MIL-STD 2525 or something else? and Where?

[Sean]

Does anyone here know where's the best source of symbols for the
DoD?

I found the standard in a pdf and the symbols in a ppt. But there has
to be an official site to get the symbols, preferrably in SVG format,
right?

This forum mentions it:
http://discussions.sisostds.org/threadview.aspx?fid=31&threadid=49220

This website has symbols, but not comprehensive and based on the NATO
standard, which is kinda a subset of 2525C.
http://www.mapsymbs.com/

Here's some. You should be able to figure it out and iterate to get
them all.
http://www.stackframe.com/SymbolFactory/symbols

This one seems to be the most comprehensive, but I didn't get very far
as the site doesn't seem to have been maintained since 2006.
http://home.hiwaay.net/~georgech/Standards/warrior_symbology.htm

Thanks, Sean

[Thoma...@gtri.gatech.edu]

I don't know of any "official" government site, but the following
resources are available:

* MapSymbs (http://www.mapsymbs.com/maphome.html) is a freeware set of
standard NATO APP-6A military map marking symbols inside a TureType font

* MapServer (http://mapserver.org/) is an open source (MIT license)
platform for publishing spatial data & interactive mapping applications to
the web. Mapserver is used by FlightAware (http://flightaware.com).

* OpenMap (http://openmap.bbn.com/) is an open source programmer's toolkit
to render geospatial information.

Tom Dunn, RHCE
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[Sean]

What is a TureType Font?

On Jul 11, 11:42 am, <Thomas.D...@gtri.gatech.edu> wrote:
> I don't know of any "official" government site, but the following
> resources are available:
>
> * MapSymbs (http://www.mapsymbs.com/maphome.html) is a freeware set of
> standard NATO APP-6A military map marking symbols inside a TureType font
>
> * MapServer (http://mapserver.org/) is an open source (MIT license)
> platform for publishing spatial data & interactive mapping applications to
> the web.  Mapserver is used by FlightAware (http://flightaware.com).
>
> * OpenMap (http://openmap.bbn.com/) is an open source programmer's toolkit
> to render geospatial information.
>
> Tom Dunn, RHCE
> Georgia Tech Research Institute <http://www.gtri.gatech.edu/>
> Voice: (757) 514-1309

> thomas.d...@gtri.gatech.edu

[Jim Kinney]

Typo. TrueType fonts are standard issue fonts that are scalable. The standard was created by Microsoft and found instant popularity outside the Microsoft lockin so they tried to abandon TT fonts (with no success ).

[john scott]

anything new to report from anyone about 2525 as OSS project?

anything new to report?

[Gene McCulley]

We (StackFrame) have since open sourced our implementation (Ortelium) and we are using it in more applications.

See http://www.stackframe.com/software/Ortelium for information about Ortelium.

See http://www.stackframe.com/SymbolFactory/ for a demo.

See https://github.com/StackFrame/Ortelium/ for the source.

Feel free to contact me for more information.

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[John Scott III]

I also just found this:

http://milsym.codeplex.com/

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[John Scott III]

very cool btw!
thanks from all!

On Oct 31, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Gene McCulley wrote:

[Kit Plummer]

Definitely needs to get added to the list. Unfortunately, I can never remember where this list is - and worse never remember to book mark it.

First entry in the Mil-OSS wiki?

[Drew Thornton]

I just noticed that there was a wiki on the website. What are the plans for it? I would like to contribute, but I didn't want to go against any ideas the 'steerers had...

 

Drew

[Kit Plummer]

I believe all you need is an account, then you can start adding content.  

I think MIL-STD-2525* is deserving of its own page, which then could be linked to from a parent "OSS options" page under a iconography/symbology header.

There are existing collections of alternatives floating around, but it would also be good to get, at a mimimum, links to them available - and at best start a "master" list that is gardened centrally.

Kane, are we good to start adding content?  Wondering if would be good to create some basic template structure that could be populated.  Thoughts?

Kit

[Kane McLean]

+1

everything should be good to go. Just register for an account (login at top of site on the right) click on the 'dont have an account' link to create one. then go to the wiki page and click the 'submit an article link'

Kane

[xander]

Worldwind has added significant support for ms2525.  They have a zip file of most of the tactical symbols.

Start at: http://goworldwind.org/developers-guide/symbology/.  If all you want is the zip file, you want this: http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/milstd2525c/rev1/milstd2525-symbols.zip.

Xander

On Friday, July 8, 2011 5:39:52 PM UTC-4, Sean wrote:

[simo...@gmail.com]

Wow we use worldwind on our project

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Subject: [mil-oss] Re: MIL-STD 2525 or something else? and Where?

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[Kit Plummer]

This MIL-STD-2525 keeps coming around.  :)

What if…there was an "officially" supported SaaS on both the low and high sides that was capable of providing any 2525 icon in SVG/PNG based on an HTTP POST request (with encoded param) or a basic form like Ortelium:

http://www.stackframe.com/SymbolFactory/

I think it would also probably be useful to support a basic browse able directory, and even sets of icons.

What if…this SaaS also supported the ability to generate PDFs/ PPTs/KML of maps + icons based on HTTP POST requests (with encoded params of bbox + icon/location) or a basic form?

Is there not such a thing? 

Kit

[Dunn, Thomas H.]

I did a lot of work for the DoD T&E community.  Much of our work was on isolated network enclaves that we stood up for a single event.  Usually these did not have access to the broader NIPRNet/SIPRNet.  When we did work with SaaS Web Mapping Services (WMS) getting all the permissions and firewall rules just right was problematic (we got it working, but it took a lot more lead-time and coordination that it seems like it should have).

Tom Dunn

[Kit Plummer]

Ok, so there's a need to be able to run the SaaS, in a "deployed" capability.   What if the SaaS was lightweight enough that it could be run wherever including tactical platforms or forward locations with various constraints (security, connectivity, bandwidth), with little to no support?  Again, the thinking is that this is an "approved" (whatever that means would need to be resolved obviously) server/service.  

What if this SaaS could be run directly in the browser, not needing any back-end support?

[Gene McCulley]

We are deploying local instances of Ortelium for various projects. It is very easy to deploy. If you have a specific need, let us know and we will see if we can support it.

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On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Kit Plummer <kitpl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, so there's a need to be able to run the SaaS, in a "deployed" capability. What if the SaaS was lightweight enough that it could be run wherever including tactical platforms or forward locations with various constraints (security, connectivity, bandwidth), with little to no support? Again, the thinking is that this is an "approved" (whatever that means would need to be resolved obviously) server/service.
>
> What if this SaaS could be run directly in the browser, not needing any back-end support?
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:32 AM, "Dunn, Thomas H." <Thoma...@gtri.gatech.edu> wrote:
>
>> I did a lot of work for the DoD T&E community. Much of our work was on isolated network enclaves that we stood up for a single event. Usually these did not have access to the broader NIPRNet/SIPRNet. When we did work with SaaS Web Mapping Services (WMS) getting all the permissions and firewall rules just right was problematic (we got it working, but it took a lot more lead-time and coordination that it seems like it should have).
>>
>>
>> Tom Dunn
>>
>> From: Kit Plummer <kitpl...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "mil...@googlegroups.com" <mil...@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:25 PM
>> To: "mil...@googlegroups.com" <mil...@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [mil-oss] Re: MIL-STD 2525 or something else? and Where?
>>
>> This MIL-STD-2525 keeps coming around. :)
>>
>> What if…there was an "officially" supported SaaS on both the low and high sides that was capable of providing any 2525 icon in SVG/PNG based on an HTTP POST request (with encoded param) or a basic form like Ortelium:
>>
>> http://www.stackframe.com/SymbolFactory/
>>
>> I think it would also probably be useful to support a basic browse able directory, and even sets of icons.
>>
>> What if…this SaaS also supported the ability to generate PDFs/ PPTs/KML of maps + icons based on HTTP POST requests (with encoded params of bbox + icon/location) or a basic form?
>>
>> Is there not such a thing?
>>
>> Kit
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:48 AM, simo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Wow we use worldwind on our project
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

[ben]

NGA provides a web service to dynamically generate the 2525B icons, complete with text overlays and a bunch of other nifty features.  I have zip file of all the 2525B icons, but I seem to have forgotten where I obtained them.

On Friday, July 8, 2011 5:39:52 PM UTC-4, Sean wrote:

[Wally Atkins]

Are these NGA services available on NIPRnet? If yes, what is the link and do you need a DoD certificate (or AKO) to access the service?

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[Andy]

I am looking for a hard-copy removable stickers for use with hard-copy charts - basically, all I need is the basic symbols and I can add modifiers by hand.  I have some old ones, but we are almost out and I have not been able to find a source for replacements.  I plan to print my own if I can't find something to order.

[Chaim Krause]

Andy,

They sell books of them here at CGSC in the bookstore. I can go grab the info off of them if you would like.

Andy

November 19, 2012 11:45 AM

I am looking for a hard-copy removable stickers for use with hard-copy charts - basically, all I need is the basic symbols and I can add modifiers by hand.  I have some old ones, but we are almost out and I have not been able to find a source for replacements.  I plan to print my own if I can't find something to order. --

[Chaim Krause]

For the list archives:

http://tinja.ws/MilMapNotes

 

On 19.11.2012 11:45, Andy wrote:

I am looking for a hard-copy removable stickers for use with hard-copy charts - basically, all I need is the basic symbols and I can add modifiers by hand.  I have some old ones, but we are almost out and I have not been able to find a source for replacements.  I plan to print my own if I can't find something to order.

 

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[Bev Corwin]

FYI: https://wwhgd.org/ and http://socopgeosemantics2012.eventbrite.com/# ( 5th Annual Spatial Ontology Community (SOCoP) of Practice Workshop: Developing Geo-Spatial Ontologies &Ontology Patterns   Nov. 29-30, 2012 (9-5)  U. S. Geological Survey National Center 12201 }

[Bev Corwin]

FYI: http://www.wnyc.org/tags/tech/

[ben]

I think so, I've used them on SIPR but I believe they're on the big 3 networks.  I'll send you the link once I get back to a nipr machine but if you have access to Intelink, search for GVS and 2525, and you should find the document that describes all of the GVS services including the icon symbology one.

[ben]

Search for 'GEOINT Visualization Exposed Service Interfaces' on this page (https://www.intelink.gov/wiki/Gvs) and you'll have links for the exposed services document.