Please explain the pickup mode

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Mark Simons

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Jul 7, 2016, 1:41:17 AM7/7/16
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I'm using the behringer X-Touch mini (8 knobs, 16 buttons) and really don't get what the pickup-mode is good for or how it's options influence the way my faders and buttons work.
Any Midi2LR-Reviews i read before recommended to disable the pickup-mode but didn't explain that.

Whether i check or uncheck the checkbox my fader values were updated when switching pictures, but sometimes they won't.
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SkyDupont

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Jul 7, 2016, 11:02:34 AM7/7/16
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@Mark Simons

Where do you get this amazing colorful looking knobs from ???

noalorama

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Jul 7, 2016, 1:12:58 PM7/7/16
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I think pickup mode is intended for non motorized faders and not endless knobs. X-Touch has endless encoders so pickup mode is not needed. About updating the values it happened to me I think like three times before, but luckily not anymore. Also some people were reporting that midi2lr has problems with Layer A,B switch buttons sometimes. I even use two X-Touches for convenience so I don't need the Layer buttons :)  That's all I know.

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Rory Jaffe

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Jul 7, 2016, 9:38:05 PM7/7/16
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The wiki has a discussion about the problem with layers and updating the controller: https://github.com/rsjaffe/MIDI2LR/wiki/MIDI-Controller-Setup#problems-with-controllers-that-have-layers

Pickup mode is also discussed in the wiki: https://github.com/rsjaffe/MIDI2LR/wiki/Application-Settings-Dialog . It is useful whenever your controller gets out of sync with Lightroom, which can happen with layer changes or with non-motorized faders. 

Mark Simons

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Jul 8, 2016, 1:19:17 AM7/8/16
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These are DJ Techtools Chroma Caps and a grey fader button (https://store.djtechtools.com/products/chroma-caps-knobs-and-faders)

I really like the look and feel, they are made of rubber and fit really good on the poti shaft. I use red, neon orange, yellow, green, blue (for aquamarine), blue (again), purple and magenta. The fader is used for profile switching and i bought a grey fader button. The caps are around 3 Euros per piece but i think they are worth it's price.
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Ian Essendon

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Jul 13, 2016, 4:27:36 PM7/13/16
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Following the post above I decided to risk ~£20 and bought some Caps in the UK. They have just arrived for my BCF200.

They are VERY nice! :)

Rory - you may want to give this hardware upgrade a higher profile ...

Phil M

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May 4, 2017, 2:26:40 AM5/4/17
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I have the X-Touch Compact, and pickup mode is off, but my encoders never seem to update when switching between photos.

I read through the links in your answer, but they don't seem to apply to my issue, as I change layers very rarely, so that doesn't seem to be the culprit (though your potential solution to have a "change layer" button would be great).

Also, the motorized faders update properly all the time when navigating through photos, even though the encoders don't, so I really don't know what's causing this issue.

I've also tried changing the encoder LED ring from single to pan to trim, but that hasn't made a difference as far as updating the encoders for each photo is concerned.

Any help would be appreciated,

Phil.

Rory Jaffe

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May 6, 2017, 9:30:40 PM5/6/17
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Try assigning a button to the Manual Update command: see the bottom of https://github.com/rsjaffe/MIDI2LR/wiki/Commands. See if that helps.

Phil M

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May 7, 2017, 4:31:38 AM5/7/17
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I just tried Manual Update, but it didn't solve the problem.

At this point, the encoder rings update when switching between layers on the X-Touch, but not when switching between photos (on either layer). And while they do update when switching between layers, they stay at whatever state they were when previously in on that layer. So it's the same problem on either layer, but with different "stuck" encoder rings.

Also strange is that I have the encoder button functions all set as a reset for each particular encoder. And while the reset works in Lightroom, the encoder ring doesn't update to the 0 position, accordingly. It just stays where it is.

I then changed most of the encoders to the "single" type instead of the "pan" type. I'm not sure what the differences are, but the encoder behaviour has definitely changed. Now the ring stays the same between photos, but if the encoder is turned, the setting is applied immediately. For example, encoder 1 is set to Sharpening Amount. On the first photo the sharpening is at 50, and on the second photo the sharpening is at 100. If the ring shows 50 from the first photo, but I'm editing the second photo, and I turn the ring, it instantly moves the sharpening from 100 to 50, and then starts increasing the sharpening as the encoder keeps turning. Kind of like a reverse of the Pickup mode. Very strange.

The encoders also always default to 0 (all the way left), which is very confusing when using a setting like Dehaze which should default to the centre. Even more confusing is that in single mode, when an encoder is at 0, there is no light on the ring at all.

I hope that gives you some more info to work with. I'll keep trying different things out, but it's pretty weird.

Thanks again,

Phil.
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