hi hat midi note

[Blade5177]

When I close my hi-hat connected to a Roland TD-12, it puts out two
notes, the #44 and #42. It adds an extra note on Rock Band when
switching between yellow (close hi-hat) and blue (open hi-hat). I
don't know how to make my module only send out #44 which I do not have
mapped. Any suggestions?

[Mutnat]

I remember noticing that too, since I also don't have 44 mapped. I
think what it was doing for me (TD-12 also, with VH-11 hi-hat), was
outputting a closed note (can't recall if it was rim or bow) when I
closed the hats with the pedal. It wasn't putting out any extra notes
when I opened the hats with the pedal. So what I started doing, I
believe, when switching from blue hi-hat notes (mapped as open bow/rim
for me) to yellow (mapped as closed bow/rim for me) was to use the
closing of the hats as the first yellow notes after the blue without
actually hitting the pad at all. So, it's not a perfect solution but
rather a work-around.

Maybe there's a setting to tweak in the module to prevent the problem
instead of working around it. If I get some time later this week or
weekend I will see if I can come up with a proper solution, unless you
or someone else here beats me to it.

[Brian Wechsler]

Thank you. I will try to locate a setting in the module.

[pheonix]

Yeh i had this problem too
just map it how you want it (but with the extra hi hat pedal note)
then plug it into your computer, open up the GUI program and import
your map and delete the pedal's note
then export the map back into your midi rocker
Done

[Scott Pinkham]

I'm trying to figure out if there is something I can do in the
firmware to help make this easier.

I could make it so when in program mode, the firmware ignores the
second note in a sequence if it comes too quickly after the first (say
within a half second or so). I could also make it so tapping the BACK
button would erase the last note programmed. Anyone have any thoughts
on this?

Using the GUI you can easily make the necessary changes to the
mapping, but I know some people (like those with Macs) can't use the
GUI at present. (I hope to port the GUI to the Mac sometime).

Thanks,
Scott P (Byte Arts)


On Apr 2, 12:54 am, pheonix <demonology_and_heartache_...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

[Hugo Gayosso]

Hello Scott,

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Scott Pinkham <sco...@bytearts.com> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to figure out if there is something I can do in the
> firmware to help make this easier.
>
> I could make it so when in program mode, the firmware ignores the
> second note in a sequence if it comes too quickly after the first (say
> within a half second or so). I could also make it so tapping the BACK
> button would erase the last note programmed. Anyone have any thoughts
> on this?

I like the "BACK" idea.

> Using the GUI you can easily make the necessary changes to the
> mapping, but I know some people (like those with Macs) can't use the
> GUI at present. (I hope to port the GUI to the Mac sometime).

How good is the possibility to get it ported to Linux?, even at least
a basic version, like configuration in a text file and the flasher
program.

--
Hugo

[Blade5177]

The problem is that the extra note is the same as the closed hi-hat
edge note, so if i delete it, that won't work either...

On Apr 2, 2:54 am, pheonix <demonology_and_heartache_...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

[Brian Wechsler]

Scott,

I used the GUI to program the midi rocker and still I can't get rid of
the second note because it is the same as one of the notes I need to
keep. I don't understand why my hi-hat sends out two notes for the
pedal. I deleted the main note #44, but it still produces a secondary
note. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Brian

[Scott Pinkham]

Is there anything about the second note could be used to distinguish
it from the one you want to keep? Maybe the velocity is a different
value? I might be able to come up with a way to filter it out if so.

-Scott P (Byte Arts)

[Brian Wechsler]

I tried changing every parameter that I could think of, but if I do, I
will lose the note that I want to keep.

[Steve.B]

The best solution I have found is to lightly close the high hat when
switching.
If you close without any force the TD-12 will not trigger - as long as
you stay below the threshold. It's also possible to adjust the
settings of the TD to make it more difficult to do a foot splash - but
I try to leave my TD settings alone for regular playing.

[Brian Wechsler]

Hey Scott,

The foot splash note #44 has a velocity on/off of about 50-75
The extra note (unwanted) has a velocity on/off of about 16-35. I
don't know if this helps. Let me know. Thanks.

Brian

On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Scott Pinkham wrote:

>

[RvJunke]

To all...I gave up a long time ago with this issue....I could NEVER
get it to work. The firmware and software are awesome, it is a Roland
issue on how it is triggered.

Scott unless you can design for the TD-20 and 12, I could not figure a
solution, because adjusting inside the Roland to dampen the
sensitivity, effected the sound and playability of the unit....

Thanks,

Fred

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[Scott Pinkham]

Let's not give up yet! There must be some way to make this work. How
about adding a "note filter" to the firmware? You could specify a note
number and a velocity range (min and max). Any note which matches a
note (and velocity) in this filter would be ignored. Would that solve
the problem?

I can also put in features for specific drumsets if needed. There's a
lot of processing power in the MIDI Rocker that isn't being utilized
yet.

-Scott (Byte Arts)