Cannot get faders and encoders to control LR [iCon QCon Pro DAW Controller]

[Walker Boh]

I tried setting up a QCon Pro controller for several hours, with quite limited success :-(

https://www.icondigitalusa.com/daw-controllers/

Did anyone ever try connecting this controller to LR?

Software:

• MIDI2LR 1.1.1.0 as of June, 12th 2016
  
• Lightroom 6.0
• Windows 7 64bit

The Controller does not need any drivers, it is working perfectly in Cubase.

The MIDI2LR application is receiving MIDI Commands and I can assign all push-buttons, but neither the motorized faders nor the rotary encoders do work. If I assign a fader/encoder to „Exposure“ then the fader can set only TWO values for the exposure. When opening the next photo, the fader positions are NOT updated either :-(

It does not make any difference, if I enable or disable „pickup mode“.

This is what the MIDI data looks like:

Rotary encoder:

 ===> MIDI-OX Version: 7.0.2.372

 TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT               

 00010B08   1   5     B0    10    41    1  ---  Control Change        

 00010B56   1   5     B0    10    41    1  ---  Control Change        

 00010EE1   1   5     B0    10    01    1  ---  Control Change        

 00010F3F   1   5     B0    10    01    1  ---  Control Change

It is sending 41 if turned clockwise and 01 ccw. The values may increase if the encoder is moved faster, e.g. 02, 04, 07 or 43, 48 etc.

MIDI2LR is displaying 1 | CC: 16 for events of this encoder.

Motorized fader:

 ===> MIDI-OX Version: 7.0.2.372

 TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT               

 000122E3   1   5     90    68    7F    1  G# 7 Note On               

 00012331   1   5     E0    00    73    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 00012351   1   5     E0    40    72    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 00012370   1   5     E0    00    72    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 00012390   1   5     E0    40    71    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 000123EE   1   5     E0    00    71    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 0001245B   1   5     E0    40    70    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 0001248A   1   5     E0    00    70    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 000124A9   1   5     E0    40    6F    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 000124C9   1   5     E0    00    6F    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 000124D8   1   5     E0    40    6E    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 000124F8   1   5     E0    00    6E    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 00012526   1   5     E0    40    6D    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 000125A3   1   5     E0    00    6D    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 000125D2   1   5     E0    40    6C    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 00012601   1   5     E0    00    6C    1  ---  Pitch Bend            

 0001267E   1   5     90    68    00    1  G# 7 Note Off              

     

Note On/Off are sent when touching or releasing the touch sensitive fader, Pitch Bend when actually moving it.

MIDI2LR is displaying 1 | Note: 104 for the fader.

Any ideas on how I could get these perfectly fine signals into LR? :-)

Kind regards,

   Markus

[rsjaffe]

The fader should be set up to send CC messages (Control change) with a minimum of 0 and a maximum of 7F (127). MIDI2LR doesn't read pitch bend messages, and note on/off can be used for pushbutton type actions but not variable controls.

I'm wondering what mode your rotary encoder is in. It should be in "absolute" mode with a minimum of 0 and a maximum of 7F.

[Walker Boh]

Great, that's a good start. I actually can re-define any control using the Qcon Pro iMap utility, if I set the console to „MIDI Learn mode“.

So I set the faders to CC and they are working now! Unfortunately they still do not update their position when opening the next photo :-(

I can select hundreds of different messages for the CC message type, e.g. Bank MSB, Modulation, Data Entry MSB, Volume GM and so on. All seem to send values between 0 and 7F. Any preferences here?

For the rotary encoder I now set the message type to „Balance GM“ which does send the desired values. But the controller values are not updated, too - I would see the LEDs around the encoders lighten up otherwise.

Kind regards,

    Markus

P.S. still did not find a way to permanently store the mappings IN the console. I have to send the mappings using the very crappy iMap tool again, after powering the console down…

[Walker Boh]

I did some more research:

Midi-OX's panic reset function does reset my controller's faders to 0 position, but it does send a pitch bend reset, too!

So as far as it seems I can redefine what the faders are sending, but not what they are „listening“ to?

The pitch bend values the QCon Pro is sending in „Cubase“ mode are actually 14bit values with a range from -8192 to 8191. I can use Midi-OX to re-map the Pitch bend events to CC events and the other way around. That would be a more comfortable solution than using the iMap tool. But when Midi-OX is up and running, MIDI2LR does not find any controllers and crashes when I hit „rescan MIDI devices“.

[G. Labus]

Am Samstag, 25. Juni 2016 13:06:44 UTC+2 schrieb Walker Boh:

I tried setting up a QCon Pro controller for several hours, with quite limited success :-(

https://www.icondigitalusa.com/daw-controllers/

Did anyone ever try connecting this controller to LR?

Software:

• MIDI2LR 1.1.1.0 as of June, 12th 2016
  
• Lightroom 6.0
• Windows 7 64bit

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I have the same problem. I bought recently a Korg nanoKontrol2 and thought it a great idea to do my editing in Lightroom with it.

Software:

 MIDI2LR 1.3.0.1 and 1.4.0.0 (today)

Lightroom CC 2015.6.1

Windows 10 64 bit

All knobs and faders seem so send only binary values so that when for example  a knob assigned to exposure the values shown in CC:16 are [127] in the left position (image bright),[65], (middle position) and [63] in the right position. The reaction in Lightroom is slow, sometimes no reaction at all.

I have no problems with assigning keys to any function. 

Is there any hope to solve this problem as I don't seem to be alone with this problem. I also tried midi2lr on my notebook but with the same result.

Kind regards

Gernot

[Rory Jaffe]

You need to reprogram the controller so it sends values between 0 and 127, as that is what the plugin looks for.

[Piero Campos]

how to reprogram the controller?

[Rory Jaffe]

See the list of compatible controllers. It looks like you have to do something special to load new settings. Maybe the person who entered the information on the spreadsheet (it was an anonymous user) can tell you how to fix it.