My findings this weekend with the newly accuried computers.

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MemphisArtGuy

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Sep 10, 2012, 10:26:13 AM9/10/12
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I spent some time with the new computers this weekend; we seem to have two models one ID’ed itself as a DC7200. These have the white and black ram slots. They are running DDR2 ram, FSB 800mhz 3.2ghz Intel hyper Thread CPU’s. The other model has black and blue ram slots, DDR ram, FSB of 400mhz, CPU is unknown as there is hardly any ram for these units.

Both systems seem to be pretty much similar, 4 SATA, 1 IDE/ATA, 1 floppy, 2 serial ports (Need breakouts for internal on board port), six USB rear & two front, Broad Com gigabit ethernet, realtek audio, onboard video. To get more running we will need more Hard Drives, more ram in DDR or DDR2, and more LCD’s (or someone fixing the ones in the shop).

Hirens 15.0 failed to boot these units.

Ultimate Boot CD (UBCD) 511 did boot these units, it’s about 50/50 on if a test will run. I’m sure it is the software not the units.

XP SP3 boots, does not like the serial on the units, can be ran 30 days unlicensed, missing drivers are Ethernet, audio, and Video. Unit usable with out the three mention drivers. HP has drivers for many OS'es on website just type in product DC7200.
We have 5 KVM’s up at the space each handling 4 units. Trent and I pull these out of our gear and have color coded our cables and leaving the plain cables the Groups. We would only need five LCD’s screens to do a test/manage twenty computers if all KVM’s test out.

I have one set up where Dan’s computer was, I’m using it to do some DOD’s. I talked with Joe and pulled 4 units out of the stack and beefed up the ram to 2GB. These are planned for the Lathe, Vinyl printer, Laser cutter, and a Kios. I have 8 units ready for burn in testing. Each one of these is DC7200 configured at 512mb.

My current goal is….

1. Get 4 units for space tested and ready for service.

2. Run ZCPU on all machines and collect every machines data to .txt and .html

3. Test all the KVM’s ( the usb’ ones all tested ok, the ps2 one’s have not been fully tested)

My next work night will be Tuesday if anyone wants to join me, or feel free to reply if there needs to be a course correction on my part.

-Dru

Greg Zapf

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Sep 10, 2012, 11:54:57 AM9/10/12
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I'm a little rusty at slipstreaming XP installs, but this sounds like a good opportunity for it (if you're planning on imaging more than a few with WinXP).  If I recall correctly, we can trial and error building an install disk image that has the drivers already there, the right type of XP to go with the license stickers, SP3, patches, and even some default settings, etc... (always show file extensions, which programs/components are installed by default, that sort of thing).

If no one else is a slipstreaming guru, I can come in sometime and dust off my memory of this, and can arrange with other interested parties who want to learn too.

And if you're already doing this... LOL, just ignore my ramblings.  :-)

--Greg

Dan Hess

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Sep 10, 2012, 12:01:45 PM9/10/12
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Check into nlite.  It helps a lot with slipstreaming.

Thanks,

Daniel H.
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Trent Bontly

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Sep 10, 2012, 12:02:35 PM9/10/12
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Nlite is great

Justin Rickert

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Sep 10, 2012, 12:03:43 PM9/10/12
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You could build a system, install the updates and drivers, then create a .gho of it and ghost it into the rest of the drives. I use to do this all the time. I also have a universal xp install disk that I have made also (works on intel processors only)

Danny Chamberlin

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Sep 10, 2012, 12:07:29 PM9/10/12
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Is there a particular reason why we want to install Windows on these systems and not a Linux distro?

Danny

Joe Ferguson

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Sep 10, 2012, 12:11:05 PM9/10/12
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For the Vinyl Cutter: I haven't found a linux solution to the workflow, however a Windows XP workflow has proven to work. Past that, I have no preference on OS unless the task requires it.

MemphisArtGuy

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Sep 10, 2012, 12:37:28 PM9/10/12
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Well guess it depends on the hardware we are attaching to them, I assumed the kiosk would be Ubuntu only. I posted my windows findings just to let every one know what I found out. I believe Ubuntu will be a smooth(er) install.
 
-Dru

Brandon Tice

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Sep 10, 2012, 1:28:12 PM9/10/12
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A few things to note here:

  • They are either D530, DC7100, or DC7600 models.  All three were mixed in the load, with a couple of HP xw4xxx pro workstations.  There is no DC7200.
  • For loading XP, I believe it has to be XP retail version.  If you try to load OEM or Volume License Key versions, the key won't work.
  • You can build one, then sysprep it and take a CloneZilla image of the drive.  Use a small drive on the original build so you can use GParted to expand the partition to fill a larger drive.  To my knowledge, it doesn't work the opposite way.
  • The D530s and DC7100s use DDR, not DDR2.  I have some spare modules that I can bring to the space for use in these units.
  • The D530s don't have SATA.  The DC7100s and DC7600s should.
I hope that helps.

-Brandon

MemphisArtGuy

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Sep 10, 2012, 1:43:36 PM9/10/12
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Your correct, I grabbed my thumb drives during lunch. it's an excert of the CPUZ data. One I was testing on was a 7600.
 
DMI
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
DMI BIOS  
 vendor   Hewlett-Packard
 version   786D1 v01.03
 date   05/18/2005
 ROM size  1024 KB
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 manufacturer  Hewlett-Packard
 product   HP Compaq dc7600 Convertible Minitower
 version   unknown
 serial   MXM61900G6
 UUID   {E3D4B28B-BA3B-11DA-BBDA-3566521E0016}
DMI Baseboard  
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 revision  unknown
 serial   MXM61900G6
DMI System Enclosure  
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DMI Processor  
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 clock speed  3200.0 MHz
 FSB speed  800.0 MHz
 multiplier  4.0x
DMI Processor  
 manufacturer  Intel
 model   unknown
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  SATA0 (internal)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  SATA1 (internal)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  SATA2 (internal)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  SATA3 (internal)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  SERIAL A (internal)
 designation  COM A (external)
 port type  Serial Port 16550A
 connector  DB-9 male
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  SERIAL B (internal)
 port type  Serial Port 16550A
 connector  DB-9 male
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  PARALLEL (external)
 port type  Parallel Port ECP/EPP
 connector  DB-25 female
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  USB 1 (external)
 port type  USB
 connector  Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  USB 2 (external)
 port type  USB
 connector  Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  USB 3 (external)
 port type  USB
 connector  Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  USB 4 (external)
 port type  USB
 connector  Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  USB 5 (external)
 port type  USB
 connector  Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  USB 6 (external)
 port type  USB
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DMI Port Connector  
 designation  FRNT_USB (internal)
 designation  USB 7 (external)
 port type  USB
 connector  Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  FRNT_USB (internal)
 designation  USB 8 (external)
 port type  USB
 connector  Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  KEYBOARD (external)
 port type  Keyboard Port
 connector  PS/2
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  MOUSE (external)
 port type  Mouse Port
 connector  PS/2
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  REAR MIC (external)
 port type  Audio Port
 connector  Mini DIN
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  REAR LINE IN (external)
 port type  Audio Port
 connector  Mini DIN
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  VIDEO (external)
 port type  Video Port
 connector  DB-15 female
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  REAR HEADPHONE/LINEOUT (external)
 port type  Audio Port
 connector  Mini DIN
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  RJ45 (external)
 port type  Network Port
 connector  RJ-45
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  CPU FAN (internal)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  CD AUDIO (CD) (internal)
 port type  Audio Port
 connector  On Board Sound Input From CD-ROM
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  AUX AUDIO (AUX) (internal)
 port type  Audio Port
 connector  On Board Sound Input From CD-ROM
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  PRIMARY IDE (internal)
 connector  On Board IDE
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  FLOPPY (internal)
 connector  On Board Floppy
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  FRNT AUD (internal)
 designation  FRONT HEADPHONE/LINEOUT & MIC (external)
 port type  Audio Port
 connector  Mini DIN
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  CHASSIS FAN (internal)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  SPEAKER (SPKR) (internal)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  PASSWORD CLEAR (PSWD) (internal)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  HOOD SENSE (HSENSE) (internal)
DMI Port Connector  
 designation  HOOD LOCK (HLCK) (internal)
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 designation  PCI1
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 width   32 bits
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DMI Extension Slot  
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 type   A5
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DMI Extension Slot  
 designation  PCI EXPRESS x16 SLOT/PCIEx16
 type   A5
 populated  no
DMI Physical Memory Array  
 location  Motherboard
 usage   System Memory
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DMI Physical Memory Array  
 location  Motherboard
 usage   Flash Memory
 correction  None
 max capacity  1 MBytes
 max# of devices  1
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 designation  XMM1
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 designation  XMM2
 format   DIMM
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DMI Memory Device  
 designation  XMM3
 format   DIMM
 type   unknown
DMI Memory Device  
 designation  XMM4
 format   DIMM
 type   unknown
DMI Memory Device  
 designation  SYSTEM ROM
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 type   FLASH
 total width  2 bits
 data width  2 bits
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Graphics
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of adapters  1
Graphic APIs
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Display Adapters
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Display adapter 0 
 PCI device  bus 0 (0x0), device 2 (0x2), function 0 (0x0)
 Vendor ID  0x8086 (0x103C)
 Model ID  0x2772 (0x3010)
 Performance Level 0

Kevin Nuckolls

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Sep 10, 2012, 3:38:57 PM9/10/12
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I'd like to point out as a casual observer that these units would double as an excellent Hadoop cluster if any of you are interested in mining massive datasets. 

You might also want to consider running Eucalyptus or Xen across these nodes so you can have a private cloud for spinning up virtual machines as needed. You could use Chef to define a base node for different use cases. 

Best Regards,
-Kevin

Danny Chamberlin

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Sep 10, 2012, 3:43:47 PM9/10/12
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ObSlashdotReference: Make a Beowulf Cluster out of them!

Danny

MemphisArtGuy

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Sep 10, 2012, 3:48:24 PM9/10/12
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Yeah they a pretty heavy duty computers. The question is how much can our power grind hold?
 
-Dru

Josh Burnwatt

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Sep 10, 2012, 5:05:46 PM9/10/12
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Do you guys need more hard drives for them? We initially did not include them because we didn't have an efficient way to sanitize them, but since then we've been able to get a few prepped to leave the facility.

Joe Ferguson

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Sep 10, 2012, 5:18:46 PM9/10/12
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We absolutely want hard drives :_D

MemphisArtGuy

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Sep 11, 2012, 5:44:52 PM9/11/12
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Yes and I can "Boot and Nuke" them if need be. I'll be up there tonight playing with them some more.
 
-Dru

MemphisArtGuy

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Sep 12, 2012, 5:31:06 PM9/12/12
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Last night notes.......
 
Boot and Nuke work's great on the 7600's
 
DOD'ed internal drive and usb drives at the same time  "Time saver" =D 
 
Figured out to place the ATA hard drives in the floppy bay works great, insert from the front and use the 2 screw holes furtherest away from power connector.
 
Test unit I'm using was in peices, looks like it has bad ram slots "video goes all funny" when ram placed in slots 3 or 4.
 
Any luck I'll sell my car this evening and I'll be up there after that.
 
-Dru

MemphisArtGuy

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Sep 17, 2012, 11:42:08 AM9/17/12
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Most of the units have been powered on. Lacking ram for about 7 units mix of D530/DC7100 (DDR).
 
We now have 6 computers with 40gb hard drives, ready for OS install. 4 DC7600, 1 x4100, 1 random compaq.
 
D530 are just like the DC7100 - D530 has two IDE connectors on board, the 7100 has only one. Also the video slots are diffrent.
 
The 4100 has the harddrive that will boot the 4100,7100,d530, and the 7600.

That is 16 7600's stored behind the couches.
 
 
that's all i can thing of at this point.
 

Chad Miller

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Sep 17, 2012, 12:48:14 PM9/17/12
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Are we turning them into a cluster or what?

Ben Eishen

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Sep 17, 2012, 1:01:48 PM9/17/12
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Have each of the computers been marked for specs by chance? It would be handy knowing that information by just looking at them. Also in case they get moved or re-organized, we aren't back to square NULL. Great work dru! Thanks for heading this project!

Thanks,
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Ben S. Eishen

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Danny Chamberlin

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Sep 17, 2012, 1:08:18 PM9/17/12
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I thought at least some of them were being used as front ends to our various (and future) CAM devices

Danny


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Chad Miller <cwmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

MemphisArtGuy

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Sep 18, 2012, 6:14:39 PM9/18/12
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MemphisArtGuy

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Sep 18, 2012, 6:21:34 PM9/18/12
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 Yes the 4 7600's are being farmed for our Devices and a Kios.
 
 
Were' suppost to get the windows image for the set. 
Any one have prefered OS's they like to see?
 
We have 2 more working already. I figure the 4100 is a primed for Ubuntu since it has a windows 2000 license. With group permission I like to donate it a firewire card since it has the external ports to support one.  
 
Also Ben's post above has the log I've been working on. Let me know if you see any specs missing? I did erase the 18 7600's and will have to boot them all back up.
 
-Dru
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