was?
>
>

re: Jonathan Green....

I dunno...I don't hear him that often, but he's teamed up with two other guys
now and they have toned down the silliness. Not as interesting a show now that
they seem to be trying to get a bit more serious.

DJK

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PangK wrote:
>
> >From: cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc)
> >Newsgroups: milw.general
>
> >>Gee nobody remembers Jonathan Green at TJ?
>
> >Remembers? He's still there!
>
> He's back? He was in Florida for a while and then went out west somewhere. I
> didn't know he was back. What time is he on?

You must have been somewhere!!! He's been back for over 20 years ...
heck, I moved away from Milwaukee twice during that time... and he's
STILL here when I got back!!!

DJK

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When the new format first started, it was like a bunch of guys sitting
around and shooting the breeze .. it has gotten bad, tho ... JG is
getting too political ... just a lot of GOP stuff starting to come out of
him ... he 'feigns' being nieve ... but it's just a joke!!!

I think he's lost his candid humor since his ratings rose

PangK

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>From: cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc)
>Newsgroups: milw.general

>re: Jonathan Green....


>
>I dunno...I don't hear him that often, but he's teamed up with two other guys
>now and they have toned down the silliness. Not as interesting a show now
>that
>they seem to be trying to get a bit more serious.

That's too bad. Jon was always frsh air on tightass TJ.

<my ham call> e l l s o u t h . n e t

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On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:32:52 -0500, "alan carr" <alan...@uwm.edu>
wrote:

>What *used* to be at 98.3? All I remember was their slogan "98.3. Just
>below body temperature."

Before WZMF? Nothing. They built it new in 1966. It did operate as
a middle-of-the-road station (kinda like WTMJ!) for its first two
years before going rock.

Doug S.


<my ham call> e l l s o u t h . n e t

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On 17 Jul 1998 08:12:32 GMT, ejbe...@aol.com (EJBecker) wrote:
>Some mentioned 'ZMF... what about 'TOS? (Bob Reitman was on both...they were
>way before my time, but I thought I'd bring it up...)

Discovered rock just about in time for 'TOS to go do something else...
(it *was* 103.7, right?)

Doug S.


Cybernanc

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>From: DJK <d...@mixcom.com>

>JG is
>getting too political ... just a lot of GOP stuff starting to come out of
>him .

GOP stuff? You mean like common sense, and non-PC, non-liberal stuff, right?
;-) Nothing wrong with THAT!

<my ham call> e l l s o u t h . n e t

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On 16 Jul 1998 18:35:21 GMT, j...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick)
wrote:

> It's moved twice that I know of. They used to be at 93.1 (I think -- it
> was a *long* time ago), then moved to 96.5, and now 98.3.
>
> The first frequency was when they broadcast from the "roof" of the
> office building at 6th and Wisconsin. 96.5 was used when their
> studios were on Capital Drive, with transmitter in Glendale, on the
> Schlitz grain elevators. Now they're in the swamp (as you mention)
> out in Menomonee Falls. (Still, the "swamp" seemed to be more
> convenient for people to deliver chocolate chip cookies to Ron
> Cuzner, though. :-) )
> That's the "new" WFMR. The "old" one really did _not_ run
> commercials, and it was quite deliberate. The station was owned and
> run for years by a "classical junkie". Why? Hobby, maybe. Or a
> sense of civic duty. It certainly was not a profit center.

Interesting. Never heard of the 93.x implementation. (it couldn't
have been 93.1 as that channel's been in use in Chicago forever, but I
would believe 93.3. WTMJ-FM (now WKTI) originally used that channel
but gave it up in the mid- or late-50s & I could certainly believe
someone else took it over for a classical outlet. )

Some underground rock stations were known to refuse pre-recorded
commercials; they would air only ads read by their own DJs. The idea
being to avoid just that kind of jarring change in tone. I'm sure
other classical stations had the same idea.

Doug S.


<my ham call> e l l s o u t h . n e t

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On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:06:14 -0500, Moe Munny <mmu...@bunchabukz.com>
wrote:

>I thought that there was no FM till about early 1970. I could be wrong.

W55M on 45.5MHz was one of the earliest FM stations in the country, in
1940. It became WTMJ-FM on 93.3 after WW2, but was shut down in the
mid- or late-50s. (as were hundreds of other FM stations across the
country; FM hadn't proven nearly as popular as radio executives
expected.)

Most Milwaukee FM stations now operating signed on sometime between
1958 and 1962. Some of the non-commercial stations below 92MHz are
newer; WFMR is the newest of the commercial operations having started
in 1966. 106.1 was off the air for over 10 years, but is
theoretically the same station that started as WAUK-FM in 1962.

Doug S.


Bobby Magee

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Cybernanc wrote:
>
> >From: DJK <d...@mixcom.com>
>
> >JG is
> >getting too political ... just a lot of GOP stuff starting to come out of
> >him .
>
> GOP stuff? You mean like common sense, and non-PC, non-liberal stuff, right?
> ;-) Nothing wrong with THAT!
>

The only thing that is "Commen Sense" about Conservatism and the GOP,
(which stands for "Goofy Old-time Politics), is its simple shallow
nature. To the GOP life is simple and uncomplicated.

They attatch their own meaning to things that are said and done, (i.e.
"If he's "For" the environmental movement, he HAS to be "Against"
business, meaning that he's also against Capitalism, which means that he
MUST be "Un-American, and therefore a "Traitor"!!)

Everything is *Cut & Dried*, ("If he says 'This', he MUST mean 'That!).

Simple "Common Sense"! Who needs all those bothersome facts and the
nuisance of all that complicated 'data'. Simple minds are usually
conservatives! Deeper thinkers are generally considered "liberal"
whether they are actually "liberal" or not.

So here's the litmus test:
If you are confused about an issue, it HAS to be a LIBERAL stand on that
issue!
If you find yourself saying, "Hey wait a minute, what about so & so,
you've just heard the conservative side of the same issue.

Cybernanc

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>From: Bobby Magee <bma...@mississippi.com>

>Simple minds are usually
>conservatives! Deeper thinkers are generally considered "liberal"
>whether they are actually "liberal" or not.

I'm STILL laughin' about THIS one!!! Liberals are "deep" but not necessarily
in the thinking department.

Ronald J Friedel

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In article <199807192112...@ladder01.news.aol.com> cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc) writes:
>>From: Bobby Magee <bma...@mississippi.com>
>
>>Simple minds are usually
>>conservatives! Deeper thinkers are generally considered "liberal"
>>whether they are actually "liberal" or not.
>
>I'm STILL laughin' about THIS one!!! Liberals are "deep" but not necessarily
>in the thinking department.
>
>
>~~nancy~~

Nancy, lets' think a little bit about how the Conservatives think through
issues. (I don't know where you stand on this issue yourself.)

The $400+ million Miller Park was promoted by a self-proclaimed
Conservative Republician, Tommy Thompson. Every business magazine I've
read that has articles about public financing of baseball stadiums says
that they are a very bad financial investment in the communitys. Forbes
Magazine was one of those who gave a less than glowing report. The only
positive thing about the stadium is that we feel good about ourselves,
we're a major league city. But, $400 million is a lot of taxes especially
from the Conservatives who hate taxes. Yet, many people, listening to
Mark and Charley, and yes, Jon Green, called their representatives and
demanded that they vote for the stadium because they were told to do this
by Governor Thompson. People didn't think for themselves, they just did
what they were told to do.

Another thing. I actually rode out to Watertown on the train a couple of
times as a recreational trip when Amtrack was running these trips. The
Conservatives are all gearing up to kill the train. Why is my recreation
less deserving of support than those people going to a ball games?
Why should the State support Derry's Pub in Milwaukee, near the stadium,
and refuse to support Mel's Diner in Oconomowoc? Both businesses get a
boost in income from a nearby attraction. In fact, if I were a small
business owner in Waukesha County that couldn't afford to pay high wages,
I'd be promoting alternative transportation.

It does seem that Conservatives don't think for themselves, they just do
as they are told by their leaders.

Ron Friedel
--
Ron Friedel
GeoSciences UW-Milwaukee
r...@friedel.org


Cybernanc

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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>From: rfri...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Ronald J Friedel)

>People didn't think for themselves, they just did
>what they were told to do.
>
>

Oh puhleeze........

>It does seem that Conservatives don't think for themselves, they just do
>as they are told by their leaders.

And again, puhleeze.

Frankly, in my opinion, it's the bleeding-heart liberals who don't think things
all the way through.....they vote for something because it sounds "good"
without thinking out all the ramifications. For example, the "big" thing for
Democratic candidates for governor now is "cutting taxes" but they fail to
mention that to cut taxes, they will have to cut government spending, which
means cutting government handouts, programs, etc etc. It's the liberals with
their heads in the utopian clouds wishing things could be the way they'd like
them to be without putting their feet back on the ground and seeing reality.

Mark A. Bialik

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In article <6otqpp$73a$1...@uwm.edu>, rfri...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Ronald J Friedel) wrote:

>It does seem that Conservatives don't think for themselves, they just do
>as they are told by their leaders.

Oh, God.

Let's take an introductory class here, so we can hold a half-way intellectual
discussion. Eduacted at UWM by any chance?

Mark


Ronald J Friedel

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Mark,

My original questions and comments were intended to create some discussion
on this issue. Earlier in this thread someone claiming to be a Liberal
accused Conservatives of not thinking through the consequences of various
legislative ideas. So far, rather than a discussion, I've received a
reply from Nancy that was just stereotypical sloganeering and a put down
from you.

Ron

P.S. It is spelled educated, not eduacted. Where did you go to school?

Lisa Labuz

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
to Mark from Milwaukee
On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Mark from Milwaukee wrote:

> Stacy Alexander wrote:
>
> > bets? I usually head for the college radio stations. A lot of them are
> > still playing experimental stuff - off the beaten path sort of music -
> > world beat, alternative, folk, et al. I've found that college radio
> > stations offer a wider variety of better music than most commercial ones
> > do. Any good ones in Milwaukee?
> >
> > Stacy Alexander
> >
> > *)((**((((*)*()*()*()*()*()*)(*)()*(*)()*()(*)(*)(*)(*)*()(*
>
> --
>
> I'm a big fan of NPR (WUWM, WHAD), like the jazz on WYMS, but for sheer musical
> variety, I don't think there is a station in town that can compete with 91.7 FM,
> WMSE.

LOVE WMSE!

>
> Other ideas?
>
> =====
> Mark from Milwaukee
>
>

Cybernanc

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>From: rfri...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Ronald J Friedel)

> So far, rather than a discussion, I've received a


>reply from Nancy that was just stereotypical sloganeering

Huh? What you stated is "sloganeering" or rather "propaganda"....the thought
that every Conservative does exactly what it's "leaders" (whoever THEY might
be!!!) tell them to is absolutely ludicrous.

I'm a Conservative, but I voted AGAINST Miller Park......if the Brewers ( a
private business) want to build a new stadium, let THEM pay for it...not
citizens who will never use it. Gee....wonder which Conservative leader told
me to say THAT!!! :-)

> So far, rather than a discussion, I've received a
>reply from Nancy that was just stereotypical sloganeering

Webguide

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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Cybernanc wrote:
>
> >From: rfri...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Ronald J Friedel)
>
> >People didn't think for themselves, they just did
> >what they were told to do.
> >
> >
>
> Oh puhleeze........
>
> >It does seem that Conservatives don't think for themselves, they just do
> >as they are told by their leaders.
>
> And again, puhleeze.
>
> Frankly, in my opinion, it's the bleeding-heart liberals who don't think things all the way through.....they vote for something because it sounds "good" without thinking out all the ramifications. For example, the "big" thing for Democratic candidates for governor now is "cutting taxes" but they fail to mention that to cut taxes, they will have to cut government spending, which
> means cutting government handouts, programs, etc etc. It's the liberals with their heads in the utopian clouds wishing things could be the way they'd like them to be without putting their feet back on the ground and seeing reality.
>
> ~~nancy~~

I disagree with you beginning with your derrogatory and unkind "bleeding
heart" terminology used to describe people who have a strong interest in
human rights issues, I don't know. Is that "Christian-like" ? Cutting
taxes does not necessarily have the negative rammifications that you
mentioned above. It does not necessarily eleminate programs for the
poor, for example, it simply redirects them to the private sector. Is
that so bad? Less government spending places more power in the hands of
the people, so it would seem.

Stacy Alexander

><<>><<><><><><><><><><><><><><>><<>><><><><><><><><<>><><><

Cybernanc

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>From: Webguide <webg...@javanet.com>

>It does not necessarily eleminate programs for the
>poor, for example, it simply redirects them to the private sector.

What private sector would that be Stacy? Has this been done recently by the
Democrats? Actually, what you've described is what the Republicans have been
advocating!

>Less government spending places more power in the hands of
>the people, so it would seem.

Yes, another Republican premise. You give more money to the people, who put
more money back into the economy.

Gee, Stacy, we'll have you converted in no time!!! :-)

*The* Didaskalos

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mbi...@infinityhealthcare.com (Mark A. Bialik) wrote to and
milw.general:

== In article <6otqpp$73a$1...@uwm.edu>, rfri...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Ronald J Friedel) wrote:
==
== >It does seem that Conservatives don't think for themselves, they just do
== >as they are told by their leaders.
==
== Oh, God.
==
== Let's take an introductory class here, so we can hold a half-way intellectual
== discussion. Eduacted at UWM by any chance?
==
== Mark

Most Conservatives I've encountered are unthinking parrots, generally
giving the impression of being in the lower IQ range, who are
manipulated by hypocritical Conservative leaders with ulterior
motives.

You can see this in all the Conservative propaganda.

For example, a bill to reform welfare is not a "Welfare Reform Bill,"
but a "Personal Responsibility Bill."

It's all propaganda, and Conservative nuts fall for it and squawk it
like parrots. I've seldom seen anything approaching an original
thought by a "Conservative," nor even the stock "Conservative" ideas
put in their own words. It's as if they have a copy of the Wall Street
Journal in front of them when they're typing, so they can copy the
blather correctly.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Our thought for the day, a lesson from history:

Nazi support of Conservative Christianity is shown in this quote
of Heinrich Himmler, murderer of 6 million Jews and Gays:

"Christianity was and is the most outstanding protest of
the Aryans against Jewry, of good against evil."

--Heinrich Himmler, booklist note made in 1924 after
reading Ernest Renan's "Das Leben Jesu."

(Himmler believed Jesus was the illegitimate son of a
Roman Centurion, and therefore not Jewish, but Aryan.)

*The* Didaskalos

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rfri...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Ronald J Friedel) wrote to and
milw.general:

== In article <6oued9$csi$1...@news3.alpha.net> mbi...@infinityhealthcare.com (Mark A. Bialik) writes:
== >In article <6otqpp$73a$1...@uwm.edu>, rfri...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Ronald J Friedel) wrote:
== >
== >>It does seem that Conservatives don't think for themselves, they just do
== >>as they are told by their leaders.
== >
== >Oh, God.
== >
== >Let's take an introductory class here, so we can hold a half-way intellectual
== >discussion. Eduacted at UWM by any chance?
== >
== >Mark

==
== Mark,
==
== My original questions and comments were intended to create some discussion
== on this issue. Earlier in this thread someone claiming to be a Liberal
== accused Conservatives of not thinking through the consequences of various
== legislative ideas.

That's not an accusation, but a proved fact. State Republican Alberta
Darling, for example, has at least two laws she's having to revise
because they were so ill thought out -- the products of hysterical
over-reaction rooted entirely in emotion.

Tommy Thompson's "truth in sentencing" is another one. Just wait, and
remember there have been plenty of people warning about who will have
every right to say "we told you so."

== So far, rather than a discussion, I've received a
== reply from Nancy that was just stereotypical sloganeering and a put down
== from you.
==
== Ron
==
== P.S. It is spelled educated, not eduacted. Where did you go to school?
==
==
==
== --
== Ron Friedel
== GeoSciences UW-Milwaukee
== r...@friedel.org
==

*The* Didaskalos

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cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc) wrote to and milw.general:

== >From: rfri...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Ronald J Friedel)
==

== > So far, rather than a discussion, I've received a
== >reply from Nancy that was just stereotypical sloganeering

==
== Huh? What you stated is "sloganeering" or rather "propaganda"....the thought
== that every Conservative does exactly what it's "leaders" (whoever THEY might
== be!!!) tell them to is absolutely ludicrous.
==
== I'm a Conservative, but I voted AGAINST Miller Park......if the Brewers ( a

For that, I'd be inclined to say that you're a Conservative who's
slightly less hypocritical than the average Conservative, but I'm sure
that if an issue came up where some government money could find its
way into *your* pocket, your hypocrisy would peek its nose out from
under your whatever, and you wouldn't refuse it.

*The* Didaskalos

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Webguide <webg...@javanet.com> wrote to and milw.general:

== Cybernanc wrote:
== > Frankly, in my opinion, it's the bleeding-heart liberals who don't think things all the way through.....they vote for something because it sounds "good" without thinking out all the ramifications. For example, the "big" thing for Democratic candidates for governor now is "cutting taxes" but they fail to mention that to cut taxes, they will have to cut government spending, which
== > means cutting government handouts, programs, etc etc. It's the liberals with their heads in the utopian clouds wishing things could be the way they'd like them to be without putting their feet back on the ground and seeing reality.
== >
== > ~~nancy~~
==
== I disagree with you beginning with your derrogatory and unkind "bleeding
== heart" terminology used to describe people who have a strong interest in
== human rights issues, I don't know. Is that "Christian-like" ?

Actually it's anti-Catholic.

Catholics have a lot of statues with bleeding hearts on them.

OOBLEO

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>Now, who recalls the Milwaukee FM dial in 1964?

WYLO (way-low on the dial) and the old polka king--don't remember his name.

OOBLEO

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>I thought that there was no FM till about early 1970. I could be wrong.
>
>

I believe WTMJ-FM (now WKTI) was the first licensed FM station in the
Milwaukee market --circa 1960.

PangK

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>From: oob...@aol.com (OOBLEO)
>Newsgroups: milw.general

>>Now, who recalls the Milwaukee FM dial in 1964?
>
>WYLO (way-low on the dial) and the old polka king--don't remember his name.

WYLO was AM in some small town. 540???
Geez, NOBODY knows Milwaukee radio history. In 1963-64 Milwaukee had the FIRST
FM station in the country to actually TIE for a #1 rating in afternoon drive
time. Was tied with WTMJ AM.


PangK

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>From: oob...@aol.com (OOBLEO)

>>I thought that there was no FM till about early 1970. I could be wrong.

>I believe WTMJ-FM (now WKTI) was the first licensed FM station in the
>Milwaukee market --circa 1960.

Well no, WTMJ FM goes back to the
pre-WW-2 era and came back in the early 50's
on FM. It became I-94, WKTI in the early 70's.

Cybernanc

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>From: thedid...@TAKEMEIMYOURSNOTYOUSILLYhotmail.com (*The* Didaskalos)

> I'm sure
>that if an issue came up where some government money could find its
>way into *your* pocket, your hypocrisy would peek its nose out from
>under your whatever, and you wouldn't refuse it.

You can't be sure of anything. You don't own me. You've just chosen to
pigeonhole me into what you think Conservatives are like. You've stereotyped
Conservatives. You're a bigot and a Conservativephobe by your own definition!


~~nancy~~
Mike Hardware was the kind of private eye who didn't know the meaning
of the word "fear," a man who could laugh in the face of danger and
spit in the eye of death -- in short, a moron with suicidal tendencies.
--- Eddie Lawhorn, AL


John G Dobnick

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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From article <199807211021...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, by oob...@aol.com (OOBLEO):

>>Now, who recalls the Milwaukee FM dial in 1964?
>
> WYLO (way-low on the dial) and the old polka king--don't remember his name.

Hmmm.... Polka King, eh?

I don't recall if he was ever on FM, but the old AM station, WMIL,
carried Fritz the Plumber. Polka music to come out of your ears,
so to speak.

--
John G Dobnick "Knowing how things work is the basis
Information & Media Technologies for appreciation, and is thus a
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee source of civilized delight."
j...@csd.uwm.edu ATTnet: (414) 229-5727 -- William Safire

<my ham call> e l l s o u t h . n e t

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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On 21 Jul 1998 10:23:56 GMT, oob...@aol.com (OOBLEO) wrote:
>I believe WTMJ-FM (now WKTI) was the first licensed FM station in the
>Milwaukee market --circa 1960.

WTMJ-FM was first, as W55M before WW2, but there was a "silent period"
when they gave up on FM for awhile.

The first Milwaukee-area FM station that's operated continuously is
WHAD 90.7, which dates back to 1948.

Doug S.

alan carr

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PangK

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>From: "alan carr" <alan...@uwm.edu>
>Newsgroups: milw.general

>Ya, hey, dat dere Fritz da Plumber was truly da king a Sout Side, aina?

Actually since most of his gig was in German, wouldn't that have been the
North side Alan?


*The* Didaskalos

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc) wrote to and milw.general:

== >From: thedid...@TAKEMEIMYOURSNOTYOUSILLYhotmail.com (*The* Didaskalos)
==
== > I'm sure
== >that if an issue came up where some government money could find its
== >way into *your* pocket, your hypocrisy would peek its nose out from
== >under your whatever, and you wouldn't refuse it.
==
== You can't be sure of anything. You don't own me. You've just chosen to
== pigeonhole me into what you think Conservatives are like. You've stereotyped
== Conservatives. You're a bigot and a Conservativephobe by your own definition!
==

Well, I could call you a Liberalphobe, but I'm not a 9-year-old upset
because I can't play my hymn at the Christman party (boo hoo).


"A woman must learn in silence and be completely submissive.
I do not permit a woman to act as teacher
or in any way to have authority over a man;
she must be quiet."
--St. Paul instructing Timothy, 1Tim2:11f.
"All they that take the bible shall perish by the bible."

Ye shall know the truth -- *The* Didaskalos

http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/village/1360


*The* Didaskalos

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j...@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick) wrote to and milw.general:

== From article <199807211021...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, by oob...@aol.com (OOBLEO):
== >>Now, who recalls the Milwaukee FM dial in 1964?
== >
== > WYLO (way-low on the dial) and the old polka king--don't remember his name.
==
== Hmmm.... Polka King, eh?
==
== I don't recall if he was ever on FM, but the old AM station, WMIL,
== carried Fritz the Plumber. Polka music to come out of your ears,
== so to speak.

Come out of your ears?

Yeah, I guess Fritz the Plumber was pretty good at unclogging drains.

(I suppose I should add a :) after that.)


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Our thought for the day, a lesson from history:

While mass murder and genocide expert Heinrich Himmler was a
devout Roman Catholic into his twenties, he became alienated
from the church by the 1930s. His complaint against the
Catholic Church was that it was allegedly run by homosexuals,
and that they were responsible for anti-female teachings and
practices in the church which were causing some German men to
adopt homosexual practices.

*The* Didaskalos

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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pa...@aol.com (PangK) wrote to and milw.general:

== >From: "alan carr" <alan...@uwm.edu>
== >Newsgroups: milw.general
==
== >Ya, hey, dat dere Fritz da Plumber was truly da king a Sout Side, aina?
==
== Actually since most of his gig was in German, wouldn't that have been the
== North side Alan?
==

Here's one difference between Didaskalos and Pangbreath:
I thought of Fritz's German too, and was going to comment, but I
decided not to say anything, since it's not too important (unlike
other issues here) and I didn't want to contradict alan publicly.


"A Pangbreath must learn in silence and be completely submissive.
I do not permit a Pangbreath to act as teacher

W.C. Fields

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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Cybernanc wrote:
>
> >From: rfri...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Ronald J Friedel)
>
> >People didn't think for themselves, they just did
> >what they were told to do.

Cybernanc answers:
>
> Oh puhleeze........

> Ronald J Friedel added:


> >
> > It does seem that Conservatives don't think for themselves, they

> > just do as they are told by their leaders.

Cybernanc again answers:
>
> And again, puhleeze.


>
> Frankly, in my opinion, it's the bleeding-heart liberals who don't
> think things all the way through...

This is the comments of a right-winger who thinks on her own and came up
with this cleverly original name, "the bleeding-heart liberals", all by
her little self!

Ain't she special?!

WCF

W.C. Fields

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
to
Cybernanc wrote:
>
> You can't be sure of anything. You don't own me. You've just chosen to
> pigeonhole me into what you think Conservatives are like. You've
> stereotyped Conservatives.
>
> You're a bigot and a Conservativephobe by your own definition!

This is prime: "a bigot and a Conservativephobe"!

I guess she should have added the term "Nancyphobe", implying a fear
that she might say something intelligent, or that one person with a
brain might actually listen to her babbling bullshit!

And I thought that I was the comedian!

W.C. Fields

W.C. Fields

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
to
PangK wrote:
>
> >From: "alan carr" <alan...@uwm.edu>
> >Newsgroups: milw.general
>
> >Ya, hey, dat dere Fritz da Plumber was truly da king a Sout Side, aina?
>
> Actually since most of his gig was in German, wouldn't that have been the
> North side Alan?

No that would have been "African"!

W.C. Fields

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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*The* Didaskalos wrote:
>
> cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc) wrote to and milw.general:
>
> == >From: thedid...@TAKEMEIMYOURSNOTYOUSILLYhotmail.com (*The* Didaskalos)
> ==
> == > I'm sure
> == >that if an issue came up where some government money could find its
> == >way into *your* pocket, your hypocrisy would peek its nose out from
> == >under your whatever, and you wouldn't refuse it.
> ==
> == You can't be sure of anything. You don't own me. You've just chosen to
> == pigeonhole me into what you think Conservatives are like. You've stereotyped
> == Conservatives. You're a bigot and a Conservativephobe by your own definition!
> ==
>
> Well, I could call you a Liberalphobe, but I'm not a 9-year-old upset
> because I can't play my hymn at the Christman party (boo hoo).


A strange new PC phenomenon has emerged as of late.
If you don't like something, you are automatically labeled a
"whatever-it-is-you-don't-like-"PHOBE".

Makes it easy for people who with no thinking ability to find a snappy
come-back to an argument!

WCF

W.C. Fields

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
to
PangK wrote:
>
> >From: oob...@aol.com (OOBLEO)
> >Newsgroups: milw.general
>
> >>Now, who recalls the Milwaukee FM dial in 1964?
> >
> >WYLO (way-low on the dial) and the old polka king--don't remember his name.
>
> WYLO was AM in some small town. 540???
> Geez, NOBODY knows Milwaukee radio history. In 1963-64 Milwaukee had the FIRST
> FM station in the country to actually TIE for a #1 rating in afternoon drive
> time. Was tied with WTMJ AM.

I guess you must be the only 95 year old loser who frequents this
newsgroup and remembers the last millenium!

Did you know any of the Roman Emperors personally?

WCF

Cybernanc

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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>From: "W.C. Fields" <wcfi...@execpc.com>

>I guess she should have added the term "Nancyphobe", implying a fear
>that she might say something intelligent, or that one person with a
>brain might actually listen to her babbling bullshit!

Hey Disc, you're gonna have to do better with your answers or that anonymous
remailer isn't going to hide your identity very long!!!

Cybernanc

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
to
>From: "W.C. Fields" <wcfi...@execpc.com>

>This is the comments of a right-winger who thinks on her own and came up
>with this cleverly original name, "the bleeding-heart liberals", all by
>her little self!
>
>Ain't she special?!

My family thinks so Disc!

Cybernanc

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
to
>From: "W.C. Fields" <wcfi...@execpc.com>

>A strange new PC phenomenon has emerged as of late.
>If you don't like something, you are automatically labeled a
>"whatever-it-is-you-don't-like-"PHOBE".
>
>

Yup, started by the LIBERALS with the term "homophobe" for anyone who doesn't
embrace homosexuality with open arms.

Cybernanc

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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>From: "W.C. Fields" <wcfi...@execpc.com>

>> Actually since most of his gig was in German, wouldn't that have been
>the
>> North side Alan?
>
>No that would have been "African"!

Talk about a bigotted statement!!! Whew!!!

Also not terribly intelligent...as the North Side in the late 50's and early
60's was very heavily German......

PangK

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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>From: "W.C. Fields" <wcfi...@execpc.com>
>Newsgroups: milw.general

>FIRST
>> FM station in the country to actually TIE for a #1 rating in afternoon
>drive
>> time. Was tied with WTMJ AM.

>
>I guess you must be the only 95 year old loser who frequents this
>newsgroup and remembers the last millenium!

Yeah 1964 was so LONG ago, probably 30 years before you were born.


W.C. Fields

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Jul 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/23/98
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Cybernanc wrote:
>
> >From: "W.C. Fields" <wcfi...@execpc.com>
>
> >I guess she should have added the term "Nancyphobe", implying a fear
> >that she might say something intelligent, or that one person with a
> >brain might actually listen to her babbling bullshit!
>
> Hey Disc, you're gonna have to do better with your answers or that anonymous
> remailer isn't going to hide your identity very long!!!
>

Lady, I ain't even got the remotest clue as to what you are babbling
about. What is "Disc", some back ailment?

I just noticed how your Know-It-All posts to almost every thread are
pretty irritating.

You're really full of yourself, aren't you. Do you collect your own
autograph? Do you have a bunch of pictures of yourself? You seem like
the type, "better than everybody else". You must feel as though you
grace us all with your presence here.

How do you view your monitor with your nose in the air like that?
Suggestion; try strapping your monitor to the ceiling, if it's not
already there.


WCF

Cybernanc

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Jul 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/23/98
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>From: "W.C. Fields" <wcfi...@execpc.com>

>Lady, I ain't even got the remotest clue as to what you are babbling
>about. What is "Disc", some back ailment?

Actually, it's a little further down than the back....right around the
buttcrack.

Nice try though Disc...this line gave you away (other than your relentless
attempts at annoying me and only me on this ng....)

> You seem like
>the type, "better than everybody else".

You've said this many times before!

Hey...where'd you get the anonymous remailer Disc? I'd like to look into
getting one so I can sign on as DHof...@Tootsie.com

Window Washer 95

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
to
Cybernanc wrote:
>
> Nice try though Disc...this line gave you away (other than your relentless
> attempts at annoying me and only me on this ng....)
>
> > You seem like
> >the type, "better than everybody else".
>
> You've said this many times before!
>
> Hey...where'd you get the anonymous remailer Disc? I'd like to look into
> getting one so I can sign on as DHof...@Tootsie.com
>
> ~~nancy~~

WCF was right when he said:

> You're really full of yourself, aren't you. Do you collect your own
> autograph? Do you have a bunch of pictures of yourself? You seem like
> the type, "better than everybody else". You must feel as though you
> grace us all with your presence here.

Cybernanc so full of herself, she thinks that people here like her so
much that anyone who thinks she's "irritating" is "Disc"!

Must be?!

WinWash95

Fried Coconut

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
to
W.C. Fields wrote:
>
> Cybernanc wrote:
> >
> > >From: "W.C. Fields" <wcfi...@execpc.com>
> >
> > >I guess she should have added the term "Nancyphobe", implying a fear
> > >that she might say something intelligent, or that one person with a
> > >brain might actually listen to her babbling bullshit!
> >
> > Hey Disc, you're gonna have to do better with your answers or that anonymous
> > remailer isn't going to hide your identity very long!!!
> >
>
> Lady, I ain't even got the remotest clue as to what you are babbling
> about. What is "Disc", some back ailment?
>
> I just noticed how your Know-It-All posts to almost every thread are
> pretty irritating.
>
> You're really full of yourself, aren't you. Do you collect your own
> autograph? Do you have a bunch of pictures of yourself? You seem like
> the type, "better than everybody else". You must feel as though you
> grace us all with your presence here.
>
> How do you view your monitor with your nose in the air like that?
> Suggestion; try strapping your monitor to the ceiling, if it's not
> already there.
>
> WCF

Will, I told ya that old chick sucked! She could use a good spanking!

Cybernanc

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
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>From: Window Washer 95 <winw...@squeegee.net>

>Cybernanc so full of herself, she thinks that people here like her so
>much that anyone who thinks she's "irritating" is "Disc"!
>
>Must be?!
>
>WinWash95

Hey Dipstick, changing your name every other day doesn't hide the fact that you
are still Disc and still are harrassing me. I'm really flattered that you
can't get me off your mind, but save yourself the trouble. Nobody else in
interested and least of all ME!

Have a GREAT day!!!

Cybernanc

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
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>From: Fried Coconut <frd...@bongsrus.net>

>Will, I told ya that old chick sucked! She could use a good spanking!

Nobody is interested in your sex life Disc...give it a rest.

Having friends in high places at Execpc really pays off! ;-)

ultim...@my-dejanews.com

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
to
In article <199807180326...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc) wrote:

> re: Jonathan Green....
>
> I dunno...I don't hear him that often, but he's teamed up with two other guys
> now and they have toned down the silliness. Not as interesting a show now
that
> they seem to be trying to get a bit more serious.

...ironic, since one of the other guys is Phil Cianciola, who used to help Don
Vogel get silly on WISN...


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Cybernanc

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>From: ultim...@my-dejanews.com

>...ironic, since one of the other guys is Phil Cianciola, who used to help
>Don
>Vogel get silly on WISN...

Phil seems to be the smartest of the bunch...like listening to him!

*The* Didaskalos

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98
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Fried Coconut <frd...@bongsrus.net> wrote to and milw.general:

== > Cybernanc wrote:
Quotes jumbled, don't assume any particular thing is from any
particular author.

== > > >I guess she should have added the term "Nancyphobe", implying a fear
== > > Hey Disc, you're gonna have to do better with your answers or that anonymous
== > > remailer isn't going to hide your identity very long!!!
== >
== > You're really full of yourself, aren't you. Do you collect your own
== > autograph? Do you have a bunch of pictures of yourself? You seem like

Checkout her website. It's probably members.aol.com/cybernanc or
somehting like that.

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Our thought for the day, a lesson from history:

"All members of the SS and police must be in the forefront of
the fight to eliminate homosexuality from the German people."

-- Heinrich Himmler, March 7, 1942 Memorandum.
(Imperial War Museum, London, H/6/165)

ultim...@my-dejanews.com

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98
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In article <199807242124...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

cybe...@aol.com (Cybernanc) wrote:
> >From: ultim...@my-dejanews.com
>
> >...ironic, since one of the other guys is Phil Cianciola, who used to help
> >Don
> >Vogel get silly on WISN...
>
> Phil seems to be the smartest of the bunch...like listening to him!

...well, hanging around Vogel automatically raised the IQ a few
points...hanging around Belling, on the other hand, causes brain cancer :-)

Molly Hatchet

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Jul 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/29/98
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ultim...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> ...hanging around Belling, on the other hand, causes brain cancer :-)

... not to mention Acne, Halitosis, Toe Nail Fungus and Jock Itch!

Molly

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