TD-12, yellow and blue at the same time problem fixed.

[Hugo]

Hello,

I just got a TD-12 and hooked it to my original MIDI Rocker that was
used successfully with my TD-6v.

While re-assigning the pads, I did the toms first, then I did the
cymbals.

I did the yellow cymbal and then I did the blue cymbal.

I wanted to have the closed HH be yellow and the open be blue.

I noticed that after programming the blue cymbal, when I moved the
switch to "Play" the yellow led would light up.

Then upon hitting the ride or the open hi-hat it would trigger both
colors, yellow and blue.

Something like it was described previously here:
https://groups.google.com/group/midi-rocker/browse_thread/thread/6a6782f450802f2/6ce3c8819ae1e74f?lnk=gst&q=td-12#6ce3c8819ae1e74f

But I am not using a VH-12, nor I am on Xbox, I am on PS3 and a CY-5.

I thought it was XTALK or something else, but after failing to find
any parameter that would fix this, I tried the simple approach of
setting the blue cymbal first then the yellow and that solved the
issue.


Other than that moving from a TD-6v to a TD-12 with the MIDI Rocker
has been pain free.

--
Hugo

[Scott P (Byte Arts)]

Strange -- the order in which notes are programmed shouldn't affect
the mapping. It seems like maybe the old note assignment didn't get
erased properly -- I'll double-check the firmware and make sure there
isn't a scenario that would cause this.

The current firmware does allow the same note to be mapped to more
than one output (color), so that's why one note can trigger multiple
colors. Upon reflection, I can't see a reason for allowing this so I
think I'll update the firmware so if you reprogram a note which is
already assigned to another color it will erase the old assignment.
This should prevent accidentally assigning one note to multiple
colors. I'm not saying this is what Hugo did, but it got me thinking
about ways to prevent any sort of confusion.

The GUI software will highlight any duplicate notes in red so you can
see at a glance if a note is assigned twice.

-Scott P (Byte Arts)

On Mar 7, 11:39 am, Hugo <hdrump...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just got a TD-12 and hooked it to my original MIDI Rocker that was
> used successfully with my TD-6v.
>
> While re-assigning the pads, I did the toms first, then I did the
> cymbals.
>
> I did the yellow cymbal and then I did the blue cymbal.
>
> I wanted to have the closed HH be yellow and the open be blue.
>
> I noticed that after programming the blue cymbal, when I moved the
> switch to "Play" the yellow led would light up.
>
> Then upon hitting the ride or the open hi-hat it would trigger both
> colors, yellow and blue.
>

> Something like it was described previously here:https://groups.google.com/group/midi-rocker/browse_thread/thread/6a67...

[Hugo D]

Hello Scott,

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Scott P (Byte Arts)
<sco...@bytearts.com> wrote:
> Strange -- the order in which notes are programmed shouldn't affect
> the mapping. It seems like maybe the old note assignment didn't get
> erased properly -- I'll double-check the firmware and make sure there
> isn't a scenario that would cause this.

I will try to duplicate this just to be sure I am giving a good feedback.

The only thing I remember I did was, once I deleted they cymbal notes
for yellow. That is I put it in programming mode and hit the back
button. Then I proceeded to hit the cymbals that normally hit yellow
and the led didn't light up, so I assumed the whole yellow was empty.

Also, I didn't connect it to the computer to check, it was all done by
looking at the LEDs.

Ah, and I think I am still running the firmware you prepared for me
when trying to debug the "corrupted maps" issue.

> The current firmware does allow the same note to be mapped to more
> than one output (color), so that's why one note can trigger multiple
> colors. Upon reflection, I can't see a reason for allowing this

Guitar Hero triggers the "power" or whatever it is called when both
cymbals are hit at the same, time.

Maybe that's the reason you set this up, so one person may be able to
hit just one cymbal and activate the "power" instead of hitting two
cymbals?

> The GUI software will highlight any duplicate notes in red so you can
> see at a glance if a note is assigned twice.

I will take a look on the GUI and report back.

--
Hugo

[Hugo D]

Hello Scott,

Last night I repeated the process, now with the MIDI Rocker GUI
running on the computer.

I deleted all the notes from Yellow and Blue cymbals (using the MIDI Rocker)

Verified that no pad triggered them, and also by loading the map on the GUI.

Then assigned the yellow pads first then the blue ones.

This time I had no problem.

What is different is that now when I added the yellow pads and push
the switch to the "play" position I didn't see the blue LED turn on,
which is something that I saw that time when I made the report. That
was the very first thing that called my attention, and it was
repeatable (during that session). This time it didn't happen.

This looks as if when I moved the switch to "play" I caused some
vibration that caused one of the blue (pads, I guess because the
cymbals were empty) to trigger a blue signal, but when I repeated the
process I was careful not to do it.

Anyway, the issue didn't re-appear.

--
Hugo