X-Touch (Full Size) Encoders Not Working

[Stephen Lopez]

Hi folks. I'm new to the group but excited to get started.

I just purchased a full size X-Touch and have begun playing around.

For some reason, even though MIDI2LR acknowledges their presence and allows me to assign them a function, the encoders on the X-Touch do not actually control functions in LR.

When I assign the faders and other buttons, they do work, but the encoders do not seem to be working at all. They do not adjust their assigned functions nor do they display any lights/indicators as to their positioning.

Has anyone else with a full size X-Touch experienced something similar?

Thank you!

[Glauco Castro]

I'm really interested in knowing if it's 100% compatible, because I was about to buy one of this.

Did you manage to map all the keys/slides/knobs? Were you able to map the big rotary knob?

Thanks.

[Stephen Lopez]

I haven't yet gotten that far. All of the buttons and the rotary knob are recognized by MIDI2LR, but I haven't tried assigning them yet.

I became frustrated when I couldn't get the encoders to work and stopped my testing there.

It's frustrating because I know the encoders on the Compact and Mini work so I'm not entirely sure why they wouldn't work on the full size unit.

[Stephen Lopez]

Here is a 2 minute video demonstrating what I think might be part of the issue.

While spinning the encoders, MIDI2LR only seems to be detecting two values: 1 and 65, with no range in between. That's in contrast to the fader strips, which you'll see register the full range when I move them between minimum and maximum levels.

https://youtu.be/F7BRpmx-f88

[Glauco Castro]

I have no idea what this means, but I've read this about the full version. 

• Supports HUI* and Mackie Control* protocols for seamless integration with every compatible music production software

I was looking for an xtouch editor for the full version and they said it's not available because of the protocols it uses. Maybe those protocols are not compatible with midi2lr. Just wondering...... 

Em quinta-feira, 11 de janeiro de 2018 02:08:35 UTC-2, Stephen Lopez escreveu:

[Glauco Castro]

Well, I don't understand anything about this MIDI protocol or how to program this CC/MCU/HUI thing. But looking at your video, we can see that the first faders send note and pitch commands to MIDI2LR, while the last encoders send CC commands. Maybe there is something to do with it.

I was reading this forum (https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/900680-namm-2014-behringer-x-touch-universal-control-surface-23.html) and I read something about what types of commands it sends. For example

Since the X-Touch is a Mackie MCU/hui device it is not reprogrammable. It only adheres to the Mackie Control protocols and is fully compatible to mcu and hui.

All buttons send a note-on/off and the faders, encoders and jog sends CC's. Most daws will let you map/assign controls to a specific function. This can be used to control your saw, if it supports this kind of mapping.

also read this

The X-Touch is a 100% macike mcu/hui controller with the addition of usb-hub and ethernet. Nothing less, nothing more.
Future firmware will extend this functionality to control the X32/m32 and x-air. Other operation modes like generic CC programming may or may not become available, but this has never been advertised.

And this

Are you sure you have the XTouch in MC mode?? 
1. Hold channel 1 select button while powering on the XTouch, 
2. then use channel 1 encoder knob to select MC. 
3. Channel 2 encoder knob to select USB (or whatever) 
4. then save the changes by hitting the Channel 1 select button again...

Are you running the latest firmware? 

I've read somewhere that MIDI2LR receives CC commands. I might be wrong.

Look, I really don't undertand much about these protocols, but it might be worth a try, right?

Again, I'm very interested in knowing if it'll work, because I just had my Xtouch Compact order put on hold because it's out of stock, and as I have until next thirsday to buy it, I really need to know which one I'll buy.

Thanks.

Em quinta-feira, 11 de janeiro de 2018 02:08:35 UTC-2, Stephen Lopez escreveu:

[Glauco Castro]

Also, take a look at this thread. 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/midi2lr/glauco|sort:date/midi2lr/SCDUgSm0adk/UOxuVoKMAgAJ

It might give you a clue.

Em quinta-feira, 11 de janeiro de 2018 02:08:35 UTC-2, Stephen Lopez escreveu:

[Stephen Lopez]

I'm running the latest firmware (1.15).

I've tried all of the different modes available (MC/HUI/Xctl/XctlMC/XctlHUI) but the encoders do not work correctly in any of the modes.

Just to be clear: the faders DO WORK and they correctly pass adjustments through to LR

The faders appear to be sending PITCHBEND commands, so I don't think MIDI2LR is requiring CC commands.

The faders are also touch-sensitive, which is why you also see a NOTEON command when I touch them.

I'll add that I know the rotary encoders are fully functional - because they work 100% correctly when I use the board to edit music with Logic Pro X.